Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[RoboRed]

Alright, I took Aon's offhand picture idea and
went with it. So, I present to you, the PH commentariat: Aonee's OC -
Crystalane, comforting our grey goddess - Somber, in her time of
sorrow.

It still looks nice, especially considering you have to work through limitations, and you tried your best, that's all anyone could ask. <3

Thank you.

[Cptadder]

On a totally unrelated if someone was doing a re-read right now and started today reading a chapter a day, aside from number of Blackjack kills are there any other statistics I should note down as I read of "useless facts that people always wondered but were to lazy to check for themselves"

[NoodleNugget]

how many times the word "The" is used in conversation.

nah i kid, i kid.

how about how many times blackjack says she isnt a smart pony?

[SilentCarto]

On a totally unrelated if someone was doing a re-read right now and started today reading a chapter a day, aside from number of Blackjack kills are there any other statistics I should note down as I read of "useless facts that people always wondered but were to lazy to check for themselves"

"Pants Exploded".
(Let's see, there's Caprice, Glory, Stygius... What do you mean, 'that's not what that measures'?)

[Ketchup]

On a totally unrelated if someone was doing a re-read right now and started today reading a chapter a day, aside from number of Blackjack kills are there any other statistics I should note down as I read of "useless facts that people always wondered but were to lazy to check for themselves"

I might do this, actually. Summer break permitting.
"Party kills" would be nice, but approximate, because of the centrality on Blackjack.(Not a bad thing.)
"Ammo expended" is impossible. Sad.
"Shotguns lost/acquired" would be funny.
"Total companions"
"Companions lost"
"Memory orbs experienced"
"Violent encounters"
"Weapon progression"
"Factions encountered"
"Times saved from death"
"Potions drank"
"Named locations found"
"Conspiracies"(I kid)
Just to name a few.

[Cptadder]

Few good suggestions, my current list with Noodle and Ketchup's suggestions

Blackjack kills
Blackjack says she is not smart pony
Memory orbs
Potions drank or just times shot (There's a running joke that Littlepip is 100% lead based on how many times she was shot) so I'm not sure if I'll just note wounds or also included healing. I think both.

Locations found I'm iffy on.

[Rafafidi]

@O.Hinds
“P- P- Proditor!?” Xanthe stammered in shock. “Te imploro non me occide!”
I thought that zebras represented chinese, like in the games. Why is she speaking in latim?

[NoodleNugget]

@O.Hinds
“P- P- Proditor!?” Xanthe stammered in shock. “Te imploro non me occide!”
I thought that zebras represented chinese, like in the games. Why is she speaking in latim?

Zebras replaced the Chinese. I think they should speak Swahili or something.

[Aonee]

@O.Hinds
“P- P- Proditor!?” Xanthe stammered in shock. “Te imploro non me occide!”
I thought that zebras represented chinese, like in the games. Why is she speaking in latim?

Zebras replaced the Chinese. I think they should speak Swahili or something.

Different tribes, different native langauges that all got kinda suppressed as the tribes got together?

[NoodleNugget]

@O.Hinds
“P- P- Proditor!?” Xanthe stammered in shock. “Te imploro non me occide!”
I thought that zebras represented chinese, like in the games. Why is she speaking in latim?

Zebras replaced the Chinese. I think they should speak Swahili or something.

Different tribes, different native langauges that all got kinda suppressed as the tribes got together?

well actually now that i think about it, there is the legate so I would assume the zebras are also taking the roll of Caesars legion so Latin kinda makes sense in that aspect... I would still have prefered it if they spoke Swahili though but I guess this will do.

[WavemasterRyx]

"Pants Exploded".
(Let's see, there's Caprice, Glory, Stygius... What do you mean, 'that's not what that measures'?)

Oh man, why did I never save the gif of the guy from the black and white movie that is sitting in a theater clapping... This comment totally needs that gif as a response, cause this is hilarious Silent.
*falls over giggling*

[SilentCarto]

well actually now that i think about it, there is the legate so I would assume the zebras are also taking the roll of Caesars legion so Latin kinda makes sense in that aspect... I would still have prefered it if they spoke Swahili though but I guess this will do.

I kinda wanted them to speak Swahili too, but that's not how Kkat wrote it, so... *shrug*

Oh man, why did I never save the gif of the guy from the black and white movie that is sitting in a theater clapping... This comment totally needs that gif as a response, cause this is hilarious Silent.
*falls over giggling*

I know the one you mean, so I'll just imagine it here.

[RoboRed]

Just google "slow clap". First one that shows up.

[Ametros]

Few good suggestions, my current list with Noodle and Ketchup's suggestions

Blackjack kills
Blackjack says she is not smart pony
Memory orbs
Potions drank or just times shot (There's a running joke that Littlepip is 100% lead based on how many times she was shot) so I'm not sure if I'll just note wounds or also included healing. I think both.

Locations found I'm iffy on.

You should add in explosions around Blackjack/things Blackjack blew up. (Have fun at Hippocratic!) :D :P

[Cptadder]

Few good suggestions, my current list with Noodle and Ketchup's suggestions

Blackjack kills
Blackjack says she is not smart pony
Memory orbs
Potions drank or just times shot (There's a running joke that Littlepip is 100% lead based on how many times she was shot) so I'm not sure if I'll just note wounds or also included healing. I think both.

Locations found I'm iffy on.

You should add in explosions around Blackjack/things Blackjack blew up. (Have fun at Hippocratic!) :D :P

Final list unless I get any last minute suggestions.

Blackjack kills
Blackjack says she is not smart pony <-NoodleNugget suggestion
Blackjack Injuries
Blackjack Sexy time
Explosions <-CalamityWhen suggestion
Memory orbs <-ketchup504 suggestion
Potions drank <-ketchup504 suggestion

[Derpmind]

On a totally unrelated if someone was doing a re-read right now and started today reading a chapter a day, aside from number of Blackjack kills are there any other statistics I should note down as I read of "useless facts that people always wondered but were to lazy to check for themselves"

Lamentations for the loss of Perks?

[Rafafidi]

I was wondering why Ahuizotl had his name changed from the Fallout 3 equivalent, when almost every other ghould had the same.So I searched images and saw this:

Spoiler:

Does that mean that this ghoul is trying to unseal/summon him?

[OneMoreDaySK]

Random question: Does the starmetal sword absorb/sends to EoS the souls that it kills? This kind of reminds me of the Kingdom Hearts II scenario.

[Meleagridis]

Random question: Does the starmetal sword absorb/sends to EoS the souls that it kills? This kind of reminds me of the Kingdom Hearts II scenario.

I think it's yes and yes.
The EoS is this particular brand of Hoofington starmetal.

I thought the wisps went into the metal in the sword. Stars work in mysterious ways, though, so this may have the same end effect (that is to say souls that go into Hoofington starmetal toys all go to the Eater).

[WavemasterRyx]

Just google "slow clap". First one that shows up.

Ah, thank you Robo, heh. Well I wasn't sure what it would be called in order to look it up - it has now been saved for future use. <3

Final list unless I get any last minute suggestions.

Seems like a good list, I'll be looking forward to seeing the results. And most of all, I hope you enjoy your re-read of the story.

Random
question: Does the starmetal sword absorb/sends to EoS the souls that
it kills? This kind of reminds me of the Kingdom Hearts II
scenario.

I think it's yes and yes.
The EoS is this particular brand of Hoofington starmetal.

I
thought the wisps went into the metal in the sword. Stars work in
mysterious ways, though, so this may have the same end effect (that is
to say souls that go into Hoofington starmetal toys all go to the
Eater).

My guess would be that the absorbed souls stay with the sword (perhaps strengthening its fraction of power in some way), rather than being transmitted to the Eater of Soul's main body. For all the shards of the Eater to still be connected as one entity just seems unlikely, to me at least.
If Somber decided to do that though, I wouldn't complain.

[Somber]

The sword attracts souls, but it can't destroy them. It can only consume a soul like its own. If the metal is destroyed then the souls stuck inside are free.

Also, thanks so much for the reviews. They really perk me up. :)

[RandomBlank]

My guess would be EoS is the Starmetal. Not limited by physical continuity, think hivemind without central entity, or a bulk of virus mass that together comprises sentience. So, the sword is a live part of EoS, like an organ. The souls go to the sword, but that means they go to EoS.

[NoodleNugget]

The sword attracts souls, but it can't destroy them. It can only consume a soul like its own. If the metal is destroyed then the souls stuck inside are free.

Also, thanks so much for the reviews. They really perk me up. :)

Yay! Happy Somber is happy!

Can't wait till the next chapter. hopefully there will be the suits of armor with the dead ponies inside like it was mentioned. I'm still expecting a mandatory "hey, who turned out the lights"

[Ametros]

Also, thanks so much for the reviews. They really perk me up. :)

One of these days I'm going to remember to record my thoughts whilst reading a chapter.. One of these days...

[WavemasterRyx]

The sword attracts souls, but it can't destroy them. It can only consume a soul like its own. If the metal is destroyed then the souls stuck inside are free.

Also, thanks so much for the reviews. They really perk me up. :)

Very interesting, I wonder just what that will end up meaning. I guess we'll find out eventually.

But mostly, YAY for perked up Somber! *hugs Somber happily*

[OneMoreDaySK]

So best bet of Project Horizons is that it's a moon drop. I'm guessing if everything else is screwed i.e. EC101 breaks like Trueblood feared, Hoofington would launch like a spaceship, crash into the moon, and try to pull the moon back to Equestria. Or I could be crazy.

[RandomBlank]

I have a different worry.
Hoofington would not crash, it would fly away. The space program brought a lot of moon rock. The deposit of starmetal (EOS) under the Hoof is immense. Together they'd make a truly fearsome propellant, although what would be left behind, down below, after a launch like this...

[Kippershy]

Why launch the hoof into space though? What benefit?

[SilentCarto]

The sword attracts souls, but it can't destroy them. It can only consume a soul like its own. If the metal is destroyed then the souls stuck inside are free.

Huh, okay... that explains a whole lot of my curiosity about the Necropolis, and why there are bits of soul drifting around intact there rather than being consumed by the Eater of Souls. I assume "like its own" means a star's soul, like the one that spawned Celestia and Luna, since that's the only thing we've explicitly seen the EoS consume.

Which raises the question of why it's collecting mortal souls, then. Maybe that's just a side effect of its presence, the way a planet attracts floating debris, but they obviously must help in some way since blood sacrifice was crucial to the Zebra attempt to raise the Eater of Souls. Perhaps it can consume a soul that's resonating with its own frequency. If so, twisting a soul to match its frequency would certainly represent corruption of the highest order. (And speaking of Nurse Candy...)

On the other hoof, from BJ's star dream:
This time, however, as ponies and zebras died, not all their tiny motes returned above. Many, a small fraction, but still so many, were snared in the spider’s web and whisked to the dark heart, there to scream the dark note. Waiting. Tempting another star to fall and be devoured so that the heart could be freed.

Perhaps the soul doesn't need to be alive to get corrupted...

So, is that corruption what makes someone become a Harbinger? Or does joining the religion begin the process? And is humming the EoS's tone the cause of corruption, or its symptom?

So, that tiny flake of metal BJ tested with the moon rock, that had sucked up someone's soul? All by itself? 'Cause that's impressive. After it was destroyed BJ described it as heading off in some specific direction, I think... I wonder if it's at all possible to determine who's soul that was from that fairly vague hint.

There's two main possibilities. The motes were heading west from their location in East Hoofington, so they were either heading for the EoS (or Necropolis) at the Core, or for the site of her death at the Star House.

I now wonder about all those memory motes in the cavern beneath Hoofington that BJ met the cyberdemon in. My original theory was something along the lines of, after star metal is destroyed, it's drawn toward the eater of souls and was somehow getting stuck in that cavern. I thought it might have been moonstone deposits or that they were just close enough to the eater at that point.

That still might be the case. If you imagine the EoS as a sort of 'gravity well' for souls, you can imagine the Necropolis as its accretion disk. Except that it can't eat them, so they just stay there, drifting close to its surface, and if you're standing in the Necropolis, the EoS is just a few feet underfoot... Hell, for that matter, the Necropolis might itself be the Zebras' star metal mine.

You know, I just realized that my mental image of the Necropolis is basically the planet Phaaze from Metroid Prime 3 -- complete with the drifting specks and creepy music.

[RandomBlank]

Why launch the hoof into space though? What benefit?

"I don't want to live on this planet any more".


This planet is FUBAR. It has no perspectives. Our last chance for survival is gone. Let's turn our best city into a spaceship and go, seek a better place to live out there.

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