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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:20 pm

Outside of the video game world, a great act of force is often necessary (you'll note I never mentioned to completely abolish armor, bombers, or frontline infantry, just that they're to be used with finesse and intelligence rather than a mere sledgehammer) and, in terms of aviation, making planes stealth-capable is ungodly expensive

In summary: it's not just about brute force, but sometimes the sneaky way doesn't cut it.
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Post by cb5 Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:35 pm

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I don't know what the artist's original message was, but whatever it was I have to agree with them everyone should get coffee.
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:37 pm

cb5 wrote:*snip*
I don't know what the artist's original message was, but whatever it was I have to agree with them everyone should get coffee.
I think he's trying to say that arguing over stuff like that is pointless
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Post by cb5 Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:40 pm

stringtheory wrote:
cb5 wrote:*snip*
I don't know what the artist's original message was, but whatever it was I have to agree with them everyone should get coffee.
I think he's trying to say that arguing over stuff like that is pointless
. . . Yeah we already have a bunch of stuff to already argue about over the internet, like politics, glbt rights, minimum wage, patriotism, oil, capitalism, socialism, communism, isolationism vs interventionalism, gun rights, privacy, the nsa, abortion, birth control, immigration, economics, and religion.
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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:56 pm

stringtheory wrote:
cb5 wrote:*snip*
I don't know what the artist's original message was, but whatever it was I have to agree with them everyone should get coffee.
I think he's trying to say that arguing over stuff like that is pointless
Or that haters are heretic-terrorist-bullies we should stalk and kill in the woods. That's a good message; I like to narrow the targets down.
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Post by Moodyman90 Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:26 pm

The comic could be a way to represent three base types of fans.
Panel 1 are the ones who actively attack others and give fandom in general a bad name.
Panel 2 is the fans who just don't care about any other fandom.
Panel 3 is the fans who are able to get along with others, or actually share interest.
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Post by Scienza Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:29 pm

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This GIF always makes me lose my shit. Also incredibly useful in trying to describe pones to non-bronies.
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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:16 pm

I'm annoyed at the lack of naked men in a lot of things. Jeopardy, for instance, was sorely lacking in manservice before Alex Trebec finally ditched the suit and shook the money-maker during Double Jeopardy. The shame of it was that that particular question was one of Jeopardy's rare research errors, so the lucky guys and gals who saw Alex unleashed missed out on that money even though they were right.
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Post by cb5 Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:17 pm

swicked wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:
Harmony Ltd. wrote:
cb5 wrote:Is red a okay color for your flag?
Well, any way you look at it, it's still red, white and blue Spike 
You can always tell it's not the real French flag so long as there's more than white.
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Sacrebleu, ohohoho they went for all the cheese the moon is made out of for zer wine we.
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Post by Katarn Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:19 pm

old, but funny.:
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:23 pm

swicked wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:I'm annoyed at the lack of naked men in a lot of things. Jeopardy, for instance, was sorely lacking in manservice before Alex Trebec finally ditched the suit and shook the money-maker during Double Jeopardy. The shame of it was that that particular question was one of Jeopardy's rare research errors, so the lucky guys and gals who saw Alex unleashed missed out on that money even though they were right.
No, seriously, full frontal nudity on women, then they turn around and spread their legs for the camera and zoom it. Constant chest shots.
I've only seen, like, two penises so far. Half the time the girl(s) are nude and the guy's still wearing pants.
Not enjoying this one bit >:(
Blame society for the lack of dicks.
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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:25 pm

swicked wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:I'm annoyed at the lack of naked men in a lot of things. Jeopardy, for instance, was sorely lacking in manservice before Alex Trebec finally ditched the suit and shook the money-maker during Double Jeopardy. The shame of it was that that particular question was one of Jeopardy's rare research errors, so the lucky guys and gals who saw Alex unleashed missed out on that money even though they were right.
No, seriously, full frontal nudity on women, then they turn around and spread their legs for the camera and zoom it. Constant chest shots.
I've only seen, like, two penises so far. Half the time the girl(s) are nude and the guy's still wearing pants.
Not enjoying this one bit >:(
Eww, penises!? Nobody wants to see those things. Ladies don't want penises--all ladies want other ladies. What are you, one a' them gays?
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Post by cb5 Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:26 pm

Katarn wrote:
old, but funny.:
The funny thing is that sometimes these are intentional by advertising agencies as a inside joke if there's a magazine or such and they know what the other ads are.
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Post by Katarn Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:37 pm

Spoiler:
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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:40 pm

swicked wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:Eww, penises!? Nobody wants to see those things. Ladies don't want penises--all ladies want other ladies. What are you, one a' them gays?
Given what you already definitively know about me, signs seem to point toward "no".
Then quit yer bellyachin' and have a gander at the ladies, boy. We don't need none o' this "penis" business 'round here. Men likin' penises, god forbid that. That's a myth, like North Dakota or the female orgasm.
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Post by Valikdu Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:46 pm

You know, it's kind of unnerving that everyone instantly jumped to a real-life Modern Warfare plot.

Things here are in a perpetual state of fucked up. Less so than in the 90s, but they still are. I can say with certainty that we won't be taking anything over by force.

Well, maybe except S. Ossetia. And only if they ask ask us to, themselves. Like, if the Georgians start bombing Tskhinval again.
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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:50 pm

swicked wrote:I'd really rather not.
Stupid nudey show...
A man not obsessed with ladies and thinkin' 'bout procreatin' every waking moment? Now I know you're one a' them gays.
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Post by Frost Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:52 pm

Valikdu wrote: I can say with certainty that we won't be taking anything over by force.
You can make your little "logical arguments" all you want, Red. I'm still charged with protecting Freedom And Justice, and I've got my bald-eagle-eye on you.
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Post by Scyto Harmony Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:04 am

Mister Frost wrote:I'm still charged with protecting Freedom And Justice,
*snort*
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Post by Frost Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:09 am

Scyto Harmony wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:I'm still charged with protecting Freedom And Justice,
*snort*
Hush, you. I'm here to protect Truth, Justice, and the American Way, and I won't have any of your "snorting". Snorting was proven Un-American by our hero, Joseph A. McCarthy, nearly sixty years ago. You syrup-lickers are just lucky we haven't come and Liberated you from your Un-American-ness with good ol' fashioned American bullets.
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Post by Moodyman90 Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:06 am

Valikdu wrote:You know, it's kind of unnerving that everyone instantly jumped to a real-life Modern Warfare plot.

Things here are in a perpetual state of fucked up. Less so than in the 90s, but they still are. I can say with certainty that we won't be taking anything over by force.

Well, maybe except S. Ossetia. And only if they ask ask us to, themselves. Like, if the Georgians start bombing Tskhinval again.
Oi! We wasn't involved.

Err... I mean, of course! Those darn Georgians.
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Post by Katarn Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:52 am

Ah, yes. Russian tanks in Georgia...did it caused small panic in said state or was it a myth?
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Post by Valikdu Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:23 am

I don't think there was any. Unless Bush had actually mistaken the two Georgias.

...On a different note, the Imoen Romance mod for Baldur's Gate II is probably not going to be completed. The author hasn't been seen for 5 months, and her own site appears to be defunct.
This makes me really sad.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:51 am

Valikdu wrote:You know, it's kind of unnerving that everyone instantly jumped to a real-life Modern Warfare plot.

Things here are in a perpetual state of fucked up. Less so than in the 90s, but they still are. I can say with certainty that we won't be taking anything over by force.

Well, maybe except S. Ossetia. And only if they ask ask us to, themselves. Like, if the Georgians start bombing Tskhinval again.
I will admit to have gone overboard on the Russian-scare, to get my point across RE European Defense Policies.

The fact still remain that our forces are structured in such a way, around us being part of NATO, that we have become overly reliant on the United States of America to pursue our own European defense policies.

And we won't have a real unified Defense policy for Europe as long as we won't have a real unified Diplomacy for Europe, resting on unified Economic and Social policies.

Short form : Europe may be the most politically integrated continent on the planet to this day, but it's still a far cry from what we would need to be in order to claim the first place on the podium. Right now we're barely #2 when taken as a whole.




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Post by Kattlarv Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:45 am

Tytan wrote:@Katt, you're mistaken. She doesn't have a hardon, she has a murder boner.
Ah, I see. They're very similar in firmness though xP

@Frost: You know, like "all elves shoot bows and love the forest", "all dwarves dig in mines", "all orcs are retarded, bloodthristy arglebargles", "all women are stay at home wives", "hollywood black man" or "all heroic men are Caucasian, dark hair bold and brave.". Stereotypes or one sided things. Or PH's extreme: Every single wasteland mare has been raped and beaten, but as they are all women, they know and are better than men, so they don't sink to that level. And every single wasteland stallion is capable and willing to do rape, along with being selfish. Single, unique story characters not included.
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:34 am

@Kim
You know, there are a lot of exceptions to that rule about PH - non-main characters, or even recurring characters, included. It's a trend in it, and I know you think that doesn't make sense because of the gender ratios in the show and you don't like it 'cos of a litany of reasons, but it's absolutely not the rule.

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Post by Tytan Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:27 am

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@Kim
You know, there are a lot of exceptions to that rule about PH - non-main characters, or even recurring characters, included. It's a trend in it, and I know you think that doesn't make sense because of the gender ratios in the show and you don't like it 'cos of a litany of reasons, but it's absolutely not the rule.
And I can't help but think the number of rape cases would climb if the world would come to an end. Without the taboos and mores of modern society that keep it from happening more often it would become a lot more frequent. And while Katt may disagree and though its not true in every case the average man is stronger than the average woman. And if it were a Fallout sort of setting you'd kind of expect roving bands of raiders that have no trouble with that sort of thing.

*rereads what he just wrote*

God that's depressing.

Edit: Stupid autocorrect.
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Post by Scyto Harmony Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:58 am

Tytan wrote:
Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@Kim
You know, there are a lot of exceptions to that rule about PH - non-main characters, or even recurring characters, included. It's a trend in it, and I know you think that doesn't make sense because of the gender ratios in the show and you don't like it 'cos of a litany of reasons, but it's absolutely not the rule.
And I can't help but think the number of rape cases would climb if the world would come to an end. Without the taboos and mores of modern society that keep it from happening more often it would become a lot more frequent. And while Katt may disagree and though its not true in every case the average man is stronger than the average woman. And if it were a Fallout sort of setting you'd kind of expect roving bands of raiders that have no trouble with that sort of thing.

*rereads what he just wrote*

God that's depressing.

Edit: Stupid autocorrect.
I don't think anyone is arguing against that, not even Kkat. I think Kim is pointing out how there's way too much emphasis on 'people get raped'. Edit: In PH, I mean.
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Post by Frost Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:25 am

Kattlarv wrote:@Frost: You know, like "all elves shoot bows and love the forest", "all dwarves dig in mines", "all orcs are retarded, bloodthristy arglebargles", "all women are stay at home wives", "hollywood black man" or "all heroic men are Caucasian, dark hair bold and brave.". Stereotypes or one sided things. Or PH's extreme: Every single wasteland mare has been raped and beaten, but as they are all women, they know and are better than men, so they don't sink to that level. And every single wasteland stallion is capable and willing to do rape, along with being selfish. Single, unique story characters not included.
Well, regarding your first point:

Berserk's "elves" are more like faries or elemental spirits. For the most part, the two we mostly see are comic-relief characters

Berserk does have dwarves (the main character recently acquired a cursed/blessed suit of dwarf-forged armor) but they've yet to appear and are implicitly extinct

Berserk lacks orcs. It has trolls, which are semi-etherial monsters that are basically semi-intelligent animals, and some of the demonic troops look like orcs (though they're far more malevolent and intelligent) though the main foes are Apostles, which.....don't really fit into the normal sorting hat for fantasy stories.

Guts, the hero is a Caucasian (as are most characters; the story being set in ancient Europe) he has dark hair, and he's very bold and brave--"bold" meaning "kind of an asshole" and "brave" meaning "a vengeance-obsessed berserker". Other heroes, like Serpico, tend to avoid this. Serpico's some skinny blonde guy who fights with a rapier and despite being of noble blood (He was the bastard child of a noble; he was raised on the streets before his father discovered him and took him in as a servant) acts sort of like the team's fussy mom. A fussy mom who, when he's able to press his advantages, can give Guts a serious run for his money (and Guts is heavily implied to not be entirely human by this point) and is mostly along for the ride to take care of his mistress/secretly half-sister (she doesn't know)

Regarding the rape--yes, there's a lot of it, but it's far from everyone in the world. It's not just for its own sake, though--it's used by supernatural creatures of all sorts to spread their corruption evill-ness-itude (a demon-possessed horse attempted to rape the aforementioned half-sister-lady and, though it never got the chance, she was still vulnerable to possession later)
very spoilers:

Most men are completely horrified at the idea of rape or of raping someone--the head of the Bakilaka, a nomadic, bloodthirsty assassin-cult, is absolutely horrified when he sees what's going on in the palace (hint: not pleasant things) and even most Apostles won't stoop to that level, and becoming an Apostle involves, among other things, finding what tropers would call the "Moral Event Horizon" and skipping merrily over it.
even spoiler-y-er spoilers:

One of the Godhand, Slaan, is a Succubus-like woman and the only member of the five-member-Godhand (besides the newly-added Femto, see above spoilers) to appear interested in sexuality at all--of course, as the other members are a tiny, bloated deformed man, a floating, tentacled head, and a tall figure with eight-foot arms and an exposed skull and brain, one can rather see why--and she tortured Guts in a scene chock full of rape imagery.
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