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Post by Stringtheory Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:31 am

Hey Harm, have you play E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy? It's fucking amazing, if very confusing since the developers decided to do the english translation using Google Translate, so you should be able to actually understand the text since it's originally French. Applebloom

swicked wrote:Completely separate topic: anyone doing anything for valentines day?
Me and my spouse didn't remember it and made plans to visit family that day.
Nope, first I'd have to find the courage to actually flirt with someone.
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Post by Stringtheory Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:01 pm

swicked wrote:...do you have a crush? Or is this a more general insecurity?
Really just general insecurity. Doesn't help that I spent most of my childhood not being able to speak fluently for more than a sentence, so my self-confidence for speaking and in general is pretty shot.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:19 pm

@ST: never heard of it, no. What's the gameplay about?
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Post by Stringtheory Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:38 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:@ST: never heard of it, no. What's the gameplay about?
Gameplay wise, it's an FPS/RPG, I'd say it takes many cues from the original Deus Ex, you have a energy bar which you can use for clones, cloaking, super jumping, sprinting etc. You spend money you get from enemies to upgrade both yourself and get more weapons and powers. But the main draw is that when you try to hack a door the door will try to HACK YOU BACK.
Setting/thematically it's Deus Ex + 40k + Blade Runner, maybe you'll be able to understand the story since you're French.
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:38 pm

@Nostalgia
Right there with you on the goddamn memes. Not to mention I'm unsure what was so great about the '90s. The '90s saw the invention of "mallcore"/"nu" metal, which was arguably much worse than hair metal. I will say that the decade had a better overall aesthetic than the '00s, I guess. Not a fan of the... iPod glossy minimalist stuff.

Last wrote:@OAC Re: Privilege

Since you brough it up I took a small amount of time to look into it and came across a feminist wiki page. Before I talk about what I found I have no idea if this is a good source and I'll of course listen to what you think it's supposed to be or what it is supposed to be.

What I found was a racist/sexist wiki. Through out the page it continued to bring up only white males (I guess I'm to assume they are the only ones with this privilege) and then went on to imply that even if a white male were to accidentally have their penis mutilated through circumcision and then live the rest of their life as a homeless person that this fictional (Though to be honest this probably happened to someone. There's a shit ton of us.) male would still have privilege.

At it's core privilege seems to want to reduce anyone's accomplishments or failures down to the color of their skin or other aspects of their birth they have no control over.

That's the conclusion I came to on this page. Like I said maybe this page is simply a bad source and didn't explain what privilege it supposed to mean in a feminist sense properly.
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:03 pm

@swicked
That's definitely one of 'em. Not just not experiencing the thing, but not having to stress about experiencing it - big part of the theory is awareness. And meta-awareness, I guess - awareness of not being as aware.

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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:48 pm

SCIENCE!, motherfuckers!
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Post by Frost Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:23 pm

A big part of privilege is race, too--people look at the fact that most of the upper class are white and more of the lower class are minorities and immediately think that the system is inherently and ruthlessly trying to keep minorities down and that anyone white, no matter their actual economic standing, are 'privileged' and are automatically prone to be more wealthy. This more-than-likely ties into the increasingly-common victim complex among the "SJW"s and their opponents alike, blissfully ignorant of the fact that an inequality of wealth and the subsequent passing on of that wealth to one's inheritors (for generations hence) is an inherent part of any society or economic system--there were people in Soviet Russia who had palaces.
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:12 pm

@swicked
It's sort of Immortal-style corpsepaint (because Abbath is adorable), but I've been thinking of switching it up to something more like a kawaii-lookin' black metal thingamabob. Hard to find something sufficiently cute, or a good base to work with.

BTW, new stuff got added to that Star Wars bundle, so anyone who bought it should check and see.

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Post by Valikdu Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:50 pm

swicked wrote:How long until people shut up about the 90s?
[Local perspective]
We usually talk about certain things that are from the 90's, not the time period itself. Cause, well, it was the time when everything went to shit, and kept on going to shit until the country had defaulted.
Well, except for the people who are members of NGOs (or like listening to those) and like to bullshit about how the 90s were full of awesome democracy and crap.


Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:It's sort of Immortal-style corpsepaint (because Abbath is adorable), but I've been thinking of switching it up to something more like a kawaii-lookin' black metal thingamabob. Hard to find something sufficiently cute, or a good base to work with.
...but why does she have a knife through her neck?
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:07 pm

@Valikdu
It's actually a scooter's handlebars that're behind her. Can't blame me for that one, that's on the original artist. :P

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Post by O. Hinds Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:11 pm

Harmony wrote:SCIENCE!, motherfuckers!
Wow. Thanks for posting this.

On another note, more F-35 joy.
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Post by Frost Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:37 pm

O. Hinds wrote:On another note, more F-35 joy.
You want to talk military joy?

Earlier today, a company of Rakkasans (one of the more hardcore brigades from the already-hardcore 101st Airborne) was moving to an airbase to head back home after a rotation in- theater. As per the Chair Force's rules, the buses were emptied out and searched while the men waited nearby. At this time, allegedly, mean things were said to one of the female airmen supervising the soldiers. 

And so there they've been, for the past nine hours, with no meals and under armed guard by airmen while every single Rakkasan is interviewed so they can determine who said such mean things. 

And people wonder why no one likes the fucking Chair Force.
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Post by O. Hinds Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:05 pm

I can only speak as an outsider, of course, but it does seem a bit unnecessary to have it as a separate branch.
No offense meant, Harmony.
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Post by Frost Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:46 pm

If you wanna cut unnecessary branches, start with the Marines--nowadays, they just do the same shit as the Army; just about thirty times fucking worse. For instance, our procedure for taking contact while dismounted would be to immediately return fire, take cover, and get the squad coordinated to gain fire superiority and either outflank and shoot down the enemy or just use the explosives, ordinance and fire support we have to take them out. The Marines' procedure is to run towards the firing enemy and hopefully maybe not die. All their famed sixteen-week boot camp (plus however long their Infantry school training is; as opposed to 14 weeks total training for Army Infantry) accomplishes is to simply beat out any independent thought or common goddamn sense. They specifically seek out the dumbest, most brainwashed people to promote and make leaders.

Then, once you're done getting rid of them, then you just stick the Air Force into the Navy, because the Navy's actually not retarded from what I and others have dealt with them.
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Post by Frost Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:49 pm

In semi-related news, US wants to make its fling with ISIS official
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Post by Stringtheory Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:57 pm

@Frost, how accurate is this song after 50+ years?
It makes a fellow proud to be a soldier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0L_rD7CCe4
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:08 pm

Frost wrote:
Actually....:

KLK spoiler though personally I think it's minor:

actual spoiler so I can ask someone who has watched the series if i'm right and my memory isn't just fuzzy:

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:15 pm

Stringtheory wrote: Don't worry in 5-10 years society's going to be nostalgic for the '00s...   Applejacks

If you play WoW you can already see this occuring. People are nostalgic for vanilla WoW and beg for servers to be made of it despite the pain in the ass it was.

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Post by Frost Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:16 pm

@String Let's see; the 'patriot', the 'former' criminal, the "boot", the idiot all doing menial work details under the supervision of a cherry LT and a super-hooah CPT between "meals"? All that's missing is the Sergeant Major, and I can't blame mr. Lehrer for not making a verse on them, as quantifying the Sergeant Major in normal human terms is a.....daunting task.
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:58 am

Frost wrote:@String Let's see; the 'patriot', the 'former' criminal, the "boot", the idiot all doing menial work details under the supervision of a cherry LT and a super-hooah CPT between "meals"? All that's missing is the Sergeant Major, and I can't blame mr. Lehrer for not making a verse on them, as quantifying the Sergeant Major in normal human terms is a.....daunting task.
So what lines would you update to modernize it?
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Post by Frost Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:24 am

"Ol' Nick's kids are all delinquents,
And he really hates his wife.
That's why they put a diamond
Between his rockers and his stripes."
--an ode to the First Sergeant who takes his bitterness and self-loathing out on his company

"Michael got a gold oak leaf;
He's been in his office ever since.
No one has the heart to tell him,
No one's missed him once."
--Ballad of the Staff Major

"Zach always wanted to be a cowboy, 
And ride a horse of steel. 
He talked to that old recruiter,
And Cav sounded like a sweet deal. 
But he realized, the very first day,
That it was all rather gay.
His whole damn branch had no use; 
his 'hooah' sergeants really suck.
He wisely decided to pass the buck,
And trade his Stetson for a noose."
--Fuck the Cav
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:29 am

Frost wrote:
"Zach always wanted to be a cowboy, 
And ride a horse of steel. 
He talked to that old recruiter,
And Cav sounded like a sweet deal. 
But he realized, the very first day,
That it was all rather gay.
His whole damn branch had no use; 
his 'hooah' sergeants really suck.
He wisely decided to pass the buck,
And trade his Stetson for a noose."
--Fuck the Cav
Feeling bitter Frost?
(You are in Cav, right?)
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Post by Frost Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:02 am

Yeaaaaahno. I may bitch about the Infantry, but at least we're a real job. Cav doesn't do shit and has no purpose anywhere. They're also stupidly POG-ish about everything and are unilaterally assholes to lower ranks and anyone not Cav
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:07 am

O. Hinds wrote:I can only speak as an outsider, of course, but it does seem a bit unnecessary to have it as a separate branch.
No offense meant, Harmony.
I'm one of those who advocate for the Navy and the Air Force to be fused around here, so, you know...
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:36 am

Ah, good. :)

Though I am a bit curious: why fuse it with the Navy rather than the Army?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:24 am

Specialist culture; culture of dealing with "fluid spaces"; culture of dealing with a fleet of very high value, high maintenance vehicles and weapon systems; and last but not least we are closer culturally to the Aéronavale than to the Land Army Light Aviation corp (the former sharing the Rafale with us while the later deals almost exclusively with helicopters).
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:33 am

Ah, that makes sense.
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:02 am

Frost wrote:Yeaaaaahno. I may bitch about the Infantry, but at least we're a real job. Cav doesn't do shit and has no purpose anywhere. They're also stupidly POG-ish about everything and are unilaterally assholes to lower ranks and anyone not Cav
Huh, sorry about that then, guess working with Bradleys is not the same thing as being Cav.

@Harm, have you checked out E.Y.E. yet? If you don't feel like dropping the $10 for it I'd gladly buy it for you since I want to know if it makes more sense in French. Applebloom
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Post by Katarn Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:09 am

I'm not sure E.Y.E makes sense at all, tbh. Or, at very least, I couldn't find any. Also..maps 'for leveling' ruined a mood, a little bit.
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