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I was referring to novelizations, but on the topic of canon-rape, yes, Matt Ward is the patron saint of idiocy, backed by his daemon god/ spiritual liege, Rawbutt Girlyman
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That was a Deus Ex joke not a meaningful comment on the discussion Featherdust.Cptadder wrote:Except she kinda did; see the end of my post about the Star Vision.Page four opens on fan art and discussion about Glorystein's monster by which I mean Glory's decision to bring Blackjack back to life and as a cyborg. (She never asked for this)
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Also with how many times Blackjack dies or brushes with death she should give the grim reaper high fives every time he walks by. I just hope she doesn't die permanently at the end of project horizons, cause that would suck her going through all that just to die.
Blackjack's vision is augmented.FeatherDust wrote:That was a Deus Ex joke not a meaningful comment on the discussion Featherdust.Cptadder wrote:Except she kinda did; see the end of my post about the Star Vision.Page four opens on fan art and discussion about Glorystein's monster by which I mean Glory's decision to bring Blackjack back to life and as a cyborg. (She never asked for this)
Also with how many times Blackjack dies or brushes with death she should give the grim reaper high fives every time he walks by. I just hope she doesn't die permanently at the end of project horizons, cause that would suck her going through all that just to die.
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@Iron: I meant the overall "gathering" there. BJ tried once to do one thing, failed, and gave up. Lacunae was there for all I remember, and didn't do shit to intervene. Then they stated "we can't do her out, it would take hours" then stood arguing for about 1-2 minutes, then dug her out once they were sure she had stopped breathing, dug her up in a extremely short time as it was described, then just dragger her off without bothering CPR, despite the fact she drowned. So yeah... I saw that whole scene as very "lazy", I got that Somber thought someone "had" to die, but it was pulled off poorly.
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- And aye. Though as said, sometimes it can be neat with something "bland", as long as it's done nicely. Needs a "cool down" time. or however to put it. But yeah, feels too often things are torn away and hastily scuffled over with duct tape. A bit like a major plot reveal like "BJ! Your mother is actually alive!" then there's 2-4 chapters about that, then it goes "Oh, uh, actually, my mistake, it was just a mare that looked similar to her, or I was high or something and imagined it. But we're cool right?" often feels like they just chickened out. Or as said, when they remake a characters personality as an excuse to get rid, pull a fast one, do a bad joke, force some OOC action out of them or whatever. I just don't like it. (Like BJ's and Psycho's (huge) overhaul a bit back. Given new quirks and traits out of the blue.
As for killing characters, some times I could see some possibly get back, but quite a few deaths have been rather bad, or some "savings" have been. Read quite a few characters die in a bit of a "I'm a NPC, I have no free will and cannot think for myself, so trying desperately to avoid danger and save myself is not an option" sort of ways. As for "resurrections" pulled out of the arse, those have also been rather tacky. But when it comes to PH, the about one I can see as possibly okay was with Glory, not really the "way" it was done however, but overall, with one wing, she ought to be able to damped her fall enough to not die from the impact at least, doing one of those "corkscrew plummets" as she descended. (speaking of which, she had a spare wing, could've grabbed BJ with that) some "miracle solutions" work, but some are just pulled out of the arse.
Yeah. It is something I see often from her. Very often contradicts herself in her own writing without seeming to care or notice. As for generic, that is mostly what I mean, I mean all that is "commonly seen" as "normal" by most people, several of which topics I've brought up multiple times. Like how many waste-landers (only mares, as Somber currently has them segregated) seem somewhat unphased by rape or several other afflictions. As "they just happen, just to forgive and forget" while it was a huge deal for BJ. Or how x cared a ton about y, but z didn't. Or as said, that "they weren't made of stone", and that all the mane six had to be shown fucking stallions, and it also HAD to be important major plot characters, since that totally made the most sense of any they could have picked. Along with abusing certain stereotypes to milk seeming plot points, like that all women wants to have children, and all the Mane six were incredibly reckless and retarded with this part, most obvious being the Golden+Shy, followed up by Twi+Mac, the later just being with the fact Twi suddenly got pushed onto the urge to nurture her "female side", wanting a child, despite clearly shown tendencies and statements in FoE she was not that type of mare, and especially since she did it reckless as fuck as said, thought Shy is still worse as said, not very unlike a fanatic religious person refusing to adopt, her child had a HUGE miscarriage chance, but no, she HAD to have her own biological child, it was how Celestia wanted it, she could never love an adopted child as much, more likely is as said Golden abusing her sexually to get a successor. And again, still curious to see how he tricked her or whatever he did to lure her to him, since as said, he sucks at pretty much every possible aspect of being useful to her, yet he was her best and only choice? Then ofc, the part he stated he knew he sucked and couldn't do shit for her, but kept doing it since he got someone to put his dick in, despite knowing he couldn't please her in any way, and would just cause her pain. As said, currently he overall seem as useful to her as if she was a recovering drug addict and suffering from PTSD, and he was a terminally ill, crippled guy with a meth lab that loves to talk about what caused her PTSD, needing almost all of her attention daily, and constantly tempting her to test out his new drugs as he sits and makes them all day... yes, I can see how this is a very good relationship to get her to relax and recover being forced to constantly work and be reminded of what she is trying to escape from...
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Failed to explain that one properly but, all and all, having BJ take one of the most direct and dangerous ways to get "cured" of her rape, to directly let go of all control, once again, repeating her position in the scenario and hope the stallion using her to get himself off wouldn't... take advantage off her or something while she just focused her best to not kill him... this seems like a very logical way to go. To me, having a phobia of needles, I see it as her trying to treat that with "TIE ME DOWN TO THAT TABLE AND INJECT ME WITH EVERY FLU SHOT AND VACCINE YOU GOT!" like... going with one of the most "direct" and closest reminding scenario to get over your fear doesn't seem like the best route... why not start with one syringe? Or even trying to inject it yourself? The fact that tactic worked and got rid of ALL her tension was also just retarded, along with her "being forgiving" and P-21 being pissed, since as said, he knows the pain of rape as one of the few single males in the entire wasteland (since as said, raiders rape fillies, but colts can't be raped, that would be wrong, so those we just torture and kill) to have been raped, and BJ to a degree went with the "I'm a female, I should know better than to do that." card, once again causing a bad segregated stereotype. Though the worst use of that was still with the batponies. ("Why yes, we do desperately need more genes at our disposal or we will die out. - Oh, oh! Can I also find a partner on the surface? I don't even need to fuck around like a slut like my brother! - No, definitely not, you should know better than your brother, you're female." Somber honestly seems to "slip up" in several gender areas as said, and some story parts where things "HAVE" to happen, or a character "HAS" to be like generic stereotype #7.) Trailing off a bit and not sure where going, but I've overall said all up to now that I thought was wrong with that whole Styg fiasco.
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And since I know I've mentioned it before, it is not entirely unlike when artists draw 18+ MLP males with "anatomically accurate" parts, but gives porn star white human ones to all females. Not seeming to see anything contradicting or "wrong" with it, but if they see a male pony with human parts, they more or less flip out over "how stupid it looks" so to speak, and to not exclude the ones that do the same for "correct" female ones, saying something amidst the lines that "they're not zoophiles", kinda seeming to not really understand that it very much goes both ways in about all logical terms and ways. Trailed off a bit here, but I think Glorian can explain it a bit better: Again, time links only work in links. (that's a bit how I see some's mentality about things, that series are great btw, and it has a whole labyrinth segment that it more or less just that guy not managing to get a single fuck.)
And as said, Somber has a bit of a problem with pacing, but I do to, so can't say too much about it. But some things get over waaay too fast, and others just take ages. But yeah, sometimes I think they took the right decision, since overall as said, many of the times, BJ was too emotionally weak to handle the death of a friend. But as said, Somber seems to have "borders" she can't cross, yet others they happily stroll past and go way over the fucking top with... to a degree a bit of my mental imagine is someone gutting live babies while singing, then flips out as soon as someone kicked a dog going "How COULD you? That poor creature is defenceless! Have you no soul?". Not my mental image of Somber mind you, just of that whole concept of being chill with one thing, but strongly against something else related to it.
But yeah, for the taint thing, it makes little to no sense if BJ just stumbled across shit and did things and got into unity due to it, taint is just a bi-product of shit, most just fucks you up or kill you. Besides, it if worked like that, Pip would have had her ovaries handed to her. If anything, I can see her accidentally "sucking in" a part of Lac in her when she messed with her head. Or as said, that Lac liked, gave her a enema of the alicorn vat or something xD As said, the goddess being unable to control Pip herself, ad like, 12 alicorns BARELY making her lift a gun towards Velvet, this seems like some other plot thing that could mess up the story if it's not explained well. Kinda like the whole "We have phoenix down's... why can't we bring them back to life again?" question in FF. And how come it only works inside battle?
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Ironmonger wrote:They probably couldn't afjord cars anyway.
I found this picture just for you.Mister Frost wrote:No, but they were strong enough to do some Cheavy lifting by themselves
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guarddogjr wrote:I never could see Rainbow as part of the Emperors Children, that seems more like Rarity's legion.
- Well, yeah.:
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Valikdu wrote:Ironmonger wrote:They probably couldn't afjord cars anyway.I found this picture just for you.Mister Frost wrote:No, but they were strong enough to do some Cheavy lifting by themselves
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guarddogjr wrote:I never could see Rainbow as part of the Emperors Children, that seems more like Rarity's legion.
- Well, yeah.:
I declare this to be heresy. Sexy, sexy heresy
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Yeah I wanted to smack Lacunae and the others for their behaviour during Medley's death. IF they had gotten everyone to pitch in and help they could have saved Medley.
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- Also, Leman Dash.:
Mister Frost wrote:That's a rough google image search. I see Rainbow as more a Khorne Berzerker
- Nope, that's Applebloom.:
Ironmonger wrote:I think I got a halfway decent pun. Americans complete tasks, Europeans Finnish them.
- I will inflict horrors on you. I'm serious.:
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Valikdu wrote:
- Also, Leman Dash.:
Mister Frost wrote:That's a rough google image search. I see Rainbow as more a Khorne Berzerker
- Nope, that's Applebloom.:
The skimpiness of that child's armor makes me concerned for the fandom
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I made a thing.
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Source
I like this human! He understands!
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Two words: Matt Ward
That's not how you spell William Ditz.
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I'm fairly certain Matt Ward also hates women
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given what he did to the Sisters of Battle, at least rules wise, yeah, at least we're pretty sure he didn't write the fluff, because there they're actually awesomeMister Frost wrote:I'm fairly certain Matt Ward also hates women
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Look up the Khornate Knights incident in the Grey Knights fluff (that he wrote)
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The new codex writer is someone no one seems to have a beef with.
Sometimes I sneak some warhammer stuff into my writing, at times not so much "sneak" as "covert pink elephant."
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EDIT: I haven't had my coffee yet and I'm in the process of writing, which means I likely won't be contributing anything besides snide comments andsynthesized rage hormones puns. If you see a post from me know what to expect.
Sometimes I sneak some warhammer stuff into my writing, at times not so much "sneak" as "covert pink elephant."
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EDIT: I haven't had my coffee yet and I'm in the process of writing, which means I likely won't be contributing anything besides snide comments and
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I am rather irate at the moment. Did you know that a student ID for the institution at which I'm trying to take the test is not valid for the GRE? Well, that's understandable, I suppose, so here-- What's that? A Georgia Voter ID isn't valid either? I don't suppose that my insurance card would help? Library card? No? Well, I'm glad that you agree that the online instructions are a bit confusing, and that you admit that you know who I am, but that doesn't mean that you're actually going to help, does it? Thought not. Oh, but you say that I can pay fifty dollars to reschedule instead of a hundred and fifty dollars to reregister? Oh, wait, I could have paid that three days ago? Now that I actually know that there's a problem, I've got to pay another $150? Well, thank you, Prometric. Also, BLEEP you.
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That's FUBAR, Hinds
I know that feel. Prometric killed my parents
I know that feel. Prometric killed my parents
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GRE?O. Hinds wrote:*snip*
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College kinda sounds like a BOHICA situation. (Bend Over Here It Comes Again)
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Okay, so I've finished altering all the things I wanted to alter in the vanilla DF files.
Now I've got a half-megabyte error log to sort through and fix all the things I did wrong. Sigh.
Now I've got a half-megabyte error log to sort through and fix all the things I did wrong. Sigh.
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...You know, I'm not actually sure what it stands for.stringtheory wrote:GRE?O. Hinds wrote:*snip*
Also, I'm now somewhat calmer due to having gone out back and violently demolished some sticks
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O. Hinds wrote:...You know, I'm not actually sure what it stands for.stringtheory wrote:GRE?O. Hinds wrote:*snip*
Also, I'm now somewhat calmer due to having gone out back and violently demolished some sticks
Fuck sticks. Sticks killed my parents.
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Mister Frost wrote:O. Hinds wrote:...You know, I'm not actually sure what it stands for.stringtheory wrote:GRE?O. Hinds wrote:*snip*
Also, I'm now somewhat calmer due to having gone out back and violently demolished some sticks
Fuck sticks. Sticks killed my parents.
Now that's a sticky situation.
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Ironmonger wrote:Mister Frost wrote:O. Hinds wrote:...You know, I'm not actually sure what it stands for.stringtheory wrote:GRE?O. Hinds wrote:*snip*
Also, I'm now somewhat calmer due to having gone out back and violently demolished some sticks
Fuck sticks. Sticks killed my parents.
Now that's a sticky situation.
Cut that shit out. Puns killed my parents
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Ironmonger wrote:Now that's a sticky situation.
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XCom Update: Having avoided killing my entire first team, finally got nicknamed units:
Female Assault (no one claims Frost you okay with being a GIRL?)
Male Heavy (no one claims)
Male Sniper (CamoBadger)
Male Support (oHinds)
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General strategy is to keep my better units back and send red-shirts to scout. As long as it wasn't a rush mission (bomb or terror) I'm taking things extra slow. Seriously 63% at point blank range? And String, do you want to be a class in my Classic Ironman XCom game?
Female Assault (no one claims Frost you okay with being a GIRL?)
Male Heavy (no one claims)
Male Sniper (CamoBadger)
Male Support (oHinds)
On the way is a Male assault (probably will be Ironmonger)
General strategy is to keep my better units back and send red-shirts to scout. As long as it wasn't a rush mission (bomb or terror) I'm taking things extra slow. Seriously 63% at point blank range? And String, do you want to be a class in my Classic Ironman XCom game?
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stringtheory wrote:Ironmonger wrote:Now that's a sticky situation.
A picture may say a thousand words, but that one is the weakest link. (it doesn't show up)
EDIT: Male assault? Don't accuse me of such things!
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Ironmonger wrote:stringtheory wrote:Ironmonger wrote:Now that's a sticky situation.
A picture may say a thousand words, but that one is the weakest link. (it doesn't show up)
EDIT: Male assault? Don't accuse me of such things!
Don't tempt me Iron, or I will make you point man.
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Ironmonger wrote:So once it uses those souls what happens to them, do they go free? Do they...explode?
No. It can't consume souls unlike its own. It can't "use" them, except as torture targets... not unlike Vader with Han and Leia on Cloud City. Its whole plan is to get the other souls screaming with it until the stars can't stand the noise anymore and try to stop it with another impact that it can consume for power.FeatherDust wrote:Probably get destroyed for power or something, I dunno.
Given its goal of a universal monotone, though, I would assume that a risen EoS would drag those souls along for eternity, seeking out other living planets to add to its chorus and other stars to consume until all songs were its own. It would be a psychic Galactus, seeking to trap all souls everywhere forever. Left unchecked, it would spend eternity pointlessly holding the Outer Things at bay in the corpse of a universe without life or light.
Cheery, huh?
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OneMoreDaySK wrote:Ironmonger wrote:stringtheory wrote:Ironmonger wrote:Now that's a sticky situation.
A picture may say a thousand words, but that one is the weakest link. (it doesn't show up)
EDIT: Male assault? Don't accuse me of such things!
Don't tempt me Iron, or I will make you point man.
I guess I'll be appointed as point man, and I'll make my point to the enemy with copper points. I take back my other statement, I once beat a mailman into submission because he gave me someone else's male. Dog.
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Here let me Google that for youO. Hinds wrote:...You know, I'm not actually sure what it stands for.stringtheory wrote:GRE?O. Hinds wrote:*snip*
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