Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[Downloaded Skill]

I think the tricky thing about stats like those is applying those stats in a way where the flaws actually impact the story. Charisma is defined by the wiki as "A combination of appearance and charm" and "A high Charisma is important for characters that want to influence people with words". So your character should have a lack of tact and diminished social skills. However your character has a high intelligence. I think your character can persuade people with logical thinking, like spelling out the negatives of a plan, but can't haggle down the price of a rifle to save his life.

Charisma doesn't determine if you have primitive speech, but with the high int maybe you can elevate his language in a way that would make him kind of stand offish? Maybe make him technical and clinical. Also make sure to make references to his low luck. If he comes across an energy weapon have someone else fire it and it works fine, but explodes when he uses it; or have him get cleaned out whenever he gambles.

[Guest]

Re: my previous post
Mind you, this may all just be the DM in me who loves punishing extreme min-maxing players by showing how utterly dysfunctional their characters would be in anything approaching a normal situation because they made something a massive dump stat. =P

@Downloaded
Standoffish is like a 4 in charisma though, or maybe a 3. 1 is the minimum possible level of charisma for a human (or pony, in this case). With a 1, it shouldn't matter how logical he is when explaining something; he just doesn't understand how other ponies work, or what motivates them. He doesn't just lack charm, he actively sabotages himself every time he opens his mouth. Or is seen, even, since body language is an important part of manipulation. (also, like swicked says, if appearance is factored in, he's gonna be inspiring reactions not unlike those of the loser of a fight to the pain)

Anyway, I should probably be shutting up now because this is very, very far from how I do character creation anyway, so I doubt I'm contributing much of substance.

[Downloaded Skill]

I have made a mistake. I thought the stats Tylertoon posted were the stats we were discussing. I just saw the stats Iron Fury posted and I don't think that will work. Luck 0 is okay, that can be very humorous or played for drama, but CH 1 will be very hard to do. I'm not even sure how that would be represented outside of mental handicaps or an extremely sheltered life. I like Swicked's idea of keeping his vocabulary military themed, but I think that would require at least CH 3.

[Nightfire]

Looking for volunteers to edit a prologue, anybody want to?

[Downloaded Skill]

Re: my previous post
Mind you, this may all just be the DM in me who loves punishing extreme min-maxing players by showing how utterly dysfunctional their characters would be in anything approaching a normal situation because they made something a massive dump stat. =P

@Downloaded
Standoffish is like a 4 in charisma though, or maybe a 3. 1 is the minimum possible level of charisma for a human (or pony, in this case). With a 1, it shouldn't matter how logical he is when explaining something; he just doesn't understand how other ponies work, or what motivates them. He doesn't just lack charm, he actively sabotages himself every time he opens his mouth. Or is seen, even, since body language is an important part of manipulation. (also, like swicked says, if appearance is factored in, he's gonna be inspiring reactions not unlike those of the loser of a fight to the pain)

Anyway, I should probably be shutting up now because this is very, very far from how I do character creation anyway, so I doubt I'm contributing much of substance.

Sorta like how INT 1-3 means you have to play a "dumb" game, I'd think CHA 1-3 would be the only range with penalties like this. 4 is just one below average, after all; I doubt you could tell the difference.

Eh still even with CH 4 a person shouldn't be able to the more complex speech checks, like convincing / manipulating Legate Lanius to leave by lying that other factions want him out of power and that he should focus on those first. However, even though this character's CH is low, he might be able to persuade with intelligent, logical arguments. For example, he might convince Lanius to leave because his army won't be able to sustain itself because of their pillaging ways and the west relies on trade. Even though the barter option is governed by CH in game, this understanding of economics requires a fair deal of intelligence to understand completely. So you might be able to comp for a CH of 4 by having an int of 7, but this won't work in every social situation.

Maybe I'm just a stickler for flaws, but I hate how some people write their characters with a deficiency in some way but don't give it any bearing on the character or the plot as a whole.

[Cptadder]

Discussion time, first off I've combined several of Elexius posts into one

*Combo post mode activated*
Would you consider a Zebracornling, my OC, overpowered? (Zebra, Unicorn, Changeling.) I can provide a partial back-story if you want one.

I can provide a true explanation for my OC when I get to a computer. Nooks are quite hard to type on.
Zonies are fanon canon, therefore, Zebracorns are possible.[/quote]
First off, I take the party line, we all hate your Alicorn OC, but since it's not a Alicorn that does not apply but I'll say this, once you mix more than two things together you start to get serious trouble as for as reader plausibility goes.
Not to say you can't throw some stuff in the Mad Science Bin and get out a Zebracornling (May I suggest Zunling?) and knock yourself out.
However Zony's are not fanon, they biologically exist in the real world. You are correct however if a Pony can breed with a Unicorn or Pegasus then a Zebra cross breed is not impossible since they are biologically similar enough Zony's, Zebracorns and Zegasues are all biologically possible.

Throw Changelings in there and you start running into issues, nothing Mad Science can't fix but something that standard biology would run screaming from.

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The problem is that none of those reasons address why the SS would get approved in the first place. The existence of just one of these planes would catalyze Equestria to develop countermeasures, and those countermeasures would, when implemented, probably once and for all lose the air war for the Zebras. That means that the war would have to be won by the Zebras before that happened, and there's no way that the number of SS they could build could do that. Combined with the amount of normal materiel or possibly more effective superweapons that could be built with the resources that would otherwise go into the SS, it just doesn't seem to make sense to approve anything more than the construction of a prototype, and I doubt that they'd even go that far.

Your assuming Zebra General Staff ominousness about being able to look at the SS, think up what the counter will be and then develop said counter and get into action before the war is over. The Zebra General Staff could know laser defenses with powerful and accurate enough targeting talismans would give the Ponies complete air dominance.

So that's your first assumption that those approving the project would instantly see the downside and not approve the project because of it.
Your second assumption that this would not in fact be a favorable outcome. Think about it, those new talismans would go both ways, if the ponies made them then the Zebra's could steal them and once they have stolen them, they have no need for the SS as anything not a Thunderhead is going to be burned from the sky.
Your third assumption is having a ready made secondary super weapon design alternative to go with instead of the SS.

You can make said assumptions of course, this is head canon after all.

I think charisma of 1 would be more like a heavy autistic, and he has to be capable of communication to of been raised as a warrior.

...might be a good idea to have his charisma be 3, though, as 1 might be too low to be understandable by anyone that doesn't know him really, really well already.

Charisma is not just about looks it's also about social norms. You can get a good looking individual who has a voice that could break glass or a face you instantly want to punch. Ever see the kid who plays King Joffery on Game of Thrones? He's got a face like the kid who played Draco Malfroy in Harry Potter, you instantly want to punch him right in his smug face even if both of them are lovely people in real life the instant either one of them smirks you want to punch them.

Rule of thumb, don't go below a 3 in any stat when making a character as 1 is in the SPECIAL system that Fallout uses a functional cripple in whatever skill. Charisma 1 would mean heavily autistic with certain physical features that inspire disgust in people. The most common example are a stilted walk that looks unnatural, lazy or wandering eyes (Not like Derpy's eyes but like can't look someone in the eyes), or the big grouping of nervous ticks or involuntary movements.

Charisma 1 means you've put someone off before you've even opened your mouth to say anything. It does not have to apply great physical deformities, it could simply be the entire package
Example Charisma 1
Itcan't walk a line, when it looks at ponies it tends to be slightly slack jawed and won't meet anyone eyes. It has a nervous twinge of the mouth that most find distracting. It tends to repeat itself often and talks only in a stream of consciousness. It seems unable to hear or acknowledge anyone else when it is talking and will talk over and through others when they attempt to speak. It's appearance is unkempt and it's grooming habits are non-existent. It is not ugly or malformed because of it's lack of grooming and distinct unfamiliarity with hygienic practices leave most ponies to shun it by default assuming the twitching, drooling and smell belongs to sick pony. It should be noted however that it's breath is surprisingly minty fresh even if it's teeth are brown when they are not black.

There that's a Charisma 1 pony that can still function but is so many small things piled atop another as to make it very unattractive. It smells, it twitches, it slurs, it talks over you and it won't meet your eyes.

[Ironmonger]

Guys, CH1 has been up for about a month. Link is in my signature. *facepalm* You guys made me feel rather proud of myself by saying how good of a character he is (I know at least one or two of you did bear with me) but he does need work. I'll likely have to factor perks into this as well to even him out.

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

I think the tricky thing about stats like those is applying those stats in a way where the flaws actually impact the story. Charisma is defined by the wiki as "A combination of appearance and charm" and "A high Charisma is important for characters that want to influence people with words". So your character should have a lack of tact and diminished social skills. However your character has a high intelligence. I think your character can persuade people with logical thinking, like spelling out the negatives of a plan, but can't haggle down the price of a rifle to save his life.

Charisma doesn't determine if you have primitive speech, but with the high int maybe you can elevate his language in a way that would make him kind of stand offish? Maybe make him technical and clinical. Also make sure to make references to his low luck. If he comes across an energy weapon have someone else fire it and it works fine, but explodes when he uses it; or have him get cleaned out whenever he gambles.

thank you Downloaded this is what I was thinking but couldn't articulate, make him like arcade gannon?

[Meleagridis]

I'm taking this shit pretty damn seriously because if it works well, I'd want to also transition it to be pony-less. It's a very difficult task as I'm trying to strive for originality among the fics.

Can't express strong enough interest. When you say pony-less, I'm assuming you pull out the FiM bits, yeah? Is there some evil purpose for this? Gonna trick someone into reading it and then spilling the origin beans or something? Or just want to put it somewhere that won't take horses?

@Ironmonger
Lil' Miss Rarity. Lumpy Space Princess

LSP LMR and LSP together

I will pay you.
Both of you.
Everything.

Zebracornlings

This made my brain cogs think and then words came out. Then I had to go to work. Then I finished the last few paragraphs. Damn thing almost made me late.

I miss my word documents:

[Guest]

@Iron
Whoops, when I said CH1 I meant Charisma 1, not Chapter 1. Sorry for causing confusion!

[Downloaded Skill]

I think the tricky thing about stats like those is applying those stats in a way where the flaws actually impact the story. Charisma is defined by the wiki as "A combination of appearance and charm" and "A high Charisma is important for characters that want to influence people with words". So your character should have a lack of tact and diminished social skills. However your character has a high intelligence. I think your character can persuade people with logical thinking, like spelling out the negatives of a plan, but can't haggle down the price of a rifle to save his life.

Charisma doesn't determine if you have primitive speech, but with the high int maybe you can elevate his language in a way that would make him kind of stand offish? Maybe make him technical and clinical. Also make sure to make references to his low luck. If he comes across an energy weapon have someone else fire it and it works fine, but explodes when he uses it; or have him get cleaned out whenever he gambles.

thank you Downloaded this is what I was thinking but couldn't articulate, make him like arcade gannon?

Something like that, yeah.

[Ironmonger]

@Cobalt You guys are going to make me have a fucking aneurysm I swear. XD I have a new stat chart for him: 10-4-5-4-8-9-0

[Ironmonger]

@Cobalt You guys are going to make me have a fucking aneurysm I swear. XD I have a new stat chart for him: 10-4-5-4-8-9-0

You could just give him the gifted trait so that all your combat-related skills can stay high without your dump stats being too crazy low. Besides, I still think 3 would be acceptable for charisma.

You get a brohoof civvie.

[Downloaded Skill]

I'm curious as to how you're going to integrate Gifted into the story. I'm a stickler for flaws though so take from me what you will, but I think if you're going to take the Gifted trait I think you should factor in the skills penalty into the character somehow. Turn him into a combat specialist or something like that. He can't really afford to be a jack of all trades being able to pick locks, hack, and heal because he has less points to work with. Dumping all your points into 3 tag skills and leaving the technical stuff to other people would make sense, to me at least.

[Ironmonger]

I'm curious as to how you're going to integrate Gifted into the story. I'm a stickler for flaws though so take from me what you will, but I think if you're going to take the Gifted trait I think you should factor in the skills penalty into the character somehow. Turn him into a combat specialist or something like that. He can't really afford to be a jack of all trades being able to pick locks, hack, and heal because he has less points to work with. Dumping all your points into 3 tag skills and leaving the technical stuff to other people would make sense, to me at least.

Read my mind mate. Iron Fury is a combat specialist and a damn good commander, but he doesn't know much about technology beyond armor and firearms. Sonar is the squad's technician pegasus, self-taught, and the son of two Enclave officers. Kralle handles stealth, and being a griffon, acts as a heavy flier. Armatus is a cybertaur (guess what the root words of THAT are) and acts as heavy weapons. No human or pony can handle everything, you only live so long and you can only learn so much before you die.

[OneMoreDaySK]

@Ironmonger
Lil' Miss Rarity. Lumpy Space Princess

LSP LMR and LSP together

I will pay you.
Both of you.
Everything.

Welcome to my brain X)

*yawns*
Planning on going through the major episodes, and screencapping and isolating LSP. Eventually. Again, homework takes priority. Heck, I still need to write a scholarship thank you letter. Any tips?

[WovenTales]

This might have something to do with just finishing a couple episodes, but maybe think a more combat-oriented Sheldon (from The Big Bang Theory). Partially doesn't get interpersonal interactions, partially doesn't care, and consistently rubs people the wrong way even when he's trying to be nice. Maybe (as tylertoon suggested) throw him through a meat grinder, and you can probably get a realistic 2 Cha—potentially even the 1 if you really play things up. Luck of zero is a bit harder. That is the area where you get into things like a gun firing backwards and blowing apart his face; physics is pretty much going to bend to hurt him. I'd say that three would be what we'd consider "amazingly unlucky," at two he'd act like a broad-spectrum gremlin, and one is rather harmful while still not being within the realm of possibility.
EDIT:Now that I've caught up, this is a bit less relevant. Sorry!

As for the zebracorn-changeling, I'd say that it's possible assuming ponies and changelings are compatible. Two of the species are going to have less of an effect (grandparent-level), and from the picture I'd say he'd probably be half-pony and a quarter each zebra and changeling, though that has him born close to the beginning of the war. His heritage doesn't inherently make him OP, but you will have to be more careful with characterization than otherwise. Basically, if one part of an OC pushes the bounds of believability, he or she should otherwise feel quite real. I will also agree with Sindri: don't make his race his defining feature. Give him some strong goals, beliefs, or values so that he is not built around his genes; you want to be able to answer the question "Who is he?" without any reference to physical characteristics.
I'm not saying you have to come up with a personality before figuring out what an OC looks like (there have been plenty of times when I want a particular role, for example a griffon), but be sure to build onto it quickly. And once you do have a personality, try to think of him or her in terms of that rather than "the pegasus"

[Ironmonger]

Giving Iron Fury the gifted perk brings him to this: 10-6-6-5-9-10-1 For starting traits I'd give him Gifted as swicked suggested, and Sex Appeal for humour.

[Caoimhe]

I'm taking this shit pretty damn seriously because if it works well, I'd want to also transition it to be pony-less. It's a very difficult task as I'm trying to strive for originality among the fics.

Can't express strong enough interest. When you say pony-less, I'm assuming you pull out the FiM bits, yeah? Is there some evil purpose for this? Gonna trick someone into reading it and then spilling the origin beans or something? Or just want to put it somewhere that won't take horses?

If by some chance I happen to write the Great American Novel I would love to be able to change things relatively easily to remove copyrighted material. Probably just change the overall species (and call it furry, hurr), rename a few things. Pray that I don't get beat up too much. Ehh.

[O. Hinds]

So that's your first assumption that those approving the project would instantly see the downside and not approve the project because of it.

Not instantly, but something so bleeding-edge and with this price tag isn't going to be approved instantly, either. The review process might be hastened by the war, but, if the two of us can think of it in less than a month of on-and-off idle speculation and discussion, I doubt that a dedicated military review board would completely overlook the idea.

Your second assumption that this would not in fact be a favorable outcome. Think about it, those new talismans would go both ways, if the ponies made them then the Zebra's could steal them and once they have stolen them, they have no need for the SS as anything not a Thunderhead is going to be burned from the sky.

Eh… While I like this idea (and was quite keen on it before I thought about it more deeply), there are some problems. First, stealing the design would be difficult. Not that the Zebras couldn't do it, I expect, but there would be a delay between the time Equestria began production and the time the Zebras did. Second, Equestria can build these much more easily and cheaply than the Zebras can due to the gem components. The upshot is, I think, that Equestria would still take a quite significant quantity of strategic territory before an equilibrium with the new Zebra AA based on the stolen design was reached. That's a loss that the Zebras can ill afford, particularly since said territory would likely contain most or all of the land-based missile launch sites in range of Equestria. edit: Nevermind that last bit; it turns out that I misremembered some figures. However, while a SACII could in theory hit Canterlot if fired from Roam, both increased distance and the resultant increased travel time and decreased maneuvering time would increase the probability of a miss or interception.

Your third assumption is having a ready made secondary super weapon design alternative to go with instead of the SS.

Hm? There's no superweapon design to fill the same niche, unfortunately, but filling that niche at all is risky unless it's filled well enough. The non-SS plan is "Well, we'll keep doing what we've been doing," ie lots of conventional fighters.

[OneMoreDaySK]

Hey CptAdder, what'cha playing as in Torchlight II? Still can't get on the downed servers, but I got's an Engie named CharlesDeFlores with a pet wolf named Professor G6. Smashing everything with a hamma! For everything else, run away, amass an army of spider mines, and baneling rush everthing else.

/notdoinghomework

[Cptadder]

Hey CptAdder, what'cha playing as in Torchlight II? Still can't get on the downed servers, but I got's an Engie named CharlesDeFlores with a pet wolf named Professor G6. Smashing everything with a hamma! For everything else, run away, amass an army of spider mines, and baneling rush everthing else.

/notdoinghomework

I'm playing as a canon wielding engineer Geary with my faithful Ferret Winston, currently at 17 doing the same thing, spider mines, heal bots and a railgun to stomp everything.

Can't wait till I get mah sentry.
Anyone else playing Torchlight? Thinking of starting a Ember mage or Berserker to play with other people.

[Kippershy]

@CH-1
She wouldn't say yes, though. Technically speaking, with a charisma of 1, he probably shouldn't be able to form linguistic thoughts. Charisma, IMO, is about manipulation and expression even more than looks. With it at 1, that indicates serious mental handicaps. We're talking eats-his-own-shit psychotic, someone who makes cannibal raiders seems rational. He can be a genius, in his way, but realistically speaking he should be exceptionally limited mentally by this. In a game, it'd work, but for a character, his thoughts - assuming he even has thoughts as we know them, since it's probable he would never develop language (sort of like a "feral child") - would be utterly alien to most readers.

Again, just my read of the situation.

My thoughts would be that if the character has high intelligence yet low charisma, it would be akin to higher functioning autism.
No, I'm not trying to be an asshole to anyone here, hear me out:

Higher functioning autists often have something specific to their interests that compels them, they learn about it to excessive degrees and practically know every little thing about whatever it is they find interesting above all else.
However, the way they communicate those thoughts is lacking, if they try at all.
Sometimes they'll never bother try speaking, preferring to live a life of a mute.
Other times they can speak, but often aggravate themselves in their inability to explain what they mean.

Anyway, that sounds a lot like low charisma high intelligence, to me.

[Kippershy]

Speaking of all this SPECIAL stats stuff, I want to see what you lot think of this set-up.
Katarn might be able to figure out who it's for, but I doubt anyone else could.

S10 P7 E10 C2 I4 A3 L5

[Ironmonger]

@Kipper
Makes me think of a WW2-era machine gunner that is also a GentleGiant but kinda stupid. Like the squad's "little brother" even though he isn't.
Unrelated: Today I learned that one of my doctors grew up with Mark Sullivan, director of the secret service.

[Cptadder]

Speaking of all this SPECIAL stats stuff, I want to see what you lot think of this set-up.
Katarn might be able to figure out who it's for, but I doubt anyone else could.

S10 P7 E10 C2 I4 A3 L5

Strength 10
So this person has the strength of a weight lifter, pro-wrestler or NFL linebacker, big guy

Perception 7
Excellent vision, hearing, taste, touch and smell but not legendary, perhaps only one or two very accurate senses and several simply better.

Endurance 10
Strength 10 and Endurance 10 spring to mind only Pro-Wrestler. Those people who are made out of muscle and have muscles on their muscles with limbs the size of other peoples heads.

Charisma 2
Ugly, smelly, rude, autistic or off putting. So they are a masked pro-wrestler least their face scare small children

Intelligence 4
Slightly dumber than average, maybe a blindspot or two, perfect for a wrestler who's taken to many knocks to the head

Agility 3
All that muscle does not leave one well suited for a career as a Ballerina

Luck 5
Average

So this set of specials brings to mind someone like Andrea the Giant or... El Santo. Except both of them were very charismatic, and El Santo was well known for being Agile despite his size and a litter smarter than average. But the lack of Charisma argues against a wrestler so this is an NFL Linebacker, blessed with genetics to turn him or her into a mountain of amazing physicality. However while it's an impressive hunk of meat it's held back by poor presentation and being a little clumsy.

Right back at you, what kind of picture does this SPECIAL array conjure up.

S4 P8 E4 C7 I7 A6 L5

[Ironmonger]

@Cptadder Now that setup sounds like my OC Sonar.

[Katarn]

@Kipp
That's easy...but I won't spoil who that is =P

[Ironmonger]

@Swicked I had planned to write a MLP/Adventure Time fic yesterday. ^_^ Might get my colleague to help.

[Kippershy]

Speaking of all this SPECIAL stats stuff, I want to see what you lot think of this set-up.
Katarn might be able to figure out who it's for, but I doubt anyone else could.

S10 P7 E10 C2 I4 A3 L5

Strength 10
So this person has the strength of a weight lifter, pro-wrestler or NFL linebacker, big guy

Perception 7
Excellent vision, hearing, taste, touch and smell but not legendary, perhaps only one or two very accurate senses and several simply better.

Endurance 10
Strength 10 and Endurance 10 spring to mind only Pro-Wrestler. Those people who are made out of muscle and have muscles on their muscles with limbs the size of other peoples heads.

Charisma 2
Ugly, smelly, rude, autistic or off putting. So they are a masked pro-wrestler least their face scare small children

Intelligence 4
Slightly dumber than average, maybe a blindspot or two, perfect for a wrestler who's taken to many knocks to the head

Agility 3
All that muscle does not leave one well suited for a career as a Ballerina

Luck 5
Average

So this set of specials brings to mind someone like Andrea the Giant or... El Santo. Except both of them were very charismatic, and El Santo was well known for being Agile despite his size and a litter smarter than average. But the lack of Charisma argues against a wrestler so this is an NFL Linebacker, blessed with genetics to turn him or her into a mountain of amazing physicality. However while it's an impressive hunk of meat it's held back by poor presentation and being a little clumsy.

Right back at you, what kind of picture does this SPECIAL array conjure up.

S4 P8 E4 C7 I7 A6 L5

Strength 4 to me says not that much weaker then average, but more towards them perhaps having a bad shoulder/knee/leg which limits their weight/strength capability.
Someone who has had an accident most likely, though they could be a naturally small frame.

Perception 8 then argues that no, rather than being experienced with some kind of experienced veteran whose seen some shit and thus had something to weaken them, they're a small frame as it is. They rely on their keen perception to avoid being active prey by being out of the danger zone before they're even noticed.

Endurance 4 makes me think again, small frame. They're not a fighter though they could handle themselves if they were pushed to do so, but not for long. Against a large foe, this person would be forced to outwit the enemy or rely on speed to avoid attacks and preferably, get out of the area.

Charisma 7 speaks to me of a smooth talking, good looking, somewhat intelligent person. Rather than getting into fights in the first place, this person is highly likely to talk their way out of them. They might offer something they have -- be it material or information, or they might offer their help to whomever may threaten them.

Intelligence 7 only confirms the previous thought about the charisma being reliant on intelligence too. Though they're very likeable by pure nature, they also have the intellect to come up with logical plans and again, will use this ability to avoid fights rather then win them.
"Why take down Goliath when you can simply skirt around him? There's a hidden path here and it'll mean that he wont see me, so it seems a good idea, as long as I'm quiet I wont get noticed!"

Agility 6 again, small frame. This person definitely isn't a fighter, they prefer to pick locks and hack terminals to putting themselves in the line of fire. If they can convince a robot or turret to defend them, they will. If they can outrun the opponent, which they can in most cases, they will. If they can hide in the shadows and wait for the opponent to leave, they will. Their natural talent lies in their reaction speed and ability to get out of dodge when needed, using their perception and intelligence to know when the best time to do that is.

Luck 5 is average. Nothing special, nothing horrible either.




Who are they? Well, most likely, some form of merchant or in a job where speaking plays a large role. They're not the hardened merc and they never will be, but they're fine with that because that's not who they want to be anyway, even if they may have the occasional fantasy of being the saviour of all ponykind.

Ponies of note who these stats remind me of, would be P-21 (lowered strength & endurance from busted leg, heightened perception from living in a hostile environment all his life, his natural charisma is pretty strong -- perhaps why the Overmare chose him as her play toy in the first place, he's damn intelligent and understands a lot of things -- even if he doesn't talk in depth about them, agility 6 would suit his stealth capabilities, even with his busted leg. Luck 5 because while he WAS lucky to make it out of the Stable alive, he was unlucky in getting a harsh ride all the way through. Really, he gets moments of high and low luck in equal measure.)

AND, perhaps (I've only read half of chapter 1) Murky (MN7).




As for your analysis -- you hit the nail on the head, pretty much. Even to the wrestler part, something I was (and still am) considering making him in his free time. Would suit him just fine.

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