Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[NoodleNugget]

I'm gonna have to stick to my guns here. Somber stated this is pretty much completely unheard of in the Stable and apparently it's the first time she encounters it in the wastes. So I still think there's a sentence missing where BJ asks why.

But that's kind of my point. If Glory said, "I don't like hoofball," would BJ be full of questions about that particular preference, or just shrug and say, "Okay, you don't like hoofball"? She didn't say BJ couldn't watch hoofball, or go to a game with friends of a similar inclination, or even hold an informal two-on-two game in the back yard. She just indicated that she doesn't have any interest in it herself.

I should clarify that I am not actually talking about hoofball.

I am talking about sex.

I think it's funny that earlier people were complaining that the song 'Love Is Bloom' is too christian idealistic. but as soon as something like polygamy is brought up everyone starts getting huffy.

I personally am hoping for a ménage à trois. Glory doesn't have to like it at first but hopefully it will work out.

[Guest]

But that's kind of my point. If Glory said, "I don't like hoofball," would BJ be full of questions about that particular preference, or just shrug and say, "Okay, you don't like hoofball"? She didn't say BJ couldn't watch hoofball, or go to a game with friends of a similar inclination, or even hold an informal two-on-two game in the back yard. She just indicated that she doesn't have any interest in it herself.

Generally when your interested in someone you do ask questions. If "Hoofball" was at her stables core she probably would have questions for Glory. Look I don't think Polygamy(Well it's not polygamy but I don't Know the proper term for it.) is wrong, however it is something you should probably work out with you partner. Anyway silent if you want to continue this discussion send me an E-mail. I feel like this is becoming a "Drop it please." discussion.

[O. Hinds]

It's simple; most of us grew up knowing that heterosexual monogamous relationships were the only form of love that was honest or genuine, and that anything outside of that was perverted and evil.

Wow. I don't think that I've ever heard it explained that clearly. I know that I'm actually the minority here, but from my point of view that's a really warped upbringing.

...are you being sarcastic? Why would you think you're in the minority here?

I was using "here" to mean "on this issue" not "in this location". I apologize for the confusion.

[Quotidian]

I swear, I leave you guys to your own devices for a few months and looks what happens. You fill up two more threads ON ANOTHER WEBSITE. Madness I say! Madness!

(Oh, and hi again everyone. I'm back for real this time.)

On a more related note, I can't be the only one who really enjoyed this chapter, can I? I mean, sure, it wasn't perfect. It was pretty obviously a transition chapter, and Stygius seemed to come pretty much out of nowhere. (Although maybe there's some backstory there we'll be getting later.) And sure, some people might get a bit squicked out by the more risque segments. (Although why people who are bothered by that are okay with reading a story about the technicolor pony post-apocalypse in the first place is beyond me.)

Aside from his out-of-nowhere appearance, I actually found Stygius pretty endearing. (This means that he's going to die horribly in the next chapter, of course. Along with Boo, Glory, and the last vestiges of my ability to feel joy.) The Batpony back story bit was pretty cool too.

In fact, all of the world-building bits were cool. Goldenblood getting some character development, the first appearance of Trottenheimer as something other than a melted skeleton, a closer look at Littlehorn, and Luna's transformation. (Holy crap, the zebras were right!) Even the geology lesson was cool. Meteor-Cthulhu killed the dinosaurs? Gemstones are their crystallized souls? Awesome. I even managed to sympathize with Goldenblood, if only for a moment.

If I had to pick out the thing I liked least about the chapter, (and I do, because I'm kind of a dick that way), it was the BJ/Stygius bits. Not because I'm necessarily opposed to a little flank spanking now and then, or even because BJ's cheating on Glory, which seemed completely in character (especially considering she was raised in 99) and will probably crop up later. Frankly, I just don't buy that she could get over what happened on the Seahorse that easily. I'm probably jumping to conclusions here, and Somber has something else up his sleeve, but I just don't like the idea that all it takes to fix that level of trauma is a pep-talk and some "exposure therapy".

All in all, it wasn't spectacular, but it certainly wasn't a screw-up by any measure, and I'm looking forward to the next one.

(Also hi Somber!)

[Sindri]

[Goldenblood]

Goldy isn't actually that charsimatic; he never makes a good first impression, he rarely manages to convince anypony of anything unless they're right on the balancing point of the decision... yes he's fairly intelligent and makes incredibly convoluted, long-term plans accounting for almost all available variables. But he got what power he has through care and work over the course of decades, and even with that he makes mistakes, he fails to account for details, and without his elaborate set-ups and his legion of minions he'd be completely powerless. He's definitely less of a Sue than Red Eye in any case.

In D&D terms, he's the guy who rolled a 14 Int, 11 Cha, and 3s in everything else, so he compensates for it with good roleplaying and a truly ridiculous amount of time formulating plans and contingencies.

If any of Lionheart's generation of Luna's guards were pegasai, they were likely altered physically by Luna's magic and turned into batponies as per the second batpony origin story...

Both origin stories were for the original Lunar Guard, before Nightmare Moon. It's possible that the batponies returned after Luna's return, but I got the impression from Styg that they'd been in isolation for much longer than the two hundred years since the apocalypse; they were fleeing genocide after NMM's banishment, and if batponies had reemerged into Equestrian society they would have been better known. It's canon in Fo:E that the royal Guard wore armor with uniform enchantments; Luna had traditionally had batpony guards before her banishment, so after her return if they couldn't be found (which makes perfect sense given that their lives depended on how well they could hide, and it had been a thousand years since they'd been seen) she would have designed the enchantment on her Guards' uniforms to match her old friends, assumed lost.

And yes, if you assume that the modern guard were true batponies, then the details of my explanation are no longer valid. They don't need to be individually rebuked.

As for the decay on Lionheart... it could be a variance in the spell due to the ghoulification process; we saw in Steelhooves, Twilight's mother, and Puppysmiles that Canterlot ghouls tend to fuse with their equipment on more than just a physcial level. Or it could be part of the uniform itself; if the cover didn't allow damage to show through that would sabotage any attempts and medical assistance to injured Guards, so it makes sense for the spell to allow injuries (and thus decay) to show through.

Kinda hope that Blackjack tries to eat Steel Rain's suit.

So. Much. Yes.

I should clarify that I am not actually talking about hoofball.

You have the best explanations.

I do believe that we've figured out one of the mysteries of the Hoof in the process of all of this though: Glory would never really have been up for the foursome with Littlepip and Homage.
Alas.

I swear, I leave you guys to your own devices for a few months and looks what happens. You fill up two more threads ON ANOTHER WEBSITE. Madness I say! Madness!

Quotidian is back!
Is there anypony else we're missing? Or is the gang all here?



Unrelated note: I find it amusing how many people are talking about how Blackjack's upbringing is responsible for skewing her views on monogamy/polygamy and love/sex, while being completely secure in the teachings of their own upbringing on the subject.

[Guest]

Quotidian is back!
Is there anypony else we're missing? Or is the gang all here?

I think we're still missing Admiral.

[Sindri]

I think we're still missing Admiral.

...damnit. How did I miss that? Where is he? He was with us when we left the old comments, wasn't he?

[Ametros]

I think we're still missing Admiral.

...damnit. How did I miss that? Where is he? He was with us when we left the old comments, wasn't he?

I believe Admiral posted on the old comments just a day or so ago - along with all the other lost lambs who apparently can't read comments stating we moved.

[Guest]

...damnit. How did I miss that? Where is he? He was with us when we left the old comments, wasn't he?

I just checked the old comments, looks like he never made the move.

[O. Hinds]

And yes, if you assume that the modern guard were true batponies, then the details of my explanation are no longer valid. They don't need to be individually rebuked.

Sorry Sindri, but canon's against you here.

Luna came back from the moon so we sent our strongest to be her guard, but keep families hidden away.

[Sindri]

Sorry Sindri, but canon's against you here.

Derp.

[OneMoreDaySK]

mfw everyone loves Stygius

Kinda hope that Blackjack tries to eat Steel Rain's suit.

This would be the best. possible. thing.

Great. Now I'm as crazy as the rest of y'all. Soon as I get my laptop back from repairs I'll try to join the madness regularly.

[CamoBadger]

Great. Now I'm as crazy as the rest of y'all. Soon as I get my laptop back from repairs I'll try to join the madness regularly.

It's not so bad to be crazy EMBRACE IT

[Quotidian]

It's not so bad to be crazy EMBRACE IT

Wait, Nightmare Moon is crazy? Sounds like we've got an outbreak of...

/glasses

...Lunacy.

[CamoBadger]

It's not so bad to be crazy EMBRACE IT

Wait, Nightmare Moon is crazy? Sounds like we've got an outbreak of...

/glasses

...Lunacy.

I like this Brony, he understands

[Aonee]

Great. Now I'm as crazy as the rest of y'all. Soon as I get my laptop back from repairs I'll try to join the madness regularly.

It's not so bad to be crazy EMBRACE IT

Wait... I just realized: You stopped your pony post script.

[CamoBadger]

Great. Now I'm as crazy as the rest of y'all. Soon as I get my laptop back from repairs I'll try to join the madness regularly.

It's not so bad to be crazy EMBRACE IT

Wait... I just realized: You stopped your pony post script.

Yeah, some people didn't enjoy it as much as others, and being a mod technically I should set a good example for others

[OneMoreDaySK]

Also, favorite character so far is Dealer. Strange that no one really mentions him when discussing characters they like/dislike.

[CamoBadger]

Also, favorite character so far is Dealer. Strange that no one really mentions him when discussing characters they like/dislike.

I don't really like him, because he's the one that makes BJ start regretting killing bad ponies...

[NoodleNugget]

Wasn't Stygius' cutie mark a shield? I think it was mentioned to be that but I'm not sure.
my little drawings may be pathetic, but I can at least try to be accurate with my favorite character.

[O. Hinds]

Wasn't Stygius' cutie mark a shield? I think it was mentioned to be that but I'm not sure.
my little drawings may be pathetic, but I can at least try to be accurate with my favorite character.

"a strange heart-shaped gothic shield"
There you go.

[NoodleNugget]

Wasn't Stygius' cutie mark a shield? I think it was mentioned to be that but I'm not sure.
my little drawings may be pathetic, but I can at least try to be accurate with my favorite character.

"a strange heart-shaped gothic shield"
There you go.

Thank you!

Yay , I can trust my brain, if only a little.

[jacky2734]

Has anybody else checked out "FOE: Anywhere but Here"? It looks to be starting out really well. Even though it did have a rather descriptive sex scene during the first chapter, it looks to be quite humorous and entertaining.

[Moodyman90]

Has anybody else checked out "FOE: Anywhere but Here"? It looks to be starting out really well. Even though it did have a rather descriptive sex scene during the first chapter, it looks to be quite humorous and entertaining.

First I've heard of that one.

Currently other then PH I've only been following Heroes and Murky Number Seven. Kinda of a nice birthday surprise when I saw MNS had been updated today.

[NoodleNugget]

Has anybody else checked out "FOE: Anywhere but Here"? It looks to be starting out really well. Even though it did have a rather descriptive sex scene during the first chapter, it looks to be quite humorous and entertaining.

Was debating whether or not to give it a shot.

[CamoBadger]

Has anybody else checked out "FOE: Anywhere but Here"? It looks to be starting out really well. Even though it did have a rather descriptive sex scene during the first chapter, it looks to be quite humorous and entertaining.

First I've heard of that one.

Currently other then PH I've only been following Heroes and Murky Number Seven. Kinda of a nice birthday surprise when I saw MNS had been updated today.

IT WAS!!!???!!!

HUZZAH! wait...that means I have another thing to read on my list...CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Oh, and Happy Birthday!

[NoodleNugget]

Has anybody else checked out "FOE: Anywhere but Here"? It looks to be starting out really well. Even though it did have a rather descriptive sex scene during the first chapter, it looks to be quite humorous and entertaining.

First I've heard of that one.

Currently other then PH I've only been following Heroes and Murky Number Seven. Kinda of a nice birthday surprise when I saw MNS had been updated today.

it's your birthday? happy birthday!

[Orm]

Also, favorite character so far is Dealer. Strange that no one really mentions him when discussing characters they like/dislike.

He's definitely one of my favourite characters in PH.

Also, favorite character so far is Dealer. Strange that no one really mentions him when discussing characters they like/dislike.

I don't really like him, because he's the one that makes BJ start regretting killing bad ponies...

That's one of the reason I like him.
For some reason I like the mysterious characters that keep telling you in the back of your head how you fucked up.

[Guest]

Has anybody else checked out "FOE: Anywhere but Here"? It looks to be starting out really well. Even though it did have a rather descriptive sex scene during the first chapter, it looks to be quite humorous and entertaining.

First I've heard of that one.

Currently other then PH I've only been following Heroes and Murky Number Seven. Kinda of a nice birthday surprise when I saw MNS had been updated today.

It's your birthday? Well happy birthday Moody.

Regarding FOE:Anywhere but Here I'll have to give that one a shot.

[Moodyman90]

Eeyups, and it'll still be my birthday for 7 more minutes for me cause that's when it becomes midnight.

And thank you! Kinda which Heroes updated today as well but I guess if I followed more stories I could have had more "birthday chapters" haha.

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