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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Vexd Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:02 pm
70 is out? The curse has been lifted! (hopefully)
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- Kinda of makes me wonder if, when she takes out Cognitum, will she hang onto Trottenheimer's Folly, or destroy it in some manner for good
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Scienza Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:05 pm
Maybe she'll use it as a cup-holder or something.Vexd wrote:70 is out? The curse has been lifted! (hopefully)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Vinylshadow Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:22 pm
Scienza wrote:Vinylshadow wrote:I'll probably read 70 later, once its been edited through and through
Really dislike reading through unedited work...and even then, I'm probably going to find one or two mistakes that other people have missed and then never point them out
...because as amazing as Hinds, Swicked, Bronode, and Heartshine are, they are still (probably) human, so occasionally a few minor errors slip through the cracks.
Exactly
Besides, I have other stories to read, anime to watch and OCs to torture with my poor writing skills
Plus, people keep telling me to read slower, so I'm also trying to do that...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Scienza Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:33 pm
I'm not disputing that there are minor grammatical errors, I'm taking issue with your statement that the chapter is "unedited", since you're basically discounting the weeks of labor that the writing team put into polishing the chapter.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:50 pm
It's case of diminishing returns I think. After reading the chapter just once I find myself only half reading other poster's editing notes and sometimes missing those mistakes. It's got to be many times worse reading the same chapter multiple times in a row in an attempt to find errors that may not even be there.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:29 pm
I still think that it's pretty clear; sorry.JadedPony wrote:"Let's not anypony do anything they're going to regret." sounds like an attempt at southern accent. It's unclear who was saying it. Could be the NPCs, could be Blackjack. An indicator of who is saying it might be helpful. I assumed Blackjack since it was more than 5 words, none of which were scientific, bondage related, or about the Enclave so that left out Glory and didn't include any glaring/brooding so that left out P-21.
Huh. So it does. Weird. Well, it's fixed now; thanks.JadedPony wrote:For some reason the phrase: "had more than enough force to liquify us." has this weird white highlighting.
Ah, thank you… though I'm not sure why you identified these as being from Chapter 63.Dekshuduph wrote:
- 63 edits:
Blackjack'sStupid People's Comments Fee.”'frowns' should be 'smiles', by way of context, or I'm misunderstanding this?Some scowled. Others smiled. I guess it depended on how much pain I'd caused or spared. I'd like to think that I saw more frowns than scowls, but I couldn't be sure.Comma?She, pulled the hat off and arched a brow as she eyed me suspiciously.Fins?[...]dropping her eyes to the brown water as [Pisces] tapped her hooves together.'to'[...]but the Security he prayed too couldn't care less if he lived or died.Speech carries between paragraphs, ending quotation marks"Then kill that cybermare. The Legate. The whole damn Hoof. Kill em all!"
"And Blackjack, if you're listening to this, I'll be waiting for you!"'it'She reached down and seized a combat knife that had fallen on the floor and turned in towards herself.If the second part is also a thought, shouldn't it be italicized?Face the battle in front of you, Blackjack, I thought, and make sure the world gets a chance for those battles tomorrow.(Manually bolded to highlight) Capitalization of 'bro'.“Yeah, yeah. No doubt. But you got to be thinking about things after the mission, bro. Cause if you’re smart, you’ll make sure that you’re the only pony that walks out of that bunker. Things are gonna change around here, Bro, and you can’t be thinking with your dick over some mare that doesn’t give a fuck about you,” Toaster said with a dark chuckle.
That's deliberate, yes. Much as I dislike breaking the format, none of us could think of anything really good to do with them.Dekshuduph wrote:Also, there's been no footnote at the end of each chapter before the Author's Notes twice. Is that a deliberate style choice? Because I've not seen any mention about it.
Frowns indicate less dislike of her than scowls do.Dekshuduph wrote:'frowns' should be 'smiles', by way of context, or I'm misunderstanding this?
Ah, thank you.Icy Shake wrote:Okay, so, nice that it came out on not-Sunday night. Let's see what we have here . . .
- Chapter Seventy Running Thoughts:
Okay, that's new-ish. Fallout 3/NV? I don't recognize this.
Smarter, better-trained ponies were on the job. All that remained for me was to maximize our chances, get what I needed, and focus on finishing off Cognitum and stopping Horizons from killing us all.
Well, that's some "all," but yeah, you're not the best choice for this, having never been in charge of more than about a dozen people at once. A little more at the end of Hightower, but many of them basically all got the same direction which amounted to getting out. And the Society, but you ditched that as soon as you got it.
I found myself smiling as if a great burden had been lifted from my back. Just like that, the important ponies took it from me and I was left almost forgotten.
Will Blackjack ever stop wishing she never had to be responsible for things? Spoiler: no. But she'll deal with it to a greater or lesser extent as events arise.
The only thing omitted was the talk of who would die in the process. It just wasn’t discussed.
Well, it's not exactly the kind of thing you know ahead of time, and I don't think you exactly have time to do an in-depth statistical analysis and optimization, especially since the failure mode is the enslavement of everyone in Equestria, or anyway everyone who doesn't die.
“I’ve sat back and watched long enough,” Homage said with a little nod. “It’s time to get back in the battle saddle again.”
Wow. You managed to ponify (and Falloutify) an already horse related expression that wouldn't naturally make sense in MLP. Nice job.
“You don’t understand,” he shook his head. “When I say act, I don’t mean against your enemy. I mean against the Hoof. They’ll fire up Celestia One and burn anything that looks hostile to slag. The Core. The Brood. Your forces. With how complicated things are here, telling friends from enemies is oo much trouble and too much of a risk compared to shooting everything that moves. We won against Red Eye and the Enclave, and now they’re... concerned... about the events out here and losing them everything they’ve gained.”
“You don’t understand,” he shook his head. “When I say act, I don’t mean against your enemy. I mean against the Hoof. They’ll fire up Celestia One and burn anything that looks hostile to slag. The Core. The Brood. Your forces. With how complicated things are here, telling friends from enemies is oo much trouble and too much of a risk compared to shooting everything that moves. We won against Red Eye and the Enclave, and now they’re... concerned... about the events out here and losing them everything they’ve gained.”
Hmm. Well, at least that's out in the open. And in fairness, it's not like Blackjack's never used a megaspell on a populated area.*
Also, I wonder which would break first in the event of a conflict: the SPP tower controlling Manehattan, or Tenpony Tower/their access to sunlight. Given a Twilight Society first strike, of course.
*Evacuation, I know, but given that she couldn't have known the kill radius, that's only a partial excuse.
There was something positively surreal about a bony-winged ghoul pegasus being able to fly at all.
Sure, but that much more surreal than pegasi being able to fly at all? And it's not like you haven't worked with Ditzy and Harpica before; at some point you've just got to get over it.
Proving herself yet again to be an honorary Finder, Ditzy had produced both a PipBuck and a broadcaster at my first sarcastic quip.
Well, I guess that's our version of the "Orgasm" sign from the meeting at Spike's cave.
The strongest signal was ‘Unity radio’, which involved the Harbingers urging everypony to join ‘the real Security’ to pull the Hoof together, or else.
Oh, as opposed to the cosplayers. Right. For a minute there I was wondering how they'd already found out about the meeting, when I thought it was supposed to be at least a little secret.
One was saying I was a fake. One saying everything was a fake and kill everyone.
Okay, maybe word did leak out. I guess it didn't matter that much as long as Cognitum was already out, and maybe the Legate.
One sounding like a colt spouting as many obscenities as possible. Quite a few were ripped right out of LittlePip’s memoir… really, she couldn’t have edited that out? I wasn’t sure this kid knew what a clit was…
Well, if he'd been a Stable 99 colt . . .
“I worry about her happiness… her health… even her sanity. How long can somepony stay alone watching without losing their mind?”
Well, Goldenblood, Celestia, and Spike seemed to have managed it well enough.
Forty kids, though . . .
“Well, cyberponies and blanks live a long time too.
Did I miss this? Did she learn that from Discord or something? I don't think it was likely based on prewar knowledge, since the project wouldn't have had really long-term data. Also, the record of cyberponies hasn't been great either.
"Or adoption... adoption's good. I really want lots of babies,” I said with a grin.
500 of 'em! Yeah! Babies everywhere!
All around me here… this was the legacy of what had happened before the trade began. This was a sacrificed land. Draglines perched on the edges of mountaintops ripped flat. Vallies were filled and beaten level with toxic tailings.
Wow, I'd have thought they'd have at least a bit better environmental protection, at least before the war. That's bad to a degree you can't even get away with here, at least not in every state.
Power lines snaked this way and that eastwards towards the rest of Equestria. It only made sense. If you were going to pollute one area anyway, why not concentrate it to spare others?
Umm . . . because transmission losses are a thing even on HVDC lines? Because you get local pollution anyway from other industrial uses? Because lengthening the transmission distance makes the system more vulnerable and costlier to build in redundancies?
The jingling tune of a banjo floated like a ghost through the valley, the twangy music carrying through the quiet, scarred landscape as if travelling through time. From off in another direction came another banjo with an answering tune.
Damn it, I forget the name of that movie.
I stared at Bluebelle from across the scrabbling girls and stepped around them as Velvet and P-21 tried to separate the two without being beaned by a flying hoof.
So, what's the excuse for not levitating this time? This time it shouldn't have been shock.
“Sez you,” she countered with a scowl. “What has that pit done but taken our kin from us?”
“Nothing. But if Cognitum or the Legate win the battle tomorrow, how long do you think it’ll be before you’re next? They won’t leave you alone. They can’t,” I said firmly.
Also, if Horizons hits you're fucked either way.
Scotch Tape glared after the filly, then realized we were all all staring at her. “What?”
“What?” Velvet Remedy asked in shock. “What do you mean ‘what’? What was that all about?!”
Scotch Tape picked herself out of the mud and trotted in the opposite direction. “Ain’t every day a filly meets her arch nemeswatever-ya-call-it. I’ll thump her good next time.” Velvet stared after the filly, her mouth working silently in baffled shock.
I wonder if Scotch'll be around Velvet enough for her to think of Velvet as more boring than Glory.
That others were arranged in the shapes of charred foundations. And who could ignore the steady click-click-click of radiation?
Well, blanks are fine with taint and don't age normally, but how do they handle radiation? Don't need Blackjack puking her guts out again.
“Knowing you… being with you… has helped make us better, Blackjack. Better ponies. Better people.”
“I didn’t do anything,” I muttered, embarrassed.
She's just so adorable when she doesn't believe in the good she's done, or the good she is!
I hadn’t thought that there were that many ponies in all the Wasteland, let alone the Hoof.
Well, weren't there thousands just counting Thunderhead refugees? Though I guess many of them would have gone elsewhere in the Enclave.
I’d always kind of imagined the Wasteland as just raiders, bandits, scavengers, punctuated with a few normal people just trying to survive. The reverse was true.
Why don't scavengers count as normal people just trying to survive? Slavers I'd get, but this lumps the Crusaders in with raiders and bandits.
With the rain stopped, water’s going to quickly become an issue, and we don’t want it getting contaminated because someone’s pissing upstream,
Wait, the rain's stopped there? I thought there were issues with the control over Hoofington and it remained really wet.
“So you’re making a profit off this crisis,” Velvet Remedy said in angry, accusatory tones. Charity didn’t answer, but I spotted the vein pulsing in the filly’s temple. “How could you? Those ponies are scared and helpless, and you’re charging them for what they need.”
Well, it didn't sound like she was charging abnormally high rates, and even the surcharge of 10% for the Talons suggests that she was undercharging to start. As for the food, did Velvet entirely miss the part about her needing to pay the Society for the wholesale product, and wanting to avoid getting gouged themselves? Basically, what a bitch (Velvet, of course).
“One hundred caps for wasting thirty seconds of my time.” She thrust a hoof at a large, half-filled jar of caps on the counter; the label read ‘Blackjack’s Stupid People’s Comments Fee.”
I love this. But I'm not entirely sure Blackjack ever said anything as stupid as Velvet did.
“Now, if you’re not going to buy anything, there’s the door. I got way too much going on to deal with ponies who don’t have a clue about basic business.”
“Fine! We’d never, ever shop with you in the first–“ Velvet began to say when Homage popped in.
I've never been a big Charity fan, but between the two of them, well, Christ, what an asshole Velvet's being.
Ditzy held out a grimy purchase order that had every line filled in.
I trotted up next to the speechless Velvet. “Come on. Let the evil necessity of capitalism commence.” I guided her outside.
That didn't even need to be capitalism! Hell, it frankly bears greater resemblance to pre-capitalist commerce than anything else, since Charity only has inventory rather than significant and increasing PP&E.
“That… she… how could… I can’t… ugh!” Velvet Remedy stammered, glaring at me and then back to the post office stacked high with stuff.
Look, lady, laissez faire died for a reason, but there's yet to be found something that really works as well as or better than free-ish market capitalism.
“Goldenblood will succeed,” a familiar mare said as the throng around us gave way. The purple alicorn glanced at me, then away, rubbing her legs together awkwardly. “Failure would kill him.”
Several snappy retorts died as I stepped towards her and gave her a hug around her neck. “Psalm,” I murmured as she stiffened beneath me. “I’m glad you’re okay.”
Good to see she's still keeping the faith.
“How’s the barding fit?”
“Like I was dipped in a vat of badass and wired to a neon sign saying ‘kill this one first’,” I replied.
So, perfectly? Given how you've been talking about how your M.O. is to take as many bullets for others as you can.
But Psalm shook her head again. “I don’t want to be a murderer again,” she whispered.
Odds on her being drawn back in anyway? It'd be unfortunate in a way—I really do think she's been through more than enough—but sometimes you're called on to give more than could reasonably be expected, and you're left in the situation that if you don't answer, maybe someone else will, maybe no one.
I smiled at her. As much as I knew she could be important in the battle, I couldn’t make her take up a life that had done her so much harm. “I’m sure you’ll find some way to help.”
Oh, well maybe not. We'll see, though.
“Didn’t it vaporize those bottles of Luna’s Moonrise Rum, Captain?” a third crewmember asked.
Thrush’s bottom lip quivered, and then she grabbed me and sobbed into my shoulder. “It was a disaster! A catastrophe! If we hadn’t of turned towards the city at the last moment, I would have lost the last bottle too!”
Oh, Thrush. You're good people. And hopefully you'll be able to get blitzed with Blackjack again sometime, after everything and maybe the pregnancy depending on exactly how that turns out.
“Brutus is really cute,” she flushed a little.
“He’s… well…” I flushed as I remembered my close brush with him. “Shiny. Very shiny.”
“Do you even have a port for his ship?” Thrush taunted with a smile.
Pisces went from pink to scarlet. “Yes! I do. Not that it’s any of your business!”
As though we needed further reminders that Thrush is basically Blackjack without the baggage.
“We’re running cargo and getting refugees to the Ironmare naval station,” the teal mare answered for her.
Sadly, I'm really not digging all the use of "teal mare" and "turquoise mare" for Thrush and (more often) Seabiscuit, since they're close enough to the same color that anything used on one applies to the other.
“I am too. And I’m glad you’re the real one. The other you… the armored one… really scared me,” she admitted, dropping her eyes to the brown water as she tapped her hooves together. “I thought she was going to shoot us even after we got that gun for her.”
Hi, Folly! We've missed you!
“A gun. Folly. I killed a battleship with it,” I said absently. “I need to find the jackass that asked for the damned thing to be built in the first place.”
Oh hey, you can actually do that now. Usually that's just been an expression.
Wait. I froze, staring ahead. Did that skyscraper just… move? I stared up at one of the shorter, sixty-story-tall black towers laced with wires and cables. I saw several of the cables go taut, accompanied by a moan of metal and a great thump. The tower swayed, and slowly moved upright. Then it went still. A second thump and other cables off to the side went taut, and the tower shifted ever so slightly in that direction.
I don't know exactly what's happening, but I'm pretty sure it isn't good.
“I’ve been having that feeling since I first saw this place.” Then I blinked and stared at him. “Wait! You’re not melting!”
“No. I’m not. The Enervation is gone,” he said quietly. “Why do I feel that that’s a bad sign too?”
And she's surprised . . . why? She'd already remarked on the Enervation scream being gone, not even a whisper.
“Don’t sit there while she fires it. It does have a ridiculously long fire delay, and only a ten or twelve square foot area of effect. Rather idiotic to use it against anything smaller than a building,” he murmured, also staring at the tormented city.
That small? And at what range? It's got to get wider as it goes on, at least a little. But twelve square feet, that's only a circle of about 4' diameter. Given Equestrian engineering of the time, I'm not sure that could fully take out a battleship absent secondary explosions, much less a large, overengineered building. Though I guess the heat and rapidly expanding plasma from the stuff that is getting directly hit would do a lot of the work. But once you add that part in, you need to be well out of its path even if the impact is far away from you.
“Folly was my other suicide. Dying destroying my greatest and most terrible creation seemed… fitting.”
Well, if you're going to go out, might as well go out with your characteristic megalomania.
“I’m not a doctor. I believe the placenta would offer a tiny amount of protection, but no more than a day. Flux is… fickle.”
So, basically "Wait and see what happens, 'cause hell if I know. But it probably won't be good."
Take rocket to stop Horizons and deal with Brood or, if too late, you get to use Folly and blow it out of the sky while we run for the Highlanders’ mines.
Wait. Is the rocket part of dealing with the Brood?
“Anyway, once Brood are done, find surrogate for my baby, transfer back into this body for good. Stick the original in your stasis pod to keep it safe. Get Snails to put my soul back together. Then spend many long years being a mommy with P-21 and either patch things up with Glory or make sure she has a mare worthy of a girl like her. Spend the rest of my existence making things better ‘till a raider is luckier than me and call it a good life.”
It's a good plan.
“I see a gap in your plan,” he said softly.
“I know, but unless I know for sure how Boo thinks of me, I can’t really work her into the equation, now can I?” I asked with a feeble stab at humor.
Or is it? Just humor, I mean. Blackjack did basically say she'd be interested if Boo ever said she wanted that.
“What I really need is a… ah, forget it.”
“What?” he asked in bafflement.
“It’s stupid.”
“What is?”
I rolled my eyes again and said with a touch of sarcasm, “You wouldn’t happen to know where I can get my hooves on an IF-88 Ironpony, would you?”
He smiled. Of course he smiled…
Yes! She finally gets her wank material! But! What will happen to ruin it, and when? Will she get to put it to use before it's ruined?
But she still has Duty and Sacrifice, right, and could get ammo for them, presumably? That would be some help, especially for longer range work.
“The good old days.” I chuckled and then looked at Glory with her wistful smile. “Just the three of us again. Been a while, huh?”
Several months, 56 chapters, and over a million words, I believe.
“Aw horseapples,” Calamity said as he rushed up, setting down Spitfire’s Thunder and immediately began pulling out freshly brewed healing potions. “Why can’t folks send me a memo when they’re gonna dress up like the bad guys? That too much ta ask?”
He's part of Blackjack's group now. Which is too bad; though not as bad as Velvet or bland as Xenith, far as I'm concerned Littlepip can keep him. Oh, and he and Velvet are probably kind of a package deal, aren't they? Fuck.
“I’m sorry about your friends,” he murmured, taking off his hat. Then I blinked and realized there were only the two of us and the alicorn here.
I upended the bottle.
Yes. Hell yes. Hell fucking yes.
It took two headshots for me to drop it. Then over to the next. Two shots. The next. Two shots and a reload.
Well, she certainly has the skill to be a sniper, if not the stomach.
At that instant, six cyber unicorns flashed in around us, each with a pistol and, of all things, a sword.
Sounds like these were modeled after Blackjack, post the point when she just gave up on shotguns since their half life with her seemed to be in the hours.
The six moved at me with terrifying swiftness and sureness; so this was what it was like being on the receiving end of augmentation.
You've been on the receiving end of augmentation since chapter one; Deus, remember?
Maybe that Wild Pegasus wasn’t the best idea...
If you said that out loud, and Glory and P-21 heard it, there's a decent chance they'd start doubting you really were Blackjack. Seriously, remember "Princess Celestia Hates Tea"? It'd be just like that.
I tumbled through the air for a few seconds, then teleported back to the roof. I had enough velocity that I slammed down on one of the cyber unicorns with a crunch that was only partially from me.
Umm . . . in only two seconds she'd have fallen 20 meters, or enough to hit the ground even if each story was 20 feet high. And that's a pretty large height/floor ratio. And shouldn't she be squishier than the cyberunicorn?
If you meet her and she’s killed me, I want you… well… fuck… to be honest, I want you to nail her to the floor and fuck her ass a dozen times.
And there, for just a minute, I thought maybe I'd be surprised to find that he was more concerned with being betrayed than his grudge with Blackjack. Granted, that wouldn't fit well with how he acted in the Core, but stranger things could happen. Especially since he basically already knew Cognitum and Dawn were using and betraying him.
I’d seen her several times; it was the same filly Rampage reverted to every time she was disintegrated. In the pictures, she went from a tiny foal to a tiny filly. In another, she suddenly had red stripes too, and a little note on the picture read ‘Shu needs to hide her magic zebra dyes better.’ The last picture was Twist embracing her striped daughter.
Okay, so that answers where the stripes came from, given she wasn't in any sense a zebra by birth and Shujaa's soul having some effect leading to them was pretty much ruled out.
“Blackjack, you’re not thinking of going into that thing, are you?” Glory asked.
“I need too. If I can give Rampage a reason to live, she won’t have a reason to help Cognitum any more,” I said. “If I’m out for too long, carry me back, please.” I touched the orb to my horn before there could be any further argument.
"Celestia damn it, Blackjack! You could have done that once we got back to HQ!"
“It has been an honor, Sergeant Twist, but I must relieve you of your duty. Your final orders are to get your daughter out of here and keep her alive at all costs.”
Cupcake's a pretty good guy. Doesn't get as much screen time as some of the others, but he's one of the few past characters who seems to have been always decent and never broke.
Twist’s body shuddered as her lips curled in a smile. Her limbs tightened on the red striped filly’s form. “It’s okay... I’m going to take care of you... take care of you...” she murmured.
“Mommy! You’re squishing me!” Peppermint squealed.
Oh fuck. Bad time for the Angel to show up. Not that there'd be a good time.
Peppermint hugged her as she wept, and then the hoof stroking her mane stilled. “Mommy?” She pulled away, looking at her still form. At the other hoof holding photographs to her chest. “Mommy!” A smile lingered on the corner of her mouth. Then there was a colossal roar and a terrible pain in her head, and everything returned to black.
Okay, so the best I can think of is at some point Rampage came to, had that memory extracted from the talisman itself, or maybe just her, and put the orb back in Twist's room and locked the door. I can get why she'd want to lose or copy the memory, but I'm less sure about how she'd get it extracted. I don't think she could have gone to Vanity, and it's not exactly a common skill.
But now it was clear why she couldn’t remember who she was: that memory had been removed.
But she'd need not only that removed, but presumably all of Peppermint's memories up to that point, and beyond.
We returned to Star House.
SEE? SEE? Could have just done the orb there. Dumbass.
Sonata and Adagio bearing Octavia on their backs.
Aww.
But seriously, that's a ton of people, especially with Pain Train and a bathtub for the sea ponies.
“Isn’t it obvious?” Big Daddy said, “Tomorrow morning we’re going to battle.”
“So we have two choices,” Storm Chaser said deeply. “To ponder the imminent battle ahead with sobriety and grim contemplation.”
“Or get shitfaced drunk and spit in the face of Death and enjoy ourselves ‘cause tomorrow we’re fucked!” Thrush exclaimed.
Ooh! Ooh! Choose the second one!
Was it just me, though, or was Whisper a little... well… radiant?
You get a baby! And you get a baby! Everypony gets a baby!
Homage and Velvet chatted with Grace and Splendid; what did you call a collective of unicorns?
A blessing. Yes, really.
“And I have a sample of super sexy Horse’s DNA,” Sweetie Bot gushed. “If I can get one of those cloning trees, we’ll be reunited!”
“Sweetie... he’ll be a mindless, soulness blank,” I pointed out.
“I know. He’ll be perfect!”
Oh god. That had me laughing out loud. And in fairness, he had a pretty good mind for some things, but his soul wasn't exactly an attractive part of him.
“He loves a mare who’s gone. A mare who was better than me,” Psalm said, and I had to drift closer to pick up her soft words. “I don’t deserve his love.”
But . . . what if you tried to be better, and to deserve his love? WHY DOES NOBODY THINK OF THE EASY SOLUTIONS?
“He’s not a saint, you right big purple pillock. He’s done things he ain’t proud of. So have I. So have you. So what? It’s not about what you deserve. Name me one geezer in this world who deserves love after all we do to survive!” Crumpets demanded jabbing the alicorn in the breast again. “Deservin’ it don’t come into it. What matters is whether you get it.”
Thank you, somepony speaking sense. Crumpets just got an upgrade in my book. And seriously, guys, what if, guys, what if, and now follow me here, what if we tried to be happy instead of denying ourselves everything that might help with that on the basis of things that we did in the past that we can't change?
I just want Psalm to be happy. Why's she gotta fight me?
I opened my saddlebags and pulled out Penance’s case. “I want you to have this back, Psalm. I can’t use it like you can, and in the upcoming fight, I think you’ll need it.”
She froze, staring at it. “How... how could you... how can I...” she muttered, half in horror.
I stood and held her shoulders, gazing into her eyes. “I can because I know you’re strong enough to carry it. And I know you’re strong enough to use it, because you don’t want to repeat your mistakes. Forgive yourself, Psalm. I know that Big Macintosh would forgive you if he were here.” I pushed the case into her hooves. “If you can’t, or won’t, give it to somepony who can. But it should be a better pony than me.”
Thought this sort of thing might happen. But most especially: Blackjack, you're being a massive hypocrite again, doing the "you're a good pony" thing but forgetting that it can apply to you, too. And I love you for that, but it's a bad habit that only hurts you in the long run. Also the short run.
Hating and denying yourself happiness because of past mistakes didn’t do anything to help overcome pain like that.
Yes. Too bad what you just said kind of indicates that message is still a few synapses away from reaching your self-awareness.
Velvet Remedy was now having an argument with P-21 about whether it was appropriate for Scotch Tape to fraternize with Adagio and Allegro. P-21 asked if there was an age at which a filly could give fellatio to multiple partners without parental approval that he wasn't aware of and if Velvet would instruct her own child of such. I stayed clear of that one. If Scotch Tape wanted to fool around and had her implant, good on her. Ambitious to tackle two at once, though; I’d never have had such an opportunity at her age.
Eh, it's her body, and sure as fuck none of Velvet's business, except as gossip, I suppose. Ever since the interrogation computer suggested death by VD, though, I'm less sanguine on the implant handling all the consequences. Oh, so as a medical pony/healer, that could be something she could legitimately bring up, too. But it sounds like she doesn't.
“Look at you. You’re a fucking steak, well done. You’d like her to do you a little more though. It’s fucking branded on your face. Get a clue. Flashers fuck who they want to fuck and that ain’t a pony who looks like a ghoul.
What a prick. Way to not get the point of what's going on here. And fuck you, he can play the field if he wants, and you know what? All people's preferences aren't the same. She could be into that, or just not care. At any rate, fuck you, outside of a professional capacity, it's not your concern, and in a professional capacity, it would be nice if you'd at least give the collaboration agenda a real shot.
“Asshole,” a stallion muttered beside me, and I jumped, the navy blue Storm Front having snuck up beside me.
This guy's ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to his newsletter.
Wow, melodramatic much? Wait, was that what I used to sound like? No wonder ponies liked to shoot me.
You still do sometimes, especially in subtext.
Whisper and Stygius focus on close in attacks, right? Have you considered focusing on more long-ranged weapons? Rifles? Something that will keep you out of imminent harm and still let you fight.”
So maybe she gets Penance.
I’ve tried hating her, and it’s just so hard. Soon as I ended it, she went and had marathon sex with another pony.
Another pony who happens to be her baby daddy.
- Chapter Seventy Overall Thoughts:
I found the Twist/Rampage orb enjoyable, but not especially illuminating, all things considered. Most of what we saw could have been pretty easily pieced together anyway, but confirmation of why Rampage is striped was welcome. I'm guessing we're not likely to see any more of Cupcake going forward, and if that's the case, this was a beautiful way for him to exit the stage.
Nails was another highlight of the chapter, showing once again how he's being a better pony. Moreover, though, I think that it was a nice example of a (now) good-ish man fighting on the side of a bad cause, like General Storm Chaser. Of course, in both cases it kind of seems like the badness wasn't that obvious until late in the game, with the Enclave being basically isolationist until almost when Blackjack meets Storm Chaser and she mutinies, and the Harbingers not being obviously super evil, mostly just trying to get Blackjack . . . apart from Chapel. And maybe Nails wasn't involved with that. Can't say that Steel Rain was in any sense ameliorated by his message; "oh, hey, if I'm dead, it's basically because these assholes betrayed me, but make sure you torture Blackjack to death before dealing with them. Yeah, she's the one who killed me, but that was more because I was fighting on behalf of her enemies, whom I don't even like and who betrayed me" isn't exactly endearing even among calls for a vendetta. Scalpel was disappointing. I mean, I get it; if Blackjack hadn't ever been there, then Psychoshy and Sanguine wouldn't have fucked the place up much later and while she wasn't even there. But come on, let's put the blame where it belongs. On which note, Psychoshy's probably lucky that there's just a ton of bad blood all around. Otherwise, her recent string of massacres would probably have attracted some unwanted attention during the party.
Also: IF-88! But I just know it'll be broken or lost before the story's over. I'm not going to say the universe out and out hates Blackjack, but it sure loves messing with her, and killing her shotguns has been one of the ways it's consistently done that.
Thrush was a lot of fun, as were Sweetie Bot and the interrogation program/Applebot. Sweetie's reaction to a clone of Horse being a mindless, soulless blank was priceless, easily the funniest thing in the chapter. Psalm and Crumpets's conversation was nice, and one which I hope Psalm takes to heart; whatever she thinks, she does deserve a chance to be happy, and if there's anything this story's been screaming at us it's that people have a better shot at being the best versions of themselves when they seek out the support of friends and loved ones. And if she doesn't deserve his love right now? Well, give it a shot, and she can grow into it. In contrast, Glory/Tenebra could go somewhere, but I'm not especially feeling it right now. Oh, and I liked the P-21/Scotch family dynamic.
Now, I can't say that these are bad things, but there were two characters I came out really disliking. Velvet was terrible, both in her holier than thou pearl clutching at the idea that Charity needed to cover costs, and in being a fucking busybody regarding Scotch Tape's sex life. Oh, and the nemesis thing. Which was a cute, fun digression that got some background characterization for Homage. So that was neat, I guess. Then there was Toaster, who was just an asshole, and sounds like he could be a problem after the climax. But that'll happen.
- Chapter Seventy Editing:
It was starting to get late. Tomorrow, I’d
All of you. There’s going to
I’m asking for help. Begging for it, in fact.
extracted herself and trotted away. She paused and
Scotch replied. Baby Blue stuck
these seem to be doing a weird thing where the second space after the period is on the next line instead of just hanging to the right
Homage said with a little nod. “It’s time to get back in the
only one space after period
“That horn for show then?” Calamity teased, and Homage stuck her tongue out at him.
two spaces between "Homage" and "stuck"
telling friends from enemies is oo much trouble
"too"
In the S.P.P. Hub, with Celestia’s soul powering the shield, she might even survive Horizons.
based on prior uses, "Hub" shouldn't be capitalized
and try to have a few more–" Ugh, sterile body, remember numbskull?
should have second space after quotation, comma after "remember"
their smoke stacks jutting towards the gray skies.
"smokestacks" is one word
My mane crawled at the creepy yet definitely effective form of signalling.
"signaling"
“Y’all were supposed ta tell em ta scoot.”
apostrophe for "em"
They’re after ‘civilized’ ponies who are ‘interesting’ and ‘valuable.’
period to outside of quotation marks
“Then as soon as DJ Pon3 took me in, and just like that I became civilized, interesting, and valuable. Imagine that.”
Dialogue's kind of awkward (with both "as soon as" and the "and") but hey, it's dialogue and could stand as it is.
I’ve advocated for–“
inverted quotation mark
ready to wink out. To the north of me,
only one space after period
And there was a very good… very real chance that one of my friends.
should either complete the sentence or end with an ellipsis instead
Ditzy kicked the cart, rousing us and then pointing ahead with a scarred-up undead hoof.
suggest "cart, rousing us, and then pointed" or "cart, rousing us, pointing"
featherbrains are ‘overstocking’.” Charity said to a small
period should be comma
label read ‘Blackjack’s Stupid People’s Comments Fee.”
should end with single quotation mark, period outside of quotation marks
shop with you in the first–“ Velvet began
inverted quotation mark
No stage. No lights. Not even music, and yet with her voice alone she released a melody that rippled through the massed people like a wave. The music was something Sweetie Belle; I didn’t recognize it.
Umm . . . was there music, or wasn't there? If there was music, how would she know it was Sweetie Belle if she didn't recognize it? Should that have been lyrics that sounded like something Sweetie Belle would sing?
“I… uh…” She’d missed the meeting
should have two spaces after quotation
cooked in the steam.” A red pegasus objected
period should be comma, extra space after quotation, "A" shouldn't be capitalized
The water beside the boat splashed as a pink mare (Pisces) poked her head pink out. “The bottom is patched. Any more leaks, Seabiscuit?”
Delete the second "pink".
“Thought about it,” Thrush frowned.
comma should be period, second space after quotation
Cognitum wasn’t connected to the Core any more.
"anymore", I think
If she fires it, the flux...”
"flux" should be capitalized
Harbingers blasting away with markspony rifles, assault carbines, and anti-machine rifles.
markspony carbines? Markspony rifles haven't been a thing yet.
Did these idiots just raid an arms store room, put on the same outfit, and call themselves an army
"storeroom"
then rushed to the tank laying near the crater.
"lying"
I gave a few seconds consideration
apostrophe for "seconds"
On mostly silent hooves… why couldn’t I be all sneaky sneaky like LittlePip?.. the three of us
third dot for second ellipsis
the chance of detection. Upstairs, the plan was seriously
only one space after period
Inscribed on the barrel was a simple phrase: Ayup.
quotation marks for "Ayup"?
there is the property of–“ he started to say
inverted quotation mark
“nine tenths and all that.”
"nine" should be capitalized
There were at least a dozen armed harbingers in there.
"harbingers" should be capitalized
Oh to just teleport out.
comma after "Oh"?
Calamity said as he rushed up, setting down Spitfire’s Thunder and immediately began pulling out freshly brewed healing potions.
"beginning to pull"?
firing an anti machine rifle with no heed for the recoil
hyphen for "anti machine"
With a whole bunch of Brood advancing? Maybe that Wild
only one space after question mark
As scared and shaken as they were, they had more than enough force to liquify us. I blinked
hey, remember that thing with the one chapter where some of us were seeing highlighting, and others not? I'm seeing it on "had more than enough force to liquify us"
“What are you waiting for?” the gray nag demanded.
Scalpel is lavender
Kill em all!”
“And Blackjack,
apostrophe for "em", paragraph shouldn't end with quotation mark
But Blackjack didn’t cause that. She’s lancing this boil,
only one space after period
Would she move up the time table?
"timetable"
Ugh. It looks like there's disagreement over what Cupcake looks like. Sometimes he's white, sometimes he's brown with white mane and tail. Both the white and brown show up multiple times.
Cloudsdale Command and Control is gone. Earth Pony command is gone.
should EP command be capialized like the Cloudsdale one?
“I thought you said you’d keep the bad zebras away, mommy,”
"mommy" should be capitalized
Hit em as hard as I can!”
apostrophe for "em"
“It’s okay, momma. I’m not scared,”
You need medicine, mommy.
“I promise mommy. I promise. But you need a doctor, mommy!” she begged, sniffling.
"momma"/"mommy" should be capitalized
“Don’t tell me to stay where its safe, cause nowhere is.
"it's", apostrophe for "cause"
“What..?” I began to say when Homage,
third dot for ellipsis
boxes of food carried casually on Brutus’ back.
"Brutus's"
“What’s...” I looked down at Boo
need second space after quotation
“So...” the white blank grinned eagerly,
should have second space after quotation, "the" should be capitalized
Sweetie Bot was in bits! But now there
only one space after exclamation point
‘Hiding now,’ the suit piped, and when I blinked, she was gone.
should be double-quotes
“The griffons are sitting this one out,”
"griffins"
pretended to be interested in... a whisky mixer... actually, nevermind the pretending.
"whiskey"
But you got to be thinking about things after the mission, bro.
"bro" should be capitalized
Cause if you’re smart, you’ll make sure that
apostrophe for "Cause"
you’ll lose all the Burner’s fighters and turn their
"Burners' "
Whisper thinks its funny.”
"it's"
The dusky rose batpony wept as she sat on a rock.
she was originally described as having the same coat as Stygius, which was dark/charcoal gray. I think her color was only described the one time, though.
is nothing.” Tenebra said with another sniff
period to comma, extra space after quotation
“Um.... Hi.
should have only three dots in ellipsis, second space after it
Celestia wants to be trapped in the there forever either,”
cut the "there"
Vallies were filled and beaten level with
"Valleys"
footing, moreso in the fading light
"more so"
then realized we were all all staring at her
delete extra "all"
None but the steady ticking of my Pipbuck.
"PipBuck"
“No offense, Goldy, but I think a good therapist would have probably helped
"Goldie"
I said with a baldfaced lie, trying to hide the
"bald-faced"
“Sorry, I didn't realise you were
"realize"
they had more than enough force to liquify us
"liquefy"
If I can give Rampage a reason to live, she won’t have a reason to help Cognitum any more
"anymore"? It's referring primarily to time, not doing yet more, right?
“Us too.”
comma after "Us"
he’ll be a mindless, soulness blank,” I pointed out.
"soulless"
Stronghooves is a good pony.
"Stronghoof"
- Other Editing:
Especially at the sight of the clip-fed IF-88 ‘Ironpony’ combat shotgun. Now that was a glorious-looking weapon!
Should that be updated to "drum-fed"?
63:
distances of space, the odds of it traveling to us are staggeringly small.
"travelling"
on how glorious superheated balefire powerhooves would be.
"power hooves"
The stem came off, and the superheated powerhoof in the dragon’s mouth exploded
"power hoof"
Find some way to make a balefire powerhoof.
"power hoof"
62.2:
Not that I doubted Paladin Stronghooves,
"Stronghoof"
“Woah. Peace, Babe. I’m unarmed.”
“Woah! Foreign biological material detected!” one of the technicians shouted.
“Woah. Blackjack, you have terrible mouthwritting.”
"Whoa"
64:
She groaned, pulled the Operative armor from my bags,
"Operative" shouldn't be capitalized
69:
“If the bodies are recovered, the flux can be alchemically extracted and shaped into a new blank instantly.
"Flux"
As ever, Somber and crew, thank you for the chapter. I appreciate your hard work and pushing through even though the universe was working against you. Though not exactly the meatiest of chapters, it was fun, and I do think it did the job you were looking for, leaving us with an update of what's happened outside of Blackjack's little circle and giving an idea of what some of the landscape will look like after the climax. There were also some important, if sometimes minor, contributions to supporting/background plot lines, and the characters all felt right in the situations they found themselves (except maybe Scalpel, and I can see where she was coming from), which was probably the major thing you needed to get right for the chapter given its heavily social focus.
Aye, NV. It's a modification of what Yes Man says on the Independent path if you put off going to the dam.Icy Shake wrote:Okay, that's new-ish. Fallout 3/NV? I don't recognize this.
[checks]Evilgidgit wrote:Another awesome chapter!
- Spoiler:
Big Macintosh's password was "Maripony". Didn't Blackjack try that when she opened Vanity's locker?
…Yes. Blast. Hm…
Okay, I've edited 39. Thanks.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:39 pm
Excellent timing for this chapter release! Got to read it in the train.
Even though the chapter is relatively light in term of fighting (which is kinda misleading given how awesome what little fight there was is when put into perspective in-universe), the tension keeps building, and almost all of the pieces are falling into places for the final showdown of ultimate destiny.
So at this point it's either gonna be the most epic thing since toasts, or a giant anti-climax.
Whatever happens, though, I trust in you Somber, and in the Editors, to make it amazing.
Even though the chapter is relatively light in term of fighting (which is kinda misleading given how awesome what little fight there was is when put into perspective in-universe), the tension keeps building, and almost all of the pieces are falling into places for the final showdown of ultimate destiny.
So at this point it's either gonna be the most epic thing since toasts, or a giant anti-climax.
Whatever happens, though, I trust in you Somber, and in the Editors, to make it amazing.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Vinylshadow Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:45 pm
Didn't mean to imply the editors aren't doing their jobs
Just meant it's nice to read the...'exhaustively re-edited and revised by cooperation between third-party readers/fans and the PH Team' chapter?
I am not good with putting my thoughts into coherent patterns that may or may not be considered the ramblings of a madpony
Just meant it's nice to read the...'exhaustively re-edited and revised by cooperation between third-party readers/fans and the PH Team' chapter?
I am not good with putting my thoughts into coherent patterns that may or may not be considered the ramblings of a madpony
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Icy Shake Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:58 pm
Yes, while Nallar is a wonderful (if slow) resource, updating only once per day—and as far as I'm aware, on a schedule entirely unrelated to the actions of the crew of the good ship Project Horizons—does leave it unworkable for some high-frequency purposes, including new chapters.O. Hinds wrote:Ah, okay! Nallar, while very useful, isn't the official hub page; that's here, and linked in my signature.Zola wrote:Thank you and found it now, no worries. But the hub page I was talking about was this thing [url=http://nallar.me/fics/Fallout Equestria Project Horizons.html]http://nallar.me/fics/Fallout%20Equestria%20Project%20Horizons.html[/url] But thank you all for helping me!O. Hinds wrote:Eh? No, the link from the hub page seems to be working fine; I just tested it both logged in and not. I'm afraid I don't know what the problem you're having might be. Here's a direct link to the chapter; hopefully the problem, whatever it is will be fixed soon. What exactly happens that prevents you from using the link?ThUmm maybe I'm just stupid but where is it? There is no link to it on the hub page.
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- @IcyShake Velvet and Scotch:
Willing to agree with you when it comes to Velvet and Charity, she very clearly has no idea how that works. I remember someone somewhere suggesting Charity was the element of generosity and well it's clear she's trying to be as generous as she can I think it's a requirement that the elements be friends.
As for Scotch? She just got her CM three months ago. She is very much a filly, if I had to guess at her age I'd guess somewhere between 10-13. I'd think most people would have that reaction, and given P-21 is completely new to this and he was literally fucked by 99 he might go "Maybe these behaviors aren't best for my daughter". If Scotch was an adult I'd agree with you, Velvet would very much be butting in where she's not wanted. Scotch would be mentally mature enough to make her own decisions. But having mechanical know how and being mentally mature enough to understand the consequences of your actions are not the same thing.
Also Scotch isn't the only one to consider here. Even if she was mentally mature (She's not the Blue filly proved that) the colts might not be. And they're orphans, they don't have a parent to tell them no. The thing is even though they can't get Scotch pregnant because of the implant if no one's going to say no now what happens when they meet the filly without one? There are consequences for them. Why would they, Colts who didn't grow up in 99 understand why Scotch is okay and random other filly isn't?
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- Relating to mental maturity, I disagree in general and due to the particulars of this case. Abstracting from the physical consequences for a moment—Scotch won't get pregnant and for some reason nobody cares about the possibility of diseases (on which note, I still think introducing STIs so late in the game after various characters, not least Glory, a medical researcher and capable physician and surgeon, should have raised the point but didn't, was a mistake)—exploration before you're fully mentally mature—with others in a similar state—is, for many people, a normal part of that very maturation process. This isn't an adult taking advantage of their position of power or simple physical advantages to exploit a child; it's kids fooling around. Now, is Scotch on the young side, and perhaps them as well? Sure, but they're in a setting where children already do often take considerable responsibility for themselves, and autonomy appears fairly accelerated even during the show (Pinkie's apprenticeship, Rarity living alone and running a business, etc., all at an adolescent or very young adult (probably sub-20) age suggest we aren't looking at an apples-to-apples comparison).
Now, looking at Scotch in particular, I really don't see how her little spat with Baby Blue indicates she's not mature enough, given that for her society sex was just something fun and pleasurable you do with (consenting—males need not apply—and unrelated) people if you feel like it. Let's remember Blackjack's reaction: that she wasn't sure Scotch could handle two at once, or that at any rate she never had at her age. Saying that she isn't old enough for something just doesn't make any sense when there's no strong assumption that it's only for people older than her.
I think you have more of a point where the boys were concerned. However, it's important to remember that although they don't have parents, they do have a social structure looking after them. Until a few months ago, they had Priest, and more recently there's been the addition of Harpica, even if she does spend more time focused on the ghoul children. P-21's role as an educator shouldn't be overlooked, either. There are also older Crusaders, notably Charity. As for knowing the difference why it might be okay with Scotch but not someone without an implant, that's more of an argument in favor of early and comprehensive sex education than anything else. And given that P-21 is currently the major educator in Chapel, there's a decent chance he has that covered.
Why not just stick with the standby "Footnote: Maximum Level Reached," which has been used numerous times without anything else being included? Though I suppose it's not entirely clear that the level cap has been hit in the "New Game" started in 66.O. Hinds wrote:That's deliberate, yes. Much as I dislike breaking the format, none of us could think of anything really good to do with them.Dekshuduph wrote:Also, there's been no footnote at the end of each chapter before the Author's Notes twice. Is that a deliberate style choice? Because I've not seen any mention about it.
But that just kind of raises the question of why she wouldn't try "Maripony" at that point, having attempted "Twilight," especially if she went through the trouble of trying all the personalities she remembered from Rampage for Twist's. Or hit the prompt for the password hint, I guess.O. Hinds wrote:[checks]Evilgidgit wrote:Another awesome chapter!
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Big Macintosh's password was "Maripony". Didn't Blackjack try that when she opened Vanity's locker?
…Yes. Blast. Hm…
Okay, I've edited 39. Thanks.
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- 33:
“Lets go, Maripony,” he said as others rose to their hooves.
"Let's"
“Fillies and Gentlecolts,” he began slowly.
"Gentlecolts" shouldn't be capitalized
Vanity pressed his lips together for a moment before sighing softly.
extra space between "a" and "moment"
As the arisoponies raced about, there was an immense crash and explosion that shook the immense manor
"aristoponies"
“You’re out? Don’t worry…” Glory said from near by
"nearby"
she made another of those hiccuping, laughing sobs.
"hiccupping"
“No. Yes. Yes.” I replied, my voice thick and muffled
last period should be comma, have only one space after quotation.
“Seabiscut will carry the captain.
"Seabiscuit"
then you’d negate the penalty--“
inverted quotation mark
If you need me to tell ya, ya’ll ask,”
“And that to ya’ll bein’ stupid. Ya don’t get a third.”
"y'all"
a lot of blood…” she stammered as he stared into her eyes.
extra space after quotation
“I meant what I said bout it being improper.
apostrophe for "bout"
I nodded, “You need to tell her
comma should be period
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:28 pm
Icy Shake wrote:
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- I am going to adress your other points, but first I feel I should explain exactly what I meant. Her arguing and getting into a fight wasn't what I meant to point out as an indication of her not being mature.
Ignoring the warning shot when BJ simply approached Baby Blue was what I meant. Later in the chapter P-21 is faced with BJ's rapist, someone he hates much more than Scotch will likely ever hate Baby Blue, and he keeps his cool. Because he knows the consequence for rash action there could have been the death of himself as well as Glory and BJ. If Scotch isn't mature enough to make the right decision when the consequences for making the wrong one are so blatantly obvious leads me to believe she simply isn't mature enough.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:42 pm
Just for the sake of transperancy I have a bias against Scotch having sex with anyone considering her age. Personally I find it disturbing. Gonna do my best to remain logical, but I feel it's probably best to divulge my position now.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:45 pm
I'm going to go with "she just didn't think of it".Icy Shake wrote:
But that just kind of raises the question of why she wouldn't try "Maripony" at that point, having attempted "Twilight," especially if she went through the trouble of trying all the personalities she remembered from Rampage for Twist's. Or hit the prompt for the password hint, I guess.
Ah, thank you.Icy Shake wrote:
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“Lets go, Maripony,” he said as others rose to their hooves.
"Let's"
“Fillies and Gentlecolts,” he began slowly.
"Gentlecolts" shouldn't be capitalized
Vanity pressed his lips together for a moment before sighing softly.
extra space between "a" and "moment"
As the arisoponies raced about, there was an immense crash and explosion that shook the immense manor
"aristoponies"
“You’re out? Don’t worry…” Glory said from near by
"nearby"
she made another of those hiccuping, laughing sobs.
"hiccupping"
“No. Yes. Yes.” I replied, my voice thick and muffled
last period should be comma, have only one space after quotation.
“Seabiscut will carry the captain.
"Seabiscuit"
then you’d negate the penalty--“
inverted quotation mark
If you need me to tell ya, ya’ll ask,”
“And that to ya’ll bein’ stupid. Ya don’t get a third.”
"y'all"
a lot of blood…” she stammered as he stared into her eyes.
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“I meant what I said bout it being improper.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:49 pm
Oh, and regarding venereal disease, I'm still going with it being something very uncommon with ponies even in the Wasteland but extant enough among other species for some ponies to know that it's a thing. The execution by it would thus be even worse due to it being some new and unknown disease. Maybe the program would even run Goldenblood through a romance with a zebra first or something.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Scienza Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:49 pm
Yeah, I've got to say that I'm in the same boat. I don't personally think she's reached anything near full maturity either mentally or physically, so it's just... uncomfortable. Logically, I get the whole "different attitudes about sexual activity" thing, but I still can't really shake the ickiness factor.Last wrote:Just for the sake of transperancy I have a bias against Scotch having sex with anyone considering her age. Personally I find it disturbing. Gonna do my best to remain logical, but I feel it's probably best to divulge my position now.
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by Dekshuduph Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:01 pm
I have... absolutely no idea, other than the fact that my browser crashed and I had to type it again, so I must have not been paying attention. That is the silliest of ways I've erred this month.O. Hinds wrote:Ah, thank you… though I'm not sure why you identified these as being from Chapter 63.Dekshuduph wrote:
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Icy Shake Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:32 pm
That's fair enough. I come more from the viewpoint that absent a notable asymmetry suggestive of coercion or exploitation, people are more often than not competent to make their own decisions (applies even more here when the set of consequences is narrowed down). So I'd probably be more morally/ethically uncomfortable with a supervisor having sex with an employee than two children of similar age, for instance. Moving past that, I just don't like reasoning or imposing rules on others based on what makes me personally uncomfortable, because on balance I'm pretty sure that would lead places even I wouldn't really want to go.Last wrote:Just for the sake of transperancy I have a bias against Scotch having sex with anyone considering her age. Personally I find it disturbing. Gonna do my best to remain logical, but I feel it's probably best to divulge my position now.
Okay. I suppose, in fairness, it is Blackjack we're talking about.O. Hinds wrote:I'm going to go with "she just didn't think of it".Icy Shake wrote:
But that just kind of raises the question of why she wouldn't try "Maripony" at that point, having attempted "Twilight," especially if she went through the trouble of trying all the personalities she remembered from Rampage for Twist's. Or hit the prompt for the password hint, I guess.
Okay, I suppose I must have missed that if it was here, or perhaps it predated when I started paying more attention to the Setting Discussion thread. In any case, I like this solution.O. Hinds wrote:Oh, and regarding venereal disease, I'm still going with it being something very uncommon with ponies even in the Wasteland but extant enough among other species for some ponies to know that it's a thing. The execution by it would thus be even worse due to it being some new and unknown disease. Maybe the program would even run Goldenblood through a romance with a zebra first or something.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:05 pm
No problem.Dekshuduph wrote:I have... absolutely no idea, other than the fact that my browser crashed and I had to type it again, so I must have not been paying attention. That is the silliest of ways I've erred this month.O. Hinds wrote:Ah, thank you… though I'm not sure why you identified these as being from Chapter 63.Dekshuduph wrote:
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Or possibly my memories of mentioning it are inaccurate and it's just stayed in my head this entire time. But yes, it does seem a rather nice one.Icy Shake wrote:Okay, I suppose I must have missed that if it was here, or perhaps it predated when I started paying more attention to the Setting Discussion thread. In any case, I like this solution.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by SilentCarto Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:51 am
All right! I've got the new chapter, a few hours to burn, and some whiskey on the rocks. Let's do this!
- Chapter 70 Commentary:
I... have no idea what this is a quote from. If anything. Seems odd for a chapter quote, anyhow.“Sure, no problem! So long as Horizons doesn't fall before you can get there! Which I'm sure it won't!”
I'm rather curious how they'd pull that off, considering the state of the weather and the EBS network.They’ll fire up Celestia One and burn anything that looks hostile to slag. The Core. The Brood. Your forces. With how complicated things are here, telling friends from enemies is too much trouble and too much of a risk compared to shooting everything that moves.
Hehehe. It's been a while since BJ freaked out about flying. I kinda thought she was over it after Thunderhead and Shadowbolt Tower. And d'awww to Ditzy's new wagon! I wonder where LIONHEART is.That thought was one tiny voice amidst the rest of my mind screaming about splatting against the ground below as Ditzy carried us through the sky in her wagon, Absolutely Everything Too.
Augh! No no no! Don't ever talk about retirement!“I’m just no good at dying, Homage. So I figure, why not? I’ll live through this, stop Cogs and the Legate, prevent Horizons from destroying the world, raise my baby with P-21, and try to have a few more–" Ugh, sterile body, remember, numbskull? "Or adoption... adoption's good. I really want lots of babies,” I said with a grin. “Help out Chapel and the Hoof in general. Patch things up with Glory and Rampage. Make life better. See tomorrow.”
*spit take* Who the hay?!“Diamond Tiara…” the alicorn murmured softly. “That filly had serious flank issues.”
Pardon, what? What was that?“I spent most of my fillyhood on my own picking through Manehattan, just trying to stay alive. A nemesis might not like me, but at least they would have cared about me, if only as a target. Feral ghouls and raiders… bloatsprites and bloodwings… I was just another meal to them, another victim, another... toy. Being the subject of somepony’s disdain would have been a step up from being nopony at all.”
Characterization? Of Homage? WHAT IS HAPPENING
(Yes, I'm being overly sarcastic. Still...)
"Bad" is such a binary word. Let's say "desperate" instead.I grinned at Homage. “So you were a bad mare back then?”
Did BJ ever have to actually put anything in that jar?...“One hundred caps for wasting thirty seconds of my time.” She thrust a hoof at a large, half-filled jar of caps on the counter; the label read ‘Blackjack’sStupid People’s Comments Fee’.
Oh hey, is that Velvet Remedy over there?But Psalm shook her head again. “I don’t want to be a murderer again,” she whispered.
I smiled at her. As much as I knew she could be important in the battle, I couldn’t make her take up a life that had done her so much harm. “I’m sure you’ll find some way to help.” I stretched up and brushed her mane out of her eyes. “You have a second chance.”
Speaking of which! Time for a USO show, apparently.Behind me, a musical note struck me like a shot. A voice rose above the babble of the crowd like a breaking sunrise and silenced the camp. The ponies moved back to give room to Velvet Remedy. No stage. No lights. Not even music, and yet with her voice alone she released a melody that rippled through the massed people like a wave.
Woohoo!Thrush lay draped across the bow next to the battered gun turret, hat covering her head, a trio of rum bottles collected around her.
Always nice to have a private joke you can share.Then I picked up one of the empty bottles, stuck it on my horn, and grinned at her.
Double woohoo! Hugs for all old salts and seaponies!The water beside the boat splashed as a pink mare poked her head out. “The bottom is patched. Any more leaks, Seabiscuit?”
I was absolutely not just wondering exactly the same thing.“Do you even have a port for his ship?” Thrush taunted with a smile.
Well, fuck.“I thought she was going to shoot us even after we got that gun for her.”
Don't tell me Cog has a backup plan to move the Tokomare if she can't re-aim Horizons..!Wait. I froze, staring ahead. Did that skyscraper just… move? I stared up at one of the shorter, sixty-story-tall black towers laced with wires and cables. I saw several of the cables go taut, accompanied by a moan of metal and a great thump. The tower swayed, and slowly moved upright. Then it went still.
Eeheeheeheehee! Glee...I rolled my eyes again and said with a touch of sarcasm, “You wouldn’t happen to know where I can get my hooves on an IF-88 Ironpony, would you?”
He smiled. Of course he smiled…
Ah. Right. The last few lockers.“This is a bad idea, Blackjack,” P-21 said as we teleported to the east side of the Miramare Air Station.
I just realized that I had conflated Scalpel with Triage for most of the story. It's a pity that someone who was previously at least a marginally good pony has gone over to the Harbingers like this. Especially given that she's the one Rampage calls "Mom"...“Ha… bu…gah… wa?” the mare – Scalpel! That was the name! From Flank! – blustered. “Are you insane? She just said she killed him! Shoot now!” Her magic glowed around the gun of the pony next to her.
...huh. That was oddly pedestrian.In another, she suddenly had red stripes too, and a little note on the picture read ‘Shu needs to hide her magic zebra dyes better.’
Huh. In nearly three years (sweet Celestia!) of reading this fic, I never once guessed that Rampage had no memories from before waking up in the crater because they'd been extracted well after the fact. Good show, Somber!But now it was clear why she couldn’t remember who she was: that memory had been removed. I could only imagine the anguish Twist must have felt at Shujaa’s death, only to carry her inside her. But what guilt had Peppermint felt, promising to live to a dying mother, and then wanting to end it after she killed her own baby? But it was as Rampage herself had said: not knowing sucks.
I just... I don't even. I've completely lost the ability to even. I'm just gonna sit back and listen to Draft Punk here.The two strange ponies from Flank had set up a table and plugged cables into Applebot, who’d deployed two large speakers from her sides, and begun to play thumping, lively music with Sweetie Bot providing ‘live’ vocals.
The real winner is the admiring mares.Brutus, Stronghoof, and Pain Train engaged in a flex off.
That will never not be cute.Off to the side, Xanthe pranced quite happily to the music. Then she spotted me watching her and immediately flushed. “Hiding now,” the suit piped, and when I blinked, she was gone.
I really wish BJ had gone over to encourage Candlewick to go after Dazzle.“Don’t worry about Toaster. We’ve been dealing with him for years. You worry about your battle. We’ll deal with ours.”
Just as "horrible" as usual, Somber.Anyway, finally got the thing written and edited. It’s horrible... so sorry.
Uh... either we're thinking of very, very different scenes, or you used that expression wrong. Or you're a very sick puppy.(swicked: Huzzah, the chapter is complete! And gosh, wasn't it grand? That Twist saving Peppermint scene had me in stitches!)
Good chapter. Somehow a lot more satisfying than the "eat, drink, and be merry" chapter of FoE. (Possibly the run to Miramare had something to do with that.) And IF-88 Ironpony! Woooo! When you get the super gun, you know all Hell is about to break loose.
Ante up.
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This should be "to the number of fighters".Goldenblood sighed, levitated over a pencil, paper, and clipboard, and started making notes in tiny, neat little scratches as he listened attentively to how many numbers of fighters he’d be able to draft from the gangs, the newcomers, and the various mercenaries.
one, though.“I would have loved to have had one though.”
Eventually, weEventually we had a dream of getting into Tenpony.
"cap amount" sounds awkward here. I'd use "cap count" instead.not that many could reach that cap amount anyway, but still…
That response doesn't match. It would if she'd said, "I keep thinking about it", but she didn't. P-21 should have said "So am I."“I’m serious,” I said, running a hoof nervously through my mane. “The more I think about it…”
“I do too.”
Shouldn't that be "her inexperience"?Her trilling soprano rang out; she didn’t even seem to know the words, but the three legged mare and the beautiful unicorn mare adjusted to their inexperience.
So... he didn't answer, except that he immediately replied?“So… you were one of the four on the Seahorse.” He didn’t answer, just gave a little nod.
“Captain Nails,” he replied evenly. “Thanks for helping out with the attack.”
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:03 am
Ah, thank you.SilentCarto wrote:All right! I've got the new chapter, a few hours to burn, and some whiskey on the rocks. Let's do this!
- Chapter 70 Commentary:
Characterization? Of Homage? WHAT IS HAPPENING
(Yes, I'm being overly sarcastic. Still...)"Bad" is such a binary word. Let's say "desperate" instead.I grinned at Homage. “So you were a bad mare back then?”Did BJ ever have to actually put anything in that jar?...“One hundred caps for wasting thirty seconds of my time.” She thrust a hoof at a large, half-filled jar of caps on the counter; the label read ‘Blackjack’sStupid People’s Comments Fee’.Oh hey, is that Velvet Remedy over there?But Psalm shook her head again. “I don’t want to be a murderer again,” she whispered.
I smiled at her. As much as I knew she could be important in the battle, I couldn’t make her take up a life that had done her so much harm. “I’m sure you’ll find some way to help.” I stretched up and brushed her mane out of her eyes. “You have a second chance.”Speaking of which! Time for a USO show, apparently.Behind me, a musical note struck me like a shot. A voice rose above the babble of the crowd like a breaking sunrise and silenced the camp. The ponies moved back to give room to Velvet Remedy. No stage. No lights. Not even music, and yet with her voice alone she released a melody that rippled through the massed people like a wave.Woohoo!Thrush lay draped across the bow next to the battered gun turret, hat covering her head, a trio of rum bottles collected around her.Always nice to have a private joke you can share.Then I picked up one of the empty bottles, stuck it on my horn, and grinned at her.Double woohoo! Hugs for all old salts and seaponies!The water beside the boat splashed as a pink mare poked her head out. “The bottom is patched. Any more leaks, Seabiscuit?”I was absolutely not just wondering exactly the same thing.“Do you even have a port for his ship?” Thrush taunted with a smile.Well, fuck.“I thought she was going to shoot us even after we got that gun for her.”Don't tell me Cog has a backup plan to move the Tokomare if she can't re-aim Horizons..!Wait. I froze, staring ahead. Did that skyscraper just… move? I stared up at one of the shorter, sixty-story-tall black towers laced with wires and cables. I saw several of the cables go taut, accompanied by a moan of metal and a great thump. The tower swayed, and slowly moved upright. Then it went still.Eeheeheeheehee! Glee...I rolled my eyes again and said with a touch of sarcasm, “You wouldn’t happen to know where I can get my hooves on an IF-88 Ironpony, would you?”
He smiled. Of course he smiled…Ah. Right. The last few lockers.“This is a bad idea, Blackjack,” P-21 said as we teleported to the east side of the Miramare Air Station.I just realized that I had conflated Scalpel with Triage for most of the story. It's a pity that someone who was previously at least a marginally good pony has gone over to the Harbingers like this. Especially given that she's the one Rampage calls "Mom"...“Ha… bu…gah… wa?” the mare – Scalpel! That was the name! From Flank! – blustered. “Are you insane? She just said she killed him! Shoot now!” Her magic glowed around the gun of the pony next to her....huh. That was oddly pedestrian.In another, she suddenly had red stripes too, and a little note on the picture read ‘Shu needs to hide her magic zebra dyes better.’Huh. In nearly three years (sweet Celestia!) of reading this fic, I never once guessed that Rampage had no memories from before waking up in the crater because they'd been extracted well after the fact. Good show, Somber!But now it was clear why she couldn’t remember who she was: that memory had been removed. I could only imagine the anguish Twist must have felt at Shujaa’s death, only to carry her inside her. But what guilt had Peppermint felt, promising to live to a dying mother, and then wanting to end it after she killed her own baby? But it was as Rampage herself had said: not knowing sucks.I just... I don't even. I've completely lost the ability to even. I'm just gonna sit back and listen to Draft Punk here.The two strange ponies from Flank had set up a table and plugged cables into Applebot, who’d deployed two large speakers from her sides, and begun to play thumping, lively music with Sweetie Bot providing ‘live’ vocals.The real winner is the admiring mares.Brutus, Stronghoof, and Pain Train engaged in a flex off.That will never not be cute.Off to the side, Xanthe pranced quite happily to the music. Then she spotted me watching her and immediately flushed. “Hiding now,” the suit piped, and when I blinked, she was gone.I really wish BJ had gone over to encourage Candlewick to go after Dazzle.“Don’t worry about Toaster. We’ve been dealing with him for years. You worry about your battle. We’ll deal with ours.”Just as "horrible" as usual, Somber.Anyway, finally got the thing written and edited. It’s horrible... so sorry.Uh... either we're thinking of very, very different scenes, or you used that expression wrong. Or you're a very sick puppy.(swicked: Huzzah, the chapter is complete! And gosh, wasn't it grand? That Twist saving Peppermint scene had me in stitches!)
Good chapter. Somehow a lot more satisfying than the "eat, drink, and be merry" chapter of FoE. (Possibly the run to Miramare had something to do with that.) And IF-88 Ironpony! Woooo! When you get the super gun, you know all Hell is about to break loose.
Ante up.
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“I do too.”Shouldn't that be "her inexperience"?Her trilling soprano rang out; she didn’t even seem to know the words, but the three legged mare and the beautiful unicorn mare adjusted to their inexperience.So... he didn't answer, except that he immediately replied?“So… you were one of the four on the Seahorse.” He didn’t answer, just gave a little nod.
“Captain Nails,” he replied evenly. “Thanks for helping out with the attack.”
I asked about that too. Not that I can tell you the answer I got, of course… :)SilentCarto wrote:I'm rather curious how they'd pull that off, considering the state of the weather and the EBS network.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by CD Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:10 am
Okay, hightlights for this chapter.
The action at Miramare was classic Horizons action scene. I had just an inkling that when Amadi turns, the Harbingers would be useful idiots and a buffer to buy the Alliance some time. Even if it's only one position, the "You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head" advice from Soldier-jack should help them last longer.
We finally get a name for the good rapist (is there actually such a thing? Does BJ's forgiveness actually absolving him? The Christ-metaphor is strong with this one). And I don't know if Steel Rain's message was just hilariously close to the mark, or if he heard of Blackjack's ordeal. I hope it's the former, there's no telling what unsee-able things he did after hearing about the incident. Also, Scalpel became a real bitch, but I guess Blackjack mucked up her life in Flank but good.
And now we know Rampage's origins. That she was Peppermint didn't surprise me, but the ways in which that one memory scarred her for life to the point that she removed it has so many levels of angst. And now I wonder if Rampage's reaction to Blackjack editing Scotch Tape's mind can now be considered hypocrisy, a subconscious admission to herself she'd done the wrong thing, or she just didn't want to admit that some pain needs to be taken away. Now it's got me wondering if Rampage will actually be grateful to Blackjack for finding her hidden past, or if it makes her determined to tear out her throat. Or that maybe, she's been lying this whole time, and she does remember being Twist and Doof's rape child, and took great pains to try and forget. That would make her outrage at Scotch's memory wipe a conscious objection stemming from her own experience with memory alteration and its futility in curing mental trauma.
So this chapter has a few gems in it. All that 'universe conspiring against me' stuff at least didn't rob us of that. But personally, I'm more anxious to see how the confrontation with Cogs will go, and if Rampage can actually be saved from the Dark Side. Given how Somber's foreknowledge of who lives and dies at the end of Horizons, the characters all have the ghost of George R.R. Martin hanging over them like the Grim Reaper. The next chapters sound juicy.
The action at Miramare was classic Horizons action scene. I had just an inkling that when Amadi turns, the Harbingers would be useful idiots and a buffer to buy the Alliance some time. Even if it's only one position, the "You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head" advice from Soldier-jack should help them last longer.
We finally get a name for the good rapist (is there actually such a thing? Does BJ's forgiveness actually absolving him? The Christ-metaphor is strong with this one). And I don't know if Steel Rain's message was just hilariously close to the mark, or if he heard of Blackjack's ordeal. I hope it's the former, there's no telling what unsee-able things he did after hearing about the incident. Also, Scalpel became a real bitch, but I guess Blackjack mucked up her life in Flank but good.
And now we know Rampage's origins. That she was Peppermint didn't surprise me, but the ways in which that one memory scarred her for life to the point that she removed it has so many levels of angst. And now I wonder if Rampage's reaction to Blackjack editing Scotch Tape's mind can now be considered hypocrisy, a subconscious admission to herself she'd done the wrong thing, or she just didn't want to admit that some pain needs to be taken away. Now it's got me wondering if Rampage will actually be grateful to Blackjack for finding her hidden past, or if it makes her determined to tear out her throat. Or that maybe, she's been lying this whole time, and she does remember being Twist and Doof's rape child, and took great pains to try and forget. That would make her outrage at Scotch's memory wipe a conscious objection stemming from her own experience with memory alteration and its futility in curing mental trauma.
So this chapter has a few gems in it. All that 'universe conspiring against me' stuff at least didn't rob us of that. But personally, I'm more anxious to see how the confrontation with Cogs will go, and if Rampage can actually be saved from the Dark Side. Given how Somber's foreknowledge of who lives and dies at the end of Horizons, the characters all have the ghost of George R.R. Martin hanging over them like the Grim Reaper. The next chapters sound juicy.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by SilentCarto Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:06 am
Hehe. Point of order: Quite apart from targeting, does C1 require sunlight at the launch site, the target, or both? They cleared the sky at both sites in FoE.O. Hinds wrote:I asked about that too. Not that I can tell you the answer I got, of course… :)SilentCarto wrote:I'm rather curious how they'd pull that off, considering the state of the weather and the EBS network.
No, it's fine -- just an honest question, because I didn't remember seeing the jar before.swicked wrote:No, you see, because she's... well, because of how BJ's been in the past, Charity was thinking ahead, and then expanded it because of all the new customers and...SilentCarto wrote:Did BJ ever have to actually put anything in that jar?...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Silver136 Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:15 am
"Do you even have a port for his ship?". Laughed so hard...drunk Thrush is best pony.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by RoboRed Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:35 am
I'm pretty sure he was named way back at the Happyhorn chapter.CD wrote:
We finally get a name for the good rapist
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by CD Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:36 am
RoboRed wrote:I'm pretty sure he was named way back at the Happyhorn chapter.CD wrote:
We finally get a name for the good rapist
If that's so, it certainly didn't stick. And that is why you need to use glue in combination with nails if you want to be a throughout carpenter.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Vinylshadow Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:57 am
the word you are looking for is 'thorough'
Glue, nails and duct tape
Glue, nails and duct tape
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:47 am
SilentCarto wrote:I'm rather curious how they'd pull that off, considering the state of the weather and the EBS network.They’ll fire up Celestia One and burn anything that looks hostile to slag. The Core. The Brood. Your forces. With how complicated things are here, telling friends from enemies is too much trouble and too much of a risk compared to shooting everything that moves.
Do they need clear weather over the target? I was always under the impression they only needed clear weather over Tenpony. Still if Pip knows what's going on she still controls the weather everywhere but the Hoof if it fires I'd question why Pip would just allow it. Knowing she has the power to stop it.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Vinylshadow Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:04 pm
Pretty sure the weather over the Core isn't natural, so Pip can't control it
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:10 pm
@Swicked For tageting purposes or because the deathbeam can't penetrate cloud?
Vinyl, Tenpony isn't in the core. Nowhere near it in fact, I'm certain if you block the weather there, at Tenpony it can't fire.
Vinyl, Tenpony isn't in the core. Nowhere near it in fact, I'm certain if you block the weather there, at Tenpony it can't fire.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Scienza Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:32 pm
I think you mean the inverse. The weather over the Core is natural (it's because of the shape of the valley), so Pip would probably have more trouble controlling it than the weather she creates. She should still be able to work it though.Vinylshadow wrote:Pretty sure the weather over the Core isn't natural, so Pip can't control it
Also, yeah, the area over the target needs to be clear. That's what Gawd and the Talons were doing during the final battle in the original.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Guest Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:44 pm
Uhhh, My memory is so terrible, I thought they were clearing the skies over the tower.
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