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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:48 pm
You also seem to be using the metric system whenever you can, so... By American standards, maybe? 
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Icy Shake Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:57 am
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I don't use metric too much myself, since that's just not how things are denominated here (though I'd like to put a word in for decimalized Imperial, as with surveying in the US—true, it's not as good as metric since metric both makes sense and is the system ~95.5% of the world uses, but at least it's a far sight better than having inches involved), but I've been on 24-hour time for my personal things whenever possible for around the last decade, and I wish we'd just go to GMT (and, of course, drop the ludicrous and wasteful Daylight Savings Time).
I don't have much to say re: Deus, but on Enervation resistance, I always liked the idea that while Harmony could drive out Enervation over time, as was implied with Chapel and the Arena, its effects became less harmful as someone became more similar to the EOS, specifically by "singing" less using all other notes. This was why I tended to think that things affecting the soul might lead to a degree of immunity, along with the fact that it seemed to show most starting after Blackjack's first death, which of course also brought the cyberization (which was shown not to be too effective, due to Silver Stripe's experience) and the blessing of the stars. Now, one thing I'm now less sure of than I was is an impression I picked up during Hightower, which I now suspect may have been mistaken, or indeed outright imagined: that feral ghouls were abnormally resistant to Enervation.
Anyway, for all that Goldenblood ended up serving the agenda of the EoS, even having its scream resonate in him more strongly than the soul-song, he apparently, at least at first, hated the Enervation scream (as did Trottenheimer), though it seemed that Horse likely minded less, given how much and how enthusiastically he worked with it. (Extended quotation on the front end because of relevance to the units talk.)
So, read chapter 9 on Thursday, but didn't get around to posting until today because Civilization eats lives.
I don't have much to say re: Deus, but on Enervation resistance, I always liked the idea that while Harmony could drive out Enervation over time, as was implied with Chapel and the Arena, its effects became less harmful as someone became more similar to the EOS, specifically by "singing" less using all other notes. This was why I tended to think that things affecting the soul might lead to a degree of immunity, along with the fact that it seemed to show most starting after Blackjack's first death, which of course also brought the cyberization (which was shown not to be too effective, due to Silver Stripe's experience) and the blessing of the stars. Now, one thing I'm now less sure of than I was is an impression I picked up during Hightower, which I now suspect may have been mistaken, or indeed outright imagined: that feral ghouls were abnormally resistant to Enervation.
Anyway, for all that Goldenblood ended up serving the agenda of the EoS, even having its scream resonate in him more strongly than the soul-song, he apparently, at least at first, hated the Enervation scream (as did Trottenheimer), though it seemed that Horse likely minded less, given how much and how enthusiastically he worked with it. (Extended quotation on the front end because of relevance to the units talk.)
“That is a force talisman used by my horned assistants. It can apply up to ten kilomacs of force in an area ranging from a decimeter in diameter down to one millimeter.”
“Why do you insist on using Fancee units?” he groaned. “What’s wrong with the Equestrian Standard?”
“You tell me why we have twelve inches in a foot instead of thirteen and why there are sixteen ounces in a pound instead of fifteen and I’ll get back to you on that,” Horse replied. Goldenblood set the talisman down in the row. “You can see the pattern?” Horse asked as he gestured at the tools.
“Yes. Each one is more efficient than the last. More power, greater ease, less mass…” Goldenblood replied.
“Bingo. I love working with smart ponies,” he laughed, then grinned as he tapped the empty table next to the talisman. “So, Goldenblood. What do you imagine belongs here?”
Goldenblood stared at the empty table, then looked at the grinning buck. “Whatever you’re about to show me.”
“Goldie, you know me too well,” Horse chuckled as he reached under the table and lifted a tiny silver cube in his mouth. He set it on the table at the place where he’d gestured. “Ta-da.”
“That’s a hammer?”
“Indeedily it is,” he said as he took out a spark battery and a weird device with light bulb thingies attached. “You know how this starmetal stuff only reacts to one specific frequency? Well, watch what it does when we apply just a little bit of magic power at that frequency, but modify the amplitude…” He turned a few knobs.
Goldenblood winced. “I hate that noise.” Funny, I wasn’t hearing anything at all.
So, read chapter 9 on Thursday, but didn't get around to posting until today because Civilization eats lives.
- Chapter nine running thoughts:
- Hmm. Tense is throwing me for a bit of a loop at the start.
“Miss Marigold, this is the third infraction for fraternizing with male students you’ve made within two hundred and -bzzzt- years. I’m afraid I have no choice but to contact your parents and have you all report for lunch detention in the library for the duration of the lockdown.”
“Yes, Dean Hardy,” I said as adolescently as possible. “Can we at least go to our rooms and get our homework?”
Ah, inflexible programming. Where would we be without you? But at least it seems better than the Crusader Maneframe stable.
Had something just moved? One of the Crusaders playing a trick on me? My mind finally cracking? Slowly, I rose to my hooves and checked my E.F.S. Nothing. My eyes scanned the room slowly, mane itching like crazy. “Huh…” I muttered. Nothing at all.
Bullshit. In the Wasteland it’s never nothing.
Learning, I see. Remember, if you don't look and sound like a paranoid lunatic, something in Hoofington's going to get you.
Medley huffed, “I told you but no one listens to me. Slavers gots ta have a license outta Paradise to be slavers. Otherwise they’d just make slaves of each other. The licenses are, like, super expensive.”
You and Glory might get along nicely; you seem very taken with the formal distinction compared to the broader meaning of "someone who engages in slaving."
To my amazement, I saw several zebras among the slaves! I supposed slavers couldn’t be choosers.
Huh? Why not?
The sun was just starting to set when the train returned.
Well, I guess you can realize it's sunset by the way the clouds get darker.
What about the slaves that had nowhere to go? Sending them to Stockyard was hardly a sure bet, and sending them anywhere else would be making them bait for raiders or more slavers.
And the ponies of Stockyard say "Thank you for not volunteering us." When Blackjack tells the story to Littlepip, Littlepip responds with incredulity "So, you're trying to tell me you think other people have a choice in whether to help out?"
Then there was a blue flash and a shimmering gray cloak appeared draped around a lithe equine. A lithe… striped… equine. He reached up with a hoof and brushed the hood of his cloak back to look down at me with deep azure eyes.
Some of the word choices here might be a little suggestive of an attraction, but one which won't, if it exists here, be much developed until the Society. Either that or I have a bad case of permanent shipping goggles.
“Okay, Lancer. Like I said. I don’t think you want to kill me. I’d rather not kill you.”
“Liar,” he said quietly. “All ponies do. It is what you live for.”
Ah, projection. It's such an amusing trait.
“I would not be opposed to seeing my people returned to freedom,” he finally answered.
Those are some slippery words, right there. Why not go for an out-and-out lie?
“Awww. I shouldn’t have bet on the scorp.” There was laughter, and then the voice warned, “Get back to your hole, Pecos.” A bullet smacked into the dirt at our hooves.
Sometime's it's hard to tell if an organization doesn't care about the morale of its workers. This isn't one of those times.
It wouldn’t do for me to seem too ready to play. But once I settled in I felt more relaxed than I had in days.
Wow, it's really been that long since Megamart, hasn't it?
“Something like that. Got picked up by a Society pony. They like to call their slaves ‘servants’ or ‘serfs’, but you’re somepony else’s property all the same. Mostly was used for sex and housekeeping for an old mare in the Applette family. Coulda been a lot worse.” . . . “When she died, her granddaughter didn’t really know what to do with me. Didn’t want me for sex. Didn’t need me for cleaning. So she just let me go. Sweet girl. ‘Course, unarmed and broke, I wasn’t in a real good position to survive long. Got into debt to one of Usury’s little pet ponies. Joined with the Pecos to pay it off.”
Probably a deliberate contrast to P-21.
Harbinger claimed she had been an acolyte for the Steel Rangers, but that a Reaper attack gutted their bunker.
There aren't many cases of names being repeated, so this caught me by surprise.
“So why’d you join the Pecos?” Dusty asked me.
Technically I hadn’t. “I dunno really,” I said, thinking. If I had to join the Pecos, why would I? Then I looked at the bottle of whiskey, the cards, and the ponies around me. “Guess so that I wouldn’t be lonely any more. Have a life like I did in 99.”
Well, it's worth noting that even with the lie detection spell, they're probably already more open and unguarded with Blackjack than the ponies of 99.
“There’s nothing I can do about it.”
“What if you could?” I asked, my voice barely above a whisper.
She stared at me, now looking scared. “Who the fuck are you really?” I just looked at her, pulling off the glasses to look straight into her eyes. She shook her head slowly. “No… fuck… no… no you’re not… no fucking way…”
Blackjack sure can turn on the cool when she needs to.
If I were a slave owner, I’d keep the guns as far from my own guards as from my slaves.
Maybe, but that seems like it might be too clever by half. I guess it would depend on the situation.
Just inside the door was a meeting room with two bored guards; Lancer’s rifle made soft little ‘pffts, pffts’ and they turned into two dead guards.
I'm actually a little surprised Blackjack was okay with that. But then, she does seem to think of things very differently if she does them rather than someone else, and they are in a delicate operation, and there's her pronounced passion on the subject of slavery.
“What is it?” I asked, looking closely with a small frown.
“A bomb,” she replied. Instantly I wasn’t looking nearly so closely.
“A bomb?” I stared at the black collar and then hissed at the fat buck, “Why the fuck would you put a bomb on someone you screw?!”
I love that last line. For some reason I just find it hilarious.
Somehow I found the prospect of fighting something that had the slavers scared witless a little concerning.
Maybe it was the pain of having at least two limbs broken, but you just made the overseer piss himself. You might just qualify yourself. Granted, the track record indicates that generally one should be concerned about having to fight Security.
“So. Strong. Bulletproof. Turns ponies into stone. Anything else?”
IS HE CELESTIA (or Luna)? She's definitely strong and her shields are bulletproof, and as Discord was so pleased to point out, the Princesses did turn people into stone.
I tossed it to her as well, and she gave a little squee as she immediately swapped out one beam pistol for the new weapon.
"Squee" was popular that year, wasn't it?
“It’s a disintegration pistol! It magically breaks down the bonds…” she faltered at my ‘I am not a smart pony’ look. “Well, they do much more damage than energy beams. There’s a chance it can start a chain reaction that… well… disintegrates things.”
Hmm. Didn't she disintegrate at least a raider or something with a beam pistol? Maybe I'm misremembering.
“Shoot him in the eye?” I asked Lancer. He looked thoughtful and then nodded stiffly, seeming quite put out by taking a suggestion from me.
In retrospect, looking down a scope into the eye of someone who can turn you to stone with eye contact might be a bad idea.
“Cheer up. We’re facing a monster. No moral angsting here!”
He gave me a little smirk. “Oh yeah? What if it turns out he was tragically transformed into a monster and wants only to be normal and loved?”
“Oh. I hadn’t thought of that.” And suddenly the niggling thoughts began to rise up in the back of my mind. “Maybe we should talk first and…”
Again, so funny. Also, it's like P-21 knew exactly what they would discover much later. Because that's spot-on.
P-21 searched through the remains as I stared at the red button on the wall, chewing my hoof. What did it do?
“Stop staring at the button, Blackjack,” P-21 said without looking up.
“What? I wasn’t…” I huffed and made a big show of checking my shotgun. When we were ready to move on I glanced at the button again. Someday… Alarm? Self destruct device? Buzzer? Decoration? Arrrrgh!
Blackjack: like Dee Dee, only more deadly and depressed, and less annoying. Also, I guess, she can be stopped from pressing the button.
He launched himself into the air as we separated, landing with a thunderous crash where we’d stood moments before. I didn’t target him. I simply fired wherever I thought he was and prayed to Celestia I didn’t hit somepony else.
This close to literal spray and pray, but she's probably using a shotgun with slugs. Against a bulletproof opponent.
Glory clipped the tip of a spur of bone, jerking in midair. Gorgon caught her in his hooves as they landed on the far side of the pit. His glowing eyes stared into hers, and I watched as I saw her writhe. I’d never imagined turning to stone would be... slow. Her equipment and violet mane turned white first. Then her limbs froze in their twisted state, and finally her head finished in still alabaster.
Ooh, that's creepy. But remember—the show's for kids!
He charged: a reckless, full frontal assault that only an impregnable abomination would undertake. I didn’t swing the baton, I threw it right at his head. Whether through reflex or annoyance, he closed his eyes before he rammed into me.
Is that a reference to George Reeves Superman and ducking away from the thrown guns? If so, bravo.
His scream was muted by the roar beneath us as his long snake-like tail was caught in the grinding teeth of the rock crusher.
Ooorr it wasn't much of an audible scream because he didn't have vocal cords. Sneaky, sneaky.
Then one of them caught in the pumping jaws. There was a resounding pop.
I heard that scream.
Or maybe not.
Indeed, many of the petrified ponies were once more free to move around.
Broken stone ponies, though, remained broken stone.
Mercifully.
- Chapter nine overall thoughts:
- The chapter starts out with potentially a little bit more introspection than normal, which stood out in particular because it was going over the conversations that had happened at the very end of the last chapter. The unusual preponderance of present tense narration probably made me notice it more, as well.
But after that, we're into the academy scene, which combines some comedic elements with character building and the introduction of Brimstone's Fall Mine and the Proditors. There's some exposition about the Pecos, but the next big thing is Lancer showing up all invisible and menacing. He comes across as very earnest, very intense. It's odd that he thinks that Blackjack might serve the stars, but it seems like a standard question for all that probably next to nopony does. Blackjack, of course, isn't happy about the idea that she might die over a year that ended centuries ago. Also, P-21 and maybe also Blackjack seem like they may be attracted to him, with P-21 in particular having a look in his eyes he hadn't had since Splendid, even as he's clearly distrustful of the Remnant sniper.
Interestingly, this chapter has another undercover operation, which goes off incredibly smoothly considering it's a Blackjack plan. She's entirely bought as a Pecos, even beating a lie detection spell. Dusty Trails is introduced, and seems to have a history that's fairly close to P-21's, and that likely contributed to her decision to support Blackjack, taking the Pecos off on a wild goose chase while Blackjack and company raid the mine.
We have our first bomb collar, and it's met with shock on Blackjack's part, because “Why the fuck would you put a bomb on someone you screw?!” Freeing the slave this was referring to, Blackjack gets the information on Gorgon: strong, bulletproof, flies, can turn you to stone with a look. She's not happy about that, and neither is anyone else, with the last even shocking Lancer. But at least he's a monster, and there need not be any moral angsting over killing him, right? P-21 jokes about how maybe Gorgon "was tragically transformed into a monster, and wants only to be normal and loved" because he knows how this shit works. The mere suggestion gets Blackjack thinking about talking first, until he shows her the broken bodies of petrified slaves all along the halls.
The high points of the Gorgon fight, to me, started with Blackjack beginning to be turned to stone and telling Gorgon how Sanguine wants her PipBuck, and how its contents might be damaged if it's turned to stone, too. Good thinking, and nice how it was making connections and using his motivations and bonds against him. Next was, unsurprisingly, the rock crusher. One good piece of atmosphere, over the whole fight, was the terror the slaves and guards felt regarding Gorgon, so intensely that they would rather work themselves to death than try to go against him, or even slack off.
The chapter ends, of course, with the slaves' takeover of the mine with the help of the calvalry's arrival in the form of the Pecos. But just as that ends, Lancer's sudden betrayal comes as he shoots Blackjack and all of the zebra slaves at the mine, saying that they are traitors to the fallen Caesar, and that the war is never over.
Oh, and that big red button Blackjack was so keen on never did get pressed. But there'll be time for that later.
- Chapter nine editing:
- I really hoped the material came from something other than a Brahmin, or worse.
"Brahmin" shouldn't be capitalized
medical technician of the Enclave. She was younger
only one space after the period
Doesn’t she realize I’m not a good pony? I’m not a hero. I’m just trying to do better because everywhere I look I see things getting worse and worse and the only thing that makes any sense is trying to make it better. Old Hoss said Big Macintosh was a hero because he would have given his life for anypony. I sometimes wondered if I could turn in the bounty on myself and split the proceeds among the Crusaders, P-21, and Glory.
The past tense of the last sentence doesn't match the present of the beginning of the paragraph, though both seem to be about ongoing things.
southwest, towards Fillydelphia. On the surface were a
Only one space after the period.
Maybe we could find-
Second hyphen for dash.
“Hey, P-21. Think you can sneak down
I don’t think you want to kill me. I’d rather not kill
bolt and ejected the round in the chamber. Then I caught the shell with
I’d like you on the roof of that building at the end. If I have to bolt,
Only one space after the period.
over my PipBuck; fortunately Glory had some duct tape that closed it up.
comma after "fortunately"
Here! Come here
Should have second space after exclamation point
The other, a unicorn with the lever action, wasted no time picking her shots.
I think the "a" should be "the," matching the "the" for the lever action rifle (since there was only one)
at one of us and pinched at the other. Finally, my luck worked out
“Awww. I shouldn’t have bet
only one space after period
One large shop bore flickering red neon letters: ‘Pecos Bill’s Western Wear.’
Period to outside of quotation marks?
In the middle was a liquor store looted long ago, a gun store, and a barbershop.
"was" to "were"
“Yeah. Probably just the poison
only one space after period
Poleaxe had been a bandit, a slaver, and had even ran with a Reaper gang,
"had even run"
“Stable ponies are always asking questions. So what’s your story?”
only one space after period
I needed a little bit of air, so I stepped outside...and into the faint drizzle
should have space after ellipsis
How- how the fuck can you do this?”
second hyphen for dash?
and they turned into two dead guards. I resolved to never
barding and his hoof reached for the band. S.A.T.S. popped
fetlocks and was rewarded with crunches of splintering bone. He cried out,
I don’t know. He’s strong and
she said. I nodded as I
only one space after period
That just bumped him above Deus on the ‘what the fuckometer.’
period to outside of quotation marks
“Fuck me,” Glory muttered softly, then blinked and went bright red as she looked at her hooves. “Sorry!”
only one space after period
“That’s my line,” I grinned at her.
Either needs a "said" verb, or the quotation should end with a period.
round hole at its apex. On the ground,
only one space after period
A squad of guards bored down into the blocks using some kind of drill, set some explosive, and blasted them chunk by chunk into smaller pieces.
Should that be "explosives"?
Armor Piercing rounds? My curiosity was piqued
"Piercing" should not be capitalized
dynamite up his scaly ass! Where was-
second hyphen for dash
I threw it right at his head. Whether through reflex or annoyance,
hooves battered at my barding. Some mechanism within
rested guards that remained. They would be right,
only one space after period
- Other chapter editing:
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Then up came Stockyard, the Brahmin eating their meals unmolested by the mutated dragonlings.
"Brahmin" shouldn't be capitalized
25:
All of them flew flags with strange markings: crossed guns, an axe in a Brahmin skull, some kind of paw print.
30:
“One Kilomac… two kilomacs… three… huh… four?” The needle was now in a yellow bar and steadily climbing. “Five Kilomacs!” Horse exclaimed.
"Kilomac[s]" shouldn't be capitalized.
40:
In the corner was a primitive Protectapony with a placard reading ‘Model #0.’
Period to outside of quotation marks?
“Eater of Souls,” Goldenblood corrected. “And yes, I have. As the myth goes-”
second hyphen for dash
“Yeah, yeah... Big nasty creatures from the stars
should have second space after ellipsis or not capitalize "Big."
“Thanks? Goldie goldie goldie... Thanks is nice… really.
All three "Goldie"s should be capitalized, and since this seems more condescending than rushed or breathless, there should probably be commas between them.
49:
He waved over one of his Brahmin and dug around in one of its packs, taking out another battered, less fancy-looking heavy revolver.
51:
“Who’s-” I started to say, when I heard a deep humming noise approaching.
Second hyphen for dash.
54:
ignoring the hissing hellhound energy weapons as she sent armor-piercing steel through their skulls like a smiting Goddess
No hyphen for "armor-piercing," probably
I called out as I loaded a fresh magazine filled with armor-piercing rounds.
No hyphen for "armor-piercing" (you leave out the hyphen more than four times as often as you use it)
A three-round armor-piercing burst? Maybe.
No hyphen for "armor-piercing," probably
59:
You make armor-piercing bullets. We made megaspells.
No hyphen for "armor-piercing"
The only ones I could see were the Brahmin, approaching the Fleur with dull curiosity.
"Brahmin" shouldn't be capitalized
63:
So I focused on armor-piercing weaponry.
No hyphen for "armor-piercing"
The tan stallion then grinned at Glass.
Horse is yellow, not tan; he's either "pale gold" as in his first appearance in chapter 17 or "mustard-yellow" as in chapter 55 (I think those were the only two times he's been given a coat color more specific than "yellow").
*17: “Fillies and gentlecolts, thank you for coming,” a pale gold earth pony buck said as he trotted up to the table with a cloth-covered round drum on his back.
*55: Then the mustard-yellow Horse trotted out in front
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by O. Hinds Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:22 am
@Icy Shake:
Ah, thank you very much as always.
Your color correction in 63 is not actually in 63, though; it's in 64.
(Yes, it's probably still terribly cracky, but it's fun!)
Ah, thank you very much as always.
Your color correction in 63 is not actually in 63, though; it's in 64.
It's a wonderful story of the triumph of profit motive over speciesism! Except not.Icy Shake wrote:Huh? Why not?
:DIcy Shake wrote:And the ponies of Stockyard say "Thank you for not volunteering us." When Blackjack tells the story to Littlepip, Littlepip responds with incredulity "So, you're trying to tell me you think other people have a choice in whether to help out?"
Well, you're in good company. This bit is, IIRC, where I started shipping Lancer-21. :)Icy Shake wrote:Some of the word choices here might be a little suggestive of an attraction, but one which won't, if it exists here, be much developed until the Society. Either that or I have a bad case of permanent shipping goggles.
You don't say?Icy Shake wrote:Sometime's it's hard to tell if an organization doesn't care about the morale of its workers. This isn't one of those times.
See? And, yeah, then Lancer reveals his true colors… but he reforms later! And since, despite P-21's protestations, Blackjack shows that P-21 can accept reformation… :DIcy Shake wrote:with P-21 in particular having a look in his eyes he hadn't had since Splendid, even as he's clearly distrustful of the Remnant sniper.
(Yes, it's probably still terribly cracky, but it's fun!)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Scienza Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:39 pm
This is slightly unrelated to Project Horizons, but it seemed to fit this thread better than the Setting Discussion: Was Steelhooves an operative for the Ministry of Awesome? I was rereading PH again and thought about the whole “___hooves” thing that both Lighthooves and Steelhooves had going and I thought about how weird it is that an enlisted grunt, even one dating a Ministry Mare, had a cryptonym. Normal name and rank should be appropriate, so why would he be assigned the code name? He also managed to kill Zecora, who, while not a fighter, did have MoA combat and infiltration training. More importantly, he repeatedly ranted about MoA black ops work which literally nopony else in Equestria knows about. Neither Luna or even the other Ministry Mares knew what Awesome was doing, so how did a non-commissioned officer stationed on guard duty far from the front lines learn about MoA's clandestine wetwork?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by SilentCarto Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:16 pm
You make good points, but let's flip that backwards: If Steelhooves had been a MoA operative, shouldn't he have known not to hurt Zecora? Granted, they wouldn't necessarily tell every operative about every other operation, but it wouldn't make much sense not to let AJ's operative boyfriend in on the operation. And even if not, Zecora should have then been able to provide some kind of MoA passcode or something.Scienza wrote:This is slightly unrelated to Project Horizons, but it seemed to fit this thread better than the Setting Discussion: Was Steelhooves an operative for the Ministry of Awesome? I was rereading PH again and thought about the whole “___hooves” thing that both Lighthooves and Steelhooves had going and I thought about how weird it is that an enlisted grunt, even one dating a Ministry Mare, had a cryptonym. Normal name and rank should be appropriate, so why would he be assigned the code name? He also managed to kill Zecora, who, while not a fighter, did have MoA combat and infiltration training. More importantly, he repeatedly ranted about MoA black ops work which literally nopony else in Equestria knows about. Neither Luna or even the other Ministry Mares knew what Awesome was doing, so how did a non-commissioned officer stationed on guard duty far from the front lines learn about MoA's clandestine wetwork?
I got the impression that Steelhooves was a nickname or callsign, which he might have preferred to his somewhat embarrassing real name, and which he took on as his sole identity after his "death" in Zebratown. His knowledge of MoA operations may have simply been due to his Steel Ranger access after the Last Day, his ability to survive in Canterlot with 200 years of spare time on his hooves, and his insider knowledge via Applejack that Rainbow Dash wasn't as idle as she appeared.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Harmony Ltd. Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:25 pm
Well, the Macintosh Marauders weren't exactly your run-of-the-mill unit, and it's possible they had to work with the MoA at some point during the course of the war.
And, even if it's not from the original FoE, Psalm was very close to Goldenblood, also known as "King Secrets". So maybe some intels got passed.
Though the simplest explanation might be that as a war hero, he got to make a number of contacts in the right circles, and he liked to get the clearer picture possible of the situation.
Add to that the "secret lover of a ministry mare" factor, and I could see him having access to a number of intel sources.
And, even if it's not from the original FoE, Psalm was very close to Goldenblood, also known as "King Secrets". So maybe some intels got passed.
Though the simplest explanation might be that as a war hero, he got to make a number of contacts in the right circles, and he liked to get the clearer picture possible of the situation.
Add to that the "secret lover of a ministry mare" factor, and I could see him having access to a number of intel sources.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Somber Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:03 am
Been a bit of a mess recently... surprise surprise. Going to try and get 65 out. It's going to be a massive, ugly, chapter... and apparently has some utterly shitty ideas that I've been planning for 2 years.
Also, yes, Civ V eats lives... but it is sooo much fun for Gandi to stomp Ghengis Khan.
Also, yes, Civ V eats lives... but it is sooo much fun for Gandi to stomp Ghengis Khan.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Moodyman90 Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:56 am
Probably something he brought up a long time ago somewhere that wasn't here and at least one person said it was a bad idea. I'm looking forward to the next chapter in any case and let my opinion, which will be reluctant criticism to neutrality at worse, be know afterwards.
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by O. Hinds Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:58 pm
We'll get 65 out; we just don't know when.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Evilgidgit Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:06 pm
Regardless when it is released, we all though that is will be GLORIOUS!O. Hinds wrote:We'll get 65 out; we just don't know when.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Silver136 Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:36 pm
If you've been planning it for 2 years how can it be that bad? You've had more then enough time to think it over and modify it, I'm sure it'll be great!Somber wrote:Been a bit of a mess recently... surprise surprise. Going to try and get 65 out. It's going to be a massive, ugly, chapter... and apparently has some utterly shitty ideas that I've been planning for 2 years.
Also, yes, Civ V eats lives... but it is sooo much fun for Gandi to stomp Ghengis Khan.
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by Vergil Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:58 pm
As always, rock on.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Derpmind Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:27 pm
Somber wrote:It's going to be a massive, ugly, chapter... and apparently has some utterly shitty ideas that I've been planning for 2 years..
If you google "define context" you get this definition: "The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed." I'm sure you've told some people you ideas for the ending, but until you've written the chapter all those ideas and plans and dreams only come together in your head. You know how sometimes when a new movie or videogame or whatever is being made, you hear people talk about how they're being made and why X, Y and Z means it's going to be good or bad? Those are predictions, not reviews. You can't know how something is going to turn out until it's actually done. I don't know what's 'wrong' with your ideas, but I've got to disagree on principle.
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by SilentCarto Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:22 pm
Yeah, that's why I don't play 4X games anymore... I'm bad enough with just KerbalSomber wrote:Also, yes, Civ V eats lives... but it is sooo much fun for Gandi to stomp Ghengis Khan.
I can't +1 more than once. THIS MUST BE RECTIFIED.Derpmind wrote:If you google "define context" you get this definition: "The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed." I'm sure you've told some people you ideas for the ending, but until you've written the chapter all those ideas and plans and dreams only come together in your head. You know how sometimes when a new movie or videogame or whatever is being made, you hear people talk about how they're being made and why X, Y and Z means it's going to be good or bad? Those are predictions, not reviews. You can't know how something is going to turn out until it's actually done. I don't know what's 'wrong' with your ideas, but I've got to disagree on principle.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Scienza Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:59 pm
Somber wrote:Been a bit of a mess recently... surprise surprise. Going to try and get 65 out. It's going to be a massive, ugly, chapter... and apparently has some utterly shitty ideas that I've been planning for 2 years.
I'd like to see you try and make a shitty chapter. We'd probably end up with another Lucidity and I'd be doomed to reread said chapter forever.
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by WavemasterRyx Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:49 am
*hugs very gently* I'm sorry things have been so bad for you, sir. Please just try and take care of yourself, and do enjoy Civ V for a little bit, because you could certainly use the break. I have every confidence that it'll be a good chapter, no matter how long it needs to be, or how long it takes.Somber wrote:Been a bit of a mess recently... surprise surprise. Going to try and get 65 out. It's going to be a massive, ugly, chapter... and apparently has some utterly shitty ideas that I've been planning for 2 years.
Also, yes, Civ V eats lives... but it is sooo much fun for Gandi to stomp Ghengis Khan.
Very wonderfully said, Derpmind. It's entirely true too.Derpmind wrote:If you google "define context" you get this definition: "The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed." I'm sure you've told some people you ideas for the ending, but until you've written the chapter all those ideas and plans and dreams only come together in your head. You know how sometimes when a new movie or videogame or whatever is being made, you hear people talk about how they're being made and why X, Y and Z means it's going to be good or bad? Those are predictions, not reviews. You can't know how something is going to turn out until it's actually done. I don't know what's 'wrong' with your ideas, but I've got to disagree on principle.
Also, happy (late) birthday to Boo!
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by O. Hinds Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:26 am
Happy birthday to Boo!
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by The Tainted One Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:46 pm
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but civilization is misspelled on the Google Docs hub page.
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by O. Hinds Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:18 pm
Ah, thank you. I think that what happened there is that the spelling you spotted is the correct Commonwealth spelling, and Snipehamster, who wrote that passage, is a native speaker of Commonwealth rather than American English; as PH uses American English as its standard, however, you were write to point out the error.The Tainted One wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned, but civilization is misspelled on the Google Docs hub page.
Also, welcome to the forum!
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by SilentCarto Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:45 am
Civilization?The Tainted One wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned, but civilization is misspelled on the Google Docs hub page.
I'll stay right here.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Somber Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:16 am
Great... now that song is playing in my head... sigh...
Writing is hard. This chapter has a lot of reveals and info and it's difficult to try and get them just right.
Writing is hard. This chapter has a lot of reveals and info and it's difficult to try and get them just right.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Silver136 Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:25 am
I have all the old Fallout 3 and New Vegas music, and now I really have the urge to play that song...too bad I'm already listening to other stuff as I read these!SilentCarto wrote:Civilization?The Tainted One wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned, but civilization is misspelled on the Google Docs hub page.
I'll stay right here.
And good luck to you Somber! I'm sure the chapter will be great!
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by SilentCarto Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:40 pm
At least it wasn't Butcher Pete.Somber wrote:Great... now that song is playing in my head... sigh...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by Exodus Hero Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:12 am
Well, nothing worth doing is easy. Good luck, have fun.Somber wrote:Great... now that song is playing in my head... sigh...
Writing is hard. This chapter has a lot of reveals and info and it's difficult to try and get them just right.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion
by neoaustin Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:46 am
Random Question time? Which astrological sign do you think Blackjack, P-21, Morning Glory, and Rampage would each fit into? (yes i did just order them based on when they appeared in the story. answer the question.)
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by Guest Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:50 am
Well, I'd guess Blackjack's a Pisces, because, y'know, I'm shameless and Go Fish. :P
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by neoaustin Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:05 am
...*facehoof*Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:Well, I'd guess Blackjack's a Pisces, because, y'know, I'm shameless and Go Fish. :P
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by Guest Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:15 am
My puns will go on! *pennywhistle solo*
Welcome to the forums, btw!
Welcome to the forums, btw!
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by neoaustin Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:21 am
thanks. shame there isn't more people on right now.
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by neoaustin Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:35 am
Thats kinda why im asking. i don't know the signs and thought to get help from people i know have read PH. get their opinions and go from their
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