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I could see, Berry, being a Slaneesh cultist.
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I could see Twilight being a Tzeentch-servant, then going insane because it doesn't make sense.
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Mister Frost wrote:
Heresy
guarddogjr wrote:
HERESY
CamoBadger wrote:
HERESY!
Brb contacting the Inquisition.
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Vergil wrote:Mister Frost wrote:
Heresyguarddogjr wrote:
HERESYCamoBadger wrote:
HERESY!
Brb contacting the Inquisition.
Brb cutting your phone-line, sabotaging your car, and stealing your mail.
and my OC is secretly fooling around with Camo's mare
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BRB Ordo Exterminatus.
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AFK summoning tzeentchian daemons to stop you.
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Hate to burst your bubble, I was just analyzing them to see what sort of heresy they might be partaking in. Such is the sanctioned duty of all the Emperor's servants, after all
"The grave of Martyrs is the keystone of the Imperium"
Besides. I've got better things to do than be accused of such foul heresies by such a vile creature as you, bear-lover.
"The grave of Martyrs is the keystone of the Imperium"
Besides. I've got better things to do than be accused of such foul heresies by such a vile creature as you, bear-lover.
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Mister Frost wrote:
Besides. I've got better things to do than be accused of such foul heresies by such a vile creature as you, bear-lover.
Space Wolves? ON MY PLANET? MORE SOULS TO FEAST UPON!
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The Space Wolves, like all Astartes, are crippled by their arrogance. We, the men and women of the Imperial Guard, who give our very lives to the Emperor's will... It is we who win wars. We shall march forth through a river of our blood, atop hills of our own broken bodies that we may crush the God-Emperor's foes beneath our feet.
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Impulse directive issued: Read PH.
Status: 'Ere we go!
Status: 'Ere we go!
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IncoherentOrange wrote:Impulse directive issued: Read PH.
Status: 'Ere we go!
Aaaaaaaand he's gone.
He'll come up for air in a few months.
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60% of this thread is now Frost replying to Iron replying to Frost replying to CamoBadger talking about 40k.
We need a 40k thread, go create one Iron.
We need a 40k thread, go create one Iron.
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Wait...I started a 40K discussion somehow? I don't even know anything about that!
Well, back to lurking for me.
Well, back to lurking for me.
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Has anyone else here read Emperor's Child in Equestria?
it's a second person (ugh, I know, but bear with me please), 40k crossover fic (obviously), it's mostly /tg/-ian 40k stuff, so there's the Disco Marines, Doomrider (WHO DOES COCAINE!!!), and probably lots more to come, plus it also does a pretty good job at explaining the chaos gods from a chaos perspective, something we rarely see
it's a second person (ugh, I know, but bear with me please), 40k crossover fic (obviously), it's mostly /tg/-ian 40k stuff, so there's the Disco Marines, Doomrider (WHO DOES COCAINE!!!), and probably lots more to come, plus it also does a pretty good job at explaining the chaos gods from a chaos perspective, something we rarely see
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I'd like to go create one but I'm going to be aggravated if I make it and it doesn't get used. Same goes for a gun thread.
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Ironmonger wrote:...I wasn't even aware it was messing with the stars..and of the star vision...well crap I need to go back and read my stuff, this forgetting things is starting become bull.
CamoBadger wrote:It was? All I remember from that little dream was her seeing stars and stuff...of course the chapter just seemed like filler to me so that might be why I don't remember any of it.
Oh dear oh dear. Apparently a lot of people skimmed over the Star Vision from chapter 34.Ketchup wrote:I remember nothing of the sort about the shards and such being Luna and Celestia and the Bright Star is entirely new to me. I don't know how I miss these things.
If you don't clearly remember it, I strongly recommend you go back and read it carefully. It's beautiful writing, but even that aside, it's very important information! The vision is the mission statement for the entire rest of the story. It explains the nature of stars, the background of the Eater, and other important information.
In fact, y'know what? I'm gonna do a Cliff's Notes annotated version of the chapter here. If nothing else it'll be a good discussion that doesn't have to do with guns or derailing.
My comments in italics.
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Wow... stars...
They weren’t just lights in the sky. Well... they were. But they were other things as well. [...] They were luminous things... Strange and unusual and powerful... some kind, most politely indifferent. Some were the shapes of wheels and eyes and brahmin. Others were strange patterns that twisted and seemed to sing notes of music my mind couldn’t understand.
So, not all stars are evil, as the Zebras believe. We heard as much before, that asking the stars for help is treacherous; that they aren't evil, but they're so different that their responses may not be what mortals would want from them. At the very least, a good number of them are utterly alien, and likely what we would consider eldritch abominations.
And some were ponies, glowing outlines that frolicked as they sang their music together, their individual notes rising and falling and growing and blending with the notes of the other things that shared this great expanse. They filled the void with [...] their harmony. Other beings flitted among them and spread chaos and discord to stir up new melodies and music they could not create themselves.
First important piece of information! Aside form the obvious reference to Discord and creatures like him, "Some were ponies." Not "similar to ponies" or "shaped like ponies" -- they are ponies. That means what we're talking about here are souls. Stars are souls.
I looked back behind me at a round ball orbited by two lights, one pale and beautiful and the other bright and radiant. But the world they revolved around was dark and ominous. What of my friends?
The song turned mournful. There was nothing I could do now [...]
I saw other worlds with other lights. Some orbited distant radiant orbs. Others had dozens of expectant motes above them as they sang down their own melodies. But all these worlds were bright with countless twinkling specks, like glitter or dew. And I watched as one of these luminary beings grew bright, and in a burst of light and song disappeared. The glowing cloud left behind spread, and new lights began to settle on other worlds or birth new luminary beings. Even these things were not eternal.
We have planets with life -- souls -- on them, and these lights, these stars, sometimes die and let their essence scatter down to seed life on a new world. A star is not a soul, then; it's a whole planet's worth of souls all together.
But in that darkness beyond their light, I felt certain there were things that were [eternal].
I looked back at my world. There were so few glimmering lights, and there seemed to be almost a spider’s web of shadow draped over the entire world. Some light escaped... but most seemed caught in that dark web covering everything. The light of those orbiting spheres couldn’t reach most of the world, try as they might to find some gap in the darkness and shadows.
What the hell had happened?
Something is wrong with Equestria. It's damaged, broken. She asks the question, and she gets an answer:
The hooves holding me tightened, and off to the side I heard another note rise. It accompanied a star glowing with a fierce blue-white corona. A pony... no. An alicorn, proud and regal and glorious. He spread his wings wide and sang his note loud and gloriously across the heavens. He drove back those shadows beyond and all things that dwelled within. Such was he that his song drowned out all others as he swelled with pride. I expected the star to eventually stop and take a break, but he didn’t. Instead, he grew along with his volume.
It grew to the point where the melody of the those luminary bodies was drowned out. Grew to where it became almost painful. I kept waiting for him to burst as the others had and let something new take his place. [...] It was if he were trying to fill all the universe with the single overwhelming note! He struggled with the strain, the note transforming into a scream.
Spoilers, the Bright Star here is the Eater of Souls. This scream is the single-note hum the Harbingers (which, if you recall, Blackjack saw in her drowning near-death vision -- the one with Evil Overlord P-21 -- before she ever met the real Harbingers). It's his song, twisted by pride and vanity.
Harmony is a literal power of the universe; the spirits of the stars hold back the dark things Outside by singing, and they draw strength from cooperation and harmony. The Bright Star ignored that and tried to do it all himself, and when he failed....
Then he exploded. It was not a gentle burst of lifegiving light. No, this explosion was raw and violent as his scream echoed to the farthest corners of the universe. Then his cloud fell inward; he would not die as the other luminous ones had, would not share his life. His blue glow contracted and darkened. Something that was a star hardened and transformed from light to something dark and base. And still it screamed, tearing at the melody around it.
Not only is he hurting himself, he's screwing up the song that holds back the Things Outside. The stars have to stop that.
Finally, a blue radiance altered its place in the heavens and plunged straight at the screaming mass. It sang its own ominous melody as it plunged in faster and faster towards the sullen ember, one song combating the other as they closed together. The impact and the blast of light filled the skies as the blue luminescence died and the screaming ember shattered. Only a dark and twisted core remained, tumbling through the heavens like a heart of black iron. Its scream rendered pitiful and thin, it flew towards that darkness untouched by the stars.
The Eater is no longer a universal power. He's enough to threaten one world, but not the entire cosmos, and what's left has been exiled to the Outer Darkness. All it cost was one star's soul.
But by chance a world, green and rife with the tiny specks of ghost light, drifted too near. The twisted remains curved towards it, speeding as they plunged towards the highest snow-capped mountain. The blast shattered the great peak, blasting it apart into flying stone. An immense pillar of cinder and flame shot up, raining down in an ever-widening circle of destruction. More mountains split and shattered, vomiting great torrents of fire and surging floods of magma. The forests transformed into sheets of flame. The seas were poisoned by ash and pieces of the star. The sky was rendered black with clouds. Those fragile motes and their infant songs snuffed out in an instant.
Hi, Lavos. So whatever early life had started there got instantly destroyed. Extinction event. Later, BJ has a dream that melds her into one of Psalm's memories, and they were talking about how magic-filled gemstones only started appearing after an extiction-level impact. This is that impact, that wiped out the dinosaurs and started seeding fantastic gems (rather than the realistic ones we have) into Equestria.
[...]Where the dread heart had fallen was a vast bowl filled with black rock. The heart, its spiteful malice sated, slumbered, its hateful note dropping to a whisper. Rain fell, washing out the dust and smoke and filling the bowl with a deep lake of dark water.
The Hoof forms around the Eater's tomb.
Tiny patches of life began to grow beneath the passing sun and moon. [...] And then those motes of life began to sing their own simple melodies. Their songs became more complex, rising and falling and evolving. [...] then zebras came to it with their songs and their dances. They built their homes and temples and finally a city. Most had no idea what was beneath them... but for some, sleep was troubled as the star droned its hateful tune. And from the pain it caused came inspiration for magic dark and foul. [...] With magic and sorcery, the zebras called forth the fallen star and bade it rise. Return to the heavens. Thousands were offered in sacrifice, their screams rising up until the heavens could no longer bear them, and one star plunged down to silence it forever.
And that's where the zebra idea that stars are evil comes from -- They called on a star, and one came and wiped them out in an instant.
[...] But the dark heart was still not destroyed; it caught the falling star and consumed the luminescent being within. Only two specks escaped... one rising to the sun... the other to the moon.
Celestia and Luna, respectively.
[...] The star once more whispered and tempted, ensnaring the heart of a beautiful princess and turning her against her sister... but the sister wisely banished her from the earth and to the moon where the glowing light could leech out her poison and venom till a chance at redemption was possible.
[...]when foolishness and wickedness stirred in the hearts of pony and zebra alike, that thing hummed its hateful note once more. This time, however, as ponies and zebras died, not all their tiny motes returned above. Many, a small fraction, but still so many, were snared in the spider’s web and whisked to the dark heart, there to scream the dark note. Waiting. Tempting another star to fall and be devoured so that the heart could be freed.
[...]
It was too big. Too much. Even for me. And the glowing ponies around me agreed in their song.
But that was the point...
Of course it was too big for one pony. For one anything! That was why the single star with its single note had failed. Not even these glowing stars could keep back the darkness alone. It was when they worked together, combining their songs and changing... growing... that they could drive that vast and terrible darkness back. Harmony, not power, was their strength. Life, not destruction, was how they won.
This is more or less the theme of the entire story stated outright for us.
So why didn’t they help us? Here their song changed. Why help a world so close to complete failure? How could they spare more luminaries when every last one was needed? Some calmly, perhaps callously, suggested that we clean up the mess ourselves. The help of others would be of little use; what good would it do ponies to be transformed into spires of singing gelatin?
Or possibly puddles of orange Tang.
And this last bit I've left outside the spoiler tag, because it relates to a discussion a few pages back.
Chapter 34 wrote:
I had to go back. I couldn’t be here while Glory... P-21... all of them were there. Make me a ghoul. A ghost. A monsterpony. Anything! I couldn’t sing with the others and leave them down there. I had to do something. Anything. Whatever it took. They mattered more than me!
This final note is what I would throw into the conversation about whether or not Glory was right to bring Blackjack back. The cybridization didn't HAVE to work. BJ had the option -- the choice -- to stay in the afterlife with the stars. He body would die and she would remain. She chose to go back. Whatever your analysis of Glory's choices, all her efforts did were to give Blackjack the opportunity to come back. She never forced BJ into it. Even if BJ doesn't remember making that choice.
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stringtheory wrote:Has anyone else here read Emperor's Child in Equestria?
it's a second person (ugh, I know, but bear with me please), 40k crossover fic (obviously), it's mostly /tg/-ian 40k stuff, so there's the Disco Marines, Doomrider (WHO DOES COCAINE!!!), and probably lots more to come, plus it also does a pretty good job at explaining the chaos gods from a chaos perspective, something we rarely see
I'm tracking that story currently. I am still FILLED WITH RAGE that our favorite swell guy still hasn't made an appearance
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I suppose this is as good a time as any to reveal that SilentCarto and I are also identical twins.IncoherentOrange wrote:Brothers? Twins, identical.
(Well, our epigenomes are different, which produced subtle differences. For example, Ketchup's voice is deeper.)
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...It's like this group is one big family or something...o_O
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FeatherDust wrote:I suppose this is as good a time as any to reveal that SilentCarto and I are also identical twins.IncoherentOrange wrote:Brothers? Twins, identical.
(Well, our epigenomes are different, which produced subtle differences. For example, Ketchup's voice is deeper.)
What if I told you Iron and I are also twins!?
Well, what would happen is that I'd be lying, of course.
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Identical twins aren't very rare, we just stand out because there's two of us. Provided, of course, that the pair is the same sex and they are near each other frequently. I'm called "Brother Warman" by some because they've given up at guessing.
Also, thanks a lot Feather, I must've skipped that bit over because I remember being somewhat fatigued when I read it and if you look at a few words, it looks like a bunch of adjectives. Scenery. But I now know a lot more about all this crazy star stuff.
Also, thanks a lot Feather, I must've skipped that bit over because I remember being somewhat fatigued when I read it and if you look at a few words, it looks like a bunch of adjectives. Scenery. But I now know a lot more about all this crazy star stuff.
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...am I the only one here who's sibling despises MLP?
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CamoBadger wrote:...am I the only one here who's sibling despises MLP?
Nope, my actual brother (older, not twin) dismisses it as "gay".
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Elder sister does, I don't know about my younger sister.CamoBadger wrote:...am I the only one here who's sibling despises MLP?
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Only child master race reporting for duty.
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My brother is pretty okay with it, so are my parents. There are a surprising amount of bronies in my area thanks to me, I actually got a conversion rate started within my group for MLPFIM and Sabaton.
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It's not that odd. Twins (even more so than other sibling pairs) tend to have similar tastes, and tend to talk a lot, so if one of us runs across an awesome story, there's almost always a recommendation to the other. And then when you want to DISCUSS the story, it's like "Oh, hey, there's a thread for that right over here, let me send you a link."Ironmonger wrote:...It's like this group is one big family or something...o_O
So it's really not that surprising.
(Also, apropos of nothing, my favorite joke is when somebody sees us together and asks, "Oh! Are you twins?" And I reply nonchalantly, "Well, I am, but he's not." My favorite response is when they start to nod, then get this confused look and start into "...wait, how...?" and then I laugh and they start swatting at me for being a smartass.)
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Breaking someone's logic is always fun.
Not a case of twins but something similar, I'm an exact look-alike of my dad, just much larger. I think I've said this somewhere in the past but it came to mind and therefore is valid. *smartface activated*
Not a case of twins but something similar, I'm an exact look-alike of my dad, just much larger. I think I've said this somewhere in the past but it came to mind and therefore is valid. *smartface activated*
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Funny, but I like to reply with a flat "yes".FeatherDust wrote:
(Also, apropos of nothing, my favorite joke is when somebody sees us together and asks, "Oh! Are you twins?" And I reply nonchalantly, "Well, I am, but he's not." My favorite response is when they start to nod, then get this confused look and start into "...wait, how...?" and then I laugh and they start swatting at me for being a smartass.)
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I can't bring it anywhere near my family, lest I risk being insulted (which I don't mind because I just do it straight back, as is my family's way), and then ignored when others are around because my parents think that if I show my bronyness in any way then everybody around will think I'm a pedophile, and that they're bad parents for raising their son so that he would watch such a show.
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