Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[Katarn]

This is my headcannon voice of Dealer (Narrator's voice)

I'll be unimaginative and make my headcannon (BOOM!!) Dealer voiced by Elias Toufexis (aka Adam Jensen).

Dunno why, but I expected somethin like this from you.
But I think Dealer's voice should be like he's more than 50 y.o (in human terms) and/or smoked pack of cigarettes per day since childhood

[Ketchup]

The military Ponies who were in charge of Hoofington's defenses? Seriously, Project Horizons is supposed to be some super-secret big deal thing. As in, world-wide effecting big-deal. If nothing else, it's clear that Project Horizons is something that is to be activated, since in ch.45 Blackjack is prompted if she wants to activate it by Goldenblood's basement terminal. EC-1101 probably is able to deactivate Hoofington's defenses, but that's what EC-1101 does: Key to Equestria. Besides all that, deactivating Hoofington's defenses still leaves the problem of heading into the source of Enervation.

I don't think the Enervation was intentional. If it is stated as being artificial, I apologize.
If PH has some effect on all of Equestria, it could've had some effect on the SPP or Littlepip's comrades. My connection between EC and PH was that since the failure of EC to locate suitable candidates causes it to activate PH, it might be for just that. The manual override might have been some sort of failsafe, and the Ministry forces at the house weren't mentioned to have found the command terminal, which was found as the house was falling down over Blackjack's head.

[Guest]

How is everyones day?

[Guest]

How is everyones day?

Getting better all the time!

[Kippershy]

How is everyones day?

Been a tiring day at work, but a bit of fresh air coming into my place is keeping me awake and alert.
Writing newest chapter of my own story and almost finished with it, so I'm heavily brushing up on it, (hopefully) improving the quality quite a lot as I've added a further 600 words over about 2,200 in what was previously there.

(which makes me happy, as I've been feeling guilty in how long this chapter has taken to write.)


yourself?

[MrMagma]

How is everyones day?

I'm doing fine, Sir. How are you?

[Ketchup]

How is everyones day?

Still sick, but I think I'm finally recovering. Otherwise, I'm content.
How are you doing?

[Guest]

How is everyones day?

Still sick, but I think I'm finally recovering. Otherwise, I'm content.
How are you doing?

I'm fine, making sure site is working fine and everyones happy <3

[Guest]

How is everyones day?

Pretty good so far.

[Moodyman90]

Currently doing good, thanks for asking!

[RoboRed]

Theory 1
Project Horizon is a super weapon

There are roughly seventeen theories I've read about PH that all fall under this grouping. Project Horizons is a superweapon of some kind.

Evidence For:
We have four main reasons to think that PH is a superweapon. One Trueblood is terrified of it activating, he all but has a full freakout in the Arena after Blackjack tells him that EC-1101 is gone. If PH was in any way just a benign or helpful secret Project we should not expect Trueblood to react like that to the news it was going off (He knew that if EC-1101 was lost it auto triggered). Second we have the simple evidence that the majority of the other projects were all based around either winning the war or surviving it, granted that evidence applies both ways but I throw it in here because every single Project to date has been prime example of mad scientist thinking rather than rational scientific exploration. To go on a slight tangent what I mean by that, it's one thing to try to bring the dead back to life, it's quite another thing to start with your dead wife or a hulking brute made up of a dozen corpses stitched together rather than say... a bunny rabbit first. Sure it's not as impressive but if things go wrong... hey rabbits are easier to put down than your ex-wife or Frankenstein. Back on topic we have evidence in the form of the Moonstone which has been mentioned together before with Project Horizons at least twice by my memory. And the only thing we know about Moonstone is the fact that it can be used to create a bloody Anti-matter/Matter annihilation reaction between itself and any bits of the Eater you poke it with. That's something incredibly dangerous, sure it's not as powerful as a real AM/M reaction (Fun fact if what Blackjack tried in Chapter 44 had been real AM/M the reaction range would have been in the ten kiloton range, IE two thirds a Hiroshima and she was standing on the other side of the door from THAT). Last reason to think PH is a weapon is it's autofire mechanize, IE it automaticly goes off if everyone on EC-1101's list is dead, this implies that it's set to trigger if the entire government dies which implies a deadman switch of sorts. If so that's not something you generally set to make sunshine and rainbows, that something you set to say "If I'm going down I'm taking you with me!"


Evidence Against:
The main piece of evidence against PH being a superweapon is the existence of Project Redoubt, it's not Gardens of Equestria, Goldy put together both PH and the Gardens why duplicate his own work but then why make PH if Redoubt as it sounds like were some sort of super stables? Redoubt does not make sense of PH is the megaspell to drop the Moon directly onto the Eater of Souls for one giant bang and a purging of Hoofington. You could not do that and hope for an intact planet afterwords. And then there is the name itself, Project Horizons which does not fit a mega spell to end it all.

I did briefly have the thought cross my mind that Horizons was an endgame weapon of mass destruction, involving sending a massive amount of starmetal to the moon, making it go kersplode with enough force to wipe out all surface life on Equestria. But it's really far-fetched. And then there's all the "evidence against" reasons you listed.

Spoiler:

Your usage of images has made me lol. Sweetie Belle

Chapter Art comin' at ya.

awesomeness:

Okay, left to right:
1. Schoolfilly Blackjack! *man squee*
2. I don't give a damn what anyone says, those two look cute together. Also, "holy crap, an image where Psychoshy doesn't look like she's about to kill somepony!!!"
3. YEEAAAHHHHH
4. Oh, lol.
5. Dat face of embarassment.
6. Funny, but a little sad at the same time.

Great job as always, Mech.

careful, ahm' not i mah righ' mind...

This is new?

we get everything here from beaters to beamers to fucking bentleys and rolls royce... hell I have a picture of one of those lexus super cars, you know the kind that hold the commercial speed record? in other words they made only 500 of them and fucking five of them are being sold by westside lexus of houston...

That reminds me, I saw a very lovely Aston Martin DB9 when I was last in Houston...

Why do we not have a "facehoof" emote?!?!?

This is my headcannon voice of Dealer (Narrator's voice)

I'll be unimaginative and make my headcannon (BOOM!!) Dealer voiced by Elias Toufexis (aka Adam Jensen).

Dunno why, but I expected somethin like this from you.
But I think Dealer's voice should be like he's more than 50 y.o (in human terms) and/or smoked pack of cigarettes per day since childhood

Mech's voice is the voice of the dealer.

OBLIGATORY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMfyh7FCVQ

How is everyones day?

Well, the laying of carpeting got postponed to next week, my caffeine-deprivation headache is going away, I have food, the beta weekend of Guild Wars 2 is going on...I'd say I'm doing pretty alright.

[Derpmind]

Heh, I actually only listen to the Beatles occasionally, but this is still my favorite song from them. Followed by Hey Jude, of course.

Why do we not have a "facehoof" emote?!?!?

Forget an emote, I have yet to find a single picture of Ditzy Doo facehoofing anywhere. It's hurts. :(

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

This is my headcannon voice of Dealer (Narrator's voice)

I'll be unimaginative and make my headcannon (BOOM!!) Dealer voiced by Elias Toufexis (aka Adam Jensen).

Dunno why, but I expected somethin like this from you.
But I think Dealer's voice should be like he's more than 50 y.o (in human terms) and/or smoked pack of cigarettes per day since childhood

Mech's voice is the voice of the dealer.

I second this

[Stringtheory]

OBLIGATORY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMfyh7FCVQ

okay, that's pure distilled awesome, now if only he'd do a full chapter, let alone the whole story

[RoboRed]

Omg...I was looking at Mech's picture and I just had a naughty thought.

If you crop off the top row of pics, and then remove Psychoshy from the picture...

...then Stygius is totally checking out Schoolfilly Blackjack's ass.

See?:

pardon me for editing your stuff, mech...:

[Snipehamster]

Omg...I was looking at Mech's picture and I just had a naughty thought.

If you crop off the top row of pics, and then remove Psychoshy from the picture...

...then Stygius is totally checking out Schoolfilly Blackjack's ass.

See?:

pardon me for editing your stuff, mech...:

Hah! Well spotted. All we need now is a caption and a set of sunglasses for Styg.

[Ketchup]

Omg...I was looking at Mech's picture and I just had a naughty thought.

If you crop off the top row of pics, and then remove Psychoshy from the picture...

...then Stygius is totally checking out Schoolfilly Blackjack's ass.

See?:

pardon me for editing your stuff, mech...:

He's looking at Psycho in the original picture, but yes, it looks like it if you remove her.

[RoboRed]

He's looking at Psycho in the original picture, but yes, it looks like it if you remove her.

We could be mean and just say that he was ignoring Psycho the entire time. Sweetie Belle

[Ketchup]

He's looking at Psycho in the original picture, but yes, it looks like it if you remove her.

We could be mean and just say that he was ignoring Psycho the entire time. Sweetie Belle

Heh heh.

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

How is everyones day?

You asked for it.
Started at 9am today just for getting ready for work and getting other affairs in order.made fucking salad and shit for 225 people working on another salad for 57 other people and winging it on a warm bacon dressing got a fruit display for a hundred people to set up for tomorrow and I'm making omelets for people from 10am to 2pm and waffles all to order. This is how its been and where it is going. Lunch is crappy... also still unsure about job direction simply because of lack of advancement and then you factor in my own self doubt on my own functions as a leading figure and my poor organization skills. Then I think I am in the shortcoming ...oh I'm on a depressive decline no wonder this upping only lasted a couple of days any way back to short comings lost potential..no not quite more like getting into
a get shit done mindset problem is even trying to force things into it
..unngh good news is shit is getting done.

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[Guest]

How is everyones day?

You asked for it.
Started at 9am today just for getting ready for work and getting other affairs in order.made fucking salad and shit for 225 people working on another salad for 57 other people and winging it on a warm bacon dressing got a fruit display for a hundred people to set up for tomorrow and I'm making omelets for people from 10am to 2pm and waffles all to order. This is how its been and where it is going. Lunch is crappy... also still unsure about job direction simply because of lack of advancement and then you factor in my own self doubt on my own functions as a leading figure and my poor organization skills. Then I think I am in the shortcoming ...oh I'm on a depressive decline no wonder this upping only lasted a couple of days any way back to short comings lost potential..no not quite more like getting into
a get shit done mindset problem is even trying to force things into it
..unngh good news is shit is getting done.

©_®

Is bad i read all that xD

[WavemasterRyx]

RYX
I KNOW YOU'LL SEE THIS
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEE
(@ your height)

*fights off a fit of giggling* Sorry, sorry. I'm around 6'4"-6'5" (193-195cm) and 323lbs (146.5kg).
So yes, I'm immense.

How is everyones day?

Half cup ration of Mt. Dew per day sucks... Anyways... I'm off to a rough start, as usual, but getting ready to work on some more Boo.

[Kippershy]

RYX
I KNOW YOU'LL SEE THIS
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEE
(@ your height)

*fights off a fit of giggling* Sorry, sorry. I'm around 6'4"-6'5" (193-195cm) and 323lbs (146.5kg).
So yes, I'm immense.

How is everyones day?

Half cup ration of Mt. Dew per day sucks... Anyways... I'm off to a rough start, as usual, but getting ready to work on some more Boo.

You sound like my boss then.
He's about your height and... I'm not sure on weight, I think a little less then that. anyway, you sound cuddly. I could totally go for that - especially right now after having spent the last six hours straight working on my story - I only added 3,000 words which for that time span sucks - but I did go through the entire thing combing it for grammar and bolstering its descriptions, rewriting parts for higher quality conversation, pondering on how to write this and that, and so on.

then once I was done writing all the new content (an extra 1,500 - 2,000 words from scratch) I went over that again and increased its quality, so yeah.. lots of work done at least!


/dies from exhaustion


(usually I'm not so tired... but then usually I get 8 hours sleep a night rather then 5, lol)

[WavemasterRyx]

RYX
I KNOW YOU'LL SEE THIS
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEE
(@ your height)

*fights off a fit of giggling* Sorry, sorry. I'm around 6'4"-6'5" (193-195cm) and 323lbs (146.5kg).
So yes, I'm immense.

You sound like my boss then.
He's about your height and... I'm not sure on weight, I think a little less then that. anyway, you sound cuddly. I could totally go for that - especially right now after having spent the last six hours straight working on my story - I only added 3,000 words which for that time span sucks

Heh, one of the only advantages of being super fat, I am cuddly, extremely cuddly.
*super-cuddle-hugs Kipper*
Sounds like really great progress to me, best I've ever gotten was taking a full day to write up around 2100, usually it took me around a week to finish a 1200-2000 word segment. Just keep trying your best, Kipper, and get some rest when you can.

[Guest]

Good to hear mostly everyone's fine, can i be of assistance to anyone?

[MrMagma]

Good to hear mostly everyone's fine, can i be of assistance to anyone?

Nope, but thank you for asking ^.^. Someone else may need help with something or other though.

[O. Hinds]

Good to hear mostly everyone's fine, can i be of assistance to anyone?

I don't suppose that you know how to reinstall "vcrun2005 and vcrun2008 via Winetricks"? If not, I don't believe that I need your assistance for anything, but thank you for asking.

[Guest]

Good to hear mostly everyone's fine, can i be of assistance to anyone?

I don't suppose that you know how to reinstall "vcrun2005 and vcrun2008 via Winetricks"? If not, I don't believe that I need your assistance for anything, but thank you for asking.

I'm sorry I do not know, and your welcome <3

[Cptadder]

Looks like my theory on the last page got swept over. Oh well.

Hoofington's defenses weren't exactly above-top-secret. It was kinda extremely public, what with the lasers and all that still works 'protecting' the core two hundred years after the apocalypse.

Yes, but was there a public way to turn them off?

The military Ponies who were in charge of Hoofington's defenses? Seriously, Project Horizons is supposed to be some super-secret big deal thing. As in, world-wide effecting big-deal. If nothing else, it's clear that Project Horizons is something that is to be activated, since in ch.45 Blackjack is prompted if she wants to activate it by Goldenblood's basement terminal. EC-1101 probably is able to deactivate Hoofington's defenses, but that's what EC-1101 does: Key to Equestria. Besides all that, deactivating Hoofington's defenses still leaves the problem of heading into the source of Enervation.

There is an easy way to turn off Hoffington's defenses. The consoles in question controlling the the defenses are all probably still logged with the corpses of the operators still at their stations since two hundred years ago when the AM/M generator running off of the Eater got kicked out the enervation fields also kicked in and murdered the Hoofington defenders at their posts. The problem with turning the defenses off is the simple fact they are going to be in a central located underground command and control bunker. Such a location will have both active and passive defenses as well as decoy bunkers nearby to confuse a Zebra infiltration squad trying to blow the bunker in preparation for another invasion attempt The location will probably be underground between the central towers in the red line marked military area behind a few dozen blast doors in a maze of identical coordinators which suddenly open up to reveal a big classic control room full of beeping monitors and giant displays... oh and aside from about ten kilometers of automated defenses and having to burn through a dozen foot thick steel blast doors the entire area is going to be neck deep in the biggest possible enervation field. It's not like Horse is going to have the control room set anywhere but directly over the Eater's crater... Imagine having the control room a dozen meters east of the real center of eldritch evil in Hoofington? Who could bear the shame of that architectural goof of having your Hellmouth entrance slightly to the side of the yawning chasm of unmaking? Sweetie Bot would not approve of having the CIC anywhere but directly over the horror from the dark spaces between galaxies.

I did briefly have the thought cross my mind that Horizons was an endgame weapon of mass destruction, involving sending a massive amount of starmetal to the moon, making it go kersplode with enough force to wipe out all surface life on Equestria. But it's really far-fetched. And then there's all the "evidence against" reasons you listed.

I'm of the opinion that it's the other way, Horizons is a moon based automated facility with a Moonstone tipped missile designed to tunnel into the Hoofington crater and keplode the Eater directly. Remember Hoofington was designed as a trap, lots of juicy targets for the Zebra's to hit but so well defended (deceptively well considering the amount of tunnel work) that every attack is doomed to failure. What better failsafe then taking advantage of the presences of the Eater and it's aversion to Moonstone then by dropping a rocket on it's burial location to get a sixty megaton soul nuke as the Eater releases energies and souls as the moonstone is slammed into it at twelve kilometers per second. Lets just hope they calculated everything correctly as the last thing Blackjack needs to deal with is a Resonance cascade on top of a sixty megaton explosion.

How is everyones day?

*snip the Admirals day
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Is bad i read all that xD

Now it's not bad, that feeling you have now? The Germans call it schadenfreude.
My day by contrast was... uneventful, but I've hard worse... but then lets not get into worst day's ever contests as I know I can win that one unless you story ends with the loss of a limb or being gelded.

[Derpmind]

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