Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[iLateralGX]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Don't look at me though I have a shitty 545.

[Ketchup]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

[Valikdu]

Oh, and whatever you do - stay the fuck away from the GTX 460 and Titan cards.

...I once knew someone with a quad SLI of 460's.
I once knew someone with a quad SLI of 460's.

Was he rendering CGI or preparing for Crysis 10?

[Stringtheory]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

why do you hate windows 7? it's the functional version of vista

[O. Hinds]

re VirtualBox:
How is this better than VMWare? I've already got VMWare installed, after all, and I'd rather not go through the trouble of dumping it and installing something else instead without a good reason.

re security:
Hm. That's an interesting idea. Can VMWare run Linux too? I'm currently doing the reverse (browsing as usual in OSX and denying the Windows 7 VM any internet access at all), but that sounds like it might possibly be useful at some point.

[iLateralGX]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

Ah that would be a waste then.
Here I am with Windows 8 which is not much different from W7 really, so if you don't like 7 you don't like 8.

[O. Hinds]

I must say, the only way I've found Windows 7 to be at all better than (or as good as) OS 10.6.8 is the ease of merging folders. Windows machines can't even mount disc images without added software?

[iLateralGX]

I must say, the only way I've found Windows 7 to be at all better than (or as good as) OS 10.6.8 is the ease of merging folders. Windows machines can't even mount disc images without added software?

Windows 8 can, Windows 7 no.

[IncoherentOrange]

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

why do you hate windows 7? it's the functional version of vista

He doesn't like change. Or being able to use all of his RAM.
@Mounting images
Uh, why not DAEMON Tools? It's hardly a hassle.

[Kippershy]

Oh, and whatever you do - stay the fuck away from the GTX 460 and Titan cards.

...I once knew someone with a quad SLI of 460's.
I once knew someone with a quad SLI of 460's.

what happened to them?

Protip: the 4xx series in general was bad, but the 480 not AS bad as the 460.

what's a good cheap semi-future proof graphics card on the market right now?

AMD is best for price:performance ratio

7850 is probably the best cheaper card. 7870 is a good one too.
If you've got the money, 7950 is the sweet spot. 7970 is probably above what you're after though. (All Radeon HD series cards)

why do you dislike nvidia?

Nvidea cards aren't the devil, but they ARE:

-Overpriced / not as good in terms of price:performance
-Older cards (400 series) overheat drastically and super easily
-When a game isn't developed / optimised for them specifically, they clunk out a lot of the time
-Have "phsyx" which is a complete and utter sham and does nothing your CPU can't if you own any i5 or FX6300 or better
-The 580 is apparently better than the 660, somehow, despite that making no sense.
-Extremely lacking in VRAM
-Cannot into multi-monitor displays

Their good quality is that they SLI very well with little microstutter, something AMD has an issue with.

[Kippershy]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

Man up and get Win7, screw Win8 though. It's as bad as if not worse than Vista.

You're lagging behind on XP though, without a reliable 64bit OS (if you even are using the very dodgy XP 64bit at all). Also the amount of security flaws in XP and general response times...
Seriously, pirate a copy and dual boot it. Realise how amazing Win7 is.

[iLateralGX]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

Man up and get Win7, screw Win8 though. It's as bad as if not worse than Vista.

You're lagging behind on XP though, without a reliable 64bit OS (if you even are using the very dodgy XP 64bit at all). Also the amount of security flaws in XP and general response times...
Seriously, pirate a copy and dual boot it. Realise how amazing Win7 is.

How is Windows 8 as bad or worse than Vista? Vista had real issues with compatibility, and performance. Windows 8 is Windows 7 with improvements under the hood. The only difference is the start menu, which is the only thing people seem to complain about. I have a problem with it the start menu, yes. However it is nowhere near the tier of shit that was Vista.

[Kippershy]

Start menu.
Having to pay for the classic menu.
Other little bits here & there

Win8 is about the same as Vista to me because they should have known better.

[Stringtheory]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

Man up and get Win7, screw Win8 though. It's as bad as if not worse than Vista.

You're lagging behind on XP though, without a reliable 64bit OS (if you even are using the very dodgy XP 64bit at all). Also the amount of security flaws in XP and general response times...
Seriously, pirate a copy and dual boot it. Realise how amazing Win7 is.

How is Windows 8 as bad or worse than Vista? Vista had real issues with compatibility, and performance. Windows 8 is Windows 7 with improvements under the hood. The only difference is the start menu, which is the only thing people seem to complain about. I have a problem with it the start menu, yes. However it is nowhere near the tier of shit that was Vista.

okay, I know vista was pretty bad, but how bad was it? don't spare me any horror stories

[Frost]

Conversation with Iron's mom:

Me: "Don't worry, [Iron], we won't judge you."
Iron's mom: "Not before we kill you, anyway."

[iLateralGX]

Start menu.
Having to pay for the classic menu.
Other little bits here & there

Win8 is about the same as Vista to me because they should have known better.

I would like to hear these other things because the metro interface is something you wont even use. From my experience it's just better completely.

@string Essentially its compatibility with most programs designed for XP was shaky at best. Also it was horribly optimized. If you computer was barely able to run Vista, it may actually run BETTER with 7 which is horrible considering it is supposed to work the other way.

[Kippershy]

I don't have DX11, 9c works with everything I have aside from XCOM, which is easy to get working.

DX9 was awesome. All I am saying is DX11 is better, visually and performance wise. Which for me would warrant an upgrade.

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

Man up and get Win7, screw Win8 though. It's as bad as if not worse than Vista.

You're lagging behind on XP though, without a reliable 64bit OS (if you even are using the very dodgy XP 64bit at all). Also the amount of security flaws in XP and general response times...
Seriously, pirate a copy and dual boot it. Realise how amazing Win7 is.

How is Windows 8 as bad or worse than Vista? Vista had real issues with compatibility, and performance. Windows 8 is Windows 7 with improvements under the hood. The only difference is the start menu, which is the only thing people seem to complain about. I have a problem with it the start menu, yes. However it is nowhere near the tier of shit that was Vista.

okay, I know vista was pretty bad, but how bad was it? don't spare me any horror stories

To be honest, I had no issues myself.

[Harmony Ltd.]

re VirtualBox:
How is this better than VMWare?

Qualitatively ? I don't know. What I know is that it doesn't require any license for non-professional use, and you don't have to register an account on their website to download the thing.

If you have VMWare already installed, then no need to replace it. Just know that alternatives exist if one day you want to try something else.

[Kippershy]

re VirtualBox:
How is this better than VMWare?

Qualitatively ? I don't know. What I know is that it doesn't require any license for non-professional use, and you don't have to register an account on their website to download the thing.

If you have VMWare already installed, then no need to replace it. Just know that alternatives exist if one day you want to try something else.

My answer as a /g/entoo-man is this:

1. Install Gentoo
2. It's free as in Richard Stallman

[O. Hinds]

Of that I have little doubt. I'm still using XP because I dislike 7 and 8, and it doesn't support 11/10.

why do you hate windows 7? it's the functional version of vista

He doesn't like change. Or being able to use all of his RAM.
@Mounting images
Uh, why not DAEMON Tools? It's hardly a hassle.

Oh, I downloaded software (something called MagicDisc) when I needed to mount a .cue/bin as part of my experiments, and before that I was just telling VMWare to use the disc image in OSX as the Windows disc drive. I was just shocked to discover that mounting .isos wasn't a standard feature.

re VirtualBox:
How is this better than VMWare?

Qualitatively ? I don't know. What I know is that it doesn't require any license for non-professional use, and you don't have to register an account on their website to download the thing.

If you have VMWare already installed, then no need to replace it. Just know that alternatives exist if one day you want to try something else.

Ah, thank you.

[RoboRed]

Music game time.

I think this might actually fit with a part of most FoE stories, but I'd like to hear other opinions.

Hightower as the place is on fire and everyone's trying to GTFO.

On a more or less completely different topic, I just found this rather nice picture:

Spoilered mostly for size, but there is, if it bothers you, a nude equine statue in the image. Of course, the chances of anyone on this forum being offended by nothing more than weathered unclothed statuary seem rather low, but I thought that I'd better add the warning anyway.:

Image appears to be broken.

Musak gim !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8DFwIVYn9Q

I'm thinking Blackjack at the coastline, reflecting on things and about to commit suicide when Spike comes in to save the day.

@Windows discussion:
Win Vista: I had no problems whatsoever. Seriously. Throughout all the griping and bitching when it came out, I had no issue. I wouldn't go back to it, though. I'm far too used to 7 now, which is better in every way.
Win 7: Only a couple problems. Some older programs will no longer run. Oh, and I put it on my laptop and could no longer use my touchpad, and couldn't find any drivers that would make it work. Wasn't a big deal, though. I fucking hate touchpads.

But hey, that's what I get for putting 7 ultimate on a laptop that originally came with vista basic (which is the only vista I will admit is utter crap. I slapped home premium on that sucker first chance I got).

Win 8: I just got a new laptop mid-January that came with Windows 8. I've had a couple compatibility issues. One older game would not run on it (which ran fine on x64 Win 7), and Eclipse SDK will not run on it (which saddens me). One thing that I do dislike is that it has suddenly become more difficult for me to run self diagnostics. I have to do a bit of a song and dance just to be able to start the thing in safe mode, and I can't seem to access alternate start options at startup or through BIOS (but that could be the manufacturer's fault, not Microsoft's).

As for the issue of the missing start menu? Barely an issue at all. I however, already have things organized in a minimalist, easy-to-reach fashion, and doesn't clutter the desktop. You'll be spending quite a lot of time at the start screen anyways. So, if you're the person who has a bunch of shortcuts all over your desktop, just pin them in the start screen, and spend a little time trying to learn how to use Metro. It's really not all that bad. Also, hotkeys are your friend. Seriously. I will point out though that it was designed more for touchscreen use, so you lose some functions of 8 if you don't have a touchscreen or a multitouch touchpad.

desktop:

laptop:

I went and bought 8 Professional while it was still 40 bucks, and I'm seriously considering throwing it on my desktop if I don't use it to upgrade my laptop (if i even can. I couldn't download the damn thing on the laptop, but could on desktop. Gave me some bullshit reason that "it was not available in my area"). But, I'm still worried about any other hidden compatibility issues. I just need to get off my lazy ass and investigate first.


Ketchup, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but seriously, get with the new age. There is really no legitimate need to run XP now except for old games/programs. There's no sense in daily running an old OS that is unsupported, puts limitations on your hardware usage, and grows more and more vulnerable each day. Get a new OS.

[Ketchup]

I've heard all of that before more than once. I haven't had problems with viruses, and everything works fine. XP actually does get security updates, contrary to what people say.

That said, I'll be getting 7 when I get an SSD.

Essentially, I don't care enough to give it urgency.

[O. Hinds]

On a more or less completely different topic, I just found this rather nice picture:

Spoilered mostly for size, but there is, if it bothers you, a nude equine statue in the image. Of course, the chances of anyone on this forum being offended by nothing more than weathered unclothed statuary seem rather low, but I thought that I'd better add the warning anyway.:

Image appears to be broken.

That's odd. I've just checked the original post, and it's working there.
edit: It appears to be working in this quote, too.

[RoboRed]

Oh, THAT pic. Katarn posted that same pic in the RP offchat thread.

I can only seem to view your version if I directly copy the link, otherwise it won't show up. Seems Katarn offset the issue (whatever it is) by hosting it in his photobucket.

hidden for same reason:

[RoboRed]

It's not broken, it's 403.
Which, while I don't know specifically why it's 403ed, often seems to be a sporadic sort of error. Maybe the host site just doesn't like direct linking... but, once you get it in your cache, your computer just loads the image from that instead of requesting it again.
I dunno.

Witchcraft.




MUSIC GAME:

I have no idea what the title of the song is, so here is the World of Tanks vid I heard it in. It runs up to the five minute mark.:

[O. Hinds]

On a more or less completely different topic, I just found this rather nice picture:

Spoilered mostly for size, but there is, if it bothers you, a nude equine statue in the image. Of course, the chances of anyone on this forum being offended by nothing more than weathered unclothed statuary seem rather low, but I thought that I'd better add the warning anyway.:

Image appears to be broken.

That's odd. I've just checked the original post, and it's working there.
edit: It appears to be working in this quote, too.

It's not broken, it's 403.
Which, while I don't know specifically why it's 403ed, often seems to be a sporadic sort of error. Maybe the host site just doesn't like direct linking... but, once you get it in your cache, your computer just loads the image from that instead of requesting it again.
I dunno.

Yeah, it's not loading for me now unless I copy and paste the link. Huh.

[Frost]

I've still yet to see this image at all. *sheds single tear*

[Guest]

Ran the first round of my Pathfinder campaign yesterday. Gonna need to talk with one player about branding and attempting to convert everyone his character meets (including other players) to the Church of Moloch, but otherwise I think it went well. 3 negative levels and a near death in the first encounter! =D Yes, I am starting to take joy in allowing players to metagame themselves to death. (For the record, they started level five, so I feel no guilt about allowing them to bum rush a vampire)

[O. Hinds]

I've still yet to see this image at all. *sheds single tear*

Try this.

[Stringtheory]

I've still yet to see this image at all. *sheds single tear*

Try this.

now I'm getting a 403 error, it used to work in your old spoiler for me

EDIT: I meant RoboRed's

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