Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[Caoimhe]

Common consensus from IRC seems to be 'smut based on implied sex in an existing fic.' I had no idea so many existed, and at least one for PH even!

I've encountered only one other story with such passages, and I'm not going to be reading those, no. (They're clop scenes between a human and Rainbow Dash. ...I'd rather, y'know, not.)

That just sounds creepers. Yeesh.

[IncoherentOrange]

It's creepers, alright.

[WavemasterRyx]

@nebulous:

@Kattlarv:

@Cptadder:

Today I found out what a "chapter .5" fanfic means. Oh my....

The IRC are a bunch of silly fillies... .5 chapters don't have to be about sex... The only reason the ones that have been written for FoE and PH are is because straight up graphic sex is one of the few things FoE and PH don't have.

[SilentCarto]

Re: KSP
I don't think it's possible to get to Mun. The demo's parts are too heavy for the thrust they give. Reaching orbit is easy once you realize how everything works, but by then, I'm always out of fuel. I can't add more because it would require a higher fuel consumption to get it up there, nullifying it. I did try strapping a whole bunch of engines together, and after it exploded a dozen times on the launchpad it lost control and crashed despite RCS and SAS systems.

Well, low power is the only way to get around efficiently once you get into space. I used a triple cluster of main engines with three tanks each, with each assisted up by a pair of SRBs for my first stage. (Struts and fins as necessary.) I keep the attitude locked to vertical until that burns out. Above that, a two-tank liquid engine; that's for achieving orbit. You aim the ship straight east, level with the artificial horizon, and wait until you're close to apogee, then fire that until you have a decent orbit. That should cost most of its fuel, so use whatever's left to nudge yourself into a nice, circular orbit, then throw it away.

The final "munar transit" stack is the smaller, gimballed liquid engine and one tank of fuel. You run it at minimum power for a minute or two at a time to adjust your orbit. Remember that firing the engine along your orbit extends the opposite side; use that to stretch one side out to the Mun's orbit about a quarter of the way ahead of the Mun. Once you get close, its gravity will capture you; point the engine against the orbit and fire at minimum power until you stop being on a hyperbolic path out in to the solar system. Another shot at periapsis will slow you into orbit.

Now, you do have to be very conservative with your fuel. To get back home, keep in mind that you'll be moving around with the Mun until you break away from it, so aim your departure orbit "behind" the Earth. (You'll see what I mean the first time you screw it up. ) It's a good idea to do what you can to fall directly to the Earth, because you won't have enough fuel to nudge into an orbit and then deorbit again. Once you break from Mun's gravity, use gentle midcourse corrections to put your orbital path through the Earth.

Hopefully you still have a little fuel left. Save that until you get close, and try to aim for the ocean. (I got completely screwed over once when I made it all the way to the Mun and back, then died rolling down a mountain on landing.)

Happy landings!

[Cptadder]

@Cptadder:

Well look on the bright side, specifically the bright side of a bell curve. The infamous 1963 address which was pretty much the close to or was the high mark of the yes we are intolerant and proud of it movement was 1963. Average lifespan overs in the 70-80 range world wide so lets assume 80. Meaning to be school age and be indoctrinated into such beliefs in 1963 you have to be part of that rough generation lets say all twelve to twenty four year olds. So 55 to 68 years after 1963 would be... 2018 to 2030. As it stand those in the prime range are just about ready to start dieing off. By 2024 we can expect almost half those alive of that range to be dead, add another ten years and that jumps to two out of every three.

Fun fact, the first members of the Internet generation (1993-1999) won't be ready to start dieing off until of course 2067 meaning we can expect the millennials to start dropping right after 2100...
Wow do you realize exactly how many "in the future" movies we already blown past? There's gotta be a website for that out there somewhere from all the 60s, 70s and 80s sci-fi movies about the far off distant future of... 2002.

[tylertoon2]

@Lateral

Sorry Lateral I accidentally confused your sim with Eurumpet's. He is the beef cake. Not you.

[WovenTales]

Got's a question for y'all: what're your opinions on text adventure games?

As far as I know, I'm rather uncommon for my age group (early mid '90's; however, my sample is rather limited and biased towards those slightly younger than me, so take that with a grain of salt) in that I have never had and don't want a Facebook page, love reading and hiking, appreciate old technology (just bought the core of an Apple II, minus monitor and keyboard ), made some of my closest friends in a pen-and-paper roleplaying group, and, yes, like those archaic walls of text resembling games. I haven't actually completed too many of them, but from the more-than-minimal selection I've tried, I've found that I connect more with the character, even if they have an established personality, than with just about any other medium. And the quality is certainly variable, but many of them have created just as strong an image—if not more so—as these modern graphics provide. While they may not be as action-packed, that's generally not what I'm game, or any sort of narrative for that matter. The Myst series remains some of my favorite "traditional" computer games, I find Peter Dickenson's Eva far superior to the similar-but-different Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and the books that make me keep going back tend to have great worldbuilding.

Well, that was long, overly personal, and unnecessary rambly. I must be tired. Anyway, TLDR: I love them

[Kippershy]

Just played this. Took me a bit too long to realize I could just string tanks of fuel together without separate engines. After that, orbit was easy.
Did you make it to the moon? I don't think I'm entertained enough by this to try.

Well, you can't just stack the rocket infinitely high. One engine will only lift so much. And if it's too tall, it starts whipping around and breaks in half and then there's screaming and fire everywhere...

But yes, I succeeded in reaching Munar orbit (periapsis less than 300 km, WHEEE!) and returning safely to Kerbin.

...I have now created a rocket that will send the astronauts out into orbit around the sun, eventually returning to Kerbin when their orbits overlap again, I suppose.
Even at warp speed this is taking a while, so I think I'm just going to end the launch :P

DON'T END LAUNCH.
Go to space centre/tracking station instead, the ship will continue orbit naturally and when you go to the tracking station, it'll be doing whatever orbit it is doing until you do end launch.


It's nice to have it there, just to say you did it.

[Kippershy]

Quite hard, I reckon.
I've had a kerbal (yes, a lone kerbal) orbit the sun however.

[IncoherentOrange]

...What happened to the other two?

[Kippershy]

They were left in the comfort of the space ship.
This one Kerbal farted or something, they must've thrown him out for not owning up to it.


...when in actuality, it wasn't him, it was the other one. the one who suggested he be thrown out for not owning up to the fart.

[Kattlarv]

@Cao: Tbh, I actually partially expected you to take part of the current porn discussion xP Not overly sure why though hehe. xP

@Kipper, no offence, but I think I'd be a bad pillow xP

And my perception is just (often) very high at first, I do notice almost everything, the fact I forget a lot of it nor can't understand all is another thing xD

Glad you like though, gives a much clearer view of my pride hehe :P

@Robo: I've explained about the teeth in prior comments hehe. But what'cha think? Pretty impressive huh?

@Swicked: Ah, got an answer for everything, don't you? xD And I am usually very patient, this time I was a tad bit too giddy though xP

I think this has been linked before: http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/senior_year/science.png x3 And thank you ^^

And yes, this had nothing to do with Somber logging quickly, must just have checked their PM's.

@OneMore: I'd recommend that you don't if you are sensitive or dislike 18+ stuff. Many of my posts are in spoilers for a reason, to spare the sanity of those not wanting to see or hear about my escapades ;D

And I think it can be so-so at times, sometimes they can be really neat.

@Cao: I actually didn't know what the ".5" meant, but I have seen them around, heck, I even did one for PH... technically... does it count like that you guys?

@Wave:

Spoiler:

[FeatherDust]

Well, my Most Annoying Sound is the standard electronic alarm clock sound -- that NAAK NAAK NAAK NAAK that sounds like a squirrel being repeatedly electrocuted. Obnoxious on its own, with added annoyance because it's waking you up.

[Valikdu]

They're clop scenes between a human and Rainbow Dash

Hmm. I wonder which fanfic about Rainbow Dash and a human would be so popular as to...
...wait
are you saying what I think yo--
NO
NOT MY LITTLE DASHIE, YOU MANIACS! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

even if Barking Dog and Relic are still around, there isn't going to be one, just like there won't be a sequel to Freelancer... Makes me sad.

Well, Barking Dog hasn't been for a long time. People from there formed Cerberus Kerberos Productions which made Sword of the Stars. Speaking of which, I've been hearing that SotS II has become kinda playable (after almost a year of biweekly patching).

While I love reading about Dwarf fortress it's a game I just can't get into because of the creator's insano standards. Ever heard of the point defense mod for Homeworld 2? A great mod that went south when the creators stopped focusing on making an interesting mod and instead making an art project just for themselves. Compare it to Minecraft, when they knew they had a good thing they started making it easier to mod in better looking texture, new parts and new functions while DF and PD both tried to shut those down.

Um... I don't get it. DF is about the most moddable game there is. Apart from some things that are still hardcoded (but my not be , in the future) most content can be altered, added or removed by using the easy-to-understand token language.

[IncoherentOrange]

They're clop scenes between a human and Rainbow Dash

Hmm. I wonder which fanfic about Rainbow Dash and a human would be so popular as to...
...wait
are you saying what I think yo--
NO
NOT MY LITTLE DASHIE, YOU MANIACS! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

Remove that notion from your head right now, and stop worrying; it's a different story, thank goodness. Actually, you would not believe how often human OCs (or worse, self-inserts) get shipped with Rainbow Dash in stories from lesser authors like me. Well, none of my stories have much shipping whatsoever, only friendshipping, but, meh.

I bought SotS II, but I haven't played it, and won't until Sins of a Solar Empire gets boring.

[Caoimhe]

Rainbow Dash, to creeps, seems to be the "manic pixie dreamgirl" fantasy. I really don't get it. I guess Pinks is too intense for losers to fantasize about.

@Katt I missed pornchat. Been crazy busy. Next time!

[Icy Shake]

@Kattlarv, re nitpicking: Let's remember whom you're talking about here .

In other news, thanks to a commenter on One Man's Pony Ramblings I've started reading/watching/playing Homestuck (I'm just at the start of Act 5, Act 2), and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a narrative with as much going on. I feel like I should be reading it with notes for which character is which and their aliases, at the very least, and the time/location stuff is harder to follow (just because there's so much going on) than anything I've consumed but Primer. That said, I'm loving it, even if I rely on the recaps more than I would like.

Also, my graduate program had a mixer last night; it was really cool to meet some of the new students and some faculty I hadn't met yet, including the head of another department who turned out to be a very nice guy with an interesting background. The only disappointment in the whole evening was that I've decided I probably won't ever need or want another negroni. But nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[Cptadder]

Um... I don't get it. DF is about the most moddable game there is. Apart from some things that are still hardcoded (but my not be , in the future) most content can be altered, added or removed by using the easy-to-understand token language.

No the most mod able game in existence is apparently Trials Evolution. But I mean official embrace, it's long past the time to move on from a symbols based visual style into something fit for super advanced year of 2002 let alone the current visual style of the 80s.

On another note lets see we've mentioned Sins, Minecraft, Dwarf Fortress, lets throw in TF2, the Fallout series (Of course!) let me throw up a shout out to... (Checks massive steam list) ummm Left4Dead 2 which is currently at seventy four full length campaigns not counting modified of the vanilla campaigns on Left 4 Dead Maps that have a 8.0 on the rating scale or better. There are a few 7.0 campaigns that are worth playing but all the 8.0s or better are a blast. There's thirty plus 9.0 or better campaigns and I've played every single one of them except for one (Questionable Ethics) you can go through in single player the entire thing. Ooodles of free content, that's why I love modding.

Some of my favorite L4D2 campaigns are Dead Before Dawn, Suicide Blitz, Tour of Terror, Death Abroad, One 4 Nine, Vienna Calling and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Zombies which is exactly what it sounds like... the entire Disneyland Indiana Jones ride but with zombies it's a frigging blast.

[Kippershy]

guys, does my head look big in this?

[RoboRed]

@Robo: I've explained about the teeth in prior comments hehe. But what'cha think? Pretty impressive huh?

Spoiler:

They're clop scenes between a human and Rainbow Dash

Hmm. I wonder which fanfic about Rainbow Dash and a human would be so popular as to...
...wait
are you saying what I think yo--
NO
NOT MY LITTLE DASHIE, YOU MANIACS! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

If anyone went and turned MLD into a clopfic, they deserve to be shot and buried in a shallow grave.

[IncoherentOrange]

You nailed it. For some reason, it's extremely popular.

[Caoimhe]

I was told about it while doing research. It sounds like it was written by someone with severe crippling depression.

From what I've heard: A man who lives alone without friends discovers and raises Rainbow Dash as if she was his daughter, a act which amounts to his only joy in life. She even calls him "daddy." I haven't read the story but it sounds like a cry for help from someone too lonely to function.

Fans of it are literally moved to tears. The concept and reaction makes me feel really uncomfortable.

[IncoherentOrange]

Misanthropy is kind of prevalent in this fandom--have you ever read The Conversion Bureau? It's not heavy in MLD, but it's there, too.

[RoboRed]

It's an alright fic. I didn't cry during it. Another fic he posted, on the other hand, had me fighting back tears, but I think a large part in that was because of the music choice he posted with it.

Ah, yes, The Conversion Bureau. As much hate as that universe gets, there are a few good fics in there. Last Man Standing is my favorite.

[Caoimhe]

Re: Conversion Bureau: Haven't heard of that but I looked it up. I'm not too into the idea of cross-universe stuff but the concept is interesting and it's pleasing to see so many authors inspired to write and expand a universe like that.

I can understand sad, depressing or misanthropic stories (heck, FoE universe has elements of all) but what I read about MLD just seemed way too much like someone's coping mechanism for dealing with serious mental issues. It reminded me too much of certain people I know that rather than get help, regress into unhealthy obsession and fantasy. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist but it could pose harm to others in similar situations who think that extreme escapism is okay.

I suppose I should read it rather than make arguments based on snippets, fan art, reactions, etc. Maybe at some point.

[CamoBadger]

Misanthropy is kind of prevalent in this fandom--have you ever read The Conversion Bureau? It's not heavy in MLD, but it's there, too.

Okay, so what is The Conversion Bureau about?

Conversion Bureau is a universe of stories in which the pony universe has found a way to connect with the human universe, and allow certain humans to be turned into ponies and live in Equestria rather than the particularly shitty lives they had as humans.

[IncoherentOrange]

In the original, to go about it bluntly, it's kind of like Hitler's Final Solution, but instead of some specific demographics, it's to all of humanity, and instead of murder, it's polymorphing.

It's just rediculous, claiming that turning everyone into ponies will solve all of our problems as a civilization. To try and justify it further, it is claimed that Equestria's magic is expanding and humanity will die if they aren't turned into ponies. It's a good base idea, but why so much hate on humanity?

[Ketchup]

Equestria's magic is expanding and humanity will die if they aren't turned into ponies.

Lol, wat? How does that make sense?

[OneMoreDaySK]

Misanthropy is kind of prevalent in this fandom--have you ever read The Conversion Bureau? It's not heavy in MLD, but it's there, too.

Okay, so what is The Conversion Bureau about?

Conversion Bureau is a universe of stories in which the pony universe has found a way to connect with the human universe, and allow certain humans to be turned into ponies and live in Equestria rather than the particularly shitty lives they had as humans.

Although there are some fics within the bureau that are pro-human. Some even declare war on Equestria.

As for My Little Dashie, it's alright, I supposed. I didn't really cry or anything. Seriously, replace Dashie with a pet/adopted child and you'd still get the same reaction, methinks. Timeskip didn't help.

In the original, to go about it bluntly, it's
kind of like Hitler's Final Solution, but instead of some specific
demographics, it's to all of humanity, and instead of murder, it's
polymorphing.

It's just rediculous, claiming that turning
everyone into ponies will solve all of our problems as a civilization.
To try and justify it further, it is claimed that Equestria's magic is
expanding and humanity will die if they aren't turned into ponies. It's a
good base idea, but why so much hate on humanity?

Methinks there were some horror stories where one's personality would be
completely gutted in favor of a nice, happy pony. Those are kinda
interesting, and creep me out.

[IncoherentOrange]

The deconstructions and re-imaginings of TCB can be quite interesting, not all of them portray humanity as a race of greedy, violent monsters, and the ponies as a morally-infallible race of saints.

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