Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[O. Hinds]

...I don't think that I have headcanon about the show, actually. The show just supplies material for headcanons about individual fan things.

[Evilgidgit]

Speaking of canon, or at least Fallout Equestria canon, perhaps you kind bronies could help clear this up for me - is the Battle for Shattered Hoof Ridge where Big Macintosh died, or were those events separate? The Fallout Equestria Wiki says they're different, but I'm not so sure.

[Icy Shake]

There's the Battle of Shattered Hoof Ridge, which took place where you think it does (Shattered Hoof Ridge), and there's Shattered Hoof, the rock-breaking penitentiary named for the battle. This last is where Diamond Tiara died and was part of the domain of Mr. Topaz.

[Caoimhe]

Here's that audio drama I mentioned. It's COOL:

[Evilgidgit]

I listened to that yesterday. Absolutely fantastic.

Somber is a genius and so is Pinkie! I'm re-reading the memory orb flashback between Pinkie and Rainbow - she asked an old groundskeeper to meet an astropony and her kid! Hoss, Marigold and Tarot! Fanastic!

But why would Pinkie send bobby pins to Braeburn? A future gift for Littlepip?

[Scienza]

Here's that audio drama I mentioned. It's COOL:

The main thing that I can't get over is just how fantastic the music is. That Hay Ms. Derpy cover has been on a loop for the last two days, and the Eileen Monty song is fantastic.

Also, Scorch has the voice of a sexylicious angel.

[Adalbertus]

Ok, so I finally finished reading PH and I'm up to date, so I'm no longer afraid of spoilers.
But this thread is so long I'm not going to read it grom the start.
So sorry if this ad been asked, but...

Then she blinked.  “Oh.  I guess I just did.”  She rubbed her eyes and looked away.  “Dawn wasn’t lying, but just because somepony does something bad doesn’t mean they’ve stopped being your friend.  And sometimes, if two babies are determined to fight, sometimes you have to take away what they’re fighting over.  Oh.  And congratulations,” she said, then shook her head.

Hardware malfunction during sexy times with P-21 and Glory?
Again, sorry if you already discussed that, I looked for it briefly and didn't find it.

[Stringtheory]

Ok, so I finally finished reading PH and I'm up to date, so I'm no longer afraid of spoilers.
But this thread is so long I'm not going to read it grom the start.
So sorry if this ad been asked, but...

Then she blinked.  “Oh.  I guess I just did.”  She rubbed her eyes and looked away.  “Dawn wasn’t lying, but just because somepony does something bad doesn’t mean they’ve stopped being your friend.  And sometimes, if two babies are determined to fight, sometimes you have to take away what they’re fighting over.  Oh.  And congratulations,” she said, then shook her head.

Hardware malfunction during sexy times with P-21 and Glory?
Again, sorry if you already discussed that, I looked for it briefly and didn't find it.

Short answer is we don't know what she's talking about, though pregnancy is heavily implied. One would guess its Glory and P-21's the father (or it could be Prince Splendid), but who knows. Anyway another can of worms will be opened for Blackjack very soon.

[Adalbertus]

Well, the story is approaching it's finale phase. At this point it's about a week before the battle at SPP hub, so whatever is going to happen, it's going to happen soon. Because I am assuming that the conclusion of PH will be more or less correlated with the conclusion of FoE... and knowing Blackjack it will be blowing up everything :P
Or... since I already found quite few similarities between this story and Mass Effect, Blackjack will take over the Core :D
As for pregnancy theory, I guess it could be Glory... in which case, will it be a mix of P-12 and original Glory, or RD? :P

[Stringtheory]

As for pregnancy theory, I guess it could be Glory... in which case, will it be a mix of P-12 and original Glory, or RD? :P

Short answer: we don't know.
Long answer go check out the rather humorous discussion on that topic back on page 9.

[Adalbertus]

I hate reading through discussion forum posts. I get  lost there.
Ok, so the right answer is, we don't know. I'll stick with that.
And in that case I'll wait for the next chapter to join in on the discussion :P When will that be? <_<

[Stringtheory]

And in that case I'll wait for the next chapter to join in on the discussion :P When will that be? <_<

Hopefully sooner rather than later, considering Somber said she had 20 pages written on Wednesday and was hoping to have enough to brush this weekend, but since we haven't heard anything...
Also, the human whose mind Somber rides around in is unemployed so that probably given him/her plenty of time to write, but it does mean that he's sort of low on money, so despite what he says about not wanting to live off of charity, feel free to throw some money at him.

[Adalbertus]

I wish I could help, but I don't have too much money to spare... and by that I mean, I probably earn less than whatever the lowest income in USA is <_<

[Stringtheory]

I wish I could help, but I don't have too much money to spare... and by that I mean, I probably earn less than whatever the lowest income in USA is <_<

Full time minimum wage earnings per year in the USA is about $15.000, so google's converter says that's about €11.100, so you tell me.

[Adalbertus]

~10.700 euro (before the taxes) so it's actually pretty close, I'm actually a little bit surprised. <_<

[Icy Shake]

On the Superman thing, I'll be brief and say it depends on the writer and the story. I can't see the Superman of Superman for All Seasons or All-Star Superman going that direction, and even the one of Kingdom Come went tyrannical not because of the loss of an individual, but because of the breakdown of the entire super hero system.

Anyway, I read through chapter twenty nine today, and for the first time I read as the Goddesses intended: with plenty of Wild Turkey at my side.

Chapter Twenty Nine Running Thoughts:

Chapter Twenty Nine Overall:

Chapter Twenty Nine (Mostly) Editing Matters:

On an unrelated note, part of the chapter got me thinking about griffins. Is there a word, either in general or merely among the brony fandom, for a group of griffins? A quick search hasn't found a general answer, apart from suggestions of "pride" or "flock" (though it turns out a flock of eagles is a "convocation"). If there isn't one already, should one of those be used, or what do you think a good melding of the two would be? So far, the best I've come up with is "coronation of griffins," as a proud gathering [one replete with pomp and circumstance] that also incorporates their being a combination of the classical king of the beasts and king of the birds.

[O. Hinds]

On the Superman thing, I'll be brief and say it depends on the writer and the story. I can't see the Superman of Superman for All Seasons or All-Star Superman going that direction, and even the one of Kingdom Come went tyrannical not because of the loss of an individual, but because of the breakdown of the entire super hero system.

Anyway, I read through chapter twenty nine today, and for the first time I read as the Goddesses intended: with plenty of Wild Turkey at my side.

Chapter Twenty Nine Running Thoughts:

Chapter Twenty Nine Overall:

Chapter Twenty Nine (Mostly) Editing Matters:

On an unrelated note, part of the chapter got me thinking about griffins. Is there a word, either in general or merely among the brony fandom, for a group of griffins? A quick search hasn't found a general answer, apart from suggestions of "pride" or "flock" (though it turns out a flock of eagles is a "convocation"). If there isn't one already, should one of those be used, or what do you think a good melding of the two would be? So far, the best I've come up with is "coronation of griffins," as a proud gathering [one replete with pomp and circumstance] that also incorporates their being a combination of the classical king of the beasts and king of the birds.

Ah, thank you very much as always.

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

so, snipehamster left the editing team

"Snipehamster -- 11/3/13 -- Due to internal disagreements, I’ve resigned from the editing team. Ownership of this document has been passed to Somber."

[Caoimhe]

Wasn't that a while ago?

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

considering this was marked for today i would guess there have been issues in the past that have led up to this point

[Caoimhe]

Euro dating method (DD/MM/YYYY), broseph. You just got real lucky seeing it today.

[RoboRed]

Euro dating method (DD/MM/YYYY), broseph. You just got real lucky seeing it today.

Yep.

Nope, it's just in British format.
11/3/13 is March 11th.

[FeatherDust]

But this thread is so long I'm not going to read it grom the start.

The reason this makes us laugh is you don't realize that Cloudsville splits threads when they exceed 34 pages, and this thread here is the tenth or twelfth split (conservatively) since we started posting here.

And we started posting here because we overflowed the maximum comment count on the Equestria Daily project horizons post and hard locked it. Twice.

Hardware malfunction during sexy times with P-21 and Glory?

Basically, it does seem like pregnancy is the explanation, but unclear as to who. It could be Blackjack, who trusts an implant that frankly might not work properly with all her cyborging, if it's even still inside her and not scooped out along with the parts they replaced. She might have toxin filters that assess the implant's anti pregnancy chems as hostile and filter them, or hormone control circuits that ignore or override the implant's effect.

I don't recall if Glory had an implant or not in the first place, since she always figured her gayness made that kind of unnecessary. If she did have one, the Dash body could have affected that, even if the killing joke didn't directly.

[Moodyman90]

These days that would end up on Maury, but it's really the same difference. Rampage would be in the audience just to stir up the drama more haha.

[Derpmind]

this thread here is the tenth or twelfth split (conservatively) since we started posting here.

This is the 23rd thread. Each thread has 991 posts, so in total there have been 22,173 posts in the [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion thread. Of course, many of those posts were completely off topic, which eventually prompted the creation of the [Officail!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread. thread. Coincidentally, the chat thread is on its 23rd iteration, and has at time of writing a total of 22,832 posts. And just for completeness's sake, before EqD accidentally shuffled the old Blogger comment system somewhere inaccessible on its servers, there were three comment archives completely filled to their capacity of 5,000 comments, for another total of 15,000 comments. And another 478 + 4 comments in the newer Intense Debate system.

Also, the crazy theorist wants to say that perhaps there is no pregnancy... yet!  

[SilentCarto]

Speaking of canon, or at least Fallout Equestria canon, perhaps you kind bronies could help clear this up for me - is the Battle for Shattered Hoof Ridge where Big Macintosh died, or were those events separate? The Fallout Equestria Wiki says they're different, but I'm not so sure.

Nope, they're the same.
“From the tales I have been told, peace was what was hoped, but there could only be peace if Nightmare Moon was removed. Unfortunately, the ponies sent the wrong Princess to Shattered Hoof Ridge.”

[Guest]

just trying to keep from being robbed, raped, or ripped in two.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Glory say something about a serf being raped in the society and how it occurred in the enclave too?

[SilentCarto]

just trying to keep from being robbed, raped, or ripped in two.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Glory say something about a serf being raped in the society and how it occurred in the enclave too?

Sort of.

“Consensual!  When you control every part of a pony’s life, where precisely does consent come into it?” he spat at her, making her back up as he trotted over to me.

So it wasn't as cut and dried as gun to her head, but rather a potential coercion by abuse of authority. I say "potential" because it's hard to judge that kind of case -- it's possible that she really had taken a shine to one of the overseers, or was deliberately trying to sleep her way to better living conditions. Or maybe it was exactly what P-21 thought. (This is why workplace romance is usually a really bad idea.)

The passage you're thinking of is:

“Oh yeah?  Do your supervisors force workers to fuck them?”  P-21 asked as he rounded on her.
“Some do, yes.  And when they’re caught, they’re punished,” Glory answered him plainly.

So obviously the Enclave at least has rules against that sort of thing. However....

Grace turned even redder before she looked me boldly in the eye.  “If that’s the case, he’ll be stripped of his authority."

So does the Society, it would seem.

While rape still exists in these situations, in the Society and Enclave, there's at least a base coat of civility and security involved, and the workers theoretically have some sort of recourse. That might be a slim comfort, but it's better than what raiders would do. Which, I admit, is a bit like saying it's better to get shot through the leg than the heart. It's still abominable, but the wasteland seems to excel in offering you the choice of which grade of 'horrible' to expose yourself to.

...anyway, the residents of Thunderhead aren't working at farming settlements.

[SilentCarto]

“Are you okay?” Eclipse asked as she knelt beside him. He glanced up in time to see the glittering mesh descend down and land firmly atop her inky head. Suddenly the machine let out a massive mechanical shriek, and the screens went wild.

A housing burst apart as the metallic guts spilled out, rearranging themselves and creeping towards us.  Green lightning flickered and danced along the writhing mechanical surfaces as they formed claws and tendrils.

“GIVE IT TO ME!” those thousand voices screamed at once.

That was a face… the machines were forming a massive pony face!  It was slowly pushing out of the machinery as if the gargantuan monster was being birthed from the equipment.  Green light blazed from its eyes as it opened its mouth and vomited dozens of electrical cables that crackled and snaked towards us.

Spell Matrix 7> Details: Come to Life Spell. ERROR. Data Corrupted.

Huh... I wonder...

P.S. In that first quote, there should be a comma after "suddenly".

[Somber]

At 26p.  It's a big horrible chapter.  I don't want to split it in two.  I want the Thunderhead arc over with and then into the Core and Finale....  uuugh...

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