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Post by Guest Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:50 pm

Good luck, dude!

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Post by WavemasterRyx Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:41 pm

Somber wrote:Sigh... okay. 63 is mostly done. Trying something different so hopefully I pull it off.
*hugs very gently* I have every confidence that it'll be a good chapter.

I'm really sorry things still aren't going well with your employment though... I really do hope you'll be alright, sir.

edit re-post: Also, hopefully maybe this will make you smile just a little: http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/72930115766
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Post by O. Hinds Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:47 pm

WavemasterRyx wrote:
Somber wrote:Sigh... okay.  63 is mostly done.  Trying something different so hopefully I pull it off.
*hugs very gently*  I have every confidence that it'll be a good chapter.

I'm really sorry things still aren't going well with your employment though...  I really do hope you'll be alright, sir.

edit re-post: Also, hopefully maybe this will make you smile just a little: http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/72930115766
Hee! :D
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Post by Vergil Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:28 am

Best of luck to you, Somber.

More from 54: "Wisps and vapors curled around us as we moved slowly along the road up the towards the clusters of reinforced buildings."

In the same paragraph, "The detritus almost like a scrapyard, there was so much ruin."
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Post by O. Hinds Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:47 am

Vergil wrote:Best of luck to you, Somber.

More from 54: "Wisps and vapors curled around us as we moved slowly along the road up the towards the clusters of reinforced buildings."

In the same paragraph, "The detritus almost like a scrapyard, there was so much ruin."
Ah, thank you.
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Post by FoolNeim Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:33 am

Somber wrote:Poorly.  I'm almost broke and I won't get my first paycheck till the 15th.  But I subbed 4/5 days this week, which is good.  I need to sub 20 days a month to make my expenses.  So I'll probably be a little short this month, but hopefully it won't be too bad... I hope.

As for the subbing, it's been fine.  two days at a middle school, two at a high school, no biggie.  I'm sure I'll screw up eventually... >.>  Right now I'm trying to get some english job applications together, but they require a passport... which is another 145 dollars for a passport book.  Sigh... So I'll fudge that part of the application and if they'll give me a job, THEN I'll get it.  ::Crosses fingers.::

Sent a small tip (I r working class atm). Forgot to say it was a tip jar tip. Hopefully you get enough tips this month to cover whatever you don't get from subbing. You know, tutoring can be decent work, if you can network that (hardest part). Or tutoring through a learning center or agency.
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Post by FoolNeim Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:05 am

Also, I finally read Chapter 62b, I'd sort of been preoccupied with other stuff before getting around to it. 'Twas a very good chapter, and I very well paced.

I'm really bad at in-depth critiques, especially when I find something generally quite entertaining, so I thought I'd just give some general feedback.

Since the chapters often come out a month or more apart, I'll often lose track of the names of all the more minor characters like Sky Striker or even Afterburner or whoever.

I was just thinking it might be good if you or one of the editors added like a glossary of important characters every few chapters (with their description and roles as of the time of the chapter) so people can get a better grip on what's what. Or maybe that's what the wiki's for and I'm really lazy.

Also, I really will be sad if there's only 3 more chapters. I figure the final "volume" won't be nearly as long as the others, but it seems like that's way too short to tie up everything.

Also, I know this is selfish but I kind of would like a somewhat happy ending for the principal characters after everything they've been through. I think the best ending would be for Blackjack to not have to sacrifice her life, so that she lives long enough to forgive herself naturally, for the all the weight she feels. Feels like it would take more than 3 chapters to accomplish both a gigantic finale and Blackjack finding some peace without forcing it on herself with a bullet.
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Post by Evilgidgit Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:46 am

Go show them who is awesome, Somber! And we all graciously look forward to this new chapter.  Spike
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Post by Silver136 Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:22 am

Best of luck to you Somber. I really hope you can get some decent work, and money along with it. Also really excited for the next chapter, though I do kind of agree with Foolneim that three chapters seems a little short to tie everything up.
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Post by Vergil Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:06 am

More from 54: "Something he was putting on because Lancer forced him too."
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Post by Icy Shake Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:45 pm

I wish you the best of luck with your continued search, Somber. I hope something steady works out soon.

FoolNeim wrote:Since the chapters often come out a month or more apart, I'll often lose track of the names of all the more minor characters like Sky Striker or even Afterburner or whoever.

I was just thinking it might be good if you or one of the editors added like a glossary of important characters every few chapters (with their description and roles as of the time of the chapter) so people can get a better grip on what's what. Or maybe that's what the wiki's for and I'm really lazy.
Well, it's far from comprehensive, and particularly weak in the single-digit chapters and from forty to fifty eight, but this may at least help: my character spreadsheet. (Incidentally, this prompted me to finally clean it up and sort it a bit this morning.) Comments are enabled on the document, should anyone want to suggest corrections or additions, but I want to keep versions consistent, so to see within cells you'd have to download the file(turns out that only applies to nonnative files hosted on drive) so direct editing isn't.

FoolNeim wrote:Also, I really will be sad if there's only 3 more chapters. I figure the final "volume" won't be nearly as long as the others, but it seems like that's way too short to tie up everything.
I kind of feel the same way, but I'd hardly be amazed if it ended up being more than that (think chapters thirty five to thirty nine, which were meant to be one chapter, or Hightower, which ended being up, I think, three) or exceptionally long ones (like sixty two). It'll be sad to see it end, but I'm expecting great things from the last volume.


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19: I thought about Arloste laying with Thorn between her hooves in the garage.
"Laying" to "lying," I believe.
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Post by O. Hinds Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:28 pm

Vergil wrote:More from 54: "Something he was putting on because Lancer forced him too."

Icy Shake wrote:I wish you the best of luck with your continued search, Somber. I hope something steady works out soon.

FoolNeim wrote:Since the chapters often come out a month or more apart, I'll often lose track of the names of all the more minor characters like Sky Striker or even Afterburner or whoever.

I was just thinking it might be good if you or one of the editors added like a glossary of important characters every few chapters (with their description and roles as of the time of the chapter) so people can get a better grip on what's what. Or maybe that's what the wiki's for and I'm really lazy.
Well, it's far from comprehensive, and particularly weak in the single-digit chapters and from forty to fifty eight, but this may at least help: my character spreadsheet. (Incidentally, this prompted me to finally clean it up and sort it a bit this morning.) Comments are enabled on the document, should anyone want to suggest corrections or additions, but I want to keep versions consistent, so to see within cells you'd have to download the file(turns out that only applies to nonnative files hosted on drive) so direct editing isn't.

FoolNeim wrote:Also, I really will be sad if there's only 3 more chapters. I figure the final "volume" won't be nearly as long as the others, but it seems like that's way too short to tie up everything.
I kind of feel the same way, but I'd hardly be amazed if it ended up being more than that (think chapters thirty five to thirty nine, which were meant to be one chapter, or Hightower, which ended being up, I think, three) or exceptionally long ones (like sixty two). It'll be sad to see it end, but I'm expecting great things from the last volume.


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19: I thought about Arloste laying with Thorn between her hooves in the garage.
"Laying" to "lying," I believe.
Ah, thank you both.
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Post by Rayndalf Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:47 pm

WavemasterRyx wrote:
edit re-post: Also, hopefully maybe this will make you smile just a little: http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/72930115766

Reminds me of this scene in Robot Chicken...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3NRcRJC8Yg#t=2m55s

Trickledown Economics and Reaganomics are the same thing, right?
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Post by Icy Shake Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:03 am

Rayndalf wrote:Trickledown Economics and Reaganomics are the same thing, right?
Eh, close enough for many (most?) purposes.

With the end of the story so close, I thought I'd swing back to the front end for a while, since I've never done a close editing/error-spotting pass on the first nine chapters. And I hit a decent break point as well, so no time like the present.

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Chapter One Editing Matters:
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Post by O. Hinds Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:52 am

Icy Shake wrote:
Rayndalf wrote:Trickledown Economics and Reaganomics are the same thing, right?
Eh, close enough for many (most?) purposes.

With the end of the story so close, I thought I'd swing back to the front end for a while, since I've never done a close editing/error-spotting pass on the first nine chapters. And I hit a decent break point as well, so no time like the present.

Chapter One Running Thoughts:
Chapter One Overall Thoughts:
Chapter One Editing Matters:
Ah, thank you very much as always.

Icy Shake wrote:"Chronic repeat" seems redundant.
…You know, I think I'll leave it in.  It sounds to me like something that Chapter 1 Blackjack would say.  :)

Icy Shake wrote:Suggest having the separators match, either both dashes or both ellipses.
Eh… I usually follow your advice in matters like this, but I don't think that it would preserve the tone here.  Sorry.

Icy Shake wrote:Now, I don't think it was the intention here, but this reminds me of how Littlepip left Stable Two, knocking out the two security guards by dropping something on their heads. Presumably with less idea of how much force would cause a concussion and less practice in all forms of combat. And they were just doing their jobs, jobs which weren't hurting anyone. So ever since I heard the radio drama, I've wondered a bit, did she rack up her first kill (or serious wounding, with head trauma–induced brain damage) before leaving the stable?

That is a good point.  Rose Eye would love to get her hooves on that little bit of premade propaganda...
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Post by Vergil Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:05 pm

Ch.55: "Did that bullet knock some extra smarts into of your brain, Blackjack?"

"The the button was pushed, then the next tried it."

"I tried to pick her red bar out from the others; it certain had to be the one moving the most."

"He nudged down the glasses enough to look at me with filmy purplish eye"
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Post by Scienza Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:48 pm

Somber wrote:Poorly.  I'm almost broke and I won't get my first paycheck till the 15th.  But I subbed 4/5 days this week, which is good.  I need to sub 20 days a month to make my expenses.  So I'll probably be a little short this month, but hopefully it won't be too bad... I hope.

As for the subbing, it's been fine.  two days at a middle school, two at a high school, no biggie.  I'm sure I'll screw up eventually... >.>  Right now I'm trying to get some english job applications together, but they require a passport... which is another 145 dollars for a passport book.  Sigh... So I'll fudge that part of the application and if they'll give me a job, THEN I'll get it.  ::Crosses fingers.::
Ouch, man. Good luck. Remember, do what you have to in order to be okay, even if it means delaying or outright killing PH. Your welfare is more important than our need for a new chapter.
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Post by SparkyTheDiamondDog Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:22 pm

@Somber I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but because Rampage is more or less a FMA:B homunculus, is it possible that her Phoenix talisman/Philosophers stone will ever run out of regenerative ability and shatter?
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Post by O. Hinds Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:28 pm

Vergil wrote:Ch.55: "Did that bullet knock some extra smarts into of your brain, Blackjack?"

"The the button was pushed, then the next tried it."

"I tried to pick her red bar out from the others; it certain had to be the one moving the most."

"He nudged down the glasses enough to look at me with filmy purplish eye"
Ah, thank you.
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Post by Scienza Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:47 pm

SparkyTheDiamondDog wrote:@Somber I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but because Rampage is more or less a FMA:B homunculus, is it possible that her Phoenix talisman/Philosophers stone will ever run out of regenerative ability and shatter?
Since it's powered by anywhere from eight to fifty souls, each of which is infinite (or as near to infinite as possible), I don't imagine that it'd run out at any foreseeable point
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Post by Icy Shake Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:46 pm

Scienza wrote:
SparkyTheDiamondDog wrote:@Somber I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but because Rampage is more or less a FMA:B homunculus, is it possible that her Phoenix talisman/Philosophers stone will ever run out of regenerative ability and shatter?
Since it's powered by anywhere from eight to fifty souls, each of which is infinite (or as near to infinite as possible), I don't imagine that it'd run out at any foreseeable point
Yeah, I personally think the more likely concern is Rampage's, that she may end up the last living thing in the universe. Also, from a plot and character arc perspective, well, it seems like if it just ran down or suddenly failed, well, that would be too easy, especially if it were to happen soon. She doesn't need to learn to accept who and what she is, she doesn't need to find what to do with her life, etc.
And from a practical standpoint, I suspect that powering a huge, impervious (dragon magic, being cheating, doesn't count), and invincible shield would exhaust the soul faster than regenerating does, and that may well overpower the (likely) greater starting point from having a true alicorn's soul as the source compared to a bunch of ponies' and a zebra's.

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Post by Scienza Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:06 pm

Icy Shake wrote:
Scienza wrote:
SparkyTheDiamondDog wrote:@Somber I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but because Rampage is more or less a FMA:B homunculus, is it possible that her Phoenix talisman/Philosophers stone will ever run out of regenerative ability and shatter?
Since it's powered by anywhere from eight to fifty souls, each of which is infinite (or as near to infinite as possible), I don't imagine that it'd run out at any foreseeable point
Yeah, I personally think the more likely concern is Rampage's, that she may end up the last living thing in the universe. Also, from a plot and character arc perspective, well, it seems like if it just ran down or suddenly failed, well, that would be too easy, especially if it were to happen soon. She doesn't need to learn to accept who and what she is, she doesn't need to find what to do with her life, etc.
And from a practical standpoint, I suspect that powering a huge, impervious (dragon magic, being cheating, doesn't count), and invincible shield would exhaust the soul faster than regenerating does, and that may well overpower the (likely) greater starting point from having a true alicorn's soul as the source compared to a bunch of ponies' and a zebra's.
I've just got this image of Rampage sitting in front of a circle of foals, telling the legend of the Security Mare centuries after the end of the story.

Also, this has probably been debated to death, but could the star-sword (or Key or whatever we're calling it) destroy the Phoenix Talisman, therefore killing Rampage? It was able to destroy soul jars in the past, so presumably the Phoenix Talisman would just take longer due to the crazy number of souls.
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Post by Icy Shake Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:13 pm

Scienza wrote:I've just got this image of Rampage sitting in front of a circle of foals, telling the legend of the Security Mare centuries after the end of the story.

Also, this has probably been debated to death, but could the star-sword (or Key or whatever we're calling it) destroy the Phoenix Talisman, therefore killing Rampage? It was able to destroy soul jars in the past, so presumably the Phoenix Talisman would just take longer due to the crazy number of souls.
I pretty much figure "Why not?" What I don't remember is if Rampage knows that it can destroy soul jars. I have to assume she doesn't, because otherwise I figure she'd ask Blackjack to give it a shot. And if Rampage doesn't know, well, Blackjack has shown no interest in actually helping her die, no matter the promises she makes to the contrary. But if Rampage finds out Blackjack was hiding this from her, I expect there'll be some fireworks, because she was pretty unhappy about learning that Blackjack had Folly and never told her.
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And 63 is out! There's a lot of good stuff in this one. :D
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Post by Vergil Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:29 am

Nice! I'm going to try and wait on tthat since I'm back up to 55, so hopefully I can ignore posts till then...
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Post by WavemasterRyx Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:38 am

*hugs Somber and Hinds each gently*

Well, I have my copy downloaded, hopefully I'll be able to read it tonight.  I'm glad you were able to get through the brushing okay.
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Post by SilentCarto Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:47 am

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And 63 is out!  There's a lot of good stuff in this one.  :D
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Post by O. Hinds Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:04 am

Icy Shake wrote:
Scienza wrote:
SparkyTheDiamondDog wrote:@Somber I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but because Rampage is more or less a FMA:B homunculus, is it possible that her Phoenix talisman/Philosophers stone will ever run out of regenerative ability and shatter?
Since it's powered by anywhere from eight to fifty souls, each of which is infinite (or as near to infinite as possible), I don't imagine that it'd run out at any foreseeable point
Yeah, I personally think the more likely concern is Rampage's, that she may end up the last living thing in the universe. Also, from a plot and character arc perspective, well, it seems like if it just ran down or suddenly failed, well, that would be too easy, especially if it were to happen soon. She doesn't need to learn to accept who and what she is, she doesn't need to find what to do with her life, etc.
And from a practical standpoint, I suspect that powering a huge, impervious (dragon magic, being cheating, doesn't count), and invincible shield would exhaust the soul faster than regenerating does, and that may well overpower the (likely) greater starting point from having a true alicorn's soul as the source compared to a bunch of ponies' and a zebra's.

Chapter Two Running Thoughts:
Chapter Two Overall Thoughts:
Chapter Two Editing:
Other Editing:
Ah, thank you very much as always.

Icy Shake wrote:Whoa. A PH chapter that doesn't compress the box on the GDocs scrollbar to the minimum size? Let's see . . . barely over 12,000 words after removing start and end material—what is this madness!?
Hey, give us a break; it was early days. :D
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Post by skibadaa Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:13 am

YEAHH! New story arc commence!  Have an Ultra Sentinel: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion - Page 8 Robronco_ultra_sentinel_by_skibadaa-d71zo9a
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Post by Train Dodger Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:53 am

This chapter brings with it some interesting revelations indeed.

Overview:

Chapter 63 Proofing:

Oh, and also:

CH57: Bottlecap continued, “Ursury, Caprice, and I are the daughters he’s confirmed are his.  Charity…”

Typo: [Ursury] > [Usury]
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