Re: (PHCC)Minecraft server

[Harmony Ltd.]

What did you gain but constant frustration by staying firm in your position ? Was being right above all other considerations worth all of this ?

Oh well, I suppose this is the end, then.

[Necr0maNceR]

Okay look Tyler I know your trying to help in your own way but quoting the fact that Necro is still making posts even after several posts warning him that I'm not taking this up again until next week...

Tyler is simply expressing his opinion, which is perfectly fine.

It is not your right to postpone this discussion until next week. You are an admin on the sever, not Cloudsville. We are on equal ground here on Cloudsville, and need to treat each other fairly and with respect. I'll admit, one final time, that some of things I said during the beginning of the discussion in this thread were rude. Yet again, I apologize for that. Perhaps I also should have tried sending you a pm first instead of posting in this thread. Given that you just kicked me off of teamspeak, though, in addition to kicking me from the server and closing the server, it seemed unlikely that you would be willing discuss things via personal messaging. I assumed that you would merely respond saying that your actions were justified, and that you would not discuss things further. I also thought that you might simply stonewall me, whether from the very start or after saying you wouldn't discuss things further. Given the way our conversation via personal messaging ended up panning out, it would appear that I was right. I also didn't believe that posting in the thread would get you so upset.

At this point why bother even trying. Th original offense of refusing to obey an admin order was minor compared to the forum posts that followed.

You let the discussion go on for a while before you decided to ban me. If it offended you so greatly, then why did you wait so long? Also, you gave me no warning that you would ban me if the discussion continued in the thread. If you had, I would have continued the discussion via personal messaging. You also could have simply sent me a personal message after I posted in the thread, to get the discussion out of the thread instead of waiting until the point where you felt you needed to ban me. You didn't even try that, though.

The forum posts that followed were not as bad as the first two PM's Necro sent

My first pm was much more civil than my first post in the thread. My second pm was just a copy of the first with a little addition saying that I didn't know if the first one had sent properly, so I was sending another just in case. If you weren't counting that one as my second since it was just a copy, then my third pm was just me telling you to respond since you had yet to respond to my first two messages. I knew you had gotten them since you had posted in the forums since I had sent them. If for some reason you weren't counting that pm either, then my fourth pm was simply me providing the option of finishing the discussion on teamspeak. You didn't read my fifth pm.

Your first two messages, on the other hand, were much worse.

only for necro to calm down some only to swell up again after I told him I was not going to read any PM's until I got a decision out of him at which point he sent still more PM's I have not read followed by the forum post yesterday.

If you didn't read my message, then how do you even know I didn't make a decision? Besides, the second option you gave me was for me to continue to try to discuss things despite everything, which is what I clearly have been doing.

Had he not gone back on the public forums again he would have been unbanned twelve hours ago instead of having another week thrown on instead. With less than ten hours to go he decides to recommit the offense again bring everything back up and try once again to force demands on me.

You stopped responding to my messages, and wouldn't read the one in particular despite the fact I said it was important. You once again tried to cut off communication, and left me no choice but to post in the thread. I even gave you a warning that I would, which is more than you did for me. Besides, once again, if you weren't reading any of my messages at that point, then how would you know if I had agreed to any of your demands?

Also, I didn't "force demands" on you after posting in this thread again. I suggested posting the messages in this thread to clear things up. That is all.

I tell him he has another week because he's still arguing the point....

We have yet to reach a clean resolution. If you hadn't been doing your best to prevent discussion, this would have been resolved ages ago. If you hadn't kicked me from teamspeak in the first place, we could have ended this then and there, and prevented all this "drama" that you hate so much.

And he starts arguing the point some more and starts posting private conversations without asking first.... not that he could ask because he on ignore because he won't let it drop.... at all, he managed four whole days without bringing the issue up again only to ruin it in the final stretch. Speaking of here I am writing another post in public dealing with the situation the exact thing I did not want to deal with this weekend... AGAIN.

I revealed very little regarding the contents of the messages in my first post. Since you weren't willing to discuss things via private messaging, you left me no choice but to bring the discussion here. That said, I revealed as little as I could while still being able to continue the discussion. As far as later when I quoted the options you gave me, you had already been saying that you had given me two options and I wasn't choosing either of them. How am I supposed to defend myself if I can't say what the options are? Besides, you were saying that it was unreasonable that I hadn't chosen one of your options, and if that's really the case, then wouldn't posting what the options were only help to prove your point?

Besides, you're right. I couldn't send you a pm asking permission because you blocked me.

I can't ruin something that was already in a state of ruin and has yet to be properly fixed. Once again, you wouldn't have to be dealing with this right now if you simply hadn't kicked me from teamspeak in the first place. Also, why won't you agree to posting all of the personal messages in this thread? The way you were talking, you made it sound like I was acting like a jerk and being unreasonable in the messages. If you really believe that, then wouldn't posting the messages here only serve to prove your point?

Necromancer has made his point, he has no idea why I banned him, he has no idea why I keep extending the ban... and he is fundamentally unable to grasp why I keep extending the ban.

As I said numerous times already, I know why you banned me, I just don't agree with it. I was also well aware that this discussion would likely lead to my ban being extended, or simply made permanent. The point is, as I said earlier, I don't want to play on a minecraft server with an unreasonable admin. If I had just left things as they were after you banned me, than some new thing would have occurred eventually, and all the additional things I would have accomplished would have been wasted. Even if that didn't happen, you would still be unreasonable and probably abusive, and simply take the fun out of playing. My original response to you banning me was to simply not come back. It wasn't until Harmony posted that I changed my mind. You see, the opportunity to play on a Minecraft server in and of itself is not a good enough of a reason to stay and try to deal with you. If it stops being fun, then there is no reason to stay. What I've built and acquired on the server means nothing in the grand scheme of things, and I'd have to be crazy to stay just for it. The reason I've been playing, and the reason why I'd bother to try to resolve things with you is because I've had fun playing and talking with all the new friends I've made on the server. I don't want to lose that.

So I'm done, I've spent close to nine hours posting about this issue. I shall not waste another minute on it. I will not make another post on this subject, I will not respond to any PM about this subject. If you bring it up on TS I will not acknowledge it. The day the server is more work that fun is the day I take the server down, upload a copy of the world folder to box and move on with my life.

Are you seriously saying that you would abandon the server over something like this? As I've said already, you're the one that caused this to drag out. We could have resolved this on teamspeak at the very beginning, or when I later offered to finish the discussion there if you unbanned me from it temporarily. You've had plenty of opportunities to reach a reasonable conclusion, but you keep avoiding discussion. You say you hate "drama" as you put it, but sometimes the best way to deal with drama is to face it head on, instead of hiding from it. You're the one who let this grow into what it is.

Harmony brings up an interesting point. You've already proven how much you won't stand people disobeying you, and how much you hate the fact I posted in the forums. You have nothing left to prove. Unbanning me now would put an end to this. I'm not a griefer, I don't steal from players, I don't cause mischief, and all I've made has only added to the fun of the server. I'm a good player. You've already proven how you respond to people disobeying you, so I know not to say no to your "admin directive" in the future. At this point keeping me banned only serves to cause more drama and to make you look bad. Also as Harmony said earlier, I was one of the most active players on the server. Losing me would be a great loss for everyone. Especially since I probably cared the most other than you about building Hoofington.

[tylertoon2]

So because of idiocy on my part, I died, not once, but twice. In the end, loosing all of my gear. Why I even went there confounds me.

[Cptadder]

So because of idiocy on my part, I died, not once, but twice. In the end, loosing all of my gear. Why I even went there confounds me.

Where did you go?

[Ironmonger]

So because of idiocy on my part, I died, not once, but twice. In the end, loosing all of my gear. Why I even went there confounds me.

Where did you go?

He went to The End. Turned into a brief series of shenanigans. He ended up getting kicked for flying because I grabbed him with the gravity gun.

[tylertoon2]

For some reason I cannot craft longfall boots.

Also anyone know where I can find an axe of the stream.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Longfall boots? search the bank, there should be some there, at least last I checked (literally weeks ago).

[Cptadder]

Longfall boots? search the bank, there should be some there, at least last I checked (literally weeks ago).

There is about three pairs of longfall boots in the random chests on the 2nd floor of the Bunker.

[Ironmonger]

I declare this the war horn of the Iron Kingdom.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Horn ? You call that a horn ?

I call this a horn worthy of Stable Tec

[tylertoon2]

Sometime we all need to get on teamspeak and sort all this stuff out, I know "No Posting about this" Is still in effect.

Spoiler:

[Ironmonger]

Yo, Tyler, I had an idea. I've been tinkering with soul shards and I thought that, with your permission, I could replace the spawners with soul cages. Adder said I should talk to you about it.
EDIT: Arena spawners.

[Ironmonger]

When I play, FTB has been giving me errors saying 'Read Timed Out'. It's been doing this for the past few days. I can play, but it keeps kicking me off, and a lot of stuff lags like hell.

[Ironmonger]

I have the redstone system in place and one of the soul cages set up in the arena, but there is one problem; The cage does not respond to the redstone signal like it's supposed to. I don't know why.

EDIT: The problem is solved, I just started using Tier 4 cages.

Word of Caution: There is a Tier 5 Zombie Pigman cage in the arena now, the door to its cage is open, and I'm having some trouble getting rid of it. Be careful. Yes, I screwed up, but now I'm owning up to it.

[Ironmonger]

Anyone else noticing some horrendous lag when entering Bunker Alpha, lately?

EDIT: I'm going through and seeing what items don't work. Recently, I'm noticing that stuff from Xeno's Reliquary won't craft properly. What happens is that the items will be crafted and briefly appear in your inventory, but just as quickly disappears back into the crafting grid like it was never even made. For the sake of my own sanity I checked to see if we have that mod, and according to my client we do (Unless I'm going full re-re and doing it wrong). So, yeah. What fuck the.

[tylertoon2]

Anyone else noticing some horrendous lag when entering Bunker Alpha, lately?

EDIT: I'm going through and seeing what items don't work. Recently, I'm noticing that stuff from Xeno's Reliquary won't craft properly. What happens is that the items will be crafted and briefly appear in your inventory, but just as quickly disappears back into the crafting grid like it was never even made. For the sake of my own sanity I checked to see if we have that mod, and according to my client we do (Unless I'm going full re-re and doing it wrong). So, yeah. What fuck the.

That was the same problem I was having with the Portal Mod

[Cptadder]

Server is down this week for the (hopeful) update to 1.51 and switching to the ultimate pack. Everyone is tired of messing around with my half arsed solution I know and aside from Iron and Tyler no one's logging in this week.

Also gives me some time to get some MCedit time in to correct the lag issues (Turns out filters left to filter enough become duplicaters) so I need to delete the two filters which created between them seven billion obsidian.

[Ironmonger]

Well, I botched my computer again (I'm a little inept with tech sometimes), so I might not be on for a while.

[tylertoon2]

Server is down this week for the (hopeful) update to 1.51 and switching to the ultimate pack. Everyone is tired of messing around with my half arsed solution I know and aside from Iron and Tyler no one's logging in this week.

Also gives me some time to get some MCedit time in to correct the lag issues (Turns out filters left to filter enough become duplicaters) so I need to delete the two filters which created between them seven billion obsidian.

How's the server coming along adder?

[Cptadder]

Server is fine, just waiting on the next FTB update to go to 1.5 so I can update the server and get it running.

[Moodyman90]

I was gonna say I need to stop by the server again since I haven't been there in... months.

Then I remembered that ya'll have those mods installed and me being a lazy person that I am never got around to getting them.

[tylertoon2]

I was gonna say I need to stop by the server again since I haven't been there in... months.

Then I remembered that ya'll have those mods installed and me being a lazy person that I am never got around to getting them.

Servers down until said mods update sooo...

Yeah but I'd love to see ya back, once it updates we will be able to use a much simpler mod pack to suit our needs.

[Apple Crumble]

Is there a white list for you to join? Can I jump in t3h bandwagon?

[Harmony Ltd.]

No white list, everyone can join. The server's ip address is in CptAdder's signature.

[Cptadder]

You can but the server is currently down until Feed the Beast update to 1.5

[Cptadder]

So we finally got an update, FTB is staying on 1.47 until 1.6 it seems because of Redpower2. Whenever the update happens I'll rebuild the mod files test and confirm it then get the server back up. Messing with the Adder pack was simply to much time for me.

[Harmony Ltd.]

I get Eloraam works really hard on her stuff and is kind of a perfectionnist, and that, well, she's just a modder things for her own fun, but seriously... That's getting a bit ridiculous.

RedPower is the major mod always holding back the whole thing every time a new major update of Minecraft come out.

[tylertoon2]

Anyone else up for invading another server till it updates?

[Cptadder]

So Feed the Beast updated last week as you know. As did the Ultimate pack, now the pack is on 1.02 which was released Thursday. So what am I doing now?

Why I have the server open and I'm converting it over to the ultimate pack.

[Cptadder]

The good news is my current edit of the world loaded great.
The bad news is, MC edit corrupted like 2/3rds of the world.
Looks like the transition to FTB will be nice and easy once I get the edits down.

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