Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[Harmony Ltd.]

be able to control human behavior

fuck no

*rolls eyes*

Well, that is if you meant something more invasive than simple social engineering, like actual mind control. Call me a bioconservative there, but the concept of Free Will is a thing I'm really attached to, even if it might not have a physical or scientific value.

[cb5]

or be able to identify genetic tendencies toward violence at an early-enough stage to abort.

strangely enough, only the poors and racial minority will seem to show these "genetic traits"

Ever seen the movie Gattaca?

Yes.

Eugenics is rooted in Classism and Racism, a point that movie helps show across.

Actually speaking of gattaca genetic engineering is now becoming a thing. They found out that you can trick cells by inserting the dna and then removing it. The problem that they were having before was that since the dna segment is randomly inserted that next time the cell divides there's a chance the person could develop cancer. For some odd reason inserting the dna and then removing it makes it work. You'd have to ask someone that works with genetics, but it's really weird why removing the strand would work.

[Harmony Ltd.]

[*]took that ACE test thingy (http://acestudy.org/), got a perfact zero as my score.

Just looked at that. I guess I get the same score, but only because they only count people of your own household.
How very odd.

I love how the test only asks about male-on-female abuse. You know, because female-on-male abuse is a total myth that never happens anywhere.

*shrug* pervasive sexism + statistics => women statistically more likely to be victims of marital abuse in the cases treated by the paper, I suppose ?

Not excusing the thing, of course.

[Harmony Ltd.]

"eugenics"

I actually had to stop and think / search the internet for several minute to remember the correct word for the concept, as it had slipped from my mind.

Thankfully a look at the page for "Brave New World" gave it back to me.

[Harmony Ltd.]

>mfw people say electronic music isn't really music because people don't play instruments to make it
>mfw people say using samples in your songs automatically makes you a lazy ass


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYFg_BN9OJo

[Harmony Ltd.]

but it sounded too evil mastermind-y.

Well, I have come to expect evil mastermindery out of you.  

[Harmony Ltd.]

There is, indeed, a lot to be said about the wider social benefits of generalizing mental healthcare as much as we have generalized physical healthcare.

[Tytan]

All this debate is filling my brain with fuck.

[Frost]

There is, indeed, a lot to be said about the wider social benefits of generalizing mental healthcare as much as we have generalized physical healthcare.

I.E. Mass shootings--at the risk of flame-wars, I'll say that guns aren't the root cause of that, it's the pitiful state of the US's mental healthcare system.

[cb5]

There is, indeed, a lot to be said about the wider social benefits of generalizing mental healthcare as much as we have generalized physical healthcare.

I.E. Mass shootings--at the risk of flame-wars, I'll say that guns aren't the root cause of that, it's the pitiful state of the US's mental healthcare system.

Yeah, our mental healthcare is practically non-existant. By the time they receive help shit has already hit the fan.

[Harmony Ltd.]

@ Frost : Yes, that is a good example, if an extreme one.

To loop back to what started this current line of discussion, a greater availibity of mental care would go a long way into breaking the cycle of abuse that generations are victim of (parents abusing their kids, who in turn abuse their kids, etc...).

From a purely economic standpoint, it would likely increase productivity per capita, as an employee in good mental condition is less likely to do shit job when all other factors are removed from the equation.

[Harmony Ltd.]

All this debate is filling my brain with fuck.

How so ?

[cb5]

@ Frost : Yes, that is a good example.

To loop back to what started this current line of discussion, a greater availibity of mental care would go a long way into breaking the cycle of abuse that generations are victim of (parents abusing their kids, who in turn abuse their kids, etc...).

From a purely economic standpoint, it would likely increase productivity per capita, as an employee in good mental condition is less likely to do shit job when all other factors are removed from the equation.

The reason we don't is short sightedness monetarily, or the "Why should I save ten dollars in the future when I can save $5 now" mentality.

[Harmony Ltd.]

There's also that the people paying aren't the same reaping the benefits either way.

[Tytan]

All this debate is filling my brain with fuck.

How so ?

Debate about topics that don't really need debating shut the 'giveashit' center of my brain down and 'fucks' start to build up. Symptoms include a general malaise, depression, and explosive ass syndrome. The best course of treatment is a nice healthy discussion about topics including, but not limited to: video games, breasts, ponies, boobs, internet related things, breasts, movies, gazongas, interesting books, sweater puppies, guns, love pillows, and head canon.

Spoiler:

[Frost]

@ Frost : Yes, that is a good example, if an extreme one.

To loop back to what started this current line of discussion, a greater availibity of mental care would go a long way into breaking the cycle of abuse that generations are victim of (parents abusing their kids, who in turn abuse their kids, etc...).

From a purely economic standpoint, it would likely increase productivity per capita, as an employee in good mental condition is less likely to do shit job when all other factors are removed from the equation.

That's more in line with what I was thinking, but the shooting spree example, being relatively topical, was what came to mind when I was putting my thoughts to words.

@Tytan: What about swords 'n shit? I posted, like three videos a few pages back. That didn't fill your holes conversation-wise?

[Tytan]

They were interesting, but swords are more my brothers thing. For some reason I just prefer knives and guns.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Debate about topics that don't really need debating

Well, as far as I can tell, we aren't debating. Simply discussing and exchanging ideas.

But that's just my own point of view.

Edit : on a more general note, on cases like these, you are free and welcome to propose another subject of discussion. Simply asking people to stop talking about something, unless it's actually upsetting / hurting someone, isn't really productive.

[Harmony Ltd.]

For the Mass Effect fans out there :

http://magiceffectcomic.tumblr.com/

[Tytan]

I'm not asking you to stop, I'm trying to change the subject.

How about this, Breaking Bad might get an opera.

Or this, GTAV will be coming to the PC in 2014.

Or this, X-com enemy within has a preview out now.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Trying to change the subject, implicitly, means putting an end, or at least a temporary halt, to the discussion.

Anyway, GTA5 isn't on PC yet ? That just goes to show how much I don't care about it, then, that I didn't know that.

As for Breaking Bad, I still have to get into watching that show, now that it has ended. I don't expect to do that before January or February, though.

BY the way, this makes me think I should remember to watch the last few episodes of Attack on Titan I haven't watched yet before saturday...

[Ironmonger]

Or this, GTAV will be coming to the PC in 2014.

Assuming I can get my mates Frost and Crater on board with it, I plan to do a Let's Play of GTAV once it hits PC, and once I have my "studio" set up.

Perhaps the occasional appearance of other friends...

>Maniacal laughing.
>Hurls velveeta at people.

Edits because I can't English today.

[cb5]

BY the way, this makes me think I should remember to watch the last few episodes of Attack on Titan I haven't watched yet before saturday...

Personally I like it.  The only people that didn't like it were the people that say anime should follow manga, but realistically speaking you can't have a anime 100% follow a manga cause it'll become a trainwreck like what happened to fullmetal alchemist's original anime's storyline vs brotherhood's storyline.  Fullmetal alchemist tried to follow the manga's storyline before the manga finished and look at what happened to the ending.  In trying to keep so close to the lore that ironically the anime massively deviated from the manga.  Which is why they released brotherhood, cause they were like, "We can't let this go like this, we need to remake it so that the anime is in line with the manga".

I could really talk your ear off about why the people who are upset about snk's season finale are wrong, but I'll just make it short:  The attack on titan's season finale was in production before the manga chapter was in production, so if you read the manga don't get upset at the anime.  It's also why the studio is delaying the production of the next season cause they want to wait until the manga is done to make the next season so viewers don't get upset again.

Tl:dr; It's good considering that the episode was in production before the manga chapter, and considering the negative reaction they got from fans they're going to wait until the manga finishes to make season 2.

Tl:dr; of Tl:dr; Imagine if the harry potter movies were in production before the books, that's the fundamental problem about anime's relation to a lot of manga.

I give the season final a 8.7/10 considering it was in production before the manga chapter.

[Frost]

Personally, I don't really care about conflicts with the manga/anime/whatever. As far as I'm concerned, if you can make an anime a straight adaption of the original work; fine. If you can't, then don't sweat it and just make your own damn story. Just about every production team goes into making adaptions in full knowledge that they'll end up having to change some stuff anyway.

Most of the time, I'd just enjoy the chance to get two stories set in a world I like (think of it as an AU sort of thing) though sometimes one or the other is just crap that's not worth your time (ex: the Berserk anime back in the 90's that was a watered-down mess that covered the least mature and fleshed-out arc(s) of the manga)

[cb5]

Personally, I don't really care about conflicts with the manga/anime/whatever. As far as I'm concerned, if you can make an anime a straight adaption of the original work; fine. If you can't, then don't sweat it and just make your own damn story. Just about every production team goes into making adaptions in full knowledge that they'll end up having to change some stuff anyway.

Most of the time, I'd just enjoy the chance to get two stories set in a world I like (think of it as an AU sort of thing) though sometimes one or the other is just crap that's not worth your time (ex: the Berserk anime back in the 90's that was a watered-down mess that covered the least mature and fleshed-out arc(s) of the manga)

The thing that a lot of people don't realize is that what caused a lot of franchises to turn into utter garbage was fans demanding faster episodes that are true to the manga. This causes the manga to have to hurry up which screws it up as well.

It's why naruto is so terrible cause the fans were demanding episodes with the central(non-filler plot) being 100% accurate at a rate that the manga couldn't keep up so the anime started releasing the fillers and such while the manga just stopped caring about quality. If the people who make the show and the manga had just told fans to go fuck themselves it would have been a lot shorter, but decent.

The best option a anime studio and a manga studio can do is to tell the fans that go around demanding a new episode or new chapter every week to go fuck themselves.

It's why brotherhood is a lot better than fullmetal alchemist. Fullmetal alchemist they cave into fan pressure to get new episodes out faster and faster, where as studio bones with brotherhood just told people to go fuck themselves and let them do their job.

[Frost]

Except, you know.....telling your customers to go fuck themselves is rarely the best option.

[Guest]

Except, you know.....telling your customers to go fuck themselves is rarely the best option.

But how I do wish I could say that to certain people. It'd make my day.

[Moodyman90]

I'm more than willing to talk Enemy Within, it's why I have a couple of post that are back to back in the Enemy Within thread.

[RoboRed]

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