Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[Katarn]

@OAC

I think it will be more along lines of this AC/DC song.

[Guest]

But Katarn...

PUNS! Think of the puns! =P

[Katarn]

Nah, if they're handled bad, it's bad puns. And it's 'thunderstruck' and about artillery, not about actual thunder =P

[Katarn]

And even more. that song that I've linked describes this whole BJ's crew altitude, I think, towards what they are doing.

[Guest]

True, Highway to Hell's a classic.

[Evilgidgit]

I think it's an unanimous decision to go to Thunderhead.

[Moodyman90]

If you're close enough to a lighting strike to be considered Thunderstruck I don't think it matters what the song is about. Plus Thunderhead is a military base so it could fit in that way.

And arguably Highway to Hell covers just about every single road and path around Hoofington, let alone anywhere Blackjack decides to heads to.

I did some digging and confirmed what I knew but wasn't sure of. Tolstoy was paid by the page and was writing for serial installments rather then one huge book.

But that still doesn't mean PH should be cut short. Oh yeah, it has to end some day, but I'd rather Somber complete his vision than to cut it short. To the gamers out there, isn't it annoying when you get to what you feel is the half way point of a game and the next then you know the game is over?

[thatguyvex]

Hmm, a multi-part arc focusing on a city that's part of my favorite FoE faction? Yes please. Seriously, the story is already past the Length Event Horizon, no point in trying to curb it or cut it short now. For those of us who like our epics to be of epic length this is all just more nummy story for us to enjoy. For those who don't like epics of epic length... well I doubt you got many folk like that still reading this, so why bother worrying about it?

[O. Hinds]

Currently, I'm wrestling with a dilemma.  Part of me wants BJ to reach Thunderhead.  It will really give me a chance to show off Glory, explore a little with P-21 and Rampage, and get a little zebra involved as well.  However, another part of me wants to short cut to shadowbolt tower.  I'm not sure which would be better...  If I did go to Thunderhead, it would likely become a three parter.  Otherwise, I could just hurry things up and maybe get it done in one and a half.  Thoughts?

Well, in addition to what everyone else has said, I'd like to see Thunderhead.

"Pew-Pew" was hyphenated in the last chapter.

Ah, thank you.

[SilentCarto]

You've given more focus on the Enclave in your story and if BJ and crew could justifiably go to Thunderhead it could prove very interesting.

I was just thinking about that earlier today. The alicorns and Enclave form the main ongoing threat toward Pip in FOE, but as such, we see them mostly as homogenous, large-scale threats, and Red Eye's slavers and what's left of the Zebra population are varying degrees of frienemies. PH inverts that, with BJ on relatively friendly terms (heh) with both the Unity through Lacunae and the Enclave via Glory, while BJ puts out a blanket threat against all slavers and the Zebra Remnant plays the prominent, monolithic endgame threat.

@OAC
I think it will be more along lines of this AC/DC song.

Now, now, I think we should save that one for the road to the Core.

Littlepip: Blackjack! Hey, Blackjack! I finally found something I can beat you with!
Blackjack: Beat me with? Look, if you wanted something like that, there's a bat right over there.
Littlepip: ...what? No, no, I mean in our "who's survived through worse" thing.
Blackjack: Mmmk, let's hear it.
Littlepip: You know that balefire bomb that blew up the goddess? That was me! I was right there when it blew up, too!
Blackjack: Mmhmm, I know.
Littlepip: ...what?
Blackjack: Yeah. Good job with that safe room, too. All I could find was a rock to hide behind.
Littlepip: ...really.
Blackjack: I think I even died, again, too.
Littlepip: Right.
Blackjack: So, was that all, or...?
Littlepip: Oh, no, that's all. On a separate note... where did you say that bat was, again?

Hah! Unfortunately, Pip doesn't remember that conversation...

[Guest]

Littlepip: Blackjack! Hey, Blackjack! I finally found something I can beat you with!
Blackjack: Beat me with? Look, if you wanted something like that, there's a bat right over there.
Littlepip: ...what? No, no, I mean in our "who's survived through worse" thing.
Blackjack: Mmmk, let's hear it.
Littlepip: You know that balefire bomb that blew up the goddess? That was me! I was right there when it blew up, too!
Blackjack: Mmhmm, I know.
Littlepip: ...what?
Blackjack: Yeah. Good job with that safe room, too. All I could find was a rock to hide behind.
Littlepip: ...really.
Blackjack: I think I even died, again, too.
Littlepip: Right.
Blackjack: So, was that all, or...?
Littlepip: Oh, no, that's all. On a separate note... where did you say that bat was, again?

This is great. I read it, and then read it again because it was entertaining the first time. It was also entertaining the second. :)

[Derpmind]

Derpmind, did you see my post about how to find all the songs in Project Horizons?
I can't do so right now, but I could compile a list of all the ones currently used and linked tomorrow. I've already got most of the chapters downloaded as word documents.

Well, I had some free time to kill, and looking at the pages again I determined that finding all the youtube links would only take a few seconds per page, so I went manual through all of them. And then the website started crashing. :( Anyways, I have all the links now, so I'm gonna take a break and then do some organization on them.

[ARoundCorner]

What I don't understand is how BJ had a moment of independence (threatening to kill herself) only to be suddenly under the all powerful control of the goddess moments later.

And

Thunderhead please, if it pleases the Somber.

[Moodyman90]

That did seem odd, but between trying to kill Lacunae, having to undo what she did to Blackjack, and Little Pip arriving, there probably was a moment where the Goddess' hold was at it's weakest.

Plus all it would take is a twitch to pull the trigger, and while she couldn't hold her off for long Blackjack had been shown to resist some. At least enough to pull said trigger.

[Derpmind]

I meant finding the youtube links from the Fallout: Equestria Resource page, not the actual story and certainly not on Gdocs. So I guess we've been doing two separate things. (And the "Only take a few seconds" part must really have made no sense.)

Derp.

[O. Hinds]

I meant finding the youtube links from the Fallout: Equestria Resource page, not the actual story and certainly not on Gdocs. So I guess we've been doing two separate things. (And the "Only take a few seconds" part must really have made no sense.)

Derp.

Kay, still don't quite get what you're doing, but whatever, then.
My computer is now back to creating large files of semi-random information for no purpose beyond taking up all the free space on its hard drive.

I take some sort of strange pleasure of making it do pointless tasks just to wear it out. I imagine I picked it up from murky number 7.

Hah!

[SilentCarto]

What I don't understand is how BJ had a moment of independence (threatening to kill herself) only to be suddenly under the all powerful control of the goddess moments later.

As packed as Lacunae was, the Goddess could ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of either BJ or Lacunae, but not both at once. The bits she had to rip off to make BJ tractable pushed Lac over the edge. At least, that's how I rationalize it.

And for the folks who don't watch the art thread:
Nuclear Brohoof!

[FeatherDust]

Couple editing things on ch 58.

Spoiler:

[O. Hinds]

Couple editing things on ch 58.

Spoiler:

Ah, thank you.  I'm afraid that I don't really agree with the first or third ones, though.

[Somber]

If folks care to be handy with a PDF, any chance folks can list all the zebra tribes I've mentioned so I don't horribly their names?

[O. Hinds]

If folks care to be handy with a PDF, any chance folks can list all the zebra tribes I've mentioned so I don't horribly their names?

Off the top of my head:
Starkatteri
Propoli
Achu

Also, while checking the spelling of Propoli, I discovered a brief mention of Servi. I'm afraid that I don't recall whether the has or has not been a fifth, though; perhaps someone else here will be able to help there.

[O. Hinds]

Oh, and swicked, I've been busy and didn't have anything in particular to say in response to it, but I did enjoy your recently BJ/LP scene.  :)

[FeatherDust]

Just a few comments on 58:

Spoiler:

[RoboRed]

I nominate this song for the Eater of Souls battle soundtrack:

[Vergil]

I nominate this song for the Eater of Souls battle soundtrack:

On that note I'd like to nominate this for anything close to a climactic battle with Dawn:

[Guest]

Didn't she get that kissed by discord perk at one point though?

[Guest]

And? She recieved it so retroactively stronghooves was born into the universe.

[StoneSlinger88]

Wild Wasteland allows expy characters, items, and pop-culture references to become apparent in New Vegas. Not to mention how much of it Fallout 2 had.

[SilentCarto]

Somber, I have a question for you. Is the theme of identity something you deliberately built Project Horizons around, or is it just something that crept in because it interests you? Because practically every main character has issues that orbit that theme.

• Rampage, Lacunae, and Boo all introduce questions of identity and personhood by the sheer nature of their existence.
  
• Blackjack struggles with the disconnect between what BJ, the mare, wants to do and what Security, the persona, should do. For that matter, in the past, she has tried hard to disconnect the security mare called Blackjack from the daughter called Go Fish. And going forward, she had to deal with her changing self-image as she mutated, lost parts of her body, and had them replaced with synthetics, with Deus looming as the worst-case outcome.
  
• Glory's physical transformation into Rainbow Dash, obviously.
  
• P-21 was never given an identity in 99 -- not even a name. He's been called "blue colt" and "P-1" through "P-20", and it was only after the story began that he took P-21 as his permanent name.
  
• Twilight took on an alternate persona so she could be herself when her real identity became a facade she couldn't keep up 24/7.
  

And those are just the big ones. The theme shows up over and over -- Caprice concealing her identity from BJ, Echo taking on the appearance of Smiling Jack because he didn't like who he was, Deus shedding his given name after his Steelpony transformation. I know that "Who am I?" is, by some lights, the core question of any story, but that's more often faced in the sense of "What sort of person am I?", while Project Horizons seems to go out of its way to explore the question in a very literal sense.

[HillBilly-Drew]

does anybody know were i can find the new chapter? i havnt read it yet and cant seem to find it. ..... please help.

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