Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[Guest]

@Wavey
Very nice! My friend, who reads PH but doesn't comment, really enjoyed the P-21 one. :)

[StoneSlinger88]

That looks like me going through browser history before Chrome Incognito.

[WavemasterRyx]

I don't have much to say about the second one; it's cute, but that's nothing unusual for you.
The first one, though: Hahahahee! I particularly like the expression on his face.

Heh, well the second one I did just want to be a "pointlessly cute Boo
nomming cake" picture, so thank you. For P-21... I just wanted it to be a
totally silly picture, to undermine the person basically saying Boo
should kill Glory.

Very nice! My friend, who reads PH but doesn't comment, really enjoyed the P-21 one. :)

Thank you, OAC, I'm glad you like it, and that's great your friend likes it too, heh.

*saves forever*
Edit: I'm totally gonna use this everywhere, btw.

*giggles* I'm glad you like it, swicked, and that's perfectly fine, you can use it wherever you want. My mom already had me make an avatar out of it for her to use, heh.

That looks like me going through browser history before Chrome Incognito.

Maybe he found Blackjack's!

What have I done?...

[StoneSlinger88]

I can imagine it now. Blackjack finds Spike's old hard drive, convinces Glory to hook it up to a terminal... P-21 has to drag her away from it...

[StoneSlinger88]

I doubt the most secretive being in Equestria would just let someone (especially Blackjack) get access to his current files. It'd be far more likely one of his old terminals still has a functioning HDD in the Ponyville library. I'm assuming the ponies used magic to solve the problem of an HDD degrading over a few decades, of course.

[RoboRed]

So, today was somewhat productive. The Boo tumblr has been updated with 2 new posts.

http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45883643027 for a little silly P-21 and
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45891987717 for adorable cake nomming.

*Hhhhhngggggnggnhhnnn*
(I swear, I'm going to find a way to use that gif as a reaction image.)

[Meleagridis]

Appropriately enough we take a trip down memory lane as I’m rushing through the backlog to catch up. Just like old times. Found my first post, a little thank you, along with buried arguments, lots of Boo, and the old writing contest. Nostalgic.

Now all we need is Kattlarv coming on and discussing vaginas and all will be right with the world!

I miss...Kim...

It isn’t quite the same without her around, no. She earned us that [GRIMDARK] tag up there, after all. But you know who else I miss, especially after those old posts from the comment thread?

Random Blank. Always worthwhile things to say, that one. Wouldn’t have dared do pony if it wasn’t for him.

http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/image/15020383186

Can’t not see this without Mega-Deus in the background in full formal wear.

I'm all for the techno fighting arena idea.

Can't you guys get Beyond Thunderdome?

Par for the course here it seems.
Also 1000 posts, woo!

Right, who's in charge of dragging this one into the Vats?

Hey, what do you call a super mutant from Paris?
French Dip.

Hey, I feel plenty! Like... schadenfreude! Got plenty of that!

♪ SCHAAAAAdenfreude! Making me feel glad that I'm not you! ♪

Well, according to my contract I am now in debt of a life of servitude to each of you. It says I can apply for clemency with Carto’s reference, but it is very clear on the terms of terrible, wonderful puns.
Why did I sign this?

I’ll just hold onto this in case of emergencies...

And how thoughtless of me, of course you can’t tell anyone your birthday wish.

Went ranting about Deus:

Echo bemoans seeing everything and doing nothing. Doof didn’t see nearly as much, but unlike Twist or Gorgon he didn’t have his brain screwed with to forget the past. He saw everything happening and... probably didn’t understand any of it. He’s been there since the beginning, watching the world go to hell.

It’d be novel if a character like that survived. Going on as a living relic like Fluttershy from the original FOE. Just trying to go on, maybe even do better depending on the impression Blackjack leaves. But he’s painted in targets of all sorts. The best thing to hope for is some 200+ year old closure.

Revision Revue!:

[Harmony Ltd.]

@ Mel RE Deus :

The first thing that came to my mind...

"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in."

I could imagine him being bitter.

[Sindri]

Echo bemoans seeing everything and doing nothing. Doof didn’t see nearly as much, but unlike Twist or Gorgon he didn’t have his brain screwed with to forget the past. He saw everything happening and... probably didn’t understand any of it. He’s been there since the beginning, watching the world go to hell.

It’d be novel if a character like that survived. Going on as a living relic like Fluttershy from the original FOE. Just trying to go on, maybe even do better depending on the impression Blackjack leaves. But he’s painted in targets of all sorts. The best thing to hope for is some 200+ year old closure.

Oh, it gets worse. Doof is slow, sure. He didn't have a chance of figuring out what was going on at the time. But he's had two hundred years to reflect on matters. Every mistake he made, every time he was manipulated, every time a good, clever pony would have taken action, Echo chose not to act, and he never realized there was a choice to be made. All through the clarity of hindsight and centuries of analysis. Maybe he didn't see as much as Echo. More likely he saw a lot more; Echo was a good little soldier but Doof was a prisoner, a test subject, then a weapon of mass destruction, and an imbecile to boot, so why would anyone bother to hide anything from him? And he wouldn't have understood any of it at the time, but now... he probably just wishes he didn't.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Uh. I was under the impression that Deus had been put into the freezer before the Holocaust, and that Sanguine thawed him only recently - a few decades from the start of the story, one century at most.

Did I get it wrong ?

[Icy Shake]

In the spirit of the last few days, I've gone spleunking to find my first post in the community.

. . . Dwarves are insular, but every community worth its salt has a Dwarven enclave. They're excellent at getting and loaning money, but every now and then humans will cry 'Dwarven Conspiracy' and turn on them. Dwarves just run for their lives, wait a human generation, get invited back, sweep out the ashes, and raise interest rates. And the cycle continues. ...

Yeah, been thinking about it a long time. But I won't put words down till Horizons is finished. I also have a sci-fi fic in mind too... that one might be shorter.

I'm liking the base of this world-building already, though what stood out the most to me were the Dwarves. It seems like you might be going with Tolkein's Semitic base turned up a notch, even if that's just my first impression. Nice to have more diversity in Dwarves than having them all be Scots.

Anyway, would definitely give that story a shot if you get around to it. Your writing really improves any day it touches, so thank you--and your editors--for all the work you put into it.

It looks like it will still be quite a while before I get to read that, though. But I'll have Project Horizons in the meantime.

On a related note, a month or so ago I ran across a related essay while looking for Tolkien's On Fairy Stories: "Dwarves are not Heroes": antisemitism and the Dwarves in J.R.R. Tolkien's writing.

My first post actually related to PH wasn't until a few days later and was, interestingly, also a responce to Kim:

And ah, as said, I got a worthless memory, I just recall a chair being mentioned xP And as said, I still don't get how Psalm would have made it out from there in time, unless there was around an hour before the next bomb... or how many miles can she see and shoot with that thing? Seeing how she seemed to see perfectly fine several kilometres into the next town, or wherever she now was looking. I prolly remember it wrong but, whatever. I found that whole segment kinda odd.

Well, real-world snipers have confirmed kills up to 2.5km, but the record is closer to 2.3km near sea level. I would imagine they can see farther than that. Throw in magical enhancements and the range should be further improved. As for her escape, I imagine that the balefire bombs would be in the low kiloton range, and so have kill radii of around a couple of kilometers, assuming power drop off comparable to nukes.

Of course, I'm not sure my memory is much better than yours, so if anyone has a more accurate description of balefire bombs' characteristics, I would not say no to a refresher course.

Love the "Delete" gif. Though I can't claim to relate to those who are reminded of pre–Private Browsing['s Chrome equivalent] days: I remember there being "delete last x hours' history" on Firefox and IE well before Chrome even existed, and used that when I didn't want to get rid of all history.

Just for some topical relevance, anyone remember the big Deus morality and forgiveness discussion back in August just after Boing's return? Good times, those. It'll be interesting to see just how he turns out, but I do have real concerns on the basis that happiness's half life is pretty low around here.

[WavemasterRyx]

*Hhhhhngggggnggnhhnnn*
(I swear, I'm going to find a way to use that gif as a reaction image.)

Thank you, Robo. Lots of people seem to like P-21 heh.

Appropriately enough we take a trip down memory
lane as I’m rushing through the backlog to catch up. Just like old
times. Found my first post, a little thank you, along with buried
arguments, lots of Boo, and the old writing contest. Nostalgic.

I’ll just hold onto this in case of emergencies...

And how thoughtless of me, of course you can’t tell anyone your birthday wish.

Ah that writing contest was fun. My first post isn't very hard to find, it's the 9th post on the first page of the first thread lol. It always amazes me just how short my comments on the chapters used to be.

Heh, I'm glad you like P-21 too. And I just thought it was a better alternative to Boo just admitting her wish was cake related.

Love the "Delete" gif. Though I can't claim to relate
to those who are reminded of pre–Private Browsing['s Chrome equivalent]
days: I remember there being "delete last x hours' history" on Firefox
and IE well before Chrome even existed, and used that when I didn't want
to get rid of all history.

Heh, thank you.
Actually I never had a problem with people reading my history, since my parents just let me have my own user account on the shared computer until I bought my own later.


Oh yes, just a word of warning. I don't mind anyone taking the P-21 gif and using it for their own purposes. However, if it is ever used in a disparaging manner towards Project Horizons, I reserve the right to burn the offending party at the stake.

[RoboRed]

Oh yes, just a word of warning. I don't mind anyone taking the P-21 gif and using it for their own purposes. However, if it is ever used in a disparaging manner towards Project Horizons, I reserve the right to burn the offending party at the stake.

And we will bring the marshmallows.

[The Holy Tuna]

Unrelated question, but what happened to Stonewing's flight jacket? I haven't heard it mentioned since Blackjack fount it.

[CamoBadger]

Oh yes, just a word of warning. I don't mind anyone taking the P-21 gif and using it for their own purposes. However, if it is ever used in a disparaging manner towards Project Horizons, I reserve the right to burn the offending party at the stake.

I totally don't already have it bookmarked for use against more 'wtf' inducing posts (most likely from kipper). And no, it will not be used negatively against PH. If it is, I will look the other way while you ignite the pyre.

Also, I love that gif, it's amazing and you should feel amazing.

[Sindri]

Unrelated question, but what happened to Stonewing's flight jacket? I haven't heard it mentioned since Blackjack fount it.

I... might be remembering her passing it to somepony in SSXanthe's party? I need to go back and look it up, but I won't have a chance until late tonight.

[SilentCarto]

Unrelated question, but what happened to Stonewing's flight jacket? I haven't heard it mentioned since Blackjack fount it.

You know, I was thinking about that just the other day. I think, between Tulip's murder, the balefire bomb, dying again, the encounter with the hellhound, and getting thrown into a wall, she kinda forgot to give it to Glory.

[Downloaded Skill]

Unrelated question, but what happened to Stonewing's flight jacket? I haven't heard it mentioned since Blackjack fount it.

You know, I was thinking about that just the other day. I think, between Tulip's murder, the balefire bomb, dying again, the encounter with the hellhound, and getting thrown into a wall, she kinda forgot to give it to Glory.

Glory really should get that jacket. Just about everyone has a significant item or ability and I don't think Glory wears armor. Gear wise she is really falling behind.

[The Holy Tuna]

Unrelated question, but what happened to Stonewing's flight jacket? I haven't heard it mentioned since Blackjack fount it.

You know, I was thinking about that just the other day. I think, between Tulip's murder, the balefire bomb, dying again, the encounter with the hellhound, and getting thrown into a wall, she kinda forgot to give it to Glory.

Glory really should get that jacket. Just about everyone has a significant item or ability and I don't think Glory wears armor. Gear wise she is really falling behind.

She didn't spec well, so there isn't much she can use effectively. Couple that with Blackjack stealing all the loot and Glory should really be playing on a lower difficulty setting.

[RoboRed]

Random: Is it just me, or has Mech not posted any artwork here is quite some time?

Yes, it certainly has been a while since he last posted something here...

You don't think we finally scared him off, did we?

[Stringtheory]

Random: Is it just me, or has Mech not posted any artwork here is quite some time?

Yes, it certainly has been a while since he last posted something here...

You don't think we finally scared him off, did we?

last I checked he was doing Ask the Slaves with Fuzzy, about Murky, so that's probably eating up all his drawing time

[Sindri]

Random: Is it just me, or has Mech not posted any artwork here is quite some time?

Random Blank. Always worthwhile things to say, that one. Wouldn’t have dared do pony if it wasn’t for him.

...the only thing I remember about Random Blank, beyond the fact that he does ask RedEye, is that he and Sindri argued fairly often...

I miss those arguments...

[imurmanic]

Hey I'm new to the forum and all that, love the story yadda yadda.
Anyways, after seeing this cool piece of artwork:
http://piecee01.deviantart.com/art/Fallout-Equestria-2-The-new-wastelanders-358313641
I got this cool idea for a possible side story or sequel to PH I just
want to get out somewhere on the internet. Now I'm not caught up on PH and idk how
Somber's planning on ending it but that image got me thinking "what if
Blackjack had a kid?" and I remembered BJ also considered it at one
point.

I worked it out and I think I got a feasible setup for a
squeal story. Blackjack, after conquering the Core
and many years of hard work, can possibly become the element of magic
for gardens (since she's a descendant of twilight and she learned to
teleport last chapter I read, her magic potential is just now
revealing itself. I'd want to have her kid become the element of
magic and have the whole story be about that but it doesn't work with the timescale of FoE.)

I'd name the kid Solitaire, keeping with the card game naming of her family. I think
it's really appropriate because in in jewellery solitaire is a single
gemstone set in a ring, so it could have a double meaning as in her kid
is the gem of her life or something like that. I'd also make BJ's kid a
boy so I could use the cool title "FoE: Prodigal Son." Being the kid of
the "legendary" Security people had really high expectations of
Solitaire, gives a lot of possibility for angst/brooding. Also, assuming
BJ's still gonna be around 10+ years later, no one wants to fuck with
Solitaire because of who their mom is and so most people wouldn't want
to even be near 'em because of any possible trouble they could get in
with BJ. This would make him kind of a loner, possibly make rampage his only friend (besides his mom of course), making the name doubbly appropriate because solitaire is a game that's played alone.

The story would take place some point during or after the FoE 10 year
afterword and there still plenty of trouble to be found and the world is
still a violent place. You can take people out of the wasteland, but you
can't take the wasteland out of the people.

Anyways, that's my two bits.

[Moodyman90]

Well that certainly is an interesting idea.

In any case, welcome to the forum and I hope you stick around.

[Meleagridis]

Oh, it gets worse. Doof is slow, sure. He didn't have a chance of figuring out what was going on at the time. But he's had two hundred years to reflect on matters. Every mistake he made, every time he was manipulated, every time a good, clever pony would have taken action, Echo chose not to act, and he never realized there was a choice to be made. All through the clarity of hindsight and centuries of analysis. Maybe he didn't see as much as Echo. More likely he saw a lot more; Echo was a good little soldier but Doof was a prisoner, a test subject, then a weapon of mass destruction, and an imbecile to boot, so why would anyone bother to hide anything from him? And he wouldn't have understood any of it at the time, but now... he probably just wishes he didn't.

Now that you mention it, that one memory orb with Sanguine and Deus was a situation he probably ended up in a lot- overhearing certain things.

This is now on my character interaction wishlist, right after Rampage and Lacunae: Doof shouting down Echo's throat in a 'shit I've seen' shouting match.

Uh. I was under the impression that Deus had been put into the freezer before the Holocaust, and that Sanguine thawed him only recently - a few decades from the start of the story, one century at most.

Did I get it wrong ?

Stasis doesn't stop the brain. So he had all that time to think about it. And a century at most means half of the gap between the present and the bombfall at most, no small timeframe.

I miss those arguments...

Speaking purely as a spectator, I miss most of the arguments. Even the no-nos.

Look here comes the prodigal son, fetching a tall glass of water

A) Howdy!
B) I wouldn't get too excited about anything spinning off from PH quite yet. It probably has quite a few surprises in store. Plus I'm pretty sure that the Author outright stated that Blackjack's virtue isn't magic (or generosity... but don't quote me on that).

Not to mention I think she's going to die.

...Got a little sad there.

[Quotidian]

So I finally got the GECK working...

[Sindri]

I got this cool idea for a possible side story or sequel to PH I just
want to get out somewhere on the internet...

This is of interest. There's a definite probability that Blackjack, Rampage, and/or the Hoof will not exist anymore after Somber is done with them, but if you're not too worried about going AU that isn't a big problem...

You'd have to be careful with it of course; not only is the tragic loner archetype easy to botch, but using characters from another story tends to blow up in your face when fans of the original get to reading it. And as a PH spinoff, your audience would be mostly limited to people who just came away from Somber's work. And I kinda doubt that Blackjack is Element of Magic, even in the unlikely event that she's a Bearer at all, but if you're going AU anyway...

Not to mention I think she's going to die.

...Got a little sad there.

Blackjack's already died. Twice. And her reproductive organs are the only part still in its original condition so far.

[Meleagridis]

Blackjack's already died. Twice. And her reproductive organs are the only part still in its original condition so far.

Would it be more accurate to say I think that, in the future, she may be dead? Or worse?

What are the odds that Blackjack is going to make it out of this whole mess in any condition where she could raise a family?

Rampage and Lacunae doing what?

I... can't really remember exactly. I think it had to do with their wasteland therapist natures. Maybe a bit of gestalt-to-gestalt, too.

[StoneSlinger88]

Assuming BJ survives, I think she's gonna be a cybernetic head-in-a-jar like in Futurama.

[Somber]

Sigh...

I re- re- read 54 and now I want to tweak the end of the Legate fight and have the bullets have some more substantial impact to BJ... thoughts? Or should I just leave well enough alone?

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