Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[brony all alone]

its been a while since my lords summoned me

[Frost]

Alright, as part of my efforts to branch out a little and hate the Japanese less, I'll take a look at some other anime/mangas that I've heard were pretty good. I'm already on Volume 9 of Berserk, and it's filling my holes when it comes to some good, old-fashioned giant-sword-swinging punch-a-demon-in-the-face violence and cosmic horror, but I'll give that a rest for the moment.

Anyone familiar with Black Butler? From what I've heard, it'll provide my recommended dose of labyrinthine scheming and homoeroticism

[brony all alone]

quick question. what is fallout? i know its a game but whats it about? who made it?

[Katarn]

Heresy!

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki

[brony all alone]

that doesnt tell me what the heck fallout is. who made it and what is it about?

[Stringtheory]

that doesnt tell me what the heck fallout is. who made it and what is it about?

you didn't follow the link to the wiki?...

[Scienza]

quick question. what is fallout? i know its a game but whats it about? who made it?

Fallout is a series of post-apocalyptic RPGs set in a quasi-dieselpunk alternate America. The series is renowned for its black humor which blends well with the overall depressing grimness of the setting. The game has been developed by Black Isle Studios (1 and 2), followed by Bethesda Softworks (3), and Obsidian Entertainment (New Vegas),

[Frost]

It's an RPG series (originally turn-based isometric, later first/third-person real-time) produced by several companies over its lifetime. It is, fittingly enough, a game about a post-apocalyptic world built from the science fiction of the 1950's. It's more well-developed than your typical post-apocalyptic-based fiction, featuring intricate stories of plots and conspiracies stretching back to before the Great War. There's a great deal of surrealism and magical realism involved, and the character customization, world-building, and extensive quests are very in depth in all games in the franchise.

[brony all alone]

all i heard was RPG, apocalyptic,aaaaaaand: BETHESDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that settles it im getting it. skyrim was boss. quick question: is it openworld? 1st or 3rd person?

[Scienza]

all i heard was RPG, apocalyptic,aaaaaaand: BETHESDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that settles it im getting it. skyrim was boss. quick question: is it openworld? 1st or 3rd person?

Think of it as Skyrim, but darker and with much smarter writing. And without that goddamn awful leveling system. 

The first ones were isometric, but 3 and New Vegas are first-person.

[Katarn]

Just play Fallout 2. FO 3 was kinda ...well..not bad..but not good (IMO), New Vegas is good, be seriously, play Fallout 2 first. Or if you really want get whole story - start with Fallout 1 :D

[Scienza]

Just play Fallout 2. FO 3 was kinda ...well..not bad..but not good (IMO), New Vegas is good, be seriously, play Fallout 2 first. Or if you really want get whole story - start with Fallout 1 :D

Aye. Fallout 3 was unsettling for me, since I grew up in DC, but it wasn't as good as New Vegas or the originals.

[brony all alone]

i for one enjoy the leveling systems. so the game aint too easy. oblivion was freakin HARD. skyrim, im on legendary difficulty and it still easy. what else can i do but game? im a vampire. not skyrim but real life. i gottta feed and keep low also

[Katarn]

These two sites will help you with games. (Fo3 and NV)
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/
http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/

[Scienza]

i for one enjoy the leveling systems. so the game aint too easy. oblivion was freakin HARD. skyrim, im on legendary difficulty and it still easy. what else can i do but game? im a vampire. not skyrim but real life. i gottta feed and keep low also

To keep my rant short, I despise the Skyrim leveling system. Literally the only way to level up is to grind or just pay someone to level you. That's not good game design, that's pointlessly padding gameplay time.

You want to see hard? Play through the Dead Money DLC for New Vegas on Hardcore Mode. You will cry.


Oh, and Fallout 3 is a bitch to get working on Windows 7.

[O. Hinds]

Fallout 1 and 2 are both available on Good Old Games. Actually, I think that they might even be on sale this weekend, so you've good timing!

[O. Hinds]

Ah, yes, they are!
4.99 USD each this weekend.

[cb5]

Just play Fallout 2. FO 3 was kinda ...well..not bad..but not good (IMO), New Vegas is good, be seriously, play Fallout 2 first. Or if you really want get whole story - start with Fallout 1 :D

Aye. Fallout 3 was unsettling for me, since I grew up in DC, but it wasn't as good as New Vegas or the originals.

Personally I like Fallout 3 more than new vegas mainly cause new vegas it was way to easy to fuck up the ending you were going for.  The story telling was definitely better in fallout 3. Fallout new vegas' gameplay was pretty good, just the story telling was the problem.

[O. Hinds]

Regarding the 3/NV debate: I've still not been able to get 3 running, but, while I'd still like to play it, New Vegas is, from what I've heard, better anyway. I'm not sure how well NV compares to 1 and 2, though; there are enough differences between them that a comparison becomes difficult.

[O. Hinds]

Just play Fallout 2. FO 3 was kinda ...well..not bad..but not good (IMO), New Vegas is good, be seriously, play Fallout 2 first. Or if you really want get whole story - start with Fallout 1 :D

Aye. Fallout 3 was unsettling for me, since I grew up in DC, but it wasn't as good as New Vegas or the originals.

Personally I like Fallout 3 more than new vegas mainly cause new vegas it was way to easy to fuck up the ending you were going for.  The story telling was definitely better in fallout 3.

I realized that the way I was about to reply to this could have lead to an argument.  I'll just say that I disagree and leave it at that.

edit: I meant disagreeing about the accuracy of your stated reasons; your opinion of the game is yours to have.

[O. Hinds]

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[cb5]

Regarding the 3/NV debate: I've still not been able to get 3 running, but, while I'd still like to play it, New Vegas is, from what I've heard, better anyway.  I'm not sure how well NV compares to 1 and 2, though; there are enough differences between them that a comparison becomes difficult.

Not really.  The long time fans and more hardcore fans of fallout didn't really like new vegas that much.  The problem people had with it and why it's not as popular is the same reason what I said, the story telling in new vegas isn't as good as fallout 3.  The combat and that is actually improved a bit, but for people that want to play for the story we were sorely disappointed in the direction they took.

Just play Fallout 2. FO 3 was kinda ...well..not bad..but not good (IMO), New Vegas is good, be seriously, play Fallout 2 first. Or if you really want get whole story - start with Fallout 1 :D

Aye. Fallout 3 was unsettling for me, since I grew up in DC, but it wasn't as good as New Vegas or the originals.

Personally I like Fallout 3 more than new vegas mainly cause new vegas it was way to easy to fuck up the ending you were going for. The story telling was definitely better in fallout 3.

I realized that the way I was about to reply to this could have lead to an argument. I'll just say that I disagree and leave it at that.

edit: I meant disagreeing about the accuracy of your stated reasons; your opinion of the game is yours to have.

I know it's a opinion, I was just saying that the story telling in new vegas was the definite drawback to the game though. You gotta agree with the dlc and the ability to nuke the entire ncr or such and how it doesn't effect the mojave is ridiculous.

[Katarn]

And what about speakers and red mist? You can't run them out..at some parts.

[Frost]

Is anyone else having trouble with Fallout 2? I got it for ten bucks on Steam a while back, but I've only ever gotten a few minutes on it since it's stuck in compatibility mode

[Scienza]

Just play Fallout 2. FO 3 was kinda ...well..not bad..but not good (IMO), New Vegas is good, be seriously, play Fallout 2 first. Or if you really want get whole story - start with Fallout 1 :D

Aye. Fallout 3 was unsettling for me, since I grew up in DC, but it wasn't as good as New Vegas or the originals.

Personally I like Fallout 3 more than new vegas mainly cause new vegas it was way to easy to fuck up the ending you were going for.  The story telling was definitely better in fallout 3.  Fallout new vegas' gameplay was pretty good, just the story telling was the problem.

I think we've talked about this before, but New Vegas has better writing and storytelling. It's factions are much more complex and nuanced than 3's, where there were only the Brotherhood of Steel (who save virgins and defend puppies) and the Enclave (who killed your dad and want to poison everything.) New Vegas had no definite "good guys" and "bad guys", it just had choices that fell on the sliding scale of idealism vs. cynicism. The idealists (NCR and Independent), are at best ineffective, and at worst, destructive, with the former hopelessly bloated and mired in bureaucracy and corruption, the latter a bloody free-for-all that undoes everything any other groups hope to accomplish. Alternately, the cynics (House and Legion) are monsters willing to do whatever it takes to seize power, and are at the same time some of the most likely to establish order in the region. The choice between these four factions, falling in different corners of the alignment chart yet none being ultimately preferable, is what makes New Vegas' main quest much more interesting.

Also, the karma system is ridiculously broken, and so I'm incredibly happy that they de-emphasized it in NV.

[StoneSlinger88]

Alright, as part of my efforts to branch out a little and hate the Japanese less, I'll take a look at some other anime/mangas that I've heard were pretty good. I'm already on Volume 9 of Berserk, and it's filling my holes when it comes to some good, old-fashioned giant-sword-swinging punch-a-demon-in-the-face violence and cosmic horror, but I'll give that a rest for the moment.

Anyone familiar with Black Butler? From what I've heard, it'll provide my recommended dose of labyrinthine scheming and homoeroticism

Have you tried Durarara? An Irish dullahan tracks her lost head to a major Japanese city, and rides around on a giant black motorcycle that casts shadows of a horse.

[Scienza]

Regarding the 3/NV debate: I've still not been able to get 3 running, but, while I'd still like to play it, New Vegas is, from what I've heard, better anyway.  I'm not sure how well NV compares to 1 and 2, though; there are enough differences between them that a comparison becomes difficult.

Not really.  The long time fans and more hardcore fans of fallout didn't really like new vegas that much.  The problem people had with it and why it's not as popular is the same reason what I said, the story telling in new vegas isn't as good as fallout 3.  The combat and that is actually improved a bit, but for people that want to play for the story we were sorely disappointed in the direction they took.
I know it's a opinion, I was just saying that the story telling in new vegas was the definite drawback to the game though.  You gotta agree with the dlc and the ability to nuke the entire ncr or such and how it doesn't effect the mojave is ridiculous.

Um, no, fans were actually more disappointed with Fallout 3. It's writing was wildly inconsistent with previous games, and was really kinda only a conflict between the ridiculous over-the-top evil and the obvious good.

I know it's a opinion, I was just saying that the story telling in new vegas was the definite drawback to the game though.  You gotta agree with the dlc and the ability to nuke the entire ncr or such and how it doesn't effect the mojave is ridiculous.

Firstly, Lonesome Road is meant to be end-game DLC. It doesn't affect the Mojave because at that point, the player is meant to be done. Secondly, the NCR is in California. When you take into account the fact that the the in-universe US severely scaled down the yields of their nuclear weapons, you end up with a lot of destruction but nothing nearly approaching what you're picturing.

And finally, Old World Blues. If you try to tell me that Old World Blues was bad, I actually have the legal right to destroy your soul.

[brony all alone]

you wanna know a GOOD game. far cry 3. open world choice making. with fully customizable weapons. and 2 endings. theres a good ending and a "good" ending, if you know what i mean. and theres a co-op storyline. good game/characters/guns/scenario. i recommend far cry 3. not 1, 2 is good. but 3s the good game.

[Scienza]

you wanna know a GOOD game. far cry 3. open world choice making. with fully customizable weapons. and 2 endings. theres a good ending and a "good" ending, if you know what i mean. and theres a co-op storyline. good game/characters/guns/scenario. i recommend far cry 3. not 1, 2 is good. but 3s the good game.

2 endings...

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[Frost]

@Hinds I apologize in advance for this post's brevity, but I'm stuck on my phone at the moment.

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