Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[O. Hinds]

wc output:

Should be approximately 1.11 million words.

Naller is reporting 1091955, though, and I think that that's a bit higher than the true wordcount due to some other stuff being included (assuming that the counting software is working). I'm not sure how to account for the discrepancy, but it's still quite a lot of words.

[AGurdel]

After stripping every character that's not a letter or whitespace, wc is reporting a word count of 1108654.

Word counts for chaper 42:
wc: 30073
wc (after stripping): 30047
Notepad++: 30596
gedit: 30946
OO-Writer: 30727

The relative difference between OO and wc is greater than the difference between the Naller count and my wc count.

My input files are the text files you can download from google docs and the notes after the footnotes are probably a large portion of the difference. I could run wc against the "Naller document", if you tell me where I can find it.

[O. Hinds]

https://nallar.me/fics/

[AGurdel]

I removed the parts that belong to the index page and get:

wc: 1114494
OpenOffice Writer: 1143081
wordcounter.net: 1146107
wordcountonline.net: 1150687
count(" "): 1089975

I repeated the last one with the whole Nallar document and got 1091787. That's not the reported 1091955, but it's close enough to say, that that count is based on the number of spaces in the document.

I would go with the word count of wc, which after all does nothing except counting lines, words and characters. Those GNU tools are usually quite good.

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Couldn't stop playing with Python...

Code:


>>> nallarfile.count(" ") + nallarfile.count("'")
1091955


By that definition "don't " is two words, but "don’t " is one. If you also count the "’", you get 1125504 "words".

[Somber]

sigh... I am such an idiot... re- re visions to 54 fights.... and adding like 3 pages... ugh....

[Guest]

Try not to stress out too much over this stuff, Somber; perfectionism never reaches its goal. But I do look forward to reading the revisions. :) Good luck!

[OneMoreDaySK]

@Somber
Silly Somber, are you contacting and coordinating with your editors for this? Methinks sometimes you might want to save ideas for later chapters, or are trying too hard to revise. Sometimes you just have to let it be. Story I liked, first edition was based on a drunken rant. Then they're doing a rewrite and it lost its charm.

[Exodus Hero]

sigh... I am such an idiot... re- re visions to 54 fights.... and adding like 3 pages... ugh....

Man, I don't get why your re- revising it. Hell, I like the first one, but I'd be a liar if I said I'm not looking forward to reading more pages of the story. Also, stop being so down on yourself man, you're your own worst enemy when you talk down to yourself like that. Cheer up, you are blessed with many friends on this thread. Try and stay happy, even when times are dark. :)

[O. Hinds]

Okay, the revision is in! This one is in one large block, so you may find it below for your convenience.

Spoiler:

[Guest]

@Revision
That was a damn fine read.

[Ketchup]

Okay, the revision is in! This one is in one large block, so you may find it below for your convenience.

Spoiler:

I don't think the word 'ponies' is what is supposed to be there.

I like this revision, it was rather fun to read.

[O. Hinds]

I don't think the word 'ponies' is what is supposed to be there.

I like this revision, it was rather fun to read.

Ah, thank you.

[Icy Shake]

Very nice.

Spoiler:

Oh, and I'm late on this, but Somber, I wish you the best of luck finding work after the school year ends. I'm very sorry to hear that news.

[O. Hinds]

Very nice.

Spoiler:

Oh, and I'm late on this, but Somber, I wish you the best of luck finding work after the school year ends. I'm very sorry to hear that news.

Ah, thank you.

[Somber]

54 was an unfortunate mess, particularly with the legate. I also wrote 15p the day we were brushing, which didn't help. I like suggestions were I can actually do something about them.

Huge hugs to the editorial team though. They put in time even for tweaking a chapter.

[OneMoreDaySK]

@Revision
More realistic fight there, but and we don't get to figure out what happened with Lancer, unless we get to use the old revisions as basis for what happened. So I guess it will hold if Lancer reappears with one eye.

[FeatherDust]

No need to disregard them, I think; we've got two practically-immortals (possibly three, if this other universe gets Twilicorn) in charge of things.

You're assuming Twilicorn is in fact immortal. I'm not sure that's the case. Cadence appears to have aged at a normal rate from teen to adult and had no apparent misgivings about marrying Shining.

Twilicorn is just non-canon for FOE. That was the first event in the show that simply can't be explained by any method. There's too much Unicorn!Twilight stuff written already for FOE. That was the point of BJ's musings about the thread of fate; she wonders if there's another universe out there where fate was more kind, which would be the Alicorn!Twilight continuity the show is following.

Second: Twilicorn is almost certainly immortal*, at least in terms of author intent -- Faust said she originally intended Twilight to ultimately become Celestia's successor, which she obviously couldn't be if her life were shorter than Celly's. Things have changed a bit since then in the writing process, but I think the clear implication is that Twilight is the same sort of being that C&L are.

* Or possibly quasi-immortal, with a lifespan measured in millennia; it may be that this is why Celestia needed a replacement; she's coming to the end of her vast but finite lifespan.

[Kippershy]

With regards from 4chan about the latest revision:



Sorry, but that last revision? I haven't read it first hand, but I read the overview from someone else and... I don't even know what to think any more.
I'll not speak any more on this, don't worry, but yeah.
Really finding it hard to understand why all that needed to be put in.

[Guest]

It just goes to show, you can't please everyone and shouldn't try. And when it's a choice between pleasing people who are reading your story 'cos they like it and 4Chan (who also happen to be reading it to hate it), the choice is clear.

[SilentCarto]

Okay, the revision is in! This one is in one large block, so you may find it below for your convenience.

Thanks!

Ch. 54 Re-revisions:

Edits:

[Valikdu]

With regards from 4chan

We don't need to hear this crap.
More importantly, Somber doesn't need to hear this crap.

Stop dragging crap from 4chan here.

[SilentCarto]

With regards from 4chan

We don't need to hear this crap.
More importantly, Somber doesn't need to hear this crap.

Stop dragging crap from 4chan here.

Hear hear. If you haven't read it, I will personally thank you to shut your mouth about things you know nothing about. I really doubt there's anything in the world that you won't hear sucks from someone on 4chan. I mean, really. If we gave a flying feather what 4chan thought, we would in fact be on 4chan finding out.

Consider my jimmies rustled.

[Overthepacific]

Lol, I love trailer park boys.

But another revision? Right as I get back too.
Well, I'll get on that then.

[O. Hinds]

Okay, the revision is in! This one is in one large block, so you may find it below for your convenience.

Thanks!

Ch. 54 Re-revisions:

Edits:

Ah, thank you as always. There are two things that I've not changed, though:

Spoiler:

[Kippershy]

It just goes to show, you can't please everyone and shouldn't try. And when it's a choice between pleasing people who are reading your story 'cos they like it and 4Chan (who also happen to be reading it to hate it), the choice is clear.

I know I said I wouldn't, but...
I was liking it. Now I'm not sure what to think at all...
Maybe it's me and how I've been feeling lately, but it's getting harder and harder to enjoy PH as of late.

[Meleagridis]

Have you read the change yourself yet?

[Overthepacific]

Well, I reread the legate scene anyway, since that seems to be the hotspot with the revision.

Spoiler:

[Guest]

@Kipper
One way or another (or maybe both), it's probably the echo chamber effect. I'd like to think we're more reasonable over here, as well as more accountable for our statements, though.

[Kippershy]

Have you read the change yourself yet?

I skimmed it. I don't have it in me to give it a proper read because I was told what happens, confirmed key moments to find out if the post was bullshitting me or not and realised it wasn't.
I haven't got it in me to give it a proper read.

I suppose I should at some point, but not tonight. I should really be asleep right now, but the Flutterrape threads need me.

[Guest]

Have you read the change yourself yet?

I skimmed it. I don't have it in me to give it a proper read because I was told what happens, confirmed key moments to find out if the post was bullshitting me or not and realised it wasn't.
I haven't got it in me to give it a proper read.

I suppose I should at some point, but not tonight. I should really be asleep right now, but the Flutterrape threads need me.

Seriously, Kipper - stop letting people ruin things for you. There are multiple ways to read something, and most of those guys are not reading it for any reason except to hate it at this point, whether or not they are doing so intentionally. The things they take away will shape how you read it, inevitably.

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