Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[Kippershy]

Hey, I'm not saying I've got the biggest and therefore not really debating on the size of it.
However, what I am saying is I only save the higher quality ones.

Which is a point; I've never really saved much P.H stuff, despite having a folder for it.

[Ironmonger]

With a mellowed-out feeling: Good morning everypony.

[Kippershy]

I got my haircut today.

For once, I am clean shaven AND have short hair.


...This isn't the Kipper I know.

[Ironmonger]

I let my hair grow out because I don't like haircuts but I have to get one regardless. Going to get a 'normal haircut' but have the back done up in a short ponytail for sophistication.

Wait a minute, ponies, ponytail-LOLDAMNIT

[Caoimhe]

Skipping everything on this page for a moment to express how I would love love love love love love if S3 had an episode that was a day in the lives of the Princesses. Start the episode with Celestia reading the latest letter from T-Sparx and go from there. Worldbuilding, bitches.

Edit: All those luna pics and no

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[Ironmonger]

With patriotism for my fandom: I have a feeling that MLP will be around for many years to come.

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[Kippershy]

Skipping everything on this page for a moment to express how I would love love love love love love if S3 had an episode that was a day in the lives of the Princesses. Start the episode with Celestia reading the latest letter from T-Sparx and go from there. Worldbuilding, bitches.

Edit: All those luna pics and no

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Saved <3

[Ironmonger]

HUZZAH, HEATHEN!

EDIT: Got a luna pic for you, don't remember if it was already posted.

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[Kippershy]

HUZZAH, HEATHEN!

EDIT: Got a luna pic for you, don't remember if it was already posted.

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Didn't post but already have it.

[Ironmonger]

I have a folder filled with assorted pony stuff, mostly FoE and Blackjack...Blackjack space marines hmmm....

EDIT: If Security steals a carriage is it grand theft auto or blackjacking? Don't ask, I just came up with that one.

[Kippershy]

Yes, that is a hard-drive designated "Pony"

[CamoBadger]

No NMM folder?! What, she not good enough for your harddrive?

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[Ironmonger]

I keep all of my stuff on a hard drive. A messy one that I need to clean up. Also this.

[Kippershy]

No NMM folder?! What, she not good enough for your harddrive?

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NMM isn't popular in the breads, no-one ever posts her so no pictures of her.
I'm not against her, but I'm not at all partial to her either.

Straight up Luna is best Luna. Hell, Luna only comes secondpony to yellowpony for me.

[CamoBadger]

No NMM folder?! What, she not good enough for your harddrive?

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NMM isn't popular in the breads, no-one ever posts her so no pictures of her.
I'm not against her, but I'm not at all partial to her either.

Straight up Luna is best Luna. Hell, Luna only comes secondpony to yellowpony for me.

We can agree on this...mostly. Luna is clearly best pony, but oh well.

If you'd like any more Luna pictures, let me know. My number is up to 366 Lunapics now.

[Ironmonger]

Rainbow Dash is best pony. Still love luna but she is secondpony.

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[FeatherDust]

Bah. Unfazed. Methinks I'm broken. Also having my favorite song at the moment be 'Lullaby for a Princess' is probably why I'm emotionally drained all the time.

I know, right?! I tear up every time that comes up on my pseudopod (non-apple mp3 player), especially when it hits the bridge about how she never thought she'd have to face eternity alone.

[O. Hinds]

[Kippershy]

Oh fuck me with a fire-hydrant I love this song O.O

[Sindri]

I like the song (not perfect, but pretty damn good), but I'm having a difficult time connecting it to Security.

[Cptadder]

I like the song (not perfect, but pretty damn good), but I'm having a difficult time connecting it to Security.

I'm meh on the song, and in no way connect it to Security. Sure it's in security's honor it's fine but if you had to pen something for security I always imaged something like this ditty Rocky road to Dublin from Sherlock Homes
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Great movie fyi, but yes Blacjack does best while drunk and singing therefor she gets a rollicking high energy folk song.

[Sindri]

I'm meh on the song, and in no way connect it to Security. Sure it's in security's honor it's fine but if you had to pen something for security I always imaged something like this ditty Rocky road to Dublin from Sherlock Homes

Exactly! A Blackjack song should be jaunty, easy to sing while drunk, and have references to mayhem and/or brawling.

(But fyi, that's a classic song from the 19th century at latest. It's not from the movie.)
(edit: turns out the words were written by D.K. Gavan, "The Galway Poet", for the English music hall performer Harry Clifton (1824-1872), who popularised the song. At least according to wikipedia. So my guess of 19th century was awesome. And since then it's been done by... pretty much every band with an Irish influence to it, with The Dubliners's 2009 recording for the movie as the most recent listed.)

[Cptadder]

Exactly! A Blackjack song should be jaunty, easy to sing while drunk, and have references to mayhem and/or brawling.

(But fyi, that's a classic song from the 19th century at latest. It's not from the movie.)

Exactly, exactly... but yes I know it's a classic song but like all songs it's vulnerable to getting associated with other media, Highway to the Danger Zone is "the Top Gun song" or Ain't No Rest For The Wicked is the "Borderlands song"

[Kippershy]

Look, you're all wrong.
There's one song that I suggested god knows how long ago back in the second comment thread on EQD which Somber agreed was Blackjacks theme...

That was this:

[Sindri]

Exactly, exactly... but yes I know it's a classic song but like all songs it's vulnerable to getting associated with other media, Highway to the Danger Zone is "the Top Gun song" or Ain't No Rest For The Wicked is the "Borderlands song"

I guess it's just that I first heard that song over a decade ago and haven't gotten around to the movie yet.

Look, you're all wrong.
There's one song that I suggested god knows how long ago back in the second comment thread on EQD which Somber agreed was Blackjacks theme...

That was this:

No, see, that song there is an old, successful person looking back at all they've lost over the years and giving up. Rocky Road to Dublin sounds lighter (Blackjack only sings when she's on the high points) but it's about somebody going through a bundle of setbacks and hardships along their journey, but always pressing forward (with the assistance of alcohol. and occasionally beating people with a stick). The tone of yours fits, but the themes are all backwards.

and also I hate Johnny Cash

[Kippershy]

Ah, true as that may be Sindri, the thing with 'hurt' is it can also be looked as a "what have I done, I've failed." even mid-way through the story.

You see it as an end song, I don't.
Don't let the fact it was Cash's last song affect your judgement, or that he was old when he sung it.

His age could be used to portray the depressed, dismal, failurific feelings Blackjack is feeling at any point in time if she were to sing or hell, even without singing.
It's not about her singing it but rather how she feels.

That is why this song is her song.

[Sindri]

I'm not looking at the singer, I'm looking at the lyrics. He goes on about giving away his "empire of dirt" and how "everybody I know goes away in the end" and his "crown of thorns, upon [his] liars chair" and "the stains of time" ... this is clearly someone looking back after achieving (outward) greatness and only being able to see all the things he sacrificed or lost on the way to get there.
Blackjack's never built that empire of dirt, and sure as hell isn't giving up. She's lost, probably more than the narrator of the little story Cash was telling, but she isn't looking back on those losses from the end of the road and cursing her accomplishments for not being worth it, she's gathering what she has left and pushing forward to do something.

The emotions, especially at the start of it, do fit the darker moments for Blackjack. Like when she was stuck on the bed after losing Priest, this would be perfect. But the story it tells is almost completely contrary to where Blackjack is.

[Kippershy]

Doesn't have to be greatness.

Are you saying you never look back and regret choices you made or things you had to do? That if you knew of a way, you wouldn't change some things if there was no consequence in doing so?

Looking back in regret can be done by anyone, regardless of what achievement they've attained.


Empire of dirt? Hell, sometimes *I* feel like all I have is as much as an empire of dirt! I live alone, I've been away from parents since I was 17 and all alone since 19.
I'm 21 now.
I've held down a job since I was 16, made a little progression though not much.
I've got things some people can't say they do...

Yet it's all so hollow and meaningless that it may as well be dirt.


Everyone going away in the end isn't a time limit either. It could be that every friend you've ever made leaves you after a short while.
It could be that you killed your entire home out of necessity, and that would be everyone leaving in the end.

The crown of thorns is about how some people view her as 'Security, the mare who brings safety back to the wasteland one place at a time' while others see the "terrible deeds" she's done at the same time, and despise her for it.
The liars chair fits into the same message as the crown.
Queen Whiskey, destroyer and saviour of Hoofington.



You're wrong. You are so damn wrong.
Blackjack has given up in the past and if you tell me otherwise I will call bullshit on you.
The mattress? Giving up, but she made it back with help from P-21.

The rock of solitude where she tried to kill herself the first time?
I have tried to kill myself. I have been there. I know what it is and what it feels like. THAT is giving up. No bullshit about being lost, she was about to give up her life -- not in defence of anyone else, but because she was GIVING UP.

Again, when she did it in S99, she was GIVING UP.


Have you ever tried to commit suicide? Thoroughly?
Have you ever been to the point where it hurts no more because you've gotten to the point where it can't... to the point where you've decided to end it all so you no longer feel it?
That's giving up, and if you or anyone else tells me otherwise, I'll tell you to fuck off because I've been there, I've done that, I've given up.

I only survived through sheer... stupid luck? I don't think that even covers it.
I shouldn't have survived.
I should be dead.
I gave up.
Blackjack did too, she only survived because of an empty barrel.



The song has no time constraint. It doesn't have to be once everything is done and over, because guess what? There never is a 'done and over'!
You live, you die. There's no story to your life, even as a character of a story - if you look at it from their perspective, there is no story... only their life.

The song fits in perfectly for her any time she's feeling miserable and terrible about herself because all the fuck-ups and times she hasn't been able to help everyone because she isn't some all powerful god.

Just because she picks herself up or gets picked up, doesn't mean she doesn't get into it all.



It's all a matter of perspective; when you choose to allocate it and if you're open minded enough to see it as her life, not her story.

[Valikdu]

THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLAANESH
THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW

SOVIET METAL OMFG:

P.S.: VALIKDU ENGAGED FTL LOLK
PPS: hey, The Severing of Friendship and its follow-ups by a differedt author are good to fill in the wait a littgle. just have to get apst thhe subpar grammar, in places.

PPPS

The pegasus pinion press has a peculiar piston problem and the
probability of predicting performance problems is painstaking and
problematic.

Say this ten tiesm fast.

[Kippershy]

And no, I'm not angry at you...

I just...


The whole suicide thing triggers this frustration inside myself, and I get carried away.
I'm not angry at you or your perspective, I just have issues with myself.

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