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Post by AGurdel Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:40 pm

Mün or Bust!

Jeb would never object to any of Blackjack's plans. I know in which situations Jeb is grinning...
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Post by Kippershy Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:53 pm

I'll do it @ vats
*throws Cao into the vat, face first*


Enjoy!

ALSO
Quote from the chat thread which I think deserves mention here.
Kippershy wrote:I can see this song fitting the final (physical) battle in Project Horizons.
MAYBE against the eater even, but we'll have to see how that one is handled.

Spoiler:
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Post by Quotidian Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:29 pm

Sindri wrote:
Caoimhe wrote:Par for the course here it seems.

Also 1000 posts, woo!
Right, who's in charge of dragging this one into the Vats?

Hey, what do you call a super mutant from Paris?

French Dip.
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Post by Overthepacific Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:36 pm

Quotidian wrote:

Hey, what do you call a super mutant from Paris?

French Dip.

@this entire thread right now
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Post by Kippershy Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:43 pm

Tradition. Once you hit 1,000 posts you hit alicorn status.
We dunk people who hit alicorn status.
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Post by SilentCarto Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:03 pm

Overthepacific wrote:I would like to think they created an impervious party fortress to fend away the bad element and keep in the magical music and dancing.
Or they made a techno fighting arena...Yeah, that'd be cool.
And may I just say,


CD wrote:Can't you guys get Beyond Thunderdome?
Boooo! Boooooooooo! Luna

Overthepacific wrote:What the blueberry fuck did I just read?

Furthermore, what in a twisted iced over hell am I looking at?
He's talking about Kerbal Space Program, a rocketry simulator where you build a space program from the ground up (so to speak) for a race of highly enthusiastic but very, very stupid little guys called Kerbals. The banner, and avatar, are space-suited kerbals excited about being shot into space on a rocket which may or may not have any means of returning them to Kerbin afterwards.
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Post by Overthepacific Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:11 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
Overthepacific wrote:I would like to think they created an impervious party fortress to fend away the bad element and keep in the magical music and dancing.
Or they made a techno fighting arena...Yeah, that'd be cool.
And may I just say,

I am trying to think of a good song to go along with the fight scene. That was definitely on the list.

SilentCarto wrote:
Overthepacific wrote:What the blueberry fuck did I just read?

Furthermore, what in a twisted iced over hell am I looking at?
He's talking about Kerbal Space Program, a rocketry simulator where you build a space program from the ground up (so to speak) for a race of highly enthusiastic but very, very stupid little guys called Kerbals. The banner, and avatar, are space-suited kerbals excited about being shot into space on a rocket which may or may not have any means of returning them to Kerbin afterwards.

Well, now it makes a little more sense,
but the more I try to think about this

the closer my face comes to this:


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Post by Kippershy Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:14 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
Overthepacific wrote:What the blueberry fuck did I just read?

Furthermore, what in a twisted iced over hell am I looking at?
He's talking about Kerbal Space Program, a rocketry simulator where you build a space program from the ground up (so to speak) for a race of highly enthusiastic but very, very stupid little guys called Kerbals. The banner, and avatar, are space-suited kerbals excited about being shot into space on a rocket which may or may not have any means of returning them to Kerbin afterwards.

Not just any kerbal. Jebediah Kerman!
The greatest kerbal to ever live.
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Post by Overthepacific Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:18 pm

Kippershy wrote:

Not just any kerbal. Jebediah Kerman!
The greatest kerbal to ever live.

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Post by Kippershy Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:20 pm

If you want, I'll make a video of it tomorrow.
I'll even name the shuttle the Project Horizons or something.
>Inb4 the design decides to topple over and crash down to the ground in a burning wreck half way through flight while recording/streaming
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Post by Quotidian Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:06 am

So this is a thing.
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Post by StoneSlinger88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:25 am

Quotidian wrote:So this is a thing.

Hot damn, is there one for Skyrim?
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Post by Kippershy Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:06 am

So, I have a request to bring this up here, comes from the /mlp/ board.
Completely reasonable so if I see anyone shitting on the fact it comes from /mlp/, I won't be pleased.

Anon wrote:I have something I want brought up, but don't want to have to make a Cloudsville account.

It could also use some discussion here, I guess, but most people are fed up with PH so...

Wasn't there a bit in Tenpony where BJ finds an enervation ring (pesticide talisman) that doesn't produce any enervation, so the local doc tests it and it starts enervating a little bit once a patient dies...

How's that make any damn sense? Are we supposed to assume that NOBODY, ANYWHERE has died near enervation rings except in Hoofington? (I'm sure the EoS is also a source, but still)



Again, completely reasonable and a very good point. Whatever happened to this? Why was it even brought up at all if (at least so far) there's never been any further mention of it?
I mean, sure, there's been mention of the rings in other places since then, but never has the Tenpony one came back to focus.

Anything, anyone?

I guess Somber could argue its a chekovs blank, but still, I'm not sure of that. I don't see the need to add something like that, especially not to an important location to the original without some kind of use.
Though I suppose it could be a chekovs gun still waiting to go off.
Just seems like an awfully long wait is all.
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Post by Moodyman90 Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:08 am

Oh yeah, that did happen.

Granted it's not really an explanation and more of my way of handwaving it away, but I always went with that Hoofington was a special kind of hell because there was enervation all over the damn place in large patches and pockets.
That said it's not that nobody has died of enervation anywhere else, just that certain conditions need to be met before a ring activates and activated rings are few and far between in the wasteland outside of Hoofington.

No idea what the trigger could be though.
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Post by Snipehamster Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:28 pm

Kippershy wrote:So, I have a request to bring this up here, comes from the /mlp/ board.
Completely reasonable so if I see anyone shitting on the fact it comes from /mlp/, I won't be pleased.

Anon wrote:I have something I want brought up, but don't want to have to make a Cloudsville account.

It could also use some discussion here, I guess, but most people are fed up with PH so...

Wasn't there a bit in Tenpony where BJ finds an enervation ring (pesticide talisman) that doesn't produce any enervation, so the local doc tests it and it starts enervating a little bit once a patient dies...

How's that make any damn sense? Are we supposed to assume that NOBODY, ANYWHERE has died near enervation rings except in Hoofington? (I'm sure the EoS is also a source, but still)



Again, completely reasonable and a very good point. Whatever happened to this? Why was it even brought up at all if (at least so far) there's never been any further mention of it?
I mean, sure, there's been mention of the rings in other places since then, but never has the Tenpony one came back to focus.

Anything, anyone?

I guess Somber could argue its a chekovs blank, but still, I'm not sure of that. I don't see the need to add something like that, especially not to an important location to the original without some kind of use.
Though I suppose it could be a chekovs gun still waiting to go off.
Just seems like an awfully long wait is all.
I believe I can answer this one. All the active rings that BJ has encountered have, one way or another, been hooked up to a source of electricity/whatever magic ponies use to power things. The ring that they found in Tenpony wasn't powered until they hooked it up for their little experiment, after which it apparently started generating enervation once someone died in its proximity.

It would seem, based on the Tenpony ring, Hightower, and Silverstar Sporting Supplies, that the rings are dormant and harmless devices by default. Once energized by a power source, they can begin absorbing nearby souls (one could assume, based on the fact that BJ passes through several rings after her soul gets yoinked just after Hightower) and, in turn, generating enervation fields which grow in strength proportionately to 'electrical' (and/or soul?) input.

As we saw in SSS, cutting power to the ring kills its E-field. The pesticide talismans are designed, manufactured devices. What's worrying is that they could potentially be anywhere (or everywhere!), and the Core is conveniently positioned on top of a near-limitless source of energy.

My hunch is that the Tokomare/EoS, if all the rings were somehow activated, would form a widespread feedback loop. A feedback loop that just happens to melt everyone.
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Post by Kippershy Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:45 pm

Snipehamster wrote:
Kippershy wrote:So, I have a request to bring this up here, comes from the /mlp/ board.
Completely reasonable so if I see anyone shitting on the fact it comes from /mlp/, I won't be pleased.

Anon wrote:I have something I want brought up, but don't want to have to make a Cloudsville account.

It could also use some discussion here, I guess, but most people are fed up with PH so...

Wasn't there a bit in Tenpony where BJ finds an enervation ring (pesticide talisman) that doesn't produce any enervation, so the local doc tests it and it starts enervating a little bit once a patient dies...

How's that make any damn sense? Are we supposed to assume that NOBODY, ANYWHERE has died near enervation rings except in Hoofington? (I'm sure the EoS is also a source, but still)



Again, completely reasonable and a very good point. Whatever happened to this? Why was it even brought up at all if (at least so far) there's never been any further mention of it?
I mean, sure, there's been mention of the rings in other places since then, but never has the Tenpony one came back to focus.

Anything, anyone?

I guess Somber could argue its a chekovs blank, but still, I'm not sure of that. I don't see the need to add something like that, especially not to an important location to the original without some kind of use.
Though I suppose it could be a chekovs gun still waiting to go off.
Just seems like an awfully long wait is all.
I believe I can answer this one. All the active rings that BJ has encountered have, one way or another, been hooked up to a source of electricity/whatever magic ponies use to power things. The ring that they found in Tenpony wasn't powered until they hooked it up for their little experiment, after which it apparently started generating enervation once someone died in its proximity.

It would seem, based on the Tenpony ring, Hightower, and Silverstar Sporting Supplies, that the rings are dormant and harmless devices by default. Once energized by a power source, they can begin absorbing nearby souls (one could assume, based on the fact that BJ passes through several rings after her soul gets yoinked just after Hightower) and, in turn, generating enervation fields which grow in strength proportionately to 'electrical' (and/or soul?) input.

As we saw in SSS, cutting power to the ring kills its E-field.

So in other words, the ring in Tenpony wasn't for some future event, but rather, as a much smaller piece to a puzzle rather than its own puzzle?
To refine my words, it's merely used as a part of a scientific study almost. Taking it on its own leaves it without context, but beside other examples it shows to explain how they work?

Thank you, Snipe. I'll relay this on. You'll be getting even more brownie points with the foe crowd over on 4chan I believe.
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Post by Snipehamster Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:46 pm

Kippershy wrote:So in other words, the ring in Tenpony wasn't for some future event, but rather, as a much smaller piece to a puzzle rather than its own puzzle?
To refine my words, it's merely used as a part of a scientific study almost. Taking it on its own leaves it without context, but beside other examples it shows to explain how they work?

Thank you, Snipe. I'll relay this on. You'll be getting even more brownie points with the foe crowd over on 4chan I believe.
Precisely. Methinks it's a hint to the answer of a bigger question, rather than an important question in itself. I amended my previous post with a few thoughts on the wider implications of the pesticide talismans.

...does 4chan have actual brownies? Cookies or crumpets would be nice, too. x3

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Post by OneMoreDaySK Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:49 pm

On the topic of the rings, anyone ever try to analyzed the bloody thing? Like check composition and if anything was inscribed on the rings? Or did all they do was hook it up to a battery? Is it too much to ask the Twilight Society to check it out, with all their mysterious research labs and such?
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Post by Kippershy Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:59 pm

Snipehamster wrote:
Kippershy wrote:So in other words, the ring in Tenpony wasn't for some future event, but rather, as a much smaller piece to a puzzle rather than its own puzzle?
To refine my words, it's merely used as a part of a scientific study almost. Taking it on its own leaves it without context, but beside other examples it shows to explain how they work?

Thank you, Snipe. I'll relay this on. You'll be getting even more brownie points with the foe crowd over on 4chan I believe.
Precisely. Methinks it's a hint to the answer of a bigger question, rather than an important question in itself. I amended my previous post with a few thoughts on the wider implications of the pesticide talismans.

...does 4chan have actual brownies? Cookies or crumpets would be nice, too. x3

Depends on what you like on your crumpets.

Also, there's always room for actual brownies to be made, so I suppose the answer is... yes! haha.
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Post by Quotidian Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:38 pm

Kippershy wrote:Completely reasonable so if I see anyone shitting on the fact it comes from /mlp/, I won't be pleased.
Poopy poop butt fart.

No, seriously, I'm sort of curious about that as well. One of the things that drew me into PH was all the weird shit in Hoofington BJ kept encountering. Enervation in particular. Here's hoping we get a solid answer at some point, even if BJ isn't bright enough to pick up on it.
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Post by RoboRed Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:37 pm

Derpmind wrote:So 12 minutes and 62 webpages later, I've got the links:
Links:
Oh wow...and that was also shortly before I left the comment containing "Again and Again" after Blackjack "died".

And where I learned that Kipper has fine musical taste and Sindri is an emotionless, unfeeling, cold logic-minded android. Trollestia

@first comments: Mine was just a few days before that, mentioning how I liked my story, and one of the music choices that I made for the latest chapter (32, and it was the last couple movements of the Delta Halo Suite).

Some things never change. Twilight Sparkle

WavemasterRyx wrote:Well... my apologies again, Sindri...

I'll just leave this here and go back to Happyhorn.
Spoiler:
http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/45644437118
*glee* Rainbow

Aonee wrote:Pretty much same with me, Moody. Something about you guys wrecking my tank...
Katarndidit.

Oh yeah, and then there was the shed, and the discussion rooms, and all that other stuff. And the Happyhorn modules. Good times.

Overthepacific wrote:
Well, in light of my first comment, I suppose I'll do it justice whore out my artwork again, considering it has Blackjack and Psalm in it.

Don't freak on me, they were pretty much doodles.:
Very nice. Twilight Sparkle

jacky2734 wrote:Completely random topic, but I just thought of a question.

The Starmetal sword, was it ever stated to be a single-edge or double-edge sword?

I've always pictured it like a European-style straightsword with two sharpened sides, but most of the fanart I've seen of it depicts it as a single-edged curved blade.
I always thought of it as a double-edged sword. Like a claymore.

Downloaded Skill wrote:I hope the Daft Ponies come back. I can see it already. BJ and the team break into Shadowbolt tower in the middle of an energetic techno rave. The Enclave can provide their own lasers!
Never really gave them a second thought after that chapter, but that would totally be cool.

Also, who else totally listened to "Derezzed" during that battle? Sweetie Belle

SilentCarto wrote:
Overthepacific wrote:I would like to think they created an impervious party fortress to fend away the bad element and keep in the magical music and dancing.
Or they made a techno fighting arena...Yeah, that'd be cool.
And may I just say,

This guy.

Quotidian wrote:
Kippershy wrote:Completely reasonable so if I see anyone shitting on the fact it comes from /mlp/, I won't be pleased.
Poopy poop butt fart.

No, seriously, I'm sort of curious about that as well. One of the things that drew me into PH was all the weird shit in Hoofington BJ kept encountering. Enervation in particular. Here's hoping we get a solid answer at some point, even if BJ isn't bright enough to pick up on it.
I think they did analyze it at some point, but I'm not gonna swear to it.
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Post by Sindri Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:51 pm

RoboRed wrote:And where I learned that Kipper has fine musical taste and Sindri is an emotionless, unfeeling, cold logic-minded android. Trollestia
Hey, I feel plenty! Like... schadenfreude! Got plenty of that! Crazy
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Post by SilentCarto Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:23 pm

Kippershy wrote:Again, completely reasonable and a very good point. Whatever happened to this? Why was it even brought up at all if (at least so far) there's never been any further mention of it?
I mean, sure, there's been mention of the rings in other places since then, but never has the Tenpony one came back to focus.

Anything, anyone?

I guess Somber could argue its a chekovs blank, but still, I'm not sure of that. I don't see the need to add something like that, especially not to an important location to the original without some kind of use.
Though I suppose it could be a chekovs gun still waiting to go off.
Just seems like an awfully long wait is all.
The ring didn't become a permanent Enervation source because of one death -- it just emitted a short burst of Enervation. Enough to visibly affect a potion if you were looking for it, and to make a noticible "scream", but that's all. Presumably, that means that Ms. Ivy's soul got trapped by the EoS's soul net and the ring resonated for a moment.

I think what Snipe said about it being a sign of a larger puzzle is correct. That particular event let us see how widespread the rings are, and that there's a range-dropoff effect even when the rings are powered up. However, that also means that any amplification of the EoS's normal Enervation field would be echoed and multiplied across Equestria. I now direct your attention to Chapter 44:
I trotted towards the flake’s impact dent and looked at the smoking bit of metal. No, not just smoking. It was melting away before my eyes, shrinking as it made a long, low screaming noise.
Moonstone plus Starmetal equals a short-lived Enervation pulse. Dropping a fuckton of Moonstone on the Eater sounds like an even worse idea now, doesn't it? It would be catastrophic not just for Hoofington, but the entire Equestrian Wasteland.

I expect that we're about to find out a whole lot more about Enervation, as soon as BJ goes to Roseluck Agrifarms to pay off Triage. That will probably happen shortly after the Goddess dies, because then BJ will regain what she's learned about the rings so far, which should make delving the Agrifarms a much higher priority.

RoboRed wrote:Also, who else totally listened to "Derezzed" during that battle? Sweetie Belle

This guy.
Yeah, I kicked in "End of Line" as soon as BJ walked in, then switched to Derezzed-on-repeat for the duration of the fight. Fluttershy

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♪ SCHAAAAAdenfreude! Making me feel glad that I'm not you! ♪
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Post by Meleagridis Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:45 pm

Kippershy wrote:So, I have a request to bring this up here, comes from the /mlp/ board.
Completely reasonable so if I see anyone shitting on the fact it comes from /mlp/, I won't be pleased.

Spoiler:

The time has come for his Chorus to reach even the most unworthy ears. Will will spread his note through the wasteland, beyond the wasteland. They will all join the Choir at their own speed, but sooner or later all will be as one. She may kill more messengers as she did at the tower, but there is no way to stop them all. The Choir is our salvation. The Choir is all-consuming. It is the only way, and It is inevitable!

(I don't think the rings were there before. It's gametime, so culties are putting them everywhere. Least that's the impression I got.)
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Post by WavemasterRyx Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:10 am

So, today was somewhat productive. The Boo tumblr has been updated with 2 new posts.

http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45883643027 for a little silly P-21 and
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45891987717 for adorable cake nomming.
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Post by SilentCarto Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:15 am

Meleagridis wrote:I don't think the rings were there before. It's gametime, so culties are putting them everywhere. Least that's the impression I got.
It was in a Roseluck Agrifarms pest control box, though, just like the one in Silverstar. The way I figure it, before the war, a very weak Enervation field would kill bugs but wouldn't even bother a healthy pre-war pony. Now, though, the EoS is awake, so the Enervation is stronger, and most wasteland ponies just aren't as robust as ones raised on good food and clean water, so the Enervation has a more severe effect on them. (Fridge logic -- I guess that's why most protagonists are Stable ponies. They're just plain healthier!)
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Post by SilentCarto Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:17 am

WavemasterRyx wrote:So, today was somewhat productive. The Boo tumblr has been updated with 2 new posts.

http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45883643027 for a little silly P-21 and
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45891987717 for adorable cake nomming.
The P-21 one makes me giggle so much. I love his cheerfully blank expression as he deletes ALL the emails.
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Post by Ketchup Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:22 am

SilentCarto wrote:
WavemasterRyx wrote:So, today was somewhat productive. The Boo tumblr has been updated with 2 new posts.

http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45883643027 for a little silly P-21 and
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45891987717 for adorable cake nomming.
The P-21 one makes me giggle so much. I love his cheerfully blank expression as he deletes ALL the emails.
Indeed, much giggling was done at the sight of that. The second one is adorable as your Boo usually is.
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Post by WavemasterRyx Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:14 am

SilentCarto wrote:The P-21 one makes me giggle so much. I love his cheerfully blank expression as he deletes ALL the emails.
Ketchup wrote:Indeed, much giggling was done at the sight of that. The second one is adorable as your Boo usually is.
*smiles* Well I'm glad I could make you both giggle, and I'm glad you like how Boo turned out as well.
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Post by O. Hinds Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:30 am

WavemasterRyx wrote:So, today was somewhat productive. The Boo tumblr has been updated with 2 new posts.

http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45883643027 for a little silly P-21 and
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/45891987717 for adorable cake nomming.
I don't have much to say about the second one; it's cute, but that's nothing unusual for you.
The first one, though: Hahahahee! I particularly like the expression on his face.
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