Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[WavemasterRyx]

Please don't, Somber. Please. *hugs*

[NoodleNugget]

Politics can be incredibly frustrating but be patient. I doubt this is the end of things.
And please don't do that Somber.
please don't or... or I'll just have to announce your name at the beginning of my upkeep and take the bullet instead.

[Aonee]

This thread needs more physcoshy.:

[RoboRed]

This thread needs more physcoshy.:

That...is SO badass... Sweetie Belle

[Katarn]

[Somber]

This thread needs more physcoshy.:

That...is SO badass...

Suhweet! That needs to be submitted to the drawfriends!!!

[Somber]

I have raged in the IRC, and the Kkat came and made it all better. Sorry for scaring everypony.

[Kippershy]

That storyline reminds me a little of Fable 3's and something else I can't identify, which is bugging the crap out of me. It looks solid, though Fantasy isn't really my thing. Which era of technological development would it be set in?

The technology is early Renaissance / roman. Steam is starting to make itself known. Chemistry exists as 'alchemy' and gunpowder and cannons are becoming increasingly common. Magic does exist though. Low magic is one step above David Copperfield, and comprises tricks, illusions, and simple transformations. High Magic, however, is the equivalent of fantasy WMD, tapping into potent powers of the universe. The Immaculate Order controls one form of the WMD and enjoys a disproportionate amount of political clout because of it. They've only used it twice to smite a country and even two hundred years later no one wants to be the third. Seriously. Tirel is still on fire. The only other group are the Wyches, female spellcasters of the far north. Needless to say, the two groups loathe each other with a passion and the immaculate order does all it can to keep a Wych off the throne. Last thing they want is any crown that can slip out from under their thumb. The order and Wyches have a MAD pact going, but they're both determined to destroy each other. They once co-ruled the world before one side betrayed the other.

There are other races, but humanity is by far the most predominate. Elves are nearly extinct as they are too spread out and immortal to bother reproducing. They believe themselves the peak of civilization, and use all that time to get drunk, laid, and sit on their asses. Dwarves are insular, but every community worth its salt has a Dwarven enclave. They're excellent at getting and loaning money, but every now and then humans will cry 'Dwarven Conspiracy' and turn on them. Dwarves just run for their lives, wait a human generation, get invited back, sweep out the ashes, and raise interest rates. And the cycle continues. Faekind are everything from Goblins to Ogres to nymphs and generally are persecuted and marginalized. Some are borderline enslaved. None have a country of their own as the faerie are beyond this world and regard it as something like a TV show. We're not 'real' to them. So they love our stories and drama but lack any real appreciation or care for it.

Yeah, been thinking about it a long time. But I won't put words down till Horizons is finished. I also have a sci-fi fic in mind too... that one might be shorter.

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I was going to scream at you, DON'T YOU DARE START WRITING THAT BEFORE HORIZONS IS FINISHED, and then I saw.

Yeah,
been thinking about it a long time. But I won't put words down till
Horizons is finished.

I love you <3

Anyway, back to seriousness;
sounds fucking awesome - normally I'm not into fantasy BUUUUUUT the way you put it makes me want it.
So yes, when you do start it, let me know, okay? :)
I also have a friend who would more then likely be interested to read, as he's a writer himself.
(though he has nothing on myself, let alone you. his use of language is good but his characters... they lack spirit, they're too cold and his writing is too cold. doesn't invite the readers in for a good time).

[WavemasterRyx]

Allow me to contribute to bringing some cheer back to the thread:
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/24528224962

I have raged in the IRC, and the Kkat came and made it all better. Sorry for scaring everypony.

I'm glad you're feeling better sir. *hugs again*
I'll sleep better now.

[This thread needs more physcoshy.]

Fore-Trekker's art is amazing, but that Psychoshy especially so.

[Mobius04]

I can say this chapter had one the best examples of literature I have ever had the privilege to read. Thank you to Hinds, Bronode, Snipehamster and Somber for sharing it with me.

Psalms section of the chapter had the most diverse, touching and personal gamut of emotions I've seen put to words. In a short period of time we see hope, ferocity, violence, confidence, understanding, compassion, empathy and complete helplessness. There is a very personal connection Psalm has with the people she meets. The way she wishes the best for them and wants nothing more than to continue living their lives. With each encounter she plays russian roullette with her mission to spare who ever she can. The conflict is real because pain is played so closely to the consequence of each action. As a human being, I'm wired to feel empowered through action and violence, but Plasms actions have a poignant and unmistakable regret. Because the adrenaline thrill isn't there, her regret is at center stage with no distractions. It hurts. As a human being, I can't ignore other people's pain in the best of times. I don't stand much of a chance when it's this personal.

The emotions of each moment carry into each other with the mastery Somber has earned over 45 chapters of dedication and practice. This is best exemplified from from Pinkie's helpless "I don't want to burn" to the second sun over Manehatten. The helplessness of the situation would demand that she escape in some small way. Psalm chooses to see the people around her and take it in nstead of ignoring one iota. To hurt is to be human. Here I can't place the barriers of "I'm just the audience" because Psalm does not escape behind "I'm just a sniper." Because she chooses to accept the moment in all of its pain, so must I. That honesty makes it for one of the most harrowing, and most human moments in literature. Thank you.

[O. Hinds]

I have raged in the IRC, and the Kkat came and made it all better. Sorry for scaring everypony.

I'm glad that you're okay.

Still upset about the politics, but... well, American politics is usually to me either "I guess that'll do" or "URRRGH, WHY ARE PEOPLE SO STUPID?!"

[Kippershy]

@SilentCarto & Kipper
Man... you know, it's hard enough for me to post parody knowing I'm screwing up the characters, possibly annoying Somber and others in the process. Now I have to do the same thing for real people? Please don't get mad at me for this -_-

Also: couldn't find relevant quotes to replace my meh, so I didn't.

Spoiler:

OHGOD I LOVE YOU

HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OHGOD, YES. XD THAT IS AMAZING.

[Jeremyrush]

Good lord. I leave for a day and I don't even know where the discussion is right now. Something about SomberRaeg and a fucking bad ass Psychoshy drawing.

You people move waaaaay too fast.

[Kippershy]

Somber - as always, I'm here for you if you need to talk to someone.

As for everything else, lost track of what I was gonna say.

[RandomBlank]

Yeah, well, I just read how Walker got reelected after Republicans spent eight times what democrats spent. Welcome to America, Plutocracy. I want to eat a fucking bullet right now so bad it hurts.

Now that's one stupid idea.
How are YOU responsible for this shit so that you'd want to kill *yourself*? Kill the guilty, not the victim.

[Sindri]

Yeah, well, I just read how Walker got reelected after Republicans spent eight times what democrats spent. Welcome to America, Plutocracy. I want to eat a fucking bullet right now so bad it hurts.

I'm sorry. Would it make you feel better if I went out and removed some politicians? I've got tools right here, and as a general rule if you're not an idiot and think about it first you can get to anyone other than the president or some governors without much trouble...

This thread needs more physcoshy.:

That...is SO badass...

Suhweet! That needs to be submitted to the drawfriends!!!

Aaand Psychoshy is now best pony.

This is much better. See, there are plenty of good role models around here, like all the artists, and Kkat. People who solve problems without anyone needing to get nailed to anything. Listen to them, not me.

[Katarn]

Look what I have found:

[Kippershy]

Look what I have found:

A very, very dirty laugh came out of my mouth the second I saw this.
That is awesome.

[Kippershy]

This is much better. See, there are plenty of good role models around here, like all the artists, and Kkat. People who solve problems without anyone needing to get nailed to anything. Listen to them, not me.

I don't know if it was intentional, but all I can think of is 33 when I saw this.

33.

[Regolit]

True, Psychoshy the best pony now, who would have thought. I just hope she and Stygy will stay away from the BJ. ))

[SilentCarto]

Yeah... I was agreeing with you... I thought...

Oops! My bad. I guess I don't see how the 'absence of evidence' line relates to this discussion, then.

Good lord. I leave for a day and I don't even know where the discussion is right now. Something about SomberRaeg and a fucking bad ass Psychoshy drawing.

You people move waaaaay too fast.

And you call yourself "Jeremy Rush".

[Guest]

I think my internet company may be intentionally turning off the internet between 3-5 AM or something. Ridiculous. That is prime commenting time right there! Ah, well, so much for not being nocturnal.

Anyway.

@Ryx, Sindri, and Kipper (role model stuff)
You guys rock, why wouldn't I want to be like you? :) Not, y'know, actually BE you, because that'd be weird and confuse me due to existentialism and stuff (the former of which I have at best a basic understanding of, due to having learned about it solely in French), but... You all have a fantastic qualities that I would fain do better at exhibiting. And it's inspiring when they pop up.

@silentcarto (victorious snack cake)
YES.

@Somber (fantasy story, Wisconsin, grimdark)
Mm, interesting! Sounds like my kind of fantasy story, really; especially since it'd have a brilliant writer at the helm. At any rate, I don't know if fantasy's in vogue at the moment (I feel like HBO's Game of Thrones didn't supercharge the market as much as it might have), but it definitely sounds like a book I'd like to read. Or a series of books, possibly.

And WI, well... I didn't vote for him, I'll tell you that much. I'll also say that it's disgraceful that Walker's anti-union stance is being tolerated in what's practically the damn birthplace of the labor movement. Setting politics aside, that's just... wrong. It's our goddamn heritage he's messing with. Aesthetically, I hate it. (In the interest of honesty, I will admit that, politically... I still hate it) His stance on more stereotypically "social" issues is similarly loathsome.

Speaking as someone who enjoys horror, I may be a little biased, but I've never found the way you do dark to be past tasteful. And I don't think your writing has any particular predilection towards the darker stuff, either; your handling of Pinkie's death is a perfect example of this.

Anyway, glad to hear you're not feeling as down about the stupid recall. I'm right there with you on this one, that's for damn sure.

@swicked (muh card!)
Ha! Those quotes are great! :) Thanks for making these, by the way; I said it before and I'll say it again: they're really funny!

@Aonee (Psychoshy)
Woah. Holy wow, that's... many things. All of them awesome.

[CamoBadger]

This thread needs more physcoshy.:

That is badass as hell...

And reminds me of that game...um...In...INFAMOUS! That's what it reminds me of!

[Katarn]

Don't have console...didn't play. Windows 8 will come out soon with xbox 360 emul. Try play nice games.

[Guest]

Allow me to contribute to bringing some cheer back to the thread:
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/24528224962

Now that Boo has become a seapony no one can escape her adorableness! The plan for Boo to take over the world had begun. All hail princess of snack cake!

As always another amazing picture Wave!

[CamoBadger]

Allow me to contribute to bringing some cheer back to the thread:
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/24528224962

HNNNNNNNNG

[RoboRed]

Allow me to contribute to bringing some cheer back to the thread:
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/24528224962

Shoo-be-doo Boo!

[Katarn]

Allow me to contribute to bringing some cheer back to the thread:
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/24528224962

This post causes diabetes..

[Somber]

Allow me to contribute to bringing some cheer back to the thread:
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/24528224962

Shoo-be-doo Boo!

Ryx does best seaponies... :)

[Quotidian]

@Somber:

Well, I probably should have posted this or something like it earlier, because you seem to be feeling better, but hey, it can't hurt, right? First off, I'm super glad Kkat helped. I've got no idea what she said, so hopefully it wasn't this:

When I saw your post about Wisconsin, I was surprised at how much your thoughts on it mirrored my own. Anger, fear, doubt, sorrow. "Like eating a bullet", you said, and fuck if I wasn't right there with you, ready for a delicious 9mm sandwich. I still kind of feel that way right now, and I'm a little perplexed as to how political events in another state can disregulate my mood so damn much.

(Of course, my solution to being angry and scared was to go get shitfaced with some like-minded friends. Not the best solution. Now I'm angry, frustrated, and hung over.)

But you know what? I'm not going to give up. Know why? The same reason so many people have given you donations. The world is a pretty shitty place, and even though it does have good people in it, that can be hard to see most of the time. But if you can't see anyone or anything good, then you have to BE that good. Be one of those good people.

I know, that sounds like optimistic, self-help bullshit, but I think it's true. Maybe it's because I'm in a place that's a little safer and a little better than where you're at. Maybe I just have a stubborn ember of hope that refuses to be ground out. Maybe you've got it right and I'm just too stupid to know when to quit. (This last one seems pretty likely. I don't think I've ever talked with someone quite as sharp as you before. Seriously.) I don't know.

I do know that other people frustrate the hell out of me sometimes. Republicans. Fundies. Small minded assholes. Bigots. Racists. Investment bankers. People who voted for Scott Walker. Anyone who drives a fucking Hummer too slowly in the leftmost lane.

But they're not everyone.

Here's the thing: the lily white, middle aged politicians with their immaculately coiffed hair and perfectly straight white teeth and 2.4 kids and home with a white picket fence? They're not the people that make my life worth living.

It's us.

The freaks. The geeks. The queers and weirdos and damaged goods. It's guys who like to watch My Little Pony and people who want to write post-apocalyptic action sci-fi cosmic horror queer romance, and stupid assholes who move boxes for a living and spout syrupy bullshit on the internet, and lesbian furry fetish artists who write crossover fanfic, and depressed authors who live with their moms and maybe aren't so sure about their gender identity.

It's you and Hinds and Bronode and Sindri and Kim and Rum and Ryx and Kkat and all of us broken, beautiful human beings. We build our own worlds. Our own societies. Our own support networks. I don't know if that's enough for you, or me, or for anyone. But it's all we've got, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to keep trying.

I hope you will too. Because, and I know I've said this before, the world is a brighter place with you in it.

(*hugs* There. I'm done being sappy. Chapter 45 was great, and I'll get to a more thoughtful review when my brain isn't trying to jump out of my head and back into a bottle of Ska IPA.)

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