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Post by tylertoon2 Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:40 am

Just a reminder to all the new folks on lately

We have an off topic discussion thread here: https://cloudsville.rpg-board.net/t973p750-official-project-horizons-comment-crew-chat-thread

As well as a currently active minecraft server here: https://cloudsville.rpg-board.net/t749-phccminecraft-server
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Post by WavemasterRyx Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:41 am

Exodus Hero wrote:I honestly thought that was an axe for a good long while and kept staring at it wondering why she was holding an axe until it hit me that it was a flag.
SilentCarto wrote:If your axe flaps in the breeze, you're doing it wrong.
Just sayin'.
Ironically, one of my iterations of my namesake character used an axe as their weapon of choice.

But indeed, it's supposed to be a flag, not a bendy axe. A flag with Somber's cutie mark, and silver highlighting added to the edges of the cloud, because of symbolism that honestly I'm a bit dodgy on whether it's true or not...
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Post by Derpmind Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:26 pm

So I looked at the PH page on TV tropes today and HOLY FUDGE-MACKERAL, IT'S HUGE!
Take a few seconds to scroll to the bottom. It's basically the same size as the FoE entry. (Both are around 12,000 words according to the wordcount in Microsoft Word.)
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:27 am

This is pretty relevant to PH, so I'm posting it here, but it's not directly related.

Margaret Atwood's writing a serialized novel called Positron. I'm reading it. It's pretty dang good so far. How's it related to PH? Well, the setting's quite reminiscent of one of a Stable, actually, one of those "make a better society" experiments that just isn't quite on. It's got some themes of 99 specifically, too - check it out if you're in the mood, the segments aren't too long and there are like three out. It's cheap, too.

Anyway, another thing - Somber, if you like publishing serially, it's potentially becoming a thing again.

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Post by Train Dodger Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:25 pm

You know, it just hit me.

Spoiler:
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Post by Meleagridis Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:40 pm

So I'm-a-browsing through the Hightower arc and I notice Blackjack gets a security footage blackout when she unseals Eternity from a terminal. Does anyone else remember the other instances of the camera things (which I'm assuming are related to the spy program in her head)? Were these always triggered by... interaction with technology? Use of EC-1101? Any connection?
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Post by Downloaded Skill Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:41 pm

Train I'm also pretty sure that they... consummated their friendship in 34/35, going on what Homage implies. Guess we can add incest to that list Tytan made.
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Post by Exodus Hero Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:48 pm

Downloaded Skill wrote:Train I'm also pretty sure that they... consummated their friendship in 34/35, going on what Homage implies. Guess we can add incest to that list Tytan made.

This just got very disturbing.
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Post by Meleagridis Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:04 pm

Minor error in Chapter 46:

“Buck up, soldier! Equestria wasn’t won by bellyaching!” Cerberus said he floated beneath the doorway.

He said he floated beneath the doorway, so floated beneath the doorway should really be in quotation marks. Spike
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Post by O. Hinds Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:53 pm

Meleagridis wrote:Minor error in Chapter 46:

“Buck up, soldier! Equestria wasn’t won by bellyaching!” Cerberus said he floated beneath the doorway.

He said he floated beneath the doorway, so floated beneath the doorway should really be in quotation marks. Spike
Ah, thank you.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:10 am

Exodus Hero wrote:
Downloaded Skill wrote:Train I'm also pretty sure that they... consummated their friendship in 34/35, going on what Homage implies. Guess we can add incest to that list Tytan made.

This just got very disturbing.
Their respective stables were probably significantly more incestuous than any sex the two protagonists may or may not have had.

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Post by Moodyman90 Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:43 am

Granted any Stable that lasted long enough probably reached the point where you was lucky if whoever you ended up with wasn't any closer then being a third or second cousin on either side of the family.

And short of a Stable that quite literally only had one family, Stable 2 was probably the most inbred since it's stated in story most of the ponies that was in there was Apple family members. Granted that could just mean ponies who are only related by name alone rather than genetics but still.

That said, and this is going from my horrible memory, there wasn't much stock taken in Littlepip's heritage to the point where if anybody cared she may be the direct decedent of Applejack it didn't pop up in story. Or it was over shadowed by Velvet being Sweetie Bell's decedent.

So as far as kissing cousins, it's way less squicky than the royal families of Europe at one point in history.
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Post by jacky2734 Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:07 am

Moodyman90 wrote:
...So as far as kissing cousins, it's way less squicky than the royal families of Europe at one point in history.

Key example, Cesare and Lucrezia Borgia.
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Post by Train Dodger Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:35 am

Since Mel mentioned an error, I thought I'd chip in, too:

Chapter 1:

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Post by O. Hinds Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:42 am

Train Dodger wrote:Since Mel mentioned an error, I thought I'd chip in, too:

Chapter 1:

When I proofread documents, I catch everything. Twilight crazy
Ah, thank you.

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Post by Moodyman90 Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:37 pm

Only thing I know about ellipses is that it's best to stick to just three dots and three dots alone if you're going to use them at all.
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Post by Stringtheory Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:44 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:Only thing I know about ellipses is that it's best to stick to just three dots and three dots alone if you're going to use them at all.
Correct, an ellipse only has three dots and there's no reason to put another period after one.
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Post by Icy Shake Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:00 pm

stringtheory wrote:
Moodyman90 wrote:Only thing I know about ellipses is that it's best to stick to just three dots and three dots alone if you're going to use them at all.
Correct, an ellipse only has three dots and there's no reason to put another period after one.

True, but if you are using the ellipsis to indicate omitted words immediately following the end of a sentence ending with a period (which, admittedly, is not the usage here), then there is reason to put an ellipsis following a period, still getting you four consecutive dots—though it could look different depending on whether you use one or two spaces following a period and whether the ellipsis is made manually (with or without internal spacing) or if an ellipsis character is used (for instance, "[word]. . . . [New sentence]" vs. "[word]. . . . [New sentence]").
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Post by Stringtheory Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:06 pm

Icy Shake wrote:
stringtheory wrote:
Moodyman90 wrote:Only thing I know about ellipses is that it's best to stick to just three dots and three dots alone if you're going to use them at all.
Correct, an ellipse only has three dots and there's no reason to put another period after one.

True, but if you are using the ellipsis to indicate omitted words immediately following the end of a sentence ending with a period (which, admittedly, is not the usage here), then there is reason to put an ellipsis following a period, still getting you four consecutive dots—though it could look different depending on whether you use one or two spaces following a period and whether the ellipsis is made manually (with or without internal spacing) or if an ellipsis character is used (for instance, "[word]. . . . [New sentence]" vs. "[word]. . . . [New sentence]").
True, though like you said, that isn't the usage here.
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Post by FeatherDust Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:21 pm

Icy Shake wrote:it could look different depending on whether you use one or two spaces following a period and whether the ellipsis is made manually (with or without internal spacing) or if an ellipsis character is used (for instance, "[word]. . . . [New sentence]" vs. "[word]. . . . [New sentence]").
The board actually collapses multiple consecutive spaces into one, so your 'vs' there looks the same on both sides. Spike
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Post by Icy Shake Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:18 pm

FeatherDust wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:it could look different depending on whether you use one or two spaces following a period and whether the ellipsis is made manually (with or without internal spacing) or if an ellipsis character is used (for instance, "[word]. . . . [New sentence]" vs. "[word]. . . . [New sentence]").
The board actually collapses multiple consecutive spaces into one, so your 'vs' there looks the same on both sides. Spike

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Post by Train Dodger Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:30 am

Oh crap, I just remembered. You know how we were talking about a theme song for Blackjack? This one makes my eyes well up with tears every single time I hear it.

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I had this one playing on a custom MP3 radio station mod in Fallout 3. It's like a punch in the gut when you approach the outskirts of Old Olney and this starts playing. You mercilessly slaughter a few Deathclaws with your giant arsenal, and then, when you look upon the corpses of a few innocent genetically-engineered animals that just wanted to be left the hell alone, you wonder, what the hell is it all for, anyway?
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Post by AGurdel Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:25 am

FeatherDust wrote:The board actually collapses multiple consecutive spaces into one, so your 'vs' there looks the same on both sides. Spike
The board preserves the spaces just fine. It's a feature of HTML thats removing them.

You can use   to create multiple               spaces. And you should also use … for the proper ellipsis character. (... vs. …)
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Post by Caoimhe Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:58 am

Train Dodger wrote:Oh crap, I just remembered. You know how we were talking about a theme song for Blackjack? This one makes my eyes well up with tears every single time I hear it.

Spoiler:

I had this one playing on a custom MP3 radio station mod in Fallout 3. It's like a punch in the gut when you approach the outskirts of Old Olney and this starts playing. You mercilessly slaughter a few Deathclaws with your giant arsenal, and then, when you look upon the corpses of a few innocent genetically-engineered animals that just wanted to be left the hell alone, you wonder, what the hell is it all for, anyway?

Angels of Light are an amazing band, actually they're a side project of my brother and I's favourite band, Swans. I think I actually posted one of the tracks here saying it'd be a good PH tune. How about that?
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Post by Meleagridis Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:54 am

swicked wrote:
...in fallout 2, there were intelligent deathclaws and, per the fallout bible, once those died off, the rest are just animals.
Do you also feel guilty about bloat flies? Rad roaches? Giant scorpions and Yao guai?

It's Fallout. I feel a little bad for everything. In the end we still have to shoot them in the head, but doesn't mean we can't feel sorry for them Excepting radroaches. They're... they're giant cockroaches. I'm pretty sure insects got the long straw during the apocalypse, the best lot. Then again, they wouldn't really have high standards.

One of the Fallout Bible people was asked about Goris and the other potentially alive intelligent deathclaw. I can't remember his exact quote, but it was something along the lines of, "He died, along with every other talking animal, plant, and silly, ridiculous thing in Fallout 1 and 2." Which I thought was hilarious.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:34 pm

Man, I felt bad for radroaches. It was like... I'm walking along, sledgehammer in hand, and I see a few roaches. They're worth negligible experience, and I'm not so starved that roachmeat's lookin' appetizing. But the poor blighters see me, and some teeny tiny irradiated cluster of nerves that has the dubious honor of being called "brain" decides that the human strolling along the waterfront would make a good meal. So, y'know... one or two swings later, and there's a lot of roach goop splattered everywhere. I can't not feel bad for 'em - they had better chances of survival when they just scrambled for the nearest hole in the wall upon seeing a human. Truly, the roach's is a cruel lot.

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Post by O. Hinds Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:32 pm

We've made a relatively minor change to Chapter 39:
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:39 am

Train Dodger wrote:Oh crap, I just remembered. You know how we were talking about a theme song for Blackjack? This one makes my eyes well up with tears every single time I hear it.

Spoiler:

I had this one playing on a custom MP3 radio station mod in Fallout 3. It's like a punch in the gut when you approach the outskirts of Old Olney and this starts playing. You mercilessly slaughter a few Deathclaws with your giant arsenal, and then, when you look upon the corpses of a few innocent genetically-engineered animals that just wanted to be left the hell alone, you wonder, what the hell is it all for, anyway?
Indeed, looking up at the song's lyrics, I could see it fit as a theme song of sort for BlackJack.

lyrics:
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Meleagridis wrote:One of the Fallout Bible people was asked about Goris and the other potentially alive intelligent deathclaw. I can't remember his exact quote, but it was something along the lines of, "He died, along with every other talking animal, plant, and silly, ridiculous thing in Fallout 1 and 2." Which I thought was hilarious.
I hope he doesn't have much say in said bible, because in my opinion, the overall silliness of Fallout's setting along with its (more often than not dark) humor is what makes the games work for me.

I mean, if I want gritty post-apocalyptic I'll play Metro 2033 or Stalker.

Fallout in my opinion is meant to be silly.
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