Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[CamoBadger]

As for storyline? Nothing has been confirmed as of yet, same for the enemies.

Well, knowing Bethesda's creativity, we can probably expect another omfg_super_hidden faction of the Enclave.

We can only hope that they'll give the next game after that to Obsidian again. They'll probably be done with Project Eternity by that time.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. It's a super secret hidden branch of the Brotherhood this time! See, it's different!

[Harmony Ltd.]

I wonder how they'd go about making a Fallout MMO.


Spike : " Why is there suddenly so many Heroes in the Wasteland ?!"
Red Eye : *shrug* " How should I know ? "
??? : " DO NOT LISTEN TO THAT PATHETIC AND MISERABLE IDOT. IT IS SIMPLY THE SIGN THAT OUR HOUR HAS FINALLY COME ! "
BlackJack : " You know what time it is ? Time to crash your Great and Powerful delusion once and for all, Trixie ! "
G&PG : " WHO LET YOU HERE ? AS IF IT MATTERED, YOU MISERABLE INSECT. "
BJ : *drop to the ground, shaking*
G&PG : " THIS BEING TAKEN CARE OF... "
??? : " Hello... "
G&PG : " WHAT. WHO IS... YOU ?! "
??? : " Oh, don't mind me... "

*balefire explosion*

[Frost]

^.....What?

[Harmony Ltd.]

It began as me being random about the FoE universe being suddenly full of heroes (reference to the many side-story fanfics out there).

Then it jus..; I dunno. Littlepip blowing up the Goddess for shit and giggle ?

[Frost]

As ya know, Iron and I solved the problem by setting the story 50 years later. Most other stories seem to avoid having the characters interact with those from the main plot line if it can be helped at all.

[tylertoon2]

While your use of the word "addicting" instead of "addictive" is a pet peeve of mine,

Use "addicting" instead of "addictive" around only Ketchup. Got it.


Also all these Ed, Edd, and Eddy posts are making me want to watch it now. Dammit you guys.

Well, there's another similarity between sex with me and a knife fight.

I don't go in through a preexisting hole. I make a new one.

Just a normal day in the Project Horizons chat thread.

Looks like I have a new sig.

[Harmony Ltd.]

But to come back on the Fallout MMO and my randomness, I was basically wondering how they would avoid their Fallout MMO looking like a bad caricature of the FoE sidefic world.

[Frost]

Perhaps set it in a more "recovered" place like Mojave and relegate them to more "low-key" mercenary and soldier work instead of "Wasteland Hero" stuff

[Harmony Ltd.]

Probably.

What's funny is that the NCR has just a bit more than 700,000 citizen, and by the first month the players would have likely killed more than 150,000 raiders or something

[Harmony Ltd.]

Lol.

"World of Fallout"

Just try to picture that in your mind.

[Ketchup]

Interplay was developing it, and Bethesda crushed them with copyright trash.
This happened a year ago, it's in a sort of limbo.

[Harmony Ltd.]

To be fair, Interplay wouldn't have been able to publish a game to save their lives. Literally. Better to take the risk of Bethesda screwing it up, than be certain it never gets out.

[Harmony Ltd.]

And to choose between bad and worse, at least it's Bethesda who got the rights to the Fallout franchise, and not Bioware.

[Frost]

To be fair, Mass Effect was a fucking brilliant franchise right up until the end

[Valikdu]

FUSION MEGASPELL, ENGAGE

What has science done?:

To be even more fair; there aren't many alternatives at this day and age, are there?
There's Obsidian. And maybe Brian Fargo's inXile will do something good with Wasteland 2. And... um... that's it, I guess.

[Harmony Ltd.]

I'm pretty meh about Bioware's writing abilities. What I know is that any of their games I've have played suffered from the same failings in my eyes.

I know I found Fallout 3 good, but nothing more ; while I absolutely loved New Vegas. So I take from it that Obsidian may be a better choice.

[Frost]

The thing I kind of hate about Fallout is the weapons degradation thing.

You have an extremely durable weapon if it lasts 5,000 shots, but in real life no bolt-action would be even considered except by the poorest of the poor unless it could go at least 3,000 rounds before you even need to clean it, and with regular maintenance an assault rifle can last for generations.

[Harmony Ltd.]

I know, right ?

It was introduced with Fallout 3. Previously weapons didn't degrade. Depending on your luck they just had a random chance to jam or explode in your hands on a critical miss.

Instead of making weapons rare and hard to find, they just made them easy to break just in order to be able to launch hordes of mooks at you without completely breaking the game's economy.

Previously the problem was solved with enemies being relatively rare (apart if you went trekking into the wasteland to grind), and each fight was deadly and unforgiving, even at high level - even at level 20 and with the best suit of Power-Armor you didn't laugh when encountering an Enclave patrol as they could kill you in the first round before you could do anything.

That's my problem with the new fallout games : combat is completely broken.

[CamoBadger]

The thing I kind of hate about Fallout is the weapons degradation thing.

You have an extremely durable weapon if it lasts 5,000 shots, but in real life no bolt-action would be even considered except by the poorest of the poor unless it could go at least 3,000 rounds before you even need to clean it, and with regular maintenance an assault rifle can last for generations.

You know, except that all those weapons and parts have been laying around for 200 years getting beaten, battered, and used constantly.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Uh, uhm... In the Vegas Wasteland most of these weapons have been built post-war, and recently, by the Gun-Runners and other gunsmiths.

[CamoBadger]

Uh, uhm... In the Vegas Wasteland most of these weapons have been built post-war by the Gun-Runners.

With 200 year old machinery and supplies

[Harmony Ltd.]

Tell me again what tools use the guys in Baghdad who will build you an AK-47 from scrap-metal ? I'm sure even those guns will last a bit more than 3,000 shots.

[CamoBadger]

Build an AK? Lolnope. They buy those from China/India/Saudi Arabia/Russia/USA/other places everywhere

[Harmony Ltd.]

Well, okay then. My bad.

Still, they've also had 200 years to scavenge adequate machine-tools.

I mean, canonically the Gun Runners in Fallout 1 were able to build Plasma Rifles (what is the plasma caster in New Vegas), IIRC at least.

[Frost]

What I mean is that, even if you use your maxed-out repair skill to get an assault rifle to mint condition, you have a few hundred--a thousand shots before it breaks, during which time it also somehow makes the bullets less damaging as it degrades

[CamoBadger]

Eh, I know nothing of FO lore outside of:
Steel Rangers want yo stuff!
Enclave hate you!
VAULTS SUCK
Don't fuck with Deathclaws
There are apparently Aliens

[Frost]

They're the Brotherhood of Steel in FO, and they mostly just want yo hi-tech stuff.

Except for the Capital Chapter, who go around helping people because they're just nice like that.

[CamoBadger]

Oh yeah, and I call half of the things in Fallout by their FOE counterpart...because I read FOE before I played any Fallout.

So they're Steel Rangers, Alicorns, Stables, Pip-bucks, stealth-bucks, and balefire bombs

[Harmony Ltd.]

Eh, I know nothing of FO lore outside of:
Steel Rangers want yo stuff!

It's "Brotherhood of Steel", ya dummy.

There are apparently Aliens

More exactly, there's a race of genetically modified organisms intended to be used as a bio-weapon by the US called "wanamingos", and a race of Alien I don't know anything about 'cause I haven't played Mothership Zeta.

[CamoBadger]

There are apparently Aliens

More exactly, there's a race of genetically modified organisms intended to be used as a bio-weapon by the US called "wanamingos".

Oh look an Alien reference!

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