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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
I've forgotten what chapter it was in, but it was during the part of the story when Blackjack & Co. visited Thunderhead, when the idea was introduced that pegasi were watching exaggerated, serialized versions of the adventures happening in the wasteland. I've searched and searched for anyone who's taken that idea and written a story about it, because I think it'd hilarious to see a collection of heroes from mismatched stories (including at least one Dashite who is portrayed as literally the devil incarnate) fighting over-the-top monsters while lamenting about how much nicer it'd be if they were in the Enclave. Sadly, however, it seems no one has done so and my brief attempt at it was unsuccessful.
Someone please make that happen! ...Although, I believe at that point, it would be a fanfic of a collection of fanfics of a fanfic. I'm not sure how much deeper we can go before something breaks.
Someone please make that happen! ...Although, I believe at that point, it would be a fanfic of a collection of fanfics of a fanfic. I'm not sure how much deeper we can go before something breaks.
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SilentCarto wrote:
I suppose Lacunae is the weird alien counselor.
Lacunae is Seven of Nine, duh!
As for captain... Well, I believe that Blackjack could be promoted to that position. And Rampage can now be assigned to empty position of a Security Chief. She'll be like Worf: "Captain, can we shoot them? Captain! Let's shoot them! Captain! Captain!"
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Shouldn't Rampage be the red shirt? Getting killed over and over?
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decumos wrote:As for captain... Well, I believe that Blackjack could be promoted to that position. And Rampage can now be assigned to empty position of a Security Chief. She'll be like Worf: "Captain, can we shoot them? Captain! Let's shoot them! Captain! Captain!"
I approve of both these ideas.Borsuq wrote:Shouldn't Rampage be the red shirt? Getting killed over and over?
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I thought that people might like to know that the first draft of the final chapter is complete. I've read it. It's good. :)
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No, it's not. it's fail... so much pure fail...
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O. Hinds wrote:I thought that people might like to know that the first draft of the final chapter is complete. I've read it. It's good. :)
Somber wrote:No, it's not. it's fail... so much pure fail...
- Magic 8-ball, bearing in mind his prediction track record, is Somber right this time?:
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Oh wow! An edit on the Index Page caused the page to become busy
- The 11 word edit that stopped part of a fandom :P:
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It's really happening, isn't it?ILM126 wrote:Oh wow! An edit on the Index Page caused the page to become busy
- The 11 word edit that stopped part of a fandom :
It's really one of the only ones I can think of that's been continuously regularly updated, even if the publishing rate dropped to a lower plateau a couple times, that felt like it would just keep on going forever. What else is there that's been going since before season two, is ongoing, and didn't have giant breaks? It'll be strange for it to be over, as I'd been following it and/or FoE for pretty much as long as I've been in the fandom, with catching up on FoE (probably into the mid-20s, early 30s at the time) being almost the first thing I did after watching Season 1 and wanting more.
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It looks like we won't be finishing this weekend, though; sorry. Still, we made some quite good progress; the final chapter is ready for release, and we're probably about halfway or so through the epilogue.
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Oh well. I'm gonna bright side this. I'll probably get to read it fresher than I am now, or with more flexibility for staying up for it, when it is released.
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I had kind of tempered my hopes, but it's good to hear the last chapter was done so quickly. I'm sure that second half of the epilogue will go quickly.O. Hinds wrote:It looks like we won't be finishing this weekend, though; sorry. Still, we made some quite good progress; the final chapter is ready for release, and we're probably about halfway or so through the epilogue.
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Yup. We have about 6 more pages to go and then done. We'd have been done if I had gotten off my ass and wrote but, sigh, ce la vie.
Also, one of my editors proposed something to me that, at first glance, I rejected and now I have to give it serious consideration. Grrrr... I need a focus group.
Also, one of my editors proposed something to me that, at first glance, I rejected and now I have to give it serious consideration. Grrrr... I need a focus group.
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Doesn't that roughly exist, under the name of "The Editing Team"?Somber wrote:Yup. We have about 6 more pages to go and then done. We'd have been done if I had gotten off my ass and wrote but, sigh, ce la vie.
Also, one of my editors proposed something to me that, at first glance, I rejected and now I have to give it serious consideration. Grrrr... I need a focus group.
This is known.swicked wrote:I am a very evil person.
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trufaxswicked wrote:I am a very evil person.
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Might as well get this out now, I guess.
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There were only rocks. ”
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When Gorgon came into view I gave a S.A.T.S. guided set
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“Ante up…,” says the dealer.
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She gave one last sob, choking in the back of her throat. “Help me… ”
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“”W... what? No, I’d never. You’re.
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stuff, but... I’m sorry Blackjack.
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“"I-- I don't have time for that!"
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"Not now, but later...
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sociable..., but I would dearly like it if somepony
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I fired four S.A.T.S. guided rounds at point blank range..
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“Please please don’t let this be a set up…”
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towards the flaking word “Mercy” on the asphalt.
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“You keep calling me Rampage…” she said softly as I gasped and choked, “That’s not my name.”
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“It’s my fault Thorn is dead. Mine.” Be mad at me, P-21. Not Glory, not Rampage.”
one of the closing quotation marks should be deleted. the last two sentences work as either dialog or narration, but on balance given the next paragraph, I'd say better as narration
She nodded. “Yes. All things have spirits. What you call a soul. It is the truest reflection of one’s self.” Funny... I recalled a particularly boring lecture about cutie marks. “Why would that make him… well…invincible?”
there should be a paragraph break either before or after the sentence "Funny . . . cutie marks." Also, space needed after ellipsis before "invincible"
“It’s mine now!” Medley declared, only to have Allegro
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He gave me with a look I was all too familiar with. “You are,
"He gave me a look" or "He [regarded or stared at or something] me with a look", only one space after period
Nopony was interested in peace any more
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“I know you don’t believe it,” I said with a smile, “But most of Stable
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Lacunae smiled sadly, “The catch is that
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“But perhaps you possess a means to obtain it from the O.I.A. Hub, yes?”
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with a little smirk. “Goddess
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Lacunae okay. Goddess, not okay.
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I carefully moved to the back, careful to avoid looking at the clouds above and the ground way way below.
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“So unless that monster has cracked open a copy of Scientific Equestria or a Big Book of Arcane Science – ACK!” I swept him up in my hooves and gave him a hug. “Leggo!
shouldn't have space before dash. Maybe move "ACK" to after the break? If not, should probably either have second space after dash, or none
River offers better fruit. Get
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“I don’t know, but he wants me to go there. A trap. A set up? Something.”
"setup" in this context
‘Twist’
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The most successful ferry is the Seahorse, which is still operating even
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With his scruffy black beard, anchor cutie mark and scarred hide, I guessed he was the captain.
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if you’re a limerick..,” I coughed
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I got us a deal with Captain Tarboots here and–“
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The Turquoise mare blinked at him, and he coughed.
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And I'd have somepony to
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Of course, we'd need spark… magic-y…
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”Ain’t nearly as efficient.”
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Once, we were stuck on a beach off Manezibar with this tainted sea serpent watching us past the reef.
"Zanzebra" shows up a few times. Should this be that?
“Going downstream, you’ve got the water pushing you into rocks, beams, snags and worse.
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“Sure. Dad asking me to shoot him,” she replied in a soft, casual voice that made me shiver, “Looking
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I rushed to the front of the boat and ran into Seabiscuit trying to go the opposite direction. The sea green mare balked and backed to the bow of the boat as the deck heaved.
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The Captain just stared grimly ahead.
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Just one… please, let me save just one
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Thorn. Roses. Tumbleweed. Scoodle. Eleven zebra. Forty foals.
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Nothing, you gray pussy!” Daisy shrieked she kicked the other filly over and over again
"shrieked as she kicked" or "shrieked, kicking"
”You just woke up from passing out after
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”Go down to the Riverside station of
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“Blackjack, are you sure about this?” P-21 asked as we
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I floated it out, popped the top, pocketed the cap and took a drink,
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“You…” Rampage said firmly as she stepped in my path, “Need to disarm those mines while
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and even some diamonds. One corner had a bed and filthy
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Diamond dogs to be moved to appointed land outside Appleloosa.’
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The green eyes were quite sharp, though, as they glared at me like a balefire blast.
He just looked at me with a scowl, his green eyes hard and suspicious
later on, he has one real eye and one cyber-eye. I could only find one reference to the normal eye being a different color, though (a couple of "filmy," but that could probably apply to green eyes), so it might be easier to keep the green and change the later gray, especially with the simile in the first case
(34: “Pony is so dramatic,” Rover snorted, rolling his gray eye before returned to the sheet-covered mare. (also, "returned" should be "returning")
I saw one Sand Dog take the ruby flakes from the table a
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At the bottom, written in small letters: ‘Office of Interministry Affairs, Riverside Branch.’
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A few apathetic posters hung on the wall. ‘O.I.A.: we bridge the gaps,’ and ‘How can we help today?’
should first "we" be capitalized (not on general basis of following a colon, but as part of poster)? Is comma right choice for end of first caption, over period or nothing?
but I could barely make out the rest of the sentence. ‘…what your buckfriend
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But before you had a wedding you had to receive a proposal--”
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only the barest hint of that wet rattle. When the light faded
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She levitated an egg timer, cranked it for two hours and settled back against the frame
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I am not okay with this... I thought back at her,
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lay in heaps outside the... No. Not raiders.
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happening everywhere, Miss…,” an old unicorn mare said as she
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“”Pirates?” I glanced at her hat with
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and they came after us. Dad got injured and told me
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They rolled in front of me in a wave, their own S.A.T.S. guided shots
"S.A.T.S.-guided"
“So what does it convert it into?” I asked as I leaned in towards the sickly green gemstone.
“Chlorine,” she said simply, and I heard Glory gasp. I looked at it more closely.
“Chlorine, huh? And what’s that do?” I asked as I reached out to tap the glyph with my hoof.
suggest changing the structure of one of these two. Maybe drop the "I asked as I [verb]ed" or replace with "I asked, [verb]ing"
“Unfortunately,” she said with a sigh, “Chlorine is a
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she giggled… “Got anything to eat?”
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“Nooooo…” the yellow mare giggled, “They’re finally pissing
"They're" shouldn't be capitalized, or the comma after "giggled" should be a period and have a second space after it
“Good…” she stammered, “Good… good…”
second "Good" shouldn't be capitalized, or the comma after "stammered" should be a period and have a second space after it
But we would help him bear it,” she said softly in my mind, “As we help bear mine.”
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I rocked forward on to my hooves as
"onto"
“I wanted to save you!” I countered, raising the gun but
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There was a familiar eep, and I glanced back
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Stables 1 through 7, 9, 14 and 15, 18, 24, 29, 45, 60, 73, 78,
weird case, but should that be "One", "Seven", "Nine", "Fourteen", "Fifteen", and "Eighteen"?
Every Overmare since then has been sure that tomorrow we’d all die,” she said, her eyes narrowing and her teeth grinding, “But I know what this
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“What can I do to help?” I asked as I looked a
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“Rivets, I’ve seen the raiders outside... you need...” what?
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the Element of Generosity,” I said to myself as I
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A few of the glowing variety received S.A.T.S. guided magic rounds into their noggins.
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to walk our hooves to the nub,” Rampage said
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Just… hang on,” I said with a sniff…
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“Don’t...,” I said in a voice so strained it
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Stable 1? Where was that?
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the details at your hub after the meeting with Rarity. Gotta fly. ”
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spoken in the Zebra Empire… and… um… ”
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Four point-blank blasts rammed into her and ripped her
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“”Yeah, yeah. Just a second.
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“Over fifty thousand caps of C-4, though... ”
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Moldy Goldy. Twilight… Twilight... ”
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But… I... ”
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Pythia said with a grin. “No pony can defeat
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Velvet hissed, sweeping the sword. “You just
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I laughed, despite my tears. “Maybe you’re right,
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@Icy Shake:
Ah, thank you very much as always.
Ah, thank you very much as always.
I'm going to leave it as it is.Icy Shake wrote:"Zanzebra" shows up a few times. Should this be that?
Hm... No, yeah, I'm leaning towards this being a special case.Icy Shake wrote:weird case, but should that be "One", "Seven", "Nine", "Fourteen", "Fifteen", and "Eighteen"?
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Bother. Equestria did have oxygen talismans. In my defense, they were only mentioned only three times in PH and not at all in the original, but still, I ought to have remembered to check even if I didn't remember the fact. I am very greatly sorry for this error I have made. Okay, the rockets are still salvageable, though. Oxygen talismans take power. Furthermore oxygen atoms are heavier, which may mean that each oxygen atom takes more power to produce than each hydrogen atom. A reactor small and light enough to fit in a rocket can only provide so much power. If the reactor cannot fuel enough biprop production to accelerate the rocket at more than 1g, the ship still can't SSTO or definitely safely make a powered descent. A LOX tank is less versatile, but this was to be a temporary design before moving on to better rockets; it was also intended, I assume, to only make planned trips to Equus orbit and the moon. A cooling talisman for the LOX tank is presumably much cheaper in terms of energy. And might lead to the overall system being cheaper in cost (during wartime) than building ships with powerful enough reactors using the technology of the day, if that was possible at all. That's a... somewhat iffy support, but I think/hope that it's good enough.
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*cough* other way around *cough*O. Hinds wrote:Furthermore, for full combustion, two atoms of oxygen would have to be produced for every atom of hydrogen
Oh, excuse me.
Your logic is sound, though. Each oxygen atom would cost approximately 8 times the energy of the hydrogen needed to burn it, and let's be honest, combustion is a crappy way to accelerate propellant. There's a concept being worked on right now for a SSTO that would carry a hydrogen supply, superheated by ground-based microwave transmission to achieve greater efficiency than any combustion-based rocket. If we assume that the reactor is running at maximum power just to generate hydrogen for launch, you'd need eight of the same reactor to produce enough oxygen... to launch the first reactor. So lifting the oxygen generators would take more hydrogen and more oxygen, and while you'd eventually get ahead of the game, now you're talking about a truly humongous rocket that introduces the engineering challenges of larger-scale construction, concerns about what happens if you have a failure, and so on. A smaller, simpler rocket, though more limited in capability, is entirely reasonable as a first step.
So yeah, it totally makes sense for the first generation of rockets to carry expendable LOX tanks instead, and the later generation to do away with combustion altogether. You're really just looking for hot gas shooting out the back of the rocket, so there's no reason not to skip the middleman if you can.
Plus, cooling talismans for the LOX (and the oxygen generation talismans themselves) can run on external power anyway since they're not really needed once you light it up.
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swicked wrote:...and now Somber has written "The End". I have seen it.O. Hinds wrote:I thought that people might like to know that the first draft of the final chapter is complete. I've read it. It's good. :)
I've not finished my readthrough of the epilogue but this is a thing that is happening.
"The End"? As in literally the words "The End"?
Epilogue - Tomorrow wrote:The End.
Like that?
*Actually cries, like, three or four freaking tears*
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Beyond that, there may be two different types of gas talisman, one of which has inputs and one which makes it from nothing. Stable 99 had talismans that converted "carbon dioxide and impurities" into oxygen, then into chlorine. Then there's the other type, which would be useful for rocketry, which would actually create oxygen from nothing. Since at least the outputs are tweakable, why not the inputs? Maybe the one used for setting off the explosion in the screaming room didn't create oxygen, but converted nitrogen to oxygen.
But if it's a creation issue, then what about the water talisman for the Seahorse, which seems to actually create water for its propulsion (or possibly other cases, including in FoE)?
But if it's a creation issue, then what about the water talisman for the Seahorse, which seems to actually create water for its propulsion (or possibly other cases, including in FoE)?
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I don't understand your question. You're right that some talismans create while others convert, but what of it?Icy Shake wrote:Beyond that, there may be two different types of gas talisman, one of which has inputs and one which makes it from nothing. Stable 99 had talismans that converted "carbon dioxide and impurities" into oxygen, then into chlorine. Then there's the other type, which would be useful for rocketry, which would actually create oxygen from nothing. Since at least the outputs are tweakable, why not the inputs? Maybe the one used for setting off the explosion in the screaming room didn't create oxygen, but converted nitrogen to oxygen.
But if it's a creation issue, then what about the water talisman for the Seahorse, which seems to actually create water for its propulsion (or possibly other cases, including in FoE)?
Actually, now that I look, the original FoE seems to depict only creation talismans. I mean, it's not totally clear that the various water and hydrogen talismans didn't purify or create it out of other atoms, but the Pink Cloud talisman explicitly pressurized Canterlot under the shield.
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...Argh. I know I was tired, but how did I miss that? ARGH! Right, off to make corrections...SilentCarto wrote:*cough* other way around *cough*
Oh, excuse me.
Also, I'm not officially here yet, hence my lack of replies to anything else right now.
Thank you for pointing out this new error, for which I also extend great apologies.
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Basically I originally thought it might raise an issue about timing if using the change/create distinction because a water talisman able to propel an 80' ship must have a massive throughput, making both oxygen and hydrogen, all for the magical output of a few spark batteries or a normal unicorn. So that might have supported the rockets. But because there were five years after the moon mission during which the talismans could have been improved before the megaspells happened. In retrospect because of the time difference the capabilities at the end of the war probably don't matter.SilentCarto wrote:I don't understand your question. You're right that some talismans create while others convert, but what of it?Icy Shake wrote:Beyond that, there may be two different types of gas talisman, one of which has inputs and one which makes it from nothing. Stable 99 had talismans that converted "carbon dioxide and impurities" into oxygen, then into chlorine. Then there's the other type, which would be useful for rocketry, which would actually create oxygen from nothing. Since at least the outputs are tweakable, why not the inputs? Maybe the one used for setting off the explosion in the screaming room didn't create oxygen, but converted nitrogen to oxygen.
But if it's a creation issue, then what about the water talisman for the Seahorse, which seems to actually create water for its propulsion (or possibly other cases, including in FoE)?
Actually, now that I look, the original FoE seems to depict only creation talismans. I mean, it's not totally clear that the various water and hydrogen talismans didn't purify or create it out of other atoms, but the Pink Cloud talisman explicitly pressurized Canterlot under the shield.
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Ah, thanks!SilentCarto wrote:Your logic is sound, though.
And thank you for your more detailed analysis.
Well, the internal LOX tank is actually used to land, remember. But that would apply to the launch boosters, yes.SilentCarto wrote:Plus, cooling talismans for the LOX (and the oxygen generation talismans themselves) can run on external power anyway since they're not really needed once you light it up.
Those words have been typed, yes. I've read and commented to the end of the epilogue.Derpmind wrote:The End"? As in literally the words "The End"?
Well, the format is slightly different, as I recall. :)Derpmind wrote:Like that?
Yeah, it's... a big thing.Derpmind wrote:*Actually cries, like, three or four freaking tears*
There's also one that shows up later supplying medical oxygen. But maybe, yes... Of course, that would lead to a confusing terminology issue.Icy Shake wrote:Maybe the one used for setting off the explosion in the screaming room didn't create oxygen, but converted nitrogen to oxygen.
That can have some interesting uses, yes. :)Icy Shake wrote:But if it's a creation issue, then what about the water talisman for the Seahorse, which seems to actually create water for its propulsion
Though I'm not sure quite what you're asking here, I'm afraid.
Aye.Icy Shake wrote:Actually, now that I look, the original FoE seems to depict only creation talismans. I mean, it's not totally clear that the various water and hydrogen talismans didn't purify or create it out of other atoms, but the Pink Cloud talisman explicitly pressurized Canterlot under the shield.
Ah, good. I was worried for a bit in that paragraph. :)Icy Shake wrote:In retrospect because of the time difference the capabilities at the end of the war probably don't matter.
And yeah, we do know that technology had by the end of the war advanced to the point that that ESS-A1, a much larger rocket propelled entirely by internally-generated hydrogen and capable of SSTO, was buildable. And for all we know, the Seahorse was the very latest design when the bombs fell.
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Oh, that's right. Thanks.O. Hinds wrote:Well, the internal LOX tank is actually used to land, remember. But that would apply to the launch boosters, yes.
Though given that the Seahorse is powered by spark batteries or direct casting rather than a reactor, it seems more likely that it's simply the magical version of a pumpjet. Was there any instance where it explicitly produced water without any potential intake?O. Hinds wrote:And yeah, we do know that technology had by the end of the war advanced to the point that that ESS-A1, a much larger rocket propelled entirely by internally-generated hydrogen and capable of SSTO, was buildable. And for all we know, the Seahorse was the very latest design when the bombs fell.
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Well, here's where the engine is introduced:SilentCarto wrote:Was there any instance where it explicitly produced water without any potential intake?
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- “Come on in,” Oilcan said cheerfully. “Plenty o’ room for all.”
Glory stared into the hole with an audible gulp. I just gave her a friendly nudge on her hip and a smile that would hopefully convince her not to worry about it. P-21 jumped down happily; stable ponies had no problem with nice, tight, cramped spaces.
The engine itself was a block of polished brass inset with rubies and emeralds. It was connected by wires to a sapphire water talisman, twice the size of what we saw in 99’s utility room, that was hooked up to several large pipes. “This here’s the engine. It converts the raw magical spark energy into power for the water talisman. That makes the water that jets out the back to move the boat.”
“Is there supposed to be this much water in here?” P-21 asked, looking down at the inch or so of scummy water that was sloshing about our hooves. My PipBuck clicked slowly; there wasn’t nearly enough radiation to worry me unless I had an engine bilge water slurpee.
The motherly mare grinned at him. “Well if you’d like ta grab a bucket and do something about it, I know we’d be much obliged.” She reached into my box and pulled out a spark battery, flipping the heavy square container in her hooves. Inside the crystal hovered a red ball of magical energy that shed little waving lines of light. She opened a panel with her mouth and pulled out an empty container, then slid the fresh one into the receptacle. There was a sudden hum as the gems lit up. “Of course, for when we don’t got spark batteries, we’ve got a flux converter.” She gestured at a circle strung with a spider web of glistening crystal strands. ”Ain’t nearly as efficient.”
“And if that doesn’t work?” I asked.
“Well, then ya can get out and push. We’ve had to do that a few times.”
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I guess this is the part where I say, "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit."O. Hinds wrote:I suppose that there could be an intake, but Oilcan said that there wasn't.
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