Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[Ketchup]

Fear and pain are natural defences to assist us in making decisions to prevent mortal harm, as unpleasant as they are. Most animals have fear, and we should fear most of all because we can understand true dangers.

There's some dude preaching at my campus, now while I don't agree with what he's saying I don't think it's right  for the bunch of other students to be rude and heckle the guy. Why don't they just walk away if they don't agree?

And pass the occasion to feel superior to someone and act like a bully with the implicit moral support of your social circle and the people around you ? What kind of alien are you ?

The bloody pack mentality just makes everything worse in those situations. See it everyday, same people, same targets.

[cb5]

Fear and pain are natural defences to assist us in making decisions to prevent mortal harm, as unpleasant as they are. Most animals have fear, and we should fear most of all because we can understand true dangers.

I totally agree fear and pain are natural and help make use avoid decisions that would otherwise kill us. Like if someone is afraid of chainsaws that's totally reasonable, cause the danger it presents.

The sad thing is a lot of people try to drown out their fear and pain rather than deal with it. A personal example is my grandma. She never once in her life felt pain, was born with a silverspoon in her mouth, never saw anyone die ever and never once was given a reason to fear death then one day great-grandma died and she was presented with her own mortality and all the fear of dying most people learn to cope with during their life came crashing down on her all at once. Short version of what happened: She's in a mental hospital now.

[CamoBadger]

lol

Spoiler:

[Scyto Harmony]

The sad thing is a lot of people try to drown out their fear and pain rather than deal with it.  A personal example is my grandma.  She never once in her life felt pain, was born with a silverspoon in her mouth, never saw anyone die ever and never once was given a reason to fear death then one day great-grandma died and she was presented with her own mortality and all the fear of dying most people learn to cope with during their life came crashing down on her all at once.  Short version of what happened: She's in a mental hospital now.

I don't think her not dealing with mortality and her mental health are related.

[Harmony Ltd.]

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[Harmony Ltd.]

Linking thi.gs from tumblr when you're on a mobile is a pain in the ass.

[Harmony Ltd.]

The sad thing is a lot of people try to drown out their fear and pain rather than deal with it.  A personal example is my grandma.  She never once in her life felt pain, was born with a silverspoon in her mouth, never saw anyone die ever and never once was given a reason to fear death then one day great-grandma died and she was presented with her own mortality and all the fear of dying most people learn to cope with during their life came crashing down on her all at once.  Short version of what happened: She's in a mental hospital now.

I don't her not dealing with mortality and her mental health are related.

Look Scyto, people are entitled to do whatever shitty jokes they want without having to care about other people's feeling, even if it hurt them. This is America, god damn it !

What, are you one of those sick pinko liberals from the Politically Correct brigade or what ?

[cb5]

The sad thing is a lot of people try to drown out their fear and pain rather than deal with it.  A personal example is my grandma.  She never once in her life felt pain, was born with a silverspoon in her mouth, never saw anyone die ever and never once was given a reason to fear death then one day great-grandma died and she was presented with her own mortality and all the fear of dying most people learn to cope with during their life came crashing down on her all at once.  Short version of what happened: She's in a mental hospital now.

I don't her not dealing with mortality and her mental health are related.

She started popping pain pills and anti-depressants like louis popping pills in lfd2. The short version is the amount she was taking really screwed up her brain. We still don't know how she got a hold of prescription medication without a prescription for the pills.

[Harmony Ltd.]

I feel this could be a prompt for the writing thing :

http://infinitybiscuit.tumblr.com/image/63472517678

from :

http://www.walletshaker.com/projects/charleroi/

[Frost]

At least when I damage the emotional and mental health of those who love me, it's not just for shits and giggles

[Moodyman90]

*reads the past few pages*

Nothing new and out of the ordinary I see.

[Scienza]

Much better. Yeah, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is non-canon, but Fallout Tactics is simi-canon from what I hear. Events of the game happened, but only in the broadest of details.

At least that's what the Fallout TV Tropes said. Same goes for the canceled Van Buren. While a lot of the planned story bits was put into New Vegas, broad versions of what happened there did happened.

Isn't New Vegas pretty much Van Buren, canon-wise? I know that a lot of stuff got carried over (Caesar's Legion vs. NCR, Hoover Dam, etc.)

[Scyto Harmony]

The sad thing is a lot of people try to drown out their fear and pain rather than deal with it.  A personal example is my grandma.  She never once in her life felt pain, was born with a silverspoon in her mouth, never saw anyone die ever and never once was given a reason to fear death then one day great-grandma died and she was presented with her own mortality and all the fear of dying most people learn to cope with during their life came crashing down on her all at once.  Short version of what happened: She's in a mental hospital now.

I don't her not dealing with mortality and her mental health are related.

She started popping pain pills and anti-depressants like louis popping pills in lfd2.  The short version is the amount she was taking really screwed up her brain.  We still don't know how she got a hold of prescription medication without a prescription for the pills.

I'm not saying that's not the trigger, but people don't 'develop' most mental conditions. Especially not mental conditions like that. It was probably underlying and untriggered until then.

[Scienza]

The sad thing is a lot of people try to drown out their fear and pain rather than deal with it.  A personal example is my grandma.  She never once in her life felt pain, was born with a silverspoon in her mouth, never saw anyone die ever and never once was given a reason to fear death then one day great-grandma died and she was presented with her own mortality and all the fear of dying most people learn to cope with during their life came crashing down on her all at once.  Short version of what happened: She's in a mental hospital now.

I don't her not dealing with mortality and her mental health are related.

She started popping pain pills and anti-depressants like louis popping pills in lfd2.  The short version is the amount she was taking really screwed up her brain.  We still don't know how she got a hold of prescription medication without a prescription for the pills.

Ouch. My grandmother used to prescribe herself all kinds of crazy shit (she was a pharmacist), and we think that's what gave her cancer in the end.

[Harmony Ltd.]

@ Scienza : Lots of stuff got carried over, but no.

For starter, IIRC, the endgame of Van Buren involved the player character having a direct hand in provoking a new Holocaust - the VB developers were IIRC thinking that the setting, now starting to seriously rebuild, was moving too far away from the Post-Apocalyptic theme / aesthetic, and wanted to "reset" the counter for the next game.

IIRC, what would have happened was that the big bad would have used an orbital nuke launching facility for some reason, and after defeating said big bad (a rogue hyper-intelligent NCR officer), the only thing the player could do was change the targeting data of the missiles as they were about to launch.


Though the saving grace of Van Buren was that the aforementioned endgame would have taken place in a space station on orbit.

[Harmony Ltd.]

But now that I think about it, I just described the basic premise of what happen in Lonesome Road...

[Guest]

Well, gents, it's happened again - I'm on a weird sleep schedule. Waking up at like 7 AM, going to sleep at like 9 or 10 at night. :| Gross.

@Harmony
Sounds like Van Buren was a fan of getting Fallout back to the roots of navigating a hostile radioactive wasteland, which sounds like a fun time.

[cb5]

I'm not saying that's not the trigger, but people don't 'develop' most mental conditions. Especially not mental conditions like that. It was probably underlying and untriggered until then.

The pills she was taking damaged her neural pathways cause of the quantity she was taking and what sorts of pills she was taking and that a lot of them counteracted each other. She was taking stimulants while taking depressants at the same time and they were interacting with each other.

My grandma summarized in one image:

Spoiler:

[Moodyman90]

Much better. Yeah, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is non-canon, but Fallout Tactics is simi-canon from what I hear. Events of the game happened, but only in the broadest of details.

At least that's what the Fallout TV Tropes said. Same goes for the canceled Van Buren. While a lot of the planned story bits was put into New Vegas, broad versions of what happened there did happened.

Isn't New Vegas pretty much Van Buren, canon-wise? I know that a lot of stuff got carried over (Caesar's Legion vs. NCR, Hoover Dam, etc.)

Did some looking, I swear it's changed since last I looked but it looks like the events of Van Buren are mostly non-canon. A lot of elements from it was moved to 3 and New Vegas plus their DLC. Seems like the only thing that was slatted to be in Van Buren that didn't really get shown except the aftermath was the NCR- B.o.S. War.

That said, I got confused cause for whatever reason the Fallout Timeline has events from Van Buren in them. It's an interesting read. It seems that the playable portion of Van Buren happens five years before Fallout 3 begins, as in before the Player Character is born.

[brony all alone]

i recently learned of a fallout 3 reference in the elder scrolls 5 skyrim. so in fallout 3 an old lady gives you a sweetroll and some jerk kid(butch?) steals it from you, then in skyrim, some guards say "let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll. i dont know how much (if any) of an easter egg this is. but its the little things in life that count(this one doesnt matter but meh.). anybody else know any video game references in other video games?

[Harmony Ltd.]

It's also noted before a number of Van Buren elements on the timeline "not confirmed as canon"

[Moodyman90]

You're close, but not quite. Sweetrolls are a running gag in Bethesda games mainly that of the Elder Scrolls series, so when they got the rights to make Fallout 3 they put the sweetroll joke in there in reference to their other games.

@ Harmony. Like I said, that's why I got confused. Personally it doesn't make sense to me to include parts not considered as canon, but they did.

[Scienza]

i recently learned of a fallout 3 reference in the elder scrolls 5 skyrim. so in fallout 3 an old lady gives you a sweetroll and some jerk kid(butch?) steals it from you, then in skyrim, some guards say "let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll. i dont know how much (if any) of an easter egg this is. but its the little things in life that count(this one doesnt matter but meh.). anybody else know any video game references in other video games?

That's one of the more obvious ones, but Bethesda games are usually full of easter eggs and in-jokes. If you turn on Wild Wasteland, New Vegas is pretty much all pop-culture references.

While it's not a reference per se, I love the crap out of the Tupari vending machine in Mass Effect 2.

"Twelve trillion bottles of Tupari are sold in a day; where's yours? Oh that's right, it's inside me."

[Frost]

"Twelve trillion bottles of Tupari are sold in a day; where's yours? Oh that's right, it's inside me."

An odd quote. Most people are really uptight about having things inside them removed.

[Guest]

"Twelve trillion bottles of Tupari are sold in a day; where's yours? Oh that's right, it's inside me."

An odd quote. Most people are really uptight about having things inside them removed.

That's the beauty of vending machines. They're very willing to sell specific internal organs to you, at semireasonable prices. Just don't try to tip them over.

[brony all alone]

well theres the morrowind reference in the dragonborn DLC for skyrim. you can see a bosmer mage cast a weird spell, fly into the air, scream something, then fall to his death. when i saw that 30 minutes ago while playing skyrim. i lol`d. theres also the 300 reference. the pacman reference. and the star wars referenceS

[Frost]

ITT we learn CBf1ve has no empathy

...and isn't willing to fake it.

Or doesn't consider the consequences of not faking it. For instance, many folks are still willing to help me financially and physically even though they're not technically legally obligated to (having reached legal adulthood) precisely because they've only ever seen me being polite and respectful and have never seen me being...me, and I'm perfectly fine with that state of affairs.

unrelated:

[O. Hinds]

The Khans go all the way back to Fallout 1 and reappear as the New Khans in Fallout 2.

[RoboRed]

swickedbait:

[Scyto Harmony]

I'm not saying that's not the trigger, but people don't 'develop' most mental conditions. Especially not mental conditions like that. It was probably underlying and untriggered until then.

The pills she was taking damaged her neural pathways cause of the quantity she was taking and what sorts of pills she was taking and that a lot of them counteracted each other.  She was taking stimulants while taking depressants at the same time and they were interacting with each other.

My grandma summarized in one image:

Spoiler:

I have no more arguments to present.

I just had to say that to make it clear that I didn't surrender. I just ran out of ammo.

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