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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Kippershy Mon May 13, 2013 1:10 am
Lucid got his tablet pen, here's his present in return - which you've no doubt seen, Somber.
Anyway, posting it for the rest of the people because no-one else would ever come across this, besides maybe one or two people.
![[GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion - Page 24 13683910](https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/17/50/42/23/13683910.png)
Anyway, posting it for the rest of the people because no-one else would ever come across this, besides maybe one or two people.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Admiral Stoic Rum Mon May 13, 2013 1:42 am
Kippershy wrote:Lucid got his tablet pen, here's his present in return - which you've no doubt seen, Somber.
Anyway, posting it for the rest of the people because no-one else would ever come across this, besides maybe one or two people.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Icy Shake Mon May 13, 2013 3:22 am
And I continue my rereading (now with actual reading, instead of listening!) with chapter eleventen.
- Chapter Ten Editing:
- In less than half a minute I’d gone from feeling good… battered and slightly traumatized but good… to watching a dozen zebras gunned down right before my eyes by one of their own kind.
The part between the ellipses possibly needs a comma before "but," and the demarcation is probably better done with commas or dashes than ellipses. I suggest:
In less than half a minute I’d gone from feeling good – battered and slightly traumatized, but good – to watching a dozen zebras gunned down right before my eyes by one of their own kind.
I hate that this is even possible, that there is not some universal failsafe that doesn’t kick in and say ‘time out, too fucked up.’
"that kicks in and says"
“We can’t let him get away with it,” P21 said in his angry, low, pissed at the world voice.
Hypehenation for pissed at the world? Might go either way.
"lightly. I got"
Only one space after period.
I’d never hear Glory’s voice so sharp, so tense,
"heard"?
“Don’t you think the Enclave has protection against that sort of thing? If anything… pegasus, hot air balloon, flying machine, whatever… goes too high there are defense systems that will blast it to pieces. Thunderhead has more lightning rods than any place in the skies. We designed the ightning rod system! So I fly up there and I may as well shoot myself now.”
Here's that continuity point someone mentioned.
"says the dealer. Not too"
Only one space.
"thirteen zebra get taken."
Is the plural he uses "zebra" or "zebras," or is it context-dependant? Elsewhere in this chapter and others, in both narration and speech, there are multiple cases each where "zebra" and "zebras" is the plural form.
“I feel like I have a great big bulls-eye on my back.”
"Bullseye" isn't hyphenated.
‘Angel of Death: 8 foals. Hoofington Guard: 0 killers,’ read the headline.
This seems like an interesting case: if you're keeping it as an exact quotation as the object, should the punctuation following "killers" be a period?
You have a slight post operative infection.
"postoperative"I was given the opportunity to observe surgeries that I’d normally have to wait years to watch.
Probably should be
I was given the opportunity to observe surgeries that I’d normally have had to wait years to watch.
but it is dialogue, so . . . I don't know.
Finally the Volunteer Corps were established.
“How are the Volunteer Corps different?”
Are there multiple corps, or is there just one? It seems like most of the time, it's ambiguous (appropriately so, based on the sentences involved), the majority of the remainder, it's plural, and occasionally (often in speech), it's singular.
Pegasi I knew for years accused us of being dashites and turning our backs on the Enclave.”
In FoE, "Dashite" is uniformly capitalized both as an adjective and as a noun; it's mixed seemingly arbitrarily in PH, differing between chapters.
They’re injured, and it was touch and go a bit with Majina,
"Touch-and-go" generally seems to be hyphenated, for this usage.
Facing backwards and upside down, one of the eagle creatures flew across my vision and it felt almost like I entered the stillness of S.A.T.S.
I think this should probably be "had entered the . . ."
Also, should this be "eagle-creatures?" I'm not 100% sure how that'd go.
We were flying over no pony’s land and there was a zebra army pushing their way into the pony lines.
"pushing its way"
“Thanks!” he shouted as the gun started to fire it’s raking line of hot metal again.
"its"
She looked completely out of place with most of these ponies, being perhaps half the age of some and with thick glasses held together with duct tape.
Substituting "wearing" for "with" might make a structure that holds together slightly more strongly (verb matching verb, instead of one verb and one preposition).
"Shattered Hoof Ridge. Right now"
Four(!) spaces (HTML corrected here).
she said, with a snicker and a nod to the minigun wielding stallion,
"minigun-wielding"
Instead, all of us, including the maniac, looked over to the left edge of the fortification, where a big red buck stood in a battle saddle mounting an automatic rifle and a belt-fed shotgun.
Regarding "all of us," should it be written like that? Until then, in that memory orb, Blackjack had been much more detached, differentiating between herself and her host. But she melds in a little more as the memory continues.
He never swore or shouted at the enemy fighting their way up.
Object/posessive agreement: "enemy" is singular (or an adjective without a noun to modify), while "their" is plural. Consider, perhaps, "enemy fighting its way"; "enemies fighting their way"; or "enemy warriors [solders, etc.] fighting their way."
fortifications. I was amazed to see Twist, the smallest, leap on them in furious hoof to hoof combat rather than let them attack her comrades.
Only one space after "fortifications," and consider hyphenating "hoof to hoof."
BLAM BLAM BLAM…each death came with a plea for forgiveness in a hopeless whisper.
There's no space after the ellipsis, like you normally have for this type.
grin. “Well let’s go ah
Only one space.
“I tell you, I read in Stud magazines that Dash is all about the fillies.
Just to clarify, it looks like your style both here and elsewhere is to not underline or hyphenate book or periodical titles, but to put article titles in single-quotes?
Fire and armored griffins broke the pegasi lines into snapping, screaming combat.
"pegasus"
The next two did the same. And the next. And the next.
Could have one more "And the next," or "And the last [pair, two, or {}]" to reach the full squadron of nine and, maybe, better support the statement about the nine acting as one.
into the air. Okay, I really
Only one space.
My eyes popped open with a gasp of air, followed by a groan as my body reminded me that now was no time for strenuous activity.
The gasp of air and groan aren't really related to the eyes, which are the sentence's subject. Just a thought.
A more accurate way to describe the situation would be ‘moving one’s limbs and groaning in pain.’
I think this may be another case where your style would normally have the ending quotation mark inside the period. Also, "my limbs" might both match the earlier parts of the paragraph better and be more in keeping with Blackjack's narrative voice, but this is a weird case because it seems she's trying to sound smart/clever to the reader, here.
It’d been bent in a U around the impact.
The "U" should probably be in single-quotes: 'U'.
A raspy laugh rose up the stairs as the door to the boss’ office was slowly pushed open.
"boss's"
And as much as I wanted to help Tumbleweed, I had an even more horrifying thought; had she already come across Glory?
Candidate for colon, but probably fine as-is.
[idle observation]I yanked the drawers open one after the next as I looked for something lethal.
I never realized it until now, but I don't think I've ever seen the construction "one after the next" outside of Somber's writing.[/idle observation]
Unlike other raiders, she wasn’t half starved and raw.
"half-starved"
“It hurts… it hurts… my head hurts… I’m so hungry... so angry… please ...” she begged as she stared at me with her remaining pin prick pupil.
"please...", "pinprick"
“Tumbleweed.” I panted, my breath hissing as I nearly hyperventilated.
Only one space.
Looking at Tumbleweed I entered S.A.T.S. and to my surprise and a little bit of concern I queued up two attacks: ‘Telekinetic Bullet.’
Should the quotation mark be inside the period, since the period probably isn't part of the attack? Also, surprise and concern might relate more to discovering (or whatever) that she could queue up the attacks, and it seems like some minor punctuation might be missing.
Anyway, if you feel like those concerns are valid, a possible change might be something along the lines of: Looking at Tumbleweed I entered S.A.T.S., and to my surprise – and a little bit of concern – I was able to queue up two attacks: ‘Telekinetic Bullet’.
Perhaps the stars overhead were aligned just so beyond the clouds.
A minor thing, but do you think "just so" might benefit from being italisized? It seems like it could use further emphasis, but that might just be me.
Fortunately, I’d saved her life, handed her one of the most productive gem mines in the Hoof, and stopped her friend from becoming a equicidal maniac (
"an equicidal"
I said as my legs shook. She floated a tablet to my mouth and I chewed the chalky tablet before swallowing.
Only one space.
Now it only felt like I had rebar stuck there instead of one of Deus’ guns.
"Deus's"
I can do this. It’s just walking to the mine carts.
Only one space.
Fucking what? Ohh!
This was done intentionally to communicate drawing out the exclamation, right?
I felt a further chill wash over me, despite the lingering fever. “Are… you… fucking…insane?”
Ellipsis after "fucking" needs to be followed by a space.
“I’m sorry, is there something to think about here? This buck is responsible for the death of possibly hundreds of ponies. He’s been in charge of Brimstone for years!” P-21 said in a low voice, “He’s hurt everypony here. Now they get justice!”
It looks like ". . . for years!" may be the end of one sentence, with "P-21 said in . . ." starting a new one. If that's the case, there should be another space before "P-21"; otherwise, it's fine.
I wondered if, when I finished, I’d be next. “I’ve learned of a pony from that time who realized what everypony else didn’t. The war had to end, and if we were ever going to win it we would have to do better. Be better. Not better killers. Not more ruthless. We would have to be… kind.”
“I’m not an executioner. I’m Security
There shouldn't be a close-quotation mark at the end of the former paragraph, since the next begins with the continuation.
If he’d threatened another I wouldn’t stop fighting him ‘til he gave up.
I personally prefer " 'til" to "till," but you use the latter of the synonyms almost exclusively.
I hated ponies, “sane” ponies, killing other ponies.
Would your style normally have this as 'sane'?
“’How terrible,’ he cried out.
Consider, perhaps, a thin space between the double- and single-quotation marks for legibility. Also, the first single-quotation mark is a closing, not an opening, mark.
“But his wife was a very clever wife, and the next day when he went out he found the mare who had needed his nail, and she thanked him.
I'm not sure why "but his wife was a very clever wife" is there: she has yet to do or say anything, and still hasn't by the end of the containing paragraph. Consider moving and combining with:
But his wife just nodded. ‘Often it is the good we do not realize we do that matters more than the good we intend, husband.’” (also, consider a thin space between quotation marks)?
to get:
But his wife was a very clever wife, and just nodded. ‘Often it is the good we do not realize we do that matters more than the good we intend, husband.’” (also, consider a thin space between quotation marks)?
Of course, it's a Sekashi story, so perhaps a little disjointedness isn't entirely a bug.
They thanked him for the present.”
This paragraph should not end with a closing quotation mark.
“’My wife! What a strange day I have had.
Again, possible thin space, and the inner mark is a closing, not an opening, mark.
“So when I meet Lancer again, I should laugh at him?”
“Can you imagine anything more terrible?” she countered. For a pony like that, I had to conclude I really couldn’t think of any.
Since it's referring to Lancer, should "pony" be "zebra?"
Its frozen grin said quietly: Ante up.
I think that this, based on your usage in the rest of the chapter indicating you don't capitalize after a colon, either should have "ante" uncapitalized, or finish with ": 'Ante up.' " capitalized as the first word of a quotation.
Possible missing commas:
Give me one good[,] solid reason.
Glory yelled at him in a wet[,] snuffling voice.
The ground way[,] way below.
Yeah[,] yeah.
Finally[,] the Volunteer Corps were established.
Oh[,] wasn’t that a mistake.
"Grey" shows up once each in chapters 11, 34, 35, 36, 42, and 46; in all other cases you spell the color "gray."
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Mon May 13, 2013 7:22 pm
Ah, thank you.
I'm separating this out to increase the chances that Somber will see it:
I'm separating this out to increase the chances that Somber will see it:
Icy Shake wrote:Just to clarify, it looks like your style both here and elsewhere is to not underline or hyphenate book or periodical titles, but to put article titles in single-quotes?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Icy Shake Tue May 14, 2013 12:29 am
O. Hinds wrote:Ah, thank you.
I'm separating this out to increase the chances that Somber will see it:Icy Shake wrote:Just to clarify, it looks like your style both here and elsewhere is to not underline or hyphenate book or periodical titles, but to put article titles in single-quotes?
Oops. That should have been "italicize," not "hyphenate."
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Tue May 14, 2013 2:21 pm
@Swicked poems
Nice. I like the P-21 one best, I think (not that the other was poor, of course!) - you've always had a good grasp of his character, I feel. And the oldschool rhyme schemes area always nice, as well. :)
Nice. I like the P-21 one best, I think (not that the other was poor, of course!) - you've always had a good grasp of his character, I feel. And the oldschool rhyme schemes area always nice, as well. :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Walker006 Thu May 16, 2013 12:32 pm
Hey guys! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. Thought I'd drop in since we're at an awesome cliffhanger in the story right now.
Just thought I'd mention that I LOVE the IRL music that Somber incorporates in Project Horizons. Namely "Hell" by the Squirrel Nut Zippers and "16 Tons" by Tennessee Ford. The scene in Hightower where Rampage sings 16 Tons fucking cracked me up. The fact that it was ponified made it even better.
I think it's awesome that we actually see O. Hinds, Bronode and Somber on these boards! Keep up the good work guys :)
Just thought I'd mention that I LOVE the IRL music that Somber incorporates in Project Horizons. Namely "Hell" by the Squirrel Nut Zippers and "16 Tons" by Tennessee Ford. The scene in Hightower where Rampage sings 16 Tons fucking cracked me up. The fact that it was ponified made it even better.
I think it's awesome that we actually see O. Hinds, Bronode and Somber on these boards! Keep up the good work guys :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Thu May 16, 2013 12:44 pm
Hihi, and welcome to the thread and forums and stuff!Walker006 wrote:Hey guys! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. Thought I'd drop in since we're at an awesome cliffhanger in the story right now.
Just thought I'd mention that I LOVE the IRL music that Somber incorporates in Project Horizons. Namely "Hell" by the Squirrel Nut Zippers and "16 Tons" by Tennessee Ford. The scene in Hightower where Rampage sings 16 Tons fucking cracked me up. The fact that it was ponified made it even better.
I think it's awesome that we actually see O. Hinds, Bronode and Somber on these boards! Keep up the good work guys :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Stringtheory Thu May 16, 2013 12:54 pm
Welcome! As a first post welcome gift pick one of the following: a shotgun, a bottle of whiskey, or infinite sanity (don't pick the sanity, it's not worth it around here)Walker006 wrote:Hey guys! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. Thought I'd drop in since we're at an awesome cliffhanger in the story right now.
Just thought I'd mention that I LOVE the IRL music that Somber incorporates in Project Horizons. Namely "Hell" by the Squirrel Nut Zippers and "16 Tons" by Tennessee Ford. The scene in Hightower where Rampage sings 16 Tons fucking cracked me up. The fact that it was ponified made it even better.
I think it's awesome that we actually see O. Hinds, Bronode and Somber on these boards! Keep up the good work guys :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Thu May 16, 2013 3:03 pm
You mean you weren't born that way ?swicked wrote:I thought I picked the infinite sanity, but I think they mixed mine up with infinite depravity, 'cause I swear I don't remember being so into grimdark prior to reading Somber's stuff...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Thu May 16, 2013 3:57 pm
Nay. In matters of villainy, you went One Step Beyond. Above and beyond the Call of Duty.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by StoneSlinger88 Thu May 16, 2013 4:00 pm
The Gaga isn't a rickroll. There's even some idiot spewing stuff in the comments about if the world's leaders were artistic there'd be no problems, at which point I took to remind him of Hitler's paintings.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Thu May 16, 2013 8:07 pm
Welcome!Walker006 wrote:Hey guys! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. Thought I'd drop in since we're at an awesome cliffhanger in the story right now.
Just thought I'd mention that I LOVE the IRL music that Somber incorporates in Project Horizons. Namely "Hell" by the Squirrel Nut Zippers and "16 Tons" by Tennessee Ford. The scene in Hightower where Rampage sings 16 Tons fucking cracked me up. The fact that it was ponified made it even better.
I think it's awesome that we actually see O. Hinds, Bronode and Somber on these boards! Keep up the good work guys :)
Also, wow; I don't believe that anyone's ever before said that my mere presence was awesome.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Kippershy Sat May 18, 2013 12:40 pm
Somber, you better damn well be lurking here too and you better damn well listen to my god damn advice/comment.
Some things just won't change.
Some things that shouldn't be said will be by certain individuals if they think they can get away with it.
I know it's upsetting for you, and I know it's hard to even consider, but there's nothing you can do about those jokes and so you've just got to try let go of them if you're going to lurk the FOE threads.
They like to bitch about anything they can, not all of them, but either enough of them or one or two who are just active enough to seem like a lot.
The FOE threads are a mess of good and bad, and if you want the good, you gotta wade through the bad and do your best to ignore it.
Some things just won't change.
Some things that shouldn't be said will be by certain individuals if they think they can get away with it.
I know it's upsetting for you, and I know it's hard to even consider, but there's nothing you can do about those jokes and so you've just got to try let go of them if you're going to lurk the FOE threads.
They like to bitch about anything they can, not all of them, but either enough of them or one or two who are just active enough to seem like a lot.
The FOE threads are a mess of good and bad, and if you want the good, you gotta wade through the bad and do your best to ignore it.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Somber Sat May 18, 2013 1:16 pm
Some things need to be said. They can bash me all they want. They don't get a pass in bashing her.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Kippershy Sat May 18, 2013 1:27 pm
Swicked, I don't even keep track of these things.
I honestly couldn't tell you, but I know I've said it before at least once.
Even if I've posted it many times (can't remember) it doesn't matter.
Needs to be said all the same.
Somber - I know that's how you feel and yes, it is bad, but you'll only make it worse by reacting.
Feeding the trolls with replies like that lets them know that it works. You know what they're going to do? Make even more jokes, as if it wasn't a common enough joke as it is.
We thought it was getting tiring and that people were going to stop posting it, but now you've basically said to them "yeah, it works, it pisses me off" and if they're a real bastard, they'll do it next time you announce yourself just for kicks.
I'm not saying you can't feel upset by it, but letting others know your upset is only bad news when you can pin blame and therefore negative reputation on someone because they choose not to use a name.
I honestly couldn't tell you, but I know I've said it before at least once.
Even if I've posted it many times (can't remember) it doesn't matter.
Needs to be said all the same.
Somber - I know that's how you feel and yes, it is bad, but you'll only make it worse by reacting.
Feeding the trolls with replies like that lets them know that it works. You know what they're going to do? Make even more jokes, as if it wasn't a common enough joke as it is.
We thought it was getting tiring and that people were going to stop posting it, but now you've basically said to them "yeah, it works, it pisses me off" and if they're a real bastard, they'll do it next time you announce yourself just for kicks.
I'm not saying you can't feel upset by it, but letting others know your upset is only bad news when you can pin blame and therefore negative reputation on someone because they choose not to use a name.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Somber Sat May 18, 2013 1:40 pm
I deleted it.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Kippershy Sat May 18, 2013 1:47 pm
Well ya know what? I'm going to keep on saying it every time that he visits and does himself harm. You can either disagree with me on my methods and choices or you can agree to disagree and accept I'm going to keep doing it.
4chan doesn't have to be a terrible place. It can be at times, because there are assholes - but just like there are assholes, there are also cool people occasionally.
My friend, SevenSixTwo, is a great example. I hope I'm somewhat of an example. I know a guy called Tom, who is a perfect example. Or Joey. Or Arcus. Or so many other people I know.
I don't want Somber to be bombarded with trolls every time he goes there because I know that it can be better than that and I know that they don't all view him poorly. There ARE some who still love PH there, they stay quiet mostly but they're there.
Likewise, there are some who want to see Somber reach his real potential as a writer because they know what an amazing writer he is and they feel some of the choices he's made aren't the best - they want Project Horizons to live up to what it could be.
Are they wrong? Sometimes in how they go about things, maybe.
In general terms however? No, not really. Opinions are opinions and if Somber doesn't respond to the bait, trolls won't be as much of an issue and he'll be able to find the better aspects of it all, hopefully.
I'm not going to force Somber to still go there, but I do hope he does and I hope when he does, he gets to see the more civil, thoughtful side of things where people might give him their constructive suggestions and feedback in such a way that doesn't hurt his feelings.
It can happen, but like I say, feeding the trolls makes it less likely to be so.
I'm trying to look out for the guy in a way, even if I do also want him to go into some of the riskier areas to get a broad spectrum of feedback.
4chan doesn't have to be a terrible place. It can be at times, because there are assholes - but just like there are assholes, there are also cool people occasionally.
My friend, SevenSixTwo, is a great example. I hope I'm somewhat of an example. I know a guy called Tom, who is a perfect example. Or Joey. Or Arcus. Or so many other people I know.
I don't want Somber to be bombarded with trolls every time he goes there because I know that it can be better than that and I know that they don't all view him poorly. There ARE some who still love PH there, they stay quiet mostly but they're there.
Likewise, there are some who want to see Somber reach his real potential as a writer because they know what an amazing writer he is and they feel some of the choices he's made aren't the best - they want Project Horizons to live up to what it could be.
Are they wrong? Sometimes in how they go about things, maybe.
In general terms however? No, not really. Opinions are opinions and if Somber doesn't respond to the bait, trolls won't be as much of an issue and he'll be able to find the better aspects of it all, hopefully.
I'm not going to force Somber to still go there, but I do hope he does and I hope when he does, he gets to see the more civil, thoughtful side of things where people might give him their constructive suggestions and feedback in such a way that doesn't hurt his feelings.
It can happen, but like I say, feeding the trolls makes it less likely to be so.
I'm trying to look out for the guy in a way, even if I do also want him to go into some of the riskier areas to get a broad spectrum of feedback.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Kippershy Sat May 18, 2013 1:48 pm
Hopefully the majority of people will never see it. Archives will contain the post, as will anyone whose kept the page open since before you deleted it, but I'm glad all the same.Somber wrote:I deleted it.
Like I say, I want you to see the good sides of it too, not just the trolls.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by tylertoon2 Sat May 18, 2013 5:29 pm
Oh, not this 4chan shit again. I don't want another fifteen page near flame war.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Kippershy Sat May 18, 2013 5:31 pm
I'm not trying to flame war and I've made my point, no need to go further.
Fact was Somber was posting there and I wanted to make sure he listened to the advice, because I'm pretty sure he ignores it when I'm anonymous. Well, he probably ignores it anyway, but it's better I say it here too so I can have my name behind it than just be "some anon".
Fact was Somber was posting there and I wanted to make sure he listened to the advice, because I'm pretty sure he ignores it when I'm anonymous. Well, he probably ignores it anyway, but it's better I say it here too so I can have my name behind it than just be "some anon".
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by tylertoon2 Sat May 18, 2013 5:35 pm
Kippershy wrote:I'm not trying to flame war and I've made my point, no need to go further.
Fact was Somber was posting there and I wanted to make sure he listened to the advice, because I'm pretty sure he ignores it when I'm anonymous. Well, he probably ignores it anyway, but it's better I say it here too so I can have my name behind it than just be "some anon".
No problem kipster. Just don't want to go through that again.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Sat May 18, 2013 6:11 pm
Huh, it may be that I haven't followed this thread the last time it happened, but was it that traumatic ?
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by Somber Sat May 18, 2013 6:28 pm
It's stupid.
Back in high school, my friend was in a fire and burned over fifty percent of her body. I didn't know how to handle it, so I stayed away. So did everyone else. Her mom died in the same fire and so when she left the burn unit she went to live with an uncle. She lasted a week or two before she finally broke down and checked out. I wasn't there for her when she needed me. Since then I've always had issues with burns. Just, not something I deal with well. Some folks think its something funny to mock, I guess.
Back in high school, my friend was in a fire and burned over fifty percent of her body. I didn't know how to handle it, so I stayed away. So did everyone else. Her mom died in the same fire and so when she left the burn unit she went to live with an uncle. She lasted a week or two before she finally broke down and checked out. I wasn't there for her when she needed me. Since then I've always had issues with burns. Just, not something I deal with well. Some folks think its something funny to mock, I guess.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Sat May 18, 2013 6:38 pm
Well, considering such a personal experience, I'd say having problem with fire-related injuries isn't stupid.
I mean, that'd be like, if someone lost a close friend in a car accident, could you blame him/her for getting nervous around cars and losing their shit about reckless driving ?
I mean, that'd be like, if someone lost a close friend in a car accident, could you blame him/her for getting nervous around cars and losing their shit about reckless driving ?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Sat May 18, 2013 6:43 pm
Sigh. Why must people be such jerks?Somber wrote:It's stupid.
Back in high school, my friend was in a fire and burned over fifty percent of her body. I didn't know how to handle it, so I stayed away. So did everyone else. Her mom died in the same fire and so when she left the burn unit she went to live with an uncle. She lasted a week or two before she finally broke down and checked out. I wasn't there for her when she needed me. Since then I've always had issues with burns. Just, not something I deal with well. Some folks think its something funny to mock, I guess.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Sat May 18, 2013 6:53 pm
Why is water wet ?O. Hinds wrote:Sigh. Why must people be such jerks?
Without going too deep into philosophy / sociology, I think we've all been able to see with our own eyes, sometimes because we were the ones doing it, that it is easy to pull out some degree of satisfaction and sadistic pleasure from making others suffer.
I'd say that's to be expected from a species like ours which evolved from group dynamics of some exerting dominance over others through strength and intimidation.
If you make the other feel like he is worth less than you, then you'll have done half of the job as far as exerting dominance over them goes.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Ketchup Sat May 18, 2013 7:13 pm
They were mocking that? Seriously, how low can people get? Someone is dead, and death is far from cheap, it's not something to mock.O. Hinds wrote:Sigh. Why must people be such jerks?Somber wrote:It's stupid.
Back in high school, my friend was in a fire and burned over fifty percent of her body. I didn't know how to handle it, so I stayed away. So did everyone else. Her mom died in the same fire and so when she left the burn unit she went to live with an uncle. She lasted a week or two before she finally broke down and checked out. I wasn't there for her when she needed me. Since then I've always had issues with burns. Just, not something I deal with well. Some folks think its something funny to mock, I guess.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Derpmind Sat May 18, 2013 9:55 pm
Ketchup wrote:They were mocking that? Seriously, how low can people get? Someone is dead, and death is far from cheap, it's not somethieg to mock.
The Internet is one of the greatest inventions of Humankind... but the problem with the open internet is that by letting anyone say or upload anything, you get absolutely everything. Rule 34 is the most obvious, but it goes deeper than that. The kind of unthinking hatred that bangs about in some echo-chambers convinces many (idiots) that those words are as free of consequences (and therefore responsibility) as they are cheap. (It takes these morons how long to type and post their words?) Some people just never learned to care about others, and in places like 4chan they can really make the atmosphere extremely toxic. Now here in Cloudsville and lots of other FiM places, people are generally nicer than elsewhere. It's really for no other reason than most of us FiM fans just want to be nicer to each other (and make some friends). There's lots of other places and comunities on the internet where you'd never see someone that kind of mindless hatred.
The internet exposes all of human culture. All of it. And some cultures are, objectively speaking, batshit insane. Seriously read some history for a few hours and tell me I'm wrong. Someday in the slightly optimistic future, public education will include (objective and applied) socializing and morality as mandatory learning for everyone. (Friendship lessons!) We're living in the future, what are we doing not making the next generations more capable of dealing with this crap?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Caoimhe Sat May 18, 2013 10:16 pm
God damnit, not again.
Seriously though, I can't believe 4chan would be that concerned over canon details in vanilla FoE that much. I understand that they're just trying to get a rise out of you though. I just hate annoying and immature people like that.
Seriously though, I can't believe 4chan would be that concerned over canon details in vanilla FoE that much. I understand that they're just trying to get a rise out of you though. I just hate annoying and immature people like that.
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