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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
- Chapter Sixty Nine Overall Thoughts:
- Chapter sixty nine is dominated by drama. To me, its defining feature is the interaction between Blackjack, Glory, and P-21. This aspect begins where the cliffhanger from sixty eight left off: Blackjack is back at Star House, Glory and the rest just walked in, and Glory is livid, believing Blackjack to be another impostor. We're moved past this stage by three things: Blackjack identifying herself as Go Fish, Boo believing Blackjack was the real thing, and Glory saying that Cognitum knew things and even fought like her, but BJ countering by asking if she "whined and angst[ed]" about killing the Brood (obviously, Cognitum did not). Oh, and responding to the question "who's Tenebra" by going into an enthusiastic little answer that culminated in proposing a fiveway.
So, that behind, she catches them up on what's been going on, and after it's just her, P-21, and Glory left, she drops the last bit: the news that she's pregnant (old body, not new). P-21 takes the news pretty well, including that he's (probably) the father. However, Glory does not, and this is exacerbated, I think, by the way that Blackjack and P-21 go in in this conversation; the whole way through, it seems to be framed as their baby, not theirs along with Glory's. I don't think it was intentional on their part (and I'm not sure that makes it better), or if treating it as an event Glory was fully sharing in from the start would have changed the way things went, but it does strike me as not helping.
Blackjack picks up on this, and asks what's wrong; Glory responds by asking first if Blackjack loves her (and of course she does), and then why. Blackjack fumbles for a bit before getting to "I just do!" But that's not enough for Glory. She loved Blackjack for her strength, for protecting her; but in the end, Blackjack, like her parents, abandoned her and hurt herself along the way. That's not what Glory needs, which is someone who needs her just as much, and not just for emotional support but there with her, who won't try to protect her by leaving her behind. And she knows that Blackjack would try to be what she needed, but says that Blackjack wouldn't be able to put her first, bringing up a point from the talk between Blackjack and P-21, right at the end before Glory had come to her realization and tried to leave:
Glory said that Blackjack "almost didn't put [her] own child first," and That... scares me. I can’t imagine the kind of mare who can do that. I wonder if I could ever do what you do so easily...” Now, part of this may be that I'm strongly inclined to take Blackjack's side in most things, but I believe that Glory was seeing something different there than I was. To start, none of that seemed "easy" to me. Leaving that aside, and attempting to abstract away from what we know about Blackjack's feelings regarding the baby from following her since she found out, simply knowing her in general and paying attention to what she was saying and how she was saying it strongly suggests to me that she really, really didn't want to go down that path. The problem is that she has a severe guilt complex and a shocking disregard for her own worth, which spills over in this case because keeping her baby is something she wants. This conversation is only happening because as much as she is asking for permission to try to save her baby, she's begging for forgiveness for wanting even that for herself. (Also, in fairness, she is putting the lives of thousands or millions on the line by trying to get it back rather than prioritizing Cognitum above all else. Feeling some conflict there is pretty appropriate.) And that's a dynamic I'd have expected Glory to pick up on better, even if she can't accept it.“I just need to know, P-21, should I even try to get my baby back?”
P-21’s eyes shot wide as he gaped at me. “What… why… how…” he stammered, then composed himself with a sharp breath. “How could you ask me that?”
“Because as far as I’m concerned, it’s your baby too. And putting a bullet through my old body’s head is easier than trying to get my unborn baby out of it.” I closed my eyes, tears streaking my cheeks as my mind struggled with the horrifying choice before me. It stuck in my throat, and finally I sobbed. “I’ve given up so much. What’s a little more?”
“No!” he said sharply, and I flinched. He sighed, covering my hooves in his. “No, Blackjack. You’re not giving that up. What’s the point to living if you lose that?”
“The world’s more important than me and my baby,” I said hollowly. “Aren’t I being selfish taking the risk?”
At any rate, Glory says they're through romantically, but when Blackjack protests that she does need her, Glory says that she'll still be there, but as a friend. Because beyond the rest she believes that Blackjack and P-21 have a connection that Glory could never have with her (it seemed to me that it wasn't exactly the baby itself so much as the baby prompting her to recognize and acknowledge the deep ties P-21 and Blackjack had due to their shared experiences prior to the last several months), and has decided that means she had to go. Now, I think that this is in one (two, if you count physically producing a child together) sense in which that is correct, but it's also missing a parallel point. Yes, Blackjack and P-21, through their shared background and experiences (which are in some ways more aligned even since they left the stable than Blackjack's were with Glory's), they fit together like matching pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. But likewise, I'm not sure Blackjack and P-21 would ever have had what Glory and Blackjack did. Blackjack doesn't have the same flame of passion and longing for P-21 that she does for Glory. She hasn't been thinking "I need to get back to P-21 . . . and Glory and, and, and . . . " for the last few months, but "I need to get back to Glory . . . " When asked if she loved Glory, Blackjack said “Of course I do,” immediately. When asked the same about P-21, it doesn't have quite the same feel:
(Similarly, when prompted on the subject by Glory, P-21 says “I don’t know if Blackjack even loves me. We had sex. Love... is different with Blackjack.” On his own feeling, he said to Blackjack:“Love...” I sighed and then made a face. “I hate that word. Looooove. Wuv. We need more words for it. Like the kind of love when you really like a person, and the kind of love when you feel like you’d die without them.” I slid sideways and rest my head on his shoulder. “I don’t know anymore. I was in love with Glory... but now I don’t know what I had with her. I like you a lot, P-21. And losing you... the idea just hurts. Is that love?”
Long story short, I think that Glory is downplaying the fact that BJ/Glory and BJ/P-21 were primarily operating on somewhat different facets of love, or at least a different intensity. And to an extent that's fair; if Glory wasn't getting what she needed, she shouldn't stick with it indefinitely, and anything she needs to say to work it out for herself will have to do. But this does in some ways seem like jealousy over the connection a romantic partner has with their best friend or sibling. However, a part of it is also that Glory just isn't okay with sharing Blackjack sexually, and isn't going to pretend that she is. Good for her for making that stand. That sort of thing is a meaningful point of change for her from, say, the passive-aggressive fuming over Caprice from before she and Blackjack were even an item.“Yes, I do [love you],” he said simply, whacking my emotions across the knee with a baton. “While you were gone. Even before you left, I think, a little.” He lifted his head and smiled at me. “You’re not the mare who lived in 99 anymore, Blackjack. You’re... different. Better. You know things and you’ve been through things. So... yeah. I really think I do.” He swallowed hard and then asked, “Do you feel the same?”
Not that that was everything, since she had already written Blackjack, in the form of Cognitum, off, believing Cognitum had been the real thing but changed either directly or through experience in the Core over the last few months into something terrible, and someone who had no love for her. Added to this was an impostor earlier on (before Cognitum), who it took them days to figure out wasn't the real deal and with whom Glory had sex before that was determined. It was a big deal for her, making her feel that she had cheated on Blackjack with a "cheap fake." Blackjack didn't see it that way, though I wonder if things might have turned out differently if she had responded with jealousy instead of blanket compassion, forgiveness, and frankly indifference. But all of this had worked to lower the threshold for the big break that happened on the pregnancy announcement an follow-up.
Okay, I think I need to leave that behind. So, between parts of that, the rest of the chapter started to creep in a bit. First P-21 hit Blackjack's reset button with a couple hours of mind-blowing sex. Then the two ran into Littlepip's crew, Whisper, and Goldenblood on their way to clean up, and are told that the big conference at Blueblood Manor is getting ready to start, so they should head over. There are a couple beats on the way, including talking a bit with Calamity and Velvet about love and what happened. But my favorite was seeing Vanity's memorial at the manor, erected by Harpica and the ghoul foals under her care. It was just something I found touching, a gesture from one of my favorite background characters to one of my favorite Marauders, one connecting past and present and future in a symbol of kindness, decency, and loyalty.
At this point they move along to see the gathering, and Blackjack has an anxiety attack over the number of people who have shown up. They decide to take a break for a bit so she can recover, and Blackjack goes to have a talk with Deus, since it seems he's been having some troubles lately, being unable to drive straight since leaving the Society. She magically enters his mind, which is something of an industrial hellscape where he's encased in a mass of gears grinding and tearing at him. Whenever Blackjack touches one, she experiences words conveying an idea in Deus's mind, like the general response towards him (‘No good rapist. Fucking rapist. Rapist scum. Rapist asshole. Deserves to die. Deserves to suffer. Just put a bullet in his head.’) or his mother disowning him (‘Not my boy. Not my child. My son’d never do this.’) following his assault of Twist. Blackjack removes each while thinking of a relevant response, but which sometimes seem pretty weak to have served as a means of actually addressing the issues. "Rapists fucked up and it was easy to say that all of them were scum, but nopony deserved this," was fine for the first, for example, but "Well, I’d done some things my mom would be ashamed of too" didn't strike me as sufficient, and as a result it really did feel like Blackjack was getting through these mental representations by force of will (which was the narration's explanation) rather than making an actual emotional connection that worked to free him of them. The biggest exception, which crucially was also the last and largest case, was:
What follows is first Blackjack in her role as the forgiver, the granter of second chances, and in particular reiterating that she doesn't want anyone to suffer like he was, even if they are "scum" (his word, not hers).I seized a gear and was instantly hit by sensations of all the mares he’d violated. I could feel him going inside them. I nearly cut the connection then and there, but I was here to help him. Then, after several seconds I realized something... he wasn’t getting off. It was as if he was just beating them up inside with his cock. I couldn’t forgive that... but I could understand why he had done it. He’d deserved punishment, but not this. A little empathy would have gone a long way towards helping Doof be a better pony.
Suddenly the machinery ripping into him shivered and began to come apart. Massive beams and girders began to collapse all around him as the crushed pony within forced his way free. I backed off as he burst cables and bent steel. Finally, with a clanging clamor of an ironworks being dropped, his head burst free, and he screamed a single word that echoed across that plain of carnage.
Not ‘Cunt’.
‘Why?’
But it moves on to Rampage, and a scene where she attacked Cognitum and was disintigrated. Deus moved to charge her, but was held back by a regenerated filly Rampage telling him to stop. Cognitum then remarks about how Rampage needs her in order to die, and she might even grant it . . . in a couple of centuries. So, not great handling of underling morale, there.
So, having established Rampage is in trouble and that he cares about her, Blackjack asks Deus why. It's because she is his daughter. He saw a picture of her once in his old life, and though the stripes are new, he'd recognize her anywhere. But he's never been able to tell her, lacking proof, and couldn't do much about it in any case since you can't do soft in the Wasteland or as a Reaper. The last thing before Blackjack leaves, apart from some pleasantries, is this, which I think is an emblematic example of what Blackjack's core character is, especially the last paragraph:Can you promise me... can you promise to help her?”
“I don’t need to. I will help her. She’s my friend,” I said firmly. “I won’t give up on her just because she screwed up.”
“Even though she stabbed you in the back?” Deus asked with a small smile. “I don’t know how you do it.”
“I’m really... really... really stupid,” I said with a hapless grin. “I want my friends back, and I want everypony okay. And yeah, I know it’s immature and naive and... I just want it that way. Call me an idiot.”
Jumping over some Blackjack/Glory/P-21 stuff covered already, we now head with Blackjack, P-21, and Big Daddy to the war council. Along the way, Blackjack suggests a shortcut which puts her on the stage in front of the hundreds gathered from among the factions of the Hoof before either of them can stop her.
She's called a fake immediately after starting to make a greeting, and protests that she really is who she says she is, going into what she's done and what she believes in, before saying that she would like to prove herself any way she can. Triage steps in with Boo, offering a test: blanks and Flux clones, the latter of which Blackjack claims to be, are immune to taint. This is demonstrated on Boo and contrasted with a radroach, which is rapidly mutated before Triage vaporizes it. Blackjack is exposed to some, to no effect (she thinks it feels nice, in fact); some heckling gets her to drink most of a Sparkle-Cola bottle full. (It's described in a way that would be conventionally disgusting, but of course she likes it.) She belches up a cloud of the stuff, which comes into contact with a bunch of statues which in turn transform from depicting unicorns to Discord. Some guy still thinks it's fake, and swallows the rest. It doesn't end well for him, but everyone is pretty sure Blackjack is Security.
Big Daddy, Finders Keepers, Storm Chaser, Grace, and Stronghoof all make statements of confidence in her, representing the major factions of the Hoof and the six friends who had come before and split up (Storm Chaser taking the place of Dawn for Thunderhead/the Enclave, Grace taking Awesome's, Stronghoof replacing Crunchy Carrots, and of course Triage for Silver Stripe). At this point, Blackjack once again is given the chance to take the stage, and completes what she had started, which I'll just quote in full.“I am Blackjack, also the pony known as Security. We are all here because this place... this horrible, dangerous place, is our home. It’s a home that is under attack by enemies seeking to either control us or destroy us.” . . .
“All of you know me. For six months, I’ve travelled all over the Hoof. Some of you know me personally, others through reputation. A few of you might have even fought against me. I’m that idiotic pony who always tries to do better. Who tries to give second chances. Who refuses to be an executioner. Stupid, I know. But stupid that doesn't stay down tends to stand out.
“Now, some of you have seen another me that came out of the Core talking about unity. That everypony must work together and follow her lead. Has Security ever done that? Have I ever stood before any group and told them that they had to do what I say or die? No! ...Well... not if you don’t count slavers. But otherwise...” . . . “Anyway! That is not what I believe. If anyone is to stand with me, I want them to do it of their own free will. Because together, we are stronger than any of us alone.”
. . . “I know it’s a hard thing to believe. It’s an even harder thing to prove. All I ask is the opportunity to do so. Because I am Blackjack, and that other over-cyberized tyrant is the impostor. And if there is some way I can convince you, I’ll do it.”
[Test and testimonials break here]
“This isn’t an easy place to live. In fact, I’m sure all of you have, at least once, thought how much it sucks to live here. But the Hoof is our home, and that doesn’t change no matter how hard it gets. We might all be different. Different people. Different values. Different dreams. But to all of us, this place is home, and all of us are family.” . . . “And whether you love your family or not, you stand by them no matter what! So that together, we all become stronger. So that together we rise up, with no one being left behind. Together we rise! Hoofington rises!”
Looking at the two sections separately, the first part is a lot weaker. She's uncertain, and what's more, forced off topic by the issue of whether she is Blackjack, or Cognitum is. The wavering over whether she told people to do as she said or die wasn't great, and the self-deprecation I'm not sure about. However, it established the themes she was going to build on: Hoofington as their home, unity, shared experience. Really, though, I don't think even the last paragraph, after she'd hit her stride, made for as good rhetoric as Goldenblood's Hoofington rises speech. The simple fact is his was more concrete, detailing a specific set of events being responded to and what he wanted. He did more to throw raw meat to the crowd, and had a definite target, where Blackjack was nebulous in what she wanted out of the people and even when she did establish what she was responding to, it was the vague "enemies seeking to either control us or destroy us." It's just not doing the job the same way. But it wasn't just Blackjack making the speech; not really. The endorsements (except really from Triage) provided a lot of the content. They were also structured in an escalation from one speaker to the next, culminating, naturally, with Stronghoof, who has to be shut down by Triage. It's from them that we get points about Cognitum seeing all others as her servants, the losses at Riverside when Cognitum lasered it, and possibly an implication that Cognitum sought to conquer them all and bring war (buried in Storm Chaser's testimony as an unstated contrast to how Blackjack did not seek to conquer, but only to stop the fighting and save as many lives as possible).
Now, after some applause, we get to the war council. Basically, they need to accomplish a few things. Disrupt the Brood as much as possible, which requires jamming their communications (Rainbow and some of the pegasi) and taking out the three Trees of Life they have in bunkers around Hoofington (the Reapers, the Zodiacs, and Team Imaginary Friends (Xanthe's group) each volunteer to take one). Blackjack wants to let Lancer get in touch with the rest of the Remnant rather than just attack them as they work support for the Brood, since they're victims too. Then they'll need to get as many people to defensible positions as possible. And they'll need to stop Cognitum from launching to the moon and get Blackjack there herself, which will take a group at the Luna Space Center. An extra concern there is the pair of Raptors Blizzard and Sirocco, led by the Captains Icyhot. The plan basically in place, they just need someone in charge to coordinate things. Big Daddy, Stronghoof, and Storm Chaser each feel they should be in charge, and to shut them down and get a consensus Windclop says that Blackjack should be. She can't, of course, needing to stop Horizons. So she nominates Goldenblood. This doesn't go over too well with Rainbow Dash, but Blackjack makes her case, sets the parameters that he's supposed to keep as many people alive as possible and not show any favoritism. She gets everyone on board with him taking the reins as someone who's handled coordinating disparate parties before, and him to agree that he can get through the battle without stabbing anyone in the back.
- Chapter Sixty Nine Editing:
- I can’t...” she shoved me and the chair right
should have second space after quotation and capitalize "she"
“Ish you! Ish weally weally
should have second space after exclamation point
Again–" P-21 started evenly.
non-directional quotation marks
"Blackjack!"
non-directional quotation marks
"Exactly. Now, why don't we give
non-directional quotation marks, only one space after period
Boo, for her part, was building a tower of snack cakes, singing “Snack cake shtack-up, shnack cake shtack-uuuuuup!”
comma after "singing"
So please stop with the weird surfacer hangups about sex, because it’s really weird.
Is "surfacer" the right word there? I think that was more used by the Enclave to describe people on the ground than people in the stables to describe the people outside.
the uterine wall, and then…” she shook her head.
should have second space after quotation and capitalize "she"
She sniffed and leaned up, kissing my cheek softly and then pushed my hooves off her shoulders.
comma after "softly"
Surfacer ponies... who could figure them out?
again, this is kind of weird, since this and the other case in the chapter were almost the only time that it wasn't explictily as a contrast to the Enclave or pegasi, and the one other time ("“You need to think like a surfacer here, Blackjack, not a stable pony or cloud dweller,” Rampage replied." from 61) might work better as "Wastelander". Oh, and Blackjack has specifically identified herself as a surfacer before, and was probably the person most often called "surfacer"
‘Not the most focused pony in the wasteland, are you, Blackjack?’ I thought to myself.
She sighed as we climbed up the hill towards Blueblood Manor. Or what remained of it.
Should that be "I sighed"? I'm not seeing anything prompting Velvet to sigh, and it would make sense for Blackjack, and Velvet hasn't been brought up for a while, and in the interim Glory has been the one referred to with "she" and "her"
Otherwise, maybe "Velvet sighed"?
Somehow I started to actually take breaths rather than making choking noises.
should that be "rather than make"?
“Hey big guy. It’s me.
comma after "Hey"
“You too, Doof,” I answered, then cut the connection. I opened my eyes and sighed. Well, as much of a screwup as I was, I could at least still help somepony a little. I started to make my way back towards the hatch when I heard P-21 say sharply outside, “No. You need to go somewhere else right now, Glory.”
Suggest a paragraph break after one of the first two sentences. Really should have one somewhere, since right now you have two speakers in the same paragraph.
Stupid, I know. But stupid that doesn't stay down tends to stand out.
is "stupid that doesn't stay down" in a lighter color than the rest?
stand with me, I want them to do it of their own free will. Because
is "I want them to do it of their own free will." in a lighter color than the rest?
- Other Editing:
- 12:
looking down. The rain splashed
only one space after period
And then everypony (except me) began to sing.
do without parentheses?
I do not care how many times you appeal to ‘the greater war effort’, miss Ebony.
"miss" should be capitalized
“Oh… oh ho!” Sekashi’s eyes lit up as her lips curled in a wide grin. “A he is he? Perhaps you would better suited to make him smile then? A foal I have already.”
“You! I… you are out of your perverted striped mind!” I snorted, shifting back and forth awkwardly. “He’s a priest. I’m sure he’s taken vows or… or… something!”
“What value in a vow that is never tested? Or is there another buck you have your heart on? Perhaps some blue pony?” She arched a brow. This was ridiculous! I needed to get my stuff and get going, not answer questions about my… that! Besides I… he was… ugh… I didn’t want to think about it.
“P-21 is my friend. He’s smart and focused and…”
some of this feels off. why would that fluster Blackjack to begin with? "perverted," maybe, given the assumption of a vow of chastity, but that assumption is one she'd likely not make unless Hymnal from 99 had one, and I'm not sure how well that would fit. Also, might run more to kinky than perverted from Blackjack's perspective.
from "ridiculous" on I've come around to believing it works after thinking about the whole context, but even that is a little muddied by her casual attitude about sex with Daisy
I was keeping my eyes up and looked for any threats on my E.F.S.
"looking" to match tense of "(was) keeping"
last glorious notes and DJ Pon3 gave a long soft sigh.
comma after "long"?
jewel mine would convince someponies to come to their senses about hunting
don't know, it's in-context, but "someponies" seems awkward for me even in dialog. eh
I heard a snuffling in the recording. “She got our
only one space after period
And finally, I have my sentry drones ready to finish you off if you somehow get past the mines,” she finished, then broke into hysterical laughter,
I don't think "finished" is a good choice here, since it's applying to that entire paragraph of speech
I blinked, then, in the thunderous silence (if you didn’t count the ringing in my ears) left in the wake of the world exploding, and carefully felt around with a hoof to be sure that my face was still attached;
delete the "and", or move it to before the "then"
MID? How could she? Well… probably pretty easily.
weird both for the possessiveness and the fact that at least in the new chapter 1 BJ had walked in on her during a breeding session and seemed more frustrated that she was distracted when important things had to happen, without really a twinge of this
I guessed that over ten years P-21 had really got around.
I think you normally use "had gotten", not "had got"
If a mare died without producing a replacement (usually because of an accident... or, well, suicide did happen occasionally, but the perpetrators were even more thoroughly forgotten than the normal 99 dead), then the Overmare would allow an extra mare to be bred.
earlier: No mare in Stable 99 would ever kill herself and deprive the stable of her abilities. Every life was needed! Important!
probably fine based on different emotional states in each case, but thought it would be worth bringing up just in case
It’s where I’d be if I was shooting somepony.
possible "was" to "were"
it would give me something to trade with the cap-monger back in Chapel.
"capmonger"
“Hey. If you’re reading this, please get out of Stone’s locker. I took his harness and put it where it’s safe. And if it’s you, Jet, it’s in the place where he did that thing that one time. Pick it up whenever you’re ready.
is "harness" really a natural thing to call the dragonhide jacket? eh, maybe for Big Macintosh
Lots of nothing out there. Looking down was every bit as
only one space after period
I took a deep breath and the reached out with my magic.
"and then"
taken the threat seriously….”
should have only three dots in ellipsis
Four of the grim faced, black-combat-armored soldiers surrounded
suggest hyphen for "grim faced"
59:
We’ll need some stealthbucks to hide our
"StealthBucks"
61:
“Ah.... whoopsie?”
should have only three dots in ellipsis
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Ah, thank you very much as always.
Thanks, though.
[quote-"Icy Shake"]Suggest a paragraph break after one of the first two sentences. Really should have one somewhere, since right now you have two speakers in the same paragraph.[/quote]
I decided that it would be better after the third sentence.
...Well, fixed now, anyway.
Ah, thank you very much as always.
has been changed to“You! I… you are out of your perverted striped mind!” I snorted, shifting back and forth awkwardly. “He’s a priest. I’m sure he’s taken vows or… or… something!”
“What value in a vow that is never tested? Or
"I-- I don't have time for that!"
"Not now, but later... Or
Right, I have some vague memories suggesting that this might actually have been brought up at the time. Suicide doesn't happen. It simply doesn't! Except when it does, but then everyone tries to apply "Don't think about it" extra hard.Icy Shake wrote:probably fine based on different emotional states in each case, but thought it would be worth bringing up just in case
Thanks, though.
Aye, that one I clearly remember bringing up during brushing. Still can't think of anything better, though, unfortunately.Icy Shake wrote:Is "surfacer" the right word there? I think that was more used by the Enclave to describe people on the ground than people in the stables to describe the people outside.
Aye. You have any thoughts? "Wastelander" doesn't work here (though I've make the change in 61).Icy Shake wrote:again, this is kind of weird, since this and the other case in the chapter were almost the only time that it wasn't explictily as a contrast to the Enclave or pegasi, and the one other time ("“You need to think like a surfacer here, Blackjack, not a stable pony or cloud dweller,” Rampage replied." from 61) might work better as "Wastelander". Oh, and Blackjack has specifically identified herself as a surfacer before, and was probably the person most often called "surfacer"
The relationship stuff, I think.Icy Shake wrote:I'm not seeing anything prompting Velvet to sigh
[quote-"Icy Shake"]Suggest a paragraph break after one of the first two sentences. Really should have one somewhere, since right now you have two speakers in the same paragraph.[/quote]
I decided that it would be better after the third sentence.
Icy Shake wrote:is "stupid that doesn't stay down" in a lighter color than the rest?
...Um, yes. Yes, they seem to be. Why?Icy Shake wrote:is "I want them to do it of their own free will." in a lighter color than the rest?
...Well, fixed now, anyway.
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Icy Shake wrote:Frankly, it's an unpleasant situation which may all the same have been for the best, but I have a lot of sympathy for P-21's position that she could have waited to break it off until after the battle and moon operation are over. And frankly "there was no good time, and you have a baby now!" doesn't exactly cut it for me, since the whole point is no, they'll have a baby in a few months, and only if they get through this alive and recover Blackjack's old body. I know it's not fair, but none of it was fair to anyone, and that at least seems more expedient. If we can't have fair, can't we at least have that?
Yeah, I didn't like that much. It came off to me like "One or both of us may be dead in the next couple of days, and I didn't want to risk missing the chance to tell you that I'm breaking up with you." Huh?!
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Yeah, it's hard. Maybe "outside ponies" or "outsiders"/"outsider ponies"? The focus on "outside" might fit well with the repeated use of "outside" in chapter one.O. Hinds wrote:Aye, that one I clearly remember bringing up during brushing. Still can't think of anything better, though, unfortunately.Icy Shake wrote:Is "surfacer" the right word there? I think that was more used by the Enclave to describe people on the ground than people in the stables to describe the people outside.Aye. You have any thoughts? "Wastelander" doesn't work here (though I've make the change in 61).Icy Shake wrote:again, this is kind of weird, since this and the other case in the chapter were almost the only time that it wasn't explictily as a contrast to the Enclave or pegasi, and the one other time ("“You need to think like a surfacer here, Blackjack, not a stable pony or cloud dweller,” Rampage replied." from 61) might work better as "Wastelander". Oh, and Blackjack has specifically identified herself as a surfacer before, and was probably the person most often called "surfacer"
So "Outside[r] ponies... who could figure them out?" or "So please stop with the weird outside[r] hangups about sex, because it’s really weird."
Best I can think of at the moment. Maybe someone else will think of something.
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Icy Shake wrote:On a heavier note, Chapter 69 can really suck you in if you start thinking about the different facets of Blackjack/Glory/P-21 and how things got built up, how they might have gone differently. What mistakes were made. Frankly, it's an unpleasant situation which may all the same have been for the best, but I have a lot of sympathy for P-21's position that she could have waited to break it off until after the battle and moon operation are over. And frankly "there was no good time, and you have a baby now!" doesn't exactly cut it for me, since the whole point is no, they'll have a baby in a few months, and only if they get through this alive and recover Blackjack's old body. I know it's not fair, but none of it was fair to anyone, and that at least seems more expedient. If we can't have fair, can't we at least have that?
It's understandable and all given that BJ is the main character, but you guys value her feelings so much more than anyone else's. Let me ask you something and be honest, would it have been better for Glory to hide the fact she wanted to break it off with BJ and procede to be emotionally distant? That for BJ would have been incredibly distracting. She'd want to seek out the problem and fix it, being hard headed as she is she would have found the problem without Glory having to say anything.
To paraphrase a chracter from telltale's Walking Dead:
"There will never be a good time, but there will be worse times."
It's much better that she got the news when she was at a place to deal with it, instead of figuring it out in a much worse position down the line.
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I'm not sure that that's better enough to be worth switching in, sorry. Thanks, though.Icy Shake wrote:Yeah, it's hard. Maybe "outside ponies" or "outsiders"/"outsider ponies"? The focus on "outside" might fit well with the repeated use of "outside" in chapter one.
So "Outside[r] ponies... who could figure them out?" or "So please stop with the weird outside[r] hangups about sex, because it’s really weird."
Best I can think of at the moment. Maybe someone else will think of something.
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Well . . . yes. Although I think that what Glory did was well within the bounds of acceptability and may even have resulted in the best available outcome, yes. There was ample room to cover for emotional distance due to the months apart, Glory's perception that she had cheated on Blackjack with the one impostor, and everything with Cognitum. Glory says something to that effect, that it will take some time for her to be comfortable with Blackjack again after everything that has happened, and it can probably hold reasonably well through a few very busy days until things are over. It probably ends up a minor distraction, but very likely less so than what we actually had with Blackjack seeming to stop every few lines to think about getting Glory back. And while I don't know Walking Dead very well, at a guess I wouldn't say that they have an easily identifiable end point in the immediate future such that, if they can keep things together for maybe three to five days, every possible time would be a better time.Last wrote:Icy Shake wrote:On a heavier note, Chapter 69 can really suck you in if you start thinking about the different facets of Blackjack/Glory/P-21 and how things got built up, how they might have gone differently. What mistakes were made. Frankly, it's an unpleasant situation which may all the same have been for the best, but I have a lot of sympathy for P-21's position that she could have waited to break it off until after the battle and moon operation are over. And frankly "there was no good time, and you have a baby now!" doesn't exactly cut it for me, since the whole point is no, they'll have a baby in a few months, and only if they get through this alive and recover Blackjack's old body. I know it's not fair, but none of it was fair to anyone, and that at least seems more expedient. If we can't have fair, can't we at least have that?
It's understandable and all given that BJ is the main character, but you guys value her feelings so much more than anyone else's. Let me ask you something and be honest, would it have been better for Glory to hide the fact she wanted to break it off with BJ and procede to be emotionally distant? That for BJ would have been incredibly distracting. She'd want to seek out the problem and fix it, being hard headed as she is she would have found the problem without Glory having to say anything.
To paraphrase a chracter from telltale's Walking Dead:
"There will never be a good time, but there will be worse times."
It's much better that she got the news when she was at a place to deal with it, instead of figuring it out in a much worse position down the line.
Then again, in that same split post, on the same topic, I did say "I'm strongly inclined to take Blackjack's side in most things," so I might not be the best person to ask.
Fair enough.O. Hinds wrote:I'm not sure that that's better enough to be worth switching in, sorry. Thanks, though.Icy Shake wrote:Yeah, it's hard. Maybe "outside ponies" or "outsiders"/"outsider ponies"? The focus on "outside" might fit well with the repeated use of "outside" in chapter one.
So "Outside[r] ponies... who could figure them out?" or "So please stop with the weird outside[r] hangups about sex, because it’s really weird."
Best I can think of at the moment. Maybe someone else will think of something.
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Icy Shake wrote:
Well . . . yes. Although I think that what Glory did was well within the bounds of acceptability and may even have resulted in the best available outcome, yes. There was ample room to cover for emotional distance due to the months apart, Glory's perception that she had cheated on Blackjack with the one impostor, and everything with Cognitum. Glory says something to that effect, that it will take some time for her to be comfortable with Blackjack again after everything that has happened, and it can probably hold reasonably well through a few very busy days until things are over. It probably ends up a minor distraction, but very likely less so than what we actually had with Blackjack seeming to stop every few lines to think about getting Glory back. And while I don't know Walking Dead very well, at a guess I wouldn't say that they have an easily identifiable end point in the immediate future such that, if they can keep things together for maybe three to five days, every possible time would be a better time.
Then again, in that same split post, on the same topic, I did say "I'm strongly inclined to take Blackjack's side in most things," so I might not be the best person to ask.
Fair enough, I'm not gonna try and argue against bias.
The walking dead quote I was just using to illustrate the point that while there never is a good time for this kind of thing there are plenty of bad times do so. This was a good enough time, P-21 was able to spend hours comforting BJ because of the time Glory chose, something he would have not been able to do in the middle of a gunfight or a more tense moment sometime down the road.
As for holding it together, let's be frank, Glory would be holding it together forever. Remember at the party? With the burners? BJ is already looking towards the next problem. There is no peace for BJ, if she's physically able she'll be taking gunshots with a descended belly, and then months later she'll be turning into gunfire so the swaddle containing her children on the other side isn't peppered. Nothing about BJ gives off the idea she'll ever settle down. Regardless of the ideas she likes to entertain occasionally.
Five days later, after the end has blown over, Glory would be sitting there mouth agape ready to speak her mind and the doors of whatever residence they'd taken up would explode inward, her short opportunity lost.
tl:dr In conclusion, I personally don't think Glory is bad at all for this. I just think she's a person who got fed up with a relationship they weren't all that happy in.
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Minor problem: the autolinking system that Nallar uses now appears to have tacked some a Russian translation onto the end of its online copy of the story. Any ideas for how to fix that?
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I don't know if it would work or not, but you might be able to get around it by having the URL for the Russian GDoc hub page in plaintext rather than hyperlinked.
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I'll give it a shot; thanks.
Also, on another note, ILM126, I was looking at your trajectory plot, and you appear to have used a rotating Equus in your trajectory plotting. I apologize for not noticing this before, but PH, as far as I know, uses a nonrotating Equus. Sorry again for not catching this earlier.
Also, on another note, ILM126, I was looking at your trajectory plot, and you appear to have used a rotating Equus in your trajectory plotting. I apologize for not noticing this before, but PH, as far as I know, uses a nonrotating Equus. Sorry again for not catching this earlier.
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O. Hinds wrote:I'll give it a shot; thanks.
Also, on another note, ILM126, I was looking at your trajectory plot, and you appear to have used a rotating Equus in your trajectory plotting. I apologize for not noticing this before, but PH, as far as I know, uses a nonrotating Equus. Sorry again for not catching this earlier.
Hmm, alright. Looks like I'll need to work on another version quickly... Thanks for the heads up ^^
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You're welcome. Sorry about the inconvenience.
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Huh... so geosynchronous orbit is impossible? Interesting...O. Hinds wrote:Also, on another note, ILM126, I was looking at your trajectory plot, and you appear to have used a rotating Equus in your trajectory plotting. I apologize for not noticing this before, but PH, as far as I know, uses a nonrotating Equus. Sorry again for not catching this earlier.
Also interesting that Pink Eyes' Ponymedes* system consists of 12 orbital weapons platforms, so they wouldn't require a geosynchronous orbit to always have one within 15 degrees of a target's longitude. Its proximity to the target's zenith would depend on the latitude, of course.
*I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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@Last: Ah, I see where you're coming from. It's just I happen to disagree with the idea that such times (while not good) would not be better than right then, absent an active firefight. The stakes just aren't the same, nor is the probable danger. And it's not like Blackjack and company never have downtime. They've fairly frequently had periods of several hours to multiple days where they didn't have anything especially pressing.
@SC: No mundane geosynchronous orbit is possible (just ask Nightmare Moon). But then, that's the caveat to pretty much everything in the setting. Anyway, I try not to think too much about PE, for similar reasons and others. But it did have its moments.
@SC: No mundane geosynchronous orbit is possible (just ask Nightmare Moon). But then, that's the caveat to pretty much everything in the setting. Anyway, I try not to think too much about PE, for similar reasons and others. But it did have its moments.
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Aye, and any given satellite passes over the same ground points every cycle, invariant with the diurnal cycle. This makes some things easier (examples: two or three satellites in a single molniya orbit can cover a high-altitude location without the planet rotating away from them, and launches to the west have no dv penalty) and others harder (examples: covering every point on the surface takes more than one satellite in a polar orbit and some time, launches to the east have no dv bonus, and plane change maneuvers become much more important while remaining expensive).SilentCarto wrote:Huh... so geosynchronous orbit is impossible? Interesting...
It also has implications on the ground, such as the lack of a Coriolis effect and the attendant effects on weather patterns.
Hopefully we've not missed any implications...
Aye, you could put them each in a polar orbit thirty degrees apart. You'd have to wait for them to be overhead, but that's probably only about an hour and a half at most. Actually, though, not polar orbits; it would probably be much easier to have one of the cross points be over the launch site. Then you wouldn't have to do any plane changes, assuming that you set each up in a separate launch.SilentCarto wrote:Also interesting that Pink Eyes' Ponymedes* system consists of 12 orbital weapons platforms, so they wouldn't require a geosynchronous orbit to always have one within 15 degrees of a target's longitude. Its proximity to the target's zenith would depend on the latitude, of course.
*I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Not sure if those would really count as orbits then, but yeah. Magic.Icy Shake wrote:No mundane geosynchronous orbit is possible (just ask Nightmare Moon). But then, that's the caveat to pretty much everything in the setting.
Same here, pretty much. I never finished it, don't expect to, and don't include it in my headcanon, but I do seem to remember it having a few good bits.Icy Shake wrote:Anyway, I try not to think too much about PE, for similar reasons and others. But it did have its moments.
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SilentCarto wrote:Huh... so geosynchronous orbit is impossible? Interesting...O. Hinds wrote:Also, on another note, ILM126, I was looking at your trajectory plot, and you appear to have used a rotating Equus in your trajectory plotting. I apologize for not noticing this before, but PH, as far as I know, uses a nonrotating Equus. Sorry again for not catching this earlier.
Also interesting that Pink Eyes' Ponymedes* system consists of 12 orbital weapons platforms, so they wouldn't require a geosynchronous orbit to always have one within 15 degrees of a target's longitude. Its proximity to the target's zenith would depend on the latitude, of course.
*I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Looks like the science of Space Travel in the Equus system just got a whole lot more interesting.
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O. Hinds wrote:Aye, and any given satellite passes over the same ground points every cycle, invariant with the diurnal cycle. This makes some things easier (examples: two or three satellites in a single molniya orbit can cover a high-altitude location without the planet rotating away from them, and launches to the west have no dv penalty) and others harder (examples: covering every point on the surface takes more than one satellite in a polar orbit and some time, launches to the east have no dv bonus, and plane change maneuvers become much more important while remaining expensive).SilentCarto wrote:Huh... so geosynchronous orbit is impossible? Interesting...
It also has implications on the ground, such as the lack of a Coriolis effect and the attendant effects on weather patterns.
Hopefully we've not missed any implications...Aye, you could put them each in a polar orbit thirty degrees apart. You'd have to wait for them to be overhead, but that's probably only about an hour and a half at most. Actually, though, not polar orbits; it would probably be much easier to have one of the cross points be over the launch site. Then you wouldn't have to do any plane changes, assuming that you set each up in a separate launch.SilentCarto wrote:Also interesting that Pink Eyes' Ponymedes* system consists of 12 orbital weapons platforms, so they wouldn't require a geosynchronous orbit to always have one within 15 degrees of a target's longitude. Its proximity to the target's zenith would depend on the latitude, of course.
*I just threw up a little in my mouth.Not sure if those would really count as orbits then, but yeah. Magic.Icy Shake wrote:No mundane geosynchronous orbit is possible (just ask Nightmare Moon). But then, that's the caveat to pretty much everything in the setting.Same here, pretty much. I never finished it, don't expect to, and don't include it in my headcanon, but I do seem to remember it having a few good bits.Icy Shake wrote:Anyway, I try not to think too much about PE, for similar reasons and others. But it did have its moments.
No wonder the weather systems are quite chaotic, and possibly why magic is possible (or something). Because the physics is very different to ours, that maybe why Equus doesn't spin. gah! I'm not going try to understand this while I still have morning grogginess, I just remembered that the latest chapter would be released already. But turns out that it's being edited now or something, because the title is already up on the page :\
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That chapter name... I'll come back and check in a few hours...
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If it's being held up by magic, that's not an orbit, it's levitation.Icy Shake wrote:@SC: No mundane geosynchronous orbit is possible (just ask Nightmare Moon). But then, that's the caveat to pretty much everything in the setting. Anyway, I try not to think too much about PE, for similar reasons and others. But it did have its moments.
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Well, I can think of other options than levitation per se, such as a one-time magical hold freezing something in place relative to the surface or center of the planet. But whatever the mechanism or whatever you call it, with an appropriate application of magic, you can get something that looks an awful lot like geosynchronous orbit.SilentCarto wrote:If it's being held up by magic, that's not an orbit, it's levitation.Icy Shake wrote:@SC: No mundane geosynchronous orbit is possible (just ask Nightmare Moon). But then, that's the caveat to pretty much everything in the setting. Anyway, I try not to think too much about PE, for similar reasons and others. But it did have its moments.
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I don't know.... making sure you had a satellite reasonably close to zenith for the entire planet at all times would require something more on the scale of a GPS network -- at least 24, assuming you orchestrated them to never double-cover the same area and considered anywhere within 45 degrees of zenith to be "overhead". (Also, spherical geometry sucks.) In practice it would probably take something more like 60 sats as a back-of-the-envelope estimate, but that's spending an awful lot of effort to cover barren ice caps and oceans.O. Hinds wrote:Aye, you could put them each in a polar orbit thirty degrees apart. You'd have to wait for them to be overhead, but that's probably only about an hour and a half at most. Actually, though, not polar orbits; it would probably be much easier to have one of the cross points be over the launch site. Then you wouldn't have to do any plane changes, assuming that you set each up in a separate launch.
On the other hoof, as you point out, orbital inclination becomes largely a non-issue with a non-rotating planet. If you only cared about a particular swath of land -- say, Equestria -- you could choose any arbitrary path that provided the best coverage and set up your ring of a dozen satellites along that line. If you only cared about a few particular patches, as you point out, three sats sharing a highly elliptical orbit would approximate a single geosynchronous sat. (It wouldn't need to be at the Molniya/Tundra orbital inclination, since with no rotation there's no equatorial bulge to adjust for.)
- Spoilers for "The Cutie Map":
Incidentally, the Cutie Map stretches farther than any map of Equus we've ever seen (outside of a globe.) The continent that Equestria occupies extends southward beyond the badlands into a volcanic region that appears to be marked with a dragon skull. There's another continent East across the sea that is presumably Griffon lands, and -- most interesting -- a third continent to the southwest which is studded with acacia trees. Fillies and gentlecolts, I believe we finally have a canonical location for Zebrica!
Also of interest are a cluster of hills or caves (or hives?) directly across the straits from Zebrica, and a strip of tropical land (palm trees) stretching southeast along the seashore. That area includes an oddly specific depiction of a cove or cave, which must be rather important to feature on a map this big. Also notable is the absence of the Everfree Forest. It's unclear whether it's covered by the depiction of Ponyville, doesn't rate mention for some reason, or is somehow a blind spot for the map.
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Ah, I'm glad that that's your reaction. :)ILM126 wrote:Looks like the science of Space Travel in the Equus system just got a whole lot more interesting.
It's not going up this weekend, sorry. It looks like it will be a long one. We're hoping for next weekend. Did you want to wait until it came out to do more work? I can't confirm or deny that there's anything relevant, of course, but, as Tom hasn't hit yet in the posted chapters, there is indeed a possibility that there might be.ILM126 wrote:I just remembered that the latest chapter would be released already. But turns out that it's being edited now or something, because the title is already up on the page :\
Right, as I said, you'd not have them constantly overhead, but the period is probably only about ninety minutes. Too long for some applications, sure, but quite sufficient for others.SilentCarto wrote:I don't know.... making sure you had a satellite reasonably close to zenith for the entire planet at all times would require something more on the scale of a GPS network -- at least 24, assuming you orchestrated them to never double-cover the same area and considered anywhere within 45 degrees of zenith to be "overhead". (Also, spherical geometry sucks.) In practice it would probably take something more like 60 sats as a back-of-the-envelope estimate, but that's spending an awful lot of effort to cover barren ice caps and oceans.
Anyway, I think that I may have misinterpreted what I was replying to. Were you thinking of having them all share an equatorial orbit or something?
Well, not exactly. You still have to get the satellites into the orbits you want, and for some applications, the shifting ground coverage is advantageous.SilentCarto wrote:On the other hoof, as you point out, orbital inclination becomes largely a non-issue with a non-rotating planet.
Hm, interesting; I didn't notice any of that.SilentCarto wrote:
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Also of interest are a cluster of hills or caves (or hives?) directly across the straits from Zebrica, and a strip of tropical land (palm trees) stretching southeast along the seashore. That area includes an oddly specific depiction of a cove or cave, which must be rather important to feature on a map this big. Also notable is the absence of the Everfree Forest. It's unclear whether it's covered by the depiction of Ponyville, doesn't rate mention for some reason, or is somehow a blind spot for the map.
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Well this was reminiscent of reading A Song of Ice and Fire (George R R Martin).
I only just read chapter 74 and...
Yeah. I don't really have words.
On a side note, the random Japanese pony threw me for a loop. My suggestions regarding the language...
I might suggest changing
Because firstly, people tend not to think in teineigo (polite form). Also because 'yariman' is something like 'slut', which doesn't really lend itself well to the politeness of 'anata' which is something like how you'd refer to a random person on the street, rather than somebody you're trying to kill and calling a slut.
'shinde, yariman' means something like - 'Die, whore'. The 'you' is implied, but if you want to add it for emphasis, try 'teme ga shinde, yariman'
Great chapter though. I need to go and process this...
I only just read chapter 74 and...
Yeah. I don't really have words.
On a side note, the random Japanese pony threw me for a loop. My suggestions regarding the language...
I might suggest changing
toAnata ga shinimasu, yariman
shinde, yariman
Because firstly, people tend not to think in teineigo (polite form). Also because 'yariman' is something like 'slut', which doesn't really lend itself well to the politeness of 'anata' which is something like how you'd refer to a random person on the street, rather than somebody you're trying to kill and calling a slut.
'shinde, yariman' means something like - 'Die, whore'. The 'you' is implied, but if you want to add it for emphasis, try 'teme ga shinde, yariman'
Great chapter though. I need to go and process this...
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Ah, thank you. I went with "Shinde, yariman".Vixie wrote:Well this was reminiscent of reading A Song of Ice and Fire (George R R Martin).
I only just read chapter 74 and...
Yeah. I don't really have words.
On a side note, the random Japanese pony threw me for a loop. My suggestions regarding the language...
I might suggest changingtoAnata ga shinimasu, yarimanshinde, yariman
Because firstly, people tend not to think in teineigo (polite form). Also because 'yariman' is something like 'slut', which doesn't really lend itself well to the politeness of 'anata' which is something like how you'd refer to a random person on the street, rather than somebody you're trying to kill and calling a slut.
'shinde, yariman' means something like - 'Die, whore'. The 'you' is implied, but if you want to add it for emphasis, try 'teme ga shinde, yariman'
Great chapter though. I need to go and process this...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
That was my thought, yes.O. Hinds wrote:Anyway, I think that I may have misinterpreted what I was replying to. Were you thinking of having them all share an equatorial orbit or something?
Well, yeah, if you're doing mapping or something. I was only considering the Ponymedes (blugh) system in this case.O. Hinds wrote:Well, not exactly. You still have to get the satellites into the orbits you want, and for some applications, the shifting ground coverage is advantageous.
See, in FoNV, there's only one ARCHIMEDES II platform mentioned in the terminal logs at Helios One and it's available at any time, which implies that it's in geostationary orbit over* the Mojave. Ponymedes (hurk) is described differently, though, so it turns out there's no conflict with a non-rotating planet.
From what the FoE Wiki says, Puppy managed to unload the entire constellation's ammo supply into a Steel Ranger base during a battle against Applejack's Rangers. They're apparently a Thor-type kinetic strike system, not laser-based, because it took 7 minutes for the first shot to arrive, providing ample time for the Rangers to evacuate. Just like G.I. Joe.
*I know, I know, you can only be geostationary over the Equator. I'm assuming nobody at Obsidian thought hard enough about that to have the laser come in from a southerly angle.
Eheheheh...O. Hinds wrote:Hm, interesting; I didn't notice any of that.
[looks at your name]
Oh, right. :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
Apparently my automated conversion of PH broke a while ago (wordcount got too high!) and no-one messaged me :(
Should be updated and working again within the next few days when the next conversion runs. That or the converter will run out of RAM and crash my server because PH is too big now, and calibre's converter gobbles memory 0.o.
Should be updated and working again within the next few days when the next conversion runs. That or the converter will run out of RAM and crash my server because PH is too big now, and calibre's converter gobbles memory 0.o.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
Ah, hello! Sorry about that.nallar wrote:Apparently my automated conversion of PH broke a while ago (wordcount got too high!) and no-one messaged me :(
Should be updated and working again within the next few days when the next conversion runs. That or the converter will run out of RAM and crash my server because PH is too big now, and calibre's converter gobbles memory 0.o.
While you're here, the full text currently has one of the Russian translations added onto the end due to it being linked on the hub page. I've changed the link to just pasting in the address; will that work? (I assume that the full text hasn't updated to reflect the change yet anyway.)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
Haven't modified the code for the converter (other than changing some constants) since 2012. Hopefully that works, although it might just be searching for anything that looks like a google docs URL in the text. Making a short URL with https://goo.gl/ or something similar and linking to that will definitely prevent it from including the russian translation.O. Hinds wrote:Ah, hello! Sorry about that.nallar wrote:Apparently my automated conversion of PH broke a while ago (wordcount got too high!) and no-one messaged me :(
Should be updated and working again within the next few days when the next conversion runs. That or the converter will run out of RAM and crash my server because PH is too big now, and calibre's converter gobbles memory 0.o.
While you're here, the full text currently has one of the Russian translations added onto the end due to it being linked on the hub page. I've changed the link to just pasting in the address; will that work? (I assume that the full text hasn't updated to reflect the change yet anyway.)
Converter really needs rewritten, it's a bit rubbish. Unfortunately it also works, and I'm scared to touch it.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
We will never be done with dealing with legacy code, because we just keep writing more.nallar wrote:Haven't modified the code for the converter (other than changing some constants) since 2012. Hopefully that works, although it might just be searching for anything that looks like a google docs URL in the text. Making a short URL with https://goo.gl/ or something similar and linking to that will definitely prevent it from including the russian translation.O. Hinds wrote:Ah, hello! Sorry about that.nallar wrote:Apparently my automated conversion of PH broke a while ago (wordcount got too high!) and no-one messaged me :(
Should be updated and working again within the next few days when the next conversion runs. That or the converter will run out of RAM and crash my server because PH is too big now, and calibre's converter gobbles memory 0.o.
While you're here, the full text currently has one of the Russian translations added onto the end due to it being linked on the hub page. I've changed the link to just pasting in the address; will that work? (I assume that the full text hasn't updated to reflect the change yet anyway.)
Converter really needs rewritten, it's a bit rubbish. Unfortunately it also works, and I'm scared to touch it.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
How do I do that? Sorry.nallar wrote:Making a short URL with https://goo.gl/ or something similar and linking to that will definitely prevent it from including the russian translation.
By the way, I've just gone through and upvoted all of your posts. Your work has been tremendously useful.
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