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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Guest Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:02 am
I agree with Swicked. Without a GM creating a plot and pushing it forward, after the introduction of the characters, I'd bet it would devolve pretty quickly into the patients bumbling around.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Katarn Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:26 am
@Last
Maybe take example of our RP Season 1? We did good w/o GM.
Maybe take example of our RP Season 1? We did good w/o GM.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Guest Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:51 am
No, we had multiple GMs. Moody was a GM, Scyto was a GM, Jacky was a GM, you were a GM and Magma was a GM. We had multiple GMs they each took over a small part of the game. Scyto did it more than most. It was only the very begining that there was no GM.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Scienza Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:46 am
@AnimuAsylum
I'm in.
I'm in.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Vinylshadow Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:21 am
Season 1: Meet the Patients
Where every patient is brought in, given a room, diagnosed and eventually introduced to the others.
Maybe on the way to the diagnosis room, we can have people getting glimpses of other patients in their rooms, waiting for their turn.
Who's the Warden in charge of keeping an eye on us though?
Are we humans, ponies, or whatever we want to be?
And yes, I am interested in joining in. I'm not going to be a regular, since I plan on spending most of my time in isolation, scrawling random ideas on the walls that may or may not be ideas for plot progression.
Where every patient is brought in, given a room, diagnosed and eventually introduced to the others.
Maybe on the way to the diagnosis room, we can have people getting glimpses of other patients in their rooms, waiting for their turn.
Who's the Warden in charge of keeping an eye on us though?
Are we humans, ponies, or whatever we want to be?
And yes, I am interested in joining in. I'm not going to be a regular, since I plan on spending most of my time in isolation, scrawling random ideas on the walls that may or may not be ideas for plot progression.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Frost Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:10 pm
You seem to think we want you to join.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Kattlarv Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:11 pm
My random "spoutings" tends to be me imitating my pet gecko, or making quotes and noises from games or movies :PTytan wrote:@Katt, I was being nice. Aspergers is an acute form of autism.
I do however like the idea that the 'rival' female lead has trouble with spouting random obscenities.
And make what a thing?
And was my explanation of the PH revision sufficient?
@Scie: (Try using spoilers for longer replies, saves those not interested. And erf, became longer than intended.)
- Spoiler:
- It's not what their preference is that disturbs me, it's their behaviour. Almost every single fucker that falls into the "guy with tits" archetype (and not actual, proper herms and etc) All seem to share the same mentality. They're all arrogant, bigoted douchebags. And when it comes to specific fans in a fandom, I've never found a more stereotypically accurate group than this. And I know A LOT of them. It's somehow the religious extremist equivalent for online fetishes. And I don't know why. It's like ex: Some few that say that all doms are sadist. And sure, some of them are, but not all of them. Or that ex: every single murrican that watches nascar is an alcoholic. Or that everyone that does yoga is a vegan. Yes, it might apply to some or even many. But this is literally the first group I find where they all check off the same boxes in the checklist. And I'm honestly go Gummy curious in what the fuck is the cause for that. Are there really just an universal sub-set you like if you are into guys with tits? Does it only appeal to those of a particular mindset?
And no, it's like you go to a restaurant with a bunch of guys, you all order a sandwich, and all of said guys ask to have a chocolate sundae instead of the salad, and they all get one, so you go "hey, that seems neat" and ask for a strawberry sundae, and the waiter flips their shit on you for daring to think it's okay to ask for something that isn't on the menu. And when you point to the pile of sundaes the others have they just scoff and go "That's different! It's their preference! They have a right to love chocolate!"
->
I'm not talking about actual, proper herms, or their origin, I'm talking about the sub-category "guys with tits", which is an archetype version. Much akin to how that "black alicorn with red hair, gary stue" is a OC archetype. It's kinda the "snuff" category of gore so to speak. Not all gore "goes there", nor do everyone that likes gore do it to the same level or extent. The "guy with tits" is kinda the ex: media portrayal of "how all furries are". THAT'S the guy with tits. It's a large majority of the herm fandom, or at least a incredibly loud one. As I've so far only found 2½ artists that does actual herms, aiming for the "best of both worlds" ideal. I have a lot of respect for the trans, interex, genderqueer and etc community. Which is part of why I despise the guys with tits. Because they take a piss on all of those with their demands, "it's not gay" attitude. blatant bigotry and what have you.
->
So no, it's not the concept of a herm that got my folds in a twist, it's THAT particular breed of them that gets me ticked. They're loud, obnoxious, and tries to purge anyone that doesn't share their belief with bullying and "yeah, whatever you say/*snrk* you keep believing that" against anyone not on their side. Had a FtM friend leave the fandom because of them, because their character wasn't allowed to be called by male pronouns by them. Because they had tits, that made them female, otherwise it was gay. And they had to draw accurate animal penis on them, because human anatomy looks retarded on an antrho. I know there's good people that like actual herms and the like. But no, these people are just waste of air. I haven't run into a single one that wasn't a hypocritical asshole, demanding everyone follows their preference, and treat them with the respect they refuse to give anyone bar those in their "club".
I have done that dozens of times. And my argument has NEVER been that, that's the argument of the guy with tits fanclub. My argument has ALWAYS been "don't be a hypocrite in what you like" and "don't half-ass". For example: Someone I knew that irl wants to suck horsecock, and have one, and swim in a sea of them (or at least claim to want that. and oh btw: they're totes straight, no homo) found out I prefer my MLP mares to be equally anatomically accurate. and thus, could no longer be seen with me, or my online friend, because they couldn't associate with a zoophile. Makes total sense right? Or how the fandom promotes that everyone is allowed to draw however they like, and have a right to their own preference, just as long as that is drawing horsecock and pandering to males.
->
I've tried finding stuff I can get off, problem is every. single. time I find something, there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that. Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new" said same people hiss and scold at me for trying to force my fetish onto others, and that is wrong. Not what they are doing though, because they're just spreading the truth. So excuse me if I don't find the demanded norm and preference appealing, and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn so I also could have become a spoiled brat that only bawls for more while stepping on any minority in sight.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Scienza Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:37 pm
Kattlarv wrote:My random "spoutings" tends to be me imitating my pet gecko, or making quotes and noises from games or movies :PTytan wrote:@Katt, I was being nice. Aspergers is an acute form of autism.
I do however like the idea that the 'rival' female lead has trouble with spouting random obscenities.
And make what a thing?
And was my explanation of the PH revision sufficient?
@Scie: (Try using spoilers for longer replies, saves those not interested. And erf, became longer than intended.)
- Spoiler:
And no, it's like you go to a restaurant with a bunch of guys, you all order a sandwich, and all of said guys ask to have a chocolate sundae instead of the salad, and they all get one, so you go "hey, that seems neat" and ask for a strawberry sundae, and the waiter flips their shit on you for daring to think it's okay to ask for something that isn't on the menu. And when you point to the pile of sundaes the others have they just scoff and go "That's different! It's their preference! They have a right to love chocolate!"
->
I'm not talking about actual, proper herms, or their origin, I'm talking about the sub-category "guys with tits", which is an archetype version. Much akin to how that "black alicorn with red hair, gary stue" is a OC archetype. It's kinda the "snuff" category of gore so to speak. Not all gore "goes there", nor do everyone that likes gore do it to the same level or extent. The "guy with tits" is kinda the ex: media portrayal of "how all furries are". THAT'S the guy with tits. It's a large majority of the herm fandom, or at least a incredibly loud one. As I've so far only found 2½ artists that does actual herms, aiming for the "best of both worlds" ideal. I have a lot of respect for the trans, interex, genderqueer and etc community. Which is part of why I despise the guys with tits. Because they take a piss on all of those with their demands, "it's not gay" attitude. blatant bigotry and what have you.
->
So no, it's not the concept of a herm that got my folds in a twist, it's THAT particular breed of them that gets me ticked. They're loud, obnoxious, and tries to purge anyone that doesn't share their belief with bullying and "yeah, whatever you say/*snrk* you keep believing that" against anyone not on their side. Had a FtM friend leave the fandom because of them, because their character wasn't allowed to be called by male pronouns by them. Because they had tits, that made them female, otherwise it was gay. And they had to draw accurate animal penis on them, because human anatomy looks retarded on an antrho. I know there's good people that like actual herms and the like. But no, these people are just waste of air. I haven't run into a single one that wasn't a hypocritical asshole, demanding everyone follows their preference, and treat them with the respect they refuse to give anyone bar those in their "club".
I have done that dozens of times. And my argument has NEVER been that, that's the argument of the guy with tits fanclub. My argument has ALWAYS been "don't be a hypocrite in what you like" and "don't half-ass". For example: Someone I knew that irl wants to suck horsecock, and have one, and swim in a sea of them (or at least claim to want that. and oh btw: they're totes straight, no homo) found out I prefer my MLP mares to be equally anatomically accurate. and thus, could no longer be seen with me, or my online friend, because they couldn't associate with a zoophile. Makes total sense right? Or how the fandom promotes that everyone is allowed to draw however they like, and have a right to their own preference, just as long as that is drawing horsecock and pandering to males.
->
I've tried finding stuff I can get off, problem is every. single. time I find something, there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that. Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new" said same people hiss and scold at me for trying to force my fetish onto others, and that is wrong. Not what they are doing though, because they're just spreading the truth. So excuse me if I don't find the demanded norm and preference appealing, and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn so I also could have become a spoiled brat that only bawls for more while stepping on any minority in sight.
- Spoiler:
- I'm going to be honest, it seems like you ran into a handful of toxic people and you're upset, but I think you're still failing to address one of my main points which is that it's just porn. I'm sorry about your friend and the shit that he went through, but ultimately you have to be the bigger person and move on. I'm not saying that you should get trampled on, or that you should abandon your beliefs, but you need to pick and choose when you make a stand. Getting embroiled in trench warfare over a cartoon horse with a dick isn't going to further the cause of gender/sexual awareness, it's just going to make you look ridiculous. So even if they're the worst sort of bigoted fuck, you still need to be able to say "They're an asshole" and go and do something that will actually make a difference.
As for the whole fetish norms/your fetishes chestnut, I want you take a step back and look at what you just said. How is this
any different from this?there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that.
The difference is that you agree with one and you disagree with the other. You've portrayed the tone as different, but the expectation is the same, namely that the content producer should cater to your specific interests. The thing is, they're not drawing their stuff for you, or for me. They're drawing it for themselves first, any person who commissioned stuff from them second, and their friends and fans third. Waltzing in and telling them that they should cater to you is unrealistic and arrogant on many levels. It's the same with the "Rewriting PH" thing, in that your attitude is basically that things you disagree with are terrible and need to be fixed so that they fit within your idea of "good". You can't play the mistreated victim when your attitudes are inherently the same as your "oppressors".Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new"
This doesn't mean I agree with the people who have been shits to you; I think both you and they are both being ridiculous.
This is a bald-faced lie.and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Vinylshadow Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:32 pm
Who else is going to fulfil the "Character-no-one-wants-but-is-there-anyway" quota?
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Frost Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:38 pm
Many have been down this path, Sci. What seems to be the rabbit-hole is but the head of Ouroboros.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Ironmonger Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:55 pm
After being startled one too many times by my neighbor's truck, I have nicknamed it "Shitty Shitty Bang Bang".
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Tytan Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:48 pm
- Holy shit, that's cool:
![[Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread. - Page 20 Tumblr_ndq0f1xkW21r3j652o1_1280](https://33.media.tumblr.com/1ea7c09678e4a92f04a8103052ff0001/tumblr_ndq0f1xkW21r3j652o1_1280.png)
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Stringtheory Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:56 pm
Definitely awesome, though her face irks me because it doesn't look female (or something).Tytan wrote:
- Holy shit, that's cool:
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Tytan Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:00 pm
Eh, kinda. But I never pictured BJ being particularly girly.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Scienza Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:33 pm
I found this funnier than I should have.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Frost Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:36 pm
*I stand in the bathroom, using a urinal*
*A high-pitched falsetto voice comes from the adjacent stall* "That's a re~eal nice khock you got there. Wanna come in and give me a closer look?"
*A moment passes in silence*
*A gravelly, near-demonic voice sounds out* "Get in here, boy."
*After a moment, my squad leader emerges from the stall*
Fuckin' New Guy: "That's some, Uh....impressive vocal range you have there, sergeant."
Squad Leader: *completely flat expression* "I have no idea what you're talking about."
*A high-pitched falsetto voice comes from the adjacent stall* "That's a re~eal nice khock you got there. Wanna come in and give me a closer look?"
*A moment passes in silence*
*A gravelly, near-demonic voice sounds out* "Get in here, boy."
*After a moment, my squad leader emerges from the stall*
Fuckin' New Guy: "That's some, Uh....impressive vocal range you have there, sergeant."
Squad Leader: *completely flat expression* "I have no idea what you're talking about."
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Stringtheory Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:48 pm
Just once in an any sci-fi/fantastical show (not just anime) set in modern times, I want to see the military do at least some damage to whatever the foe is because hyper-sonic shrapnel (or however a modern air-to-air missile causes damage) should shred anything not protected by magic/high tech force fields and should at least stagger the giant monster or send it flying.Scienza wrote:I found this funnier than I should have.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Tytan Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:10 pm
*Cough*Evangelion*cough*
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Scienza Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:15 pm
On an unrelated note, FN@F 2 has been confirmed.
My body is Freddy.
My body is Freddy.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Guest Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:51 pm
That's 'cos they stuffed you facefirst into that animatronic suit.Scienza wrote:On an unrelated note, FN@F 2 has been confirmed.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Tytan Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:25 am
- Something for SK:
![[Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread. - Page 20 Pictur11](https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/17/78/95/55/pictur11.png)
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Harmony Ltd. Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:00 am
This is strangely perfect:
http://kindaherny.tumblr.com/post/100636805205/holtarna-lokiperfection-what-in-the-hell
http://kindaherny.tumblr.com/post/100636805205/holtarna-lokiperfection-what-in-the-hell
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Harmony Ltd. Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:08 am
*want intensifies*
http://ubercharge.co.vu/post/100621170941/vixyhoovesmod-discord-and-flutterbutt-figure
http://ubercharge.co.vu/post/100621170941/vixyhoovesmod-discord-and-flutterbutt-figure
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Harmony Ltd. Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:07 am
And I just spent $150 on it :3
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Harmony Ltd. Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:45 am
I'm not, but that one was just too good to pass.
I've wanted to buy pony merch for a while, but I don't really like official hasbro toys, and this sculpture looks really good. I really like the pose.
I've wanted to buy pony merch for a while, but I don't really like official hasbro toys, and this sculpture looks really good. I really like the pose.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Kattlarv Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:53 am
Thanks for the spoiler, saves the discussion thread length as said.Scienza wrote:Kattlarv wrote:My random "spoutings" tends to be me imitating my pet gecko, or making quotes and noises from games or movies :PTytan wrote:@Katt, I was being nice. Aspergers is an acute form of autism.
I do however like the idea that the 'rival' female lead has trouble with spouting random obscenities.
And make what a thing?
And was my explanation of the PH revision sufficient?
@Scie: (Try using spoilers for longer replies, saves those not interested. And erf, became longer than intended.)
- Spoiler:
And no, it's like you go to a restaurant with a bunch of guys, you all order a sandwich, and all of said guys ask to have a chocolate sundae instead of the salad, and they all get one, so you go "hey, that seems neat" and ask for a strawberry sundae, and the waiter flips their shit on you for daring to think it's okay to ask for something that isn't on the menu. And when you point to the pile of sundaes the others have they just scoff and go "That's different! It's their preference! They have a right to love chocolate!"
->
I'm not talking about actual, proper herms, or their origin, I'm talking about the sub-category "guys with tits", which is an archetype version. Much akin to how that "black alicorn with red hair, gary stue" is a OC archetype. It's kinda the "snuff" category of gore so to speak. Not all gore "goes there", nor do everyone that likes gore do it to the same level or extent. The "guy with tits" is kinda the ex: media portrayal of "how all furries are". THAT'S the guy with tits. It's a large majority of the herm fandom, or at least a incredibly loud one. As I've so far only found 2½ artists that does actual herms, aiming for the "best of both worlds" ideal. I have a lot of respect for the trans, interex, genderqueer and etc community. Which is part of why I despise the guys with tits. Because they take a piss on all of those with their demands, "it's not gay" attitude. blatant bigotry and what have you.
->
So no, it's not the concept of a herm that got my folds in a twist, it's THAT particular breed of them that gets me ticked. They're loud, obnoxious, and tries to purge anyone that doesn't share their belief with bullying and "yeah, whatever you say/*snrk* you keep believing that" against anyone not on their side. Had a FtM friend leave the fandom because of them, because their character wasn't allowed to be called by male pronouns by them. Because they had tits, that made them female, otherwise it was gay. And they had to draw accurate animal penis on them, because human anatomy looks retarded on an antrho. I know there's good people that like actual herms and the like. But no, these people are just waste of air. I haven't run into a single one that wasn't a hypocritical asshole, demanding everyone follows their preference, and treat them with the respect they refuse to give anyone bar those in their "club".
I have done that dozens of times. And my argument has NEVER been that, that's the argument of the guy with tits fanclub. My argument has ALWAYS been "don't be a hypocrite in what you like" and "don't half-ass". For example: Someone I knew that irl wants to suck horsecock, and have one, and swim in a sea of them (or at least claim to want that. and oh btw: they're totes straight, no homo) found out I prefer my MLP mares to be equally anatomically accurate. and thus, could no longer be seen with me, or my online friend, because they couldn't associate with a zoophile. Makes total sense right? Or how the fandom promotes that everyone is allowed to draw however they like, and have a right to their own preference, just as long as that is drawing horsecock and pandering to males.
->
I've tried finding stuff I can get off, problem is every. single. time I find something, there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that. Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new" said same people hiss and scold at me for trying to force my fetish onto others, and that is wrong. Not what they are doing though, because they're just spreading the truth. So excuse me if I don't find the demanded norm and preference appealing, and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn so I also could have become a spoiled brat that only bawls for more while stepping on any minority in sight.
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As for the whole fetish norms/your fetishes chestnut, I want you take a step back and look at what you just said. How is thisany different from this?there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that.The difference is that you agree with one and you disagree with the other. You've portrayed the tone as different, but the expectation is the same, namely that the content producer should cater to your specific interests. The thing is, they're not drawing their stuff for you, or for me. They're drawing it for themselves first, any person who commissioned stuff from them second, and their friends and fans third. Waltzing in and telling them that they should cater to you is unrealistic and arrogant on many levels. It's the same with the "Rewriting PH" thing, in that your attitude is basically that things you disagree with are terrible and need to be fixed so that they fit within your idea of "good". You can't play the mistreated victim when your attitudes are inherently the same as your "oppressors".Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new"
This doesn't mean I agree with the people who have been shits to you; I think both you and they are both being ridiculous.This is a bald-faced lie.and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn
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- Well, it's been 150+ over ~5 years. And the problem is that there is technically no "it's just porn". It is in about the same way as school-yard bullying is just "a game" or "boys being boys". But yes, I know there's quite a lot that can use porn without any backlash. Problem is that far from even a majority use it that smoothly. It's rare for me to not run into someone that hasn't been conditioned or affected by it. Be it preference or belief wise. It really intertwines with societal standards and the porn norm, to create how we're supposed to be, and what we're supposed to like. (all in an attempt to monopolize) Met dozens that can't explain why they'd prefer x over y, they just claim "they're supposed to?"/"It's just how it is?". Or the large portion of people that have gone "I don't like that, despite never trying it, because people tell me not to!" and then they try it and conclude that "holy shit, this is awesome!". *Huff* That said, I have noticed that a majority of those people are too thick/retarded to know what common sense or hypocrisy is. So I will give you that one. Problem is: What exactly would be something that mattered? As of currently, I've had around... on average a mix between 20-45 % hit ratio on people actually "getting it" and/or being grateful for me pointing it out. (like "Oh, I didn't know the vagina wasn't located on the abdomen, thanks!")
And well, to me, it's the approach. One is demanding, the other is asking. On is more ex: "Suck me off, bitch!" and the other is more "Hey, mind giving me head? Or you know, something else you might like.".
While I can partially agree with your base concept for the first term, I can't for the second. As "something else" can't be considered a fucking fetish or "my preferences". It's like you ask what I want for dinner, and I reply "I dunno, just pick something" and you snap at me "Omg! Why do we always have to eat what you want?!", like, how the fuck is that my preference? the first, sure, as then I specifically ask if they can draw anything else than male pleasure. But the second just inquired them to try something different than the 32 copy paste templates they're constantly recolouring. Or drawing in a new angle. And again, it's "most of", you keep saying it like every single person draws exactly like they want, all the time, always for them. Met several that have replied they don't know WHY they are drawing x. They just think they have too. It's how things are. So yes, I might be biased in thinking letting people do what they want rather than being told, and not encourage bullying and hypocrisy compared to enforcing and demanding that everyone has the same preference. I'd much rather be allowed to like my things over in my corner, while respecting those that like my polar opposite in their corner, while they respect me. Not have them come over and yell that I'm taking up 1 % of their playground, and I have to bend over and play by their rules, or gtfo, because this is their playground, and it's my fault I'm not enjoying myself, because I should have forced myself to like what they do, as then we wouldn't have a problem.
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As for PH, it's more of a "this makes no fucking sense" (that dozens of people, many of which here has agreed on not making any sense or being plain stupid/neglected) and me trying to correct that. So yes, it's a bit... arrogant I guess? But apart from the minor changes there, I'm not at all confident in my "trailing off" adjustments. I'm just breaking the mould, and bringing together what is implied in the story. I haven't done too well with BJ I must admit, but they no longer spring out of freaking nowhere as a complete sub with close to no regard for their own pleasure, that's always felt guilty and bad about having sex, and only cares if their partner gets off. Or was that how you always envisioned BJ's sexuality? (And before you say anything: that description is more or less straight from Somber) Or why as said: A rapist stable, that host basically 99 % of all rapists in the entire wasteland (as women just "knowns better" than to sink to that level) builds their sex based around the male orgasm, and the male as lead, as the key centre of "sex". Each "round" being counted on when they cum, not the mare's they're supposedly there to solely service, by apparently getting themselves off. As said, I have a love/hate with PH. It has some really good stuff, but a lot of it is just plain bs. Like "Oh, I know! the best cure for my rape is to put myself through a similar thing, but just with one male, and forcing myself to be there willingly as he uses me!". And go ahead to call me cocky in this, but I'm somewhat certain I will own that scene. Honestly, free hanjob to whomever don't find it improved in any way. (when I get there) Or heck, can quit the revising if none finds it better. I know I'm far from great at writing, but I'm at least trying. So yeah, while I can admit to that I do think I'm trying to make PH "good/better" to my PoV, I do have to say one thing: I find it a little amusing, considering a huge part of PH, aside from forgiveness, is trying to do better ;P (keynote on trying)
I can agree with you there though. It's been a bit of a back and forth shitfest. Wouldn't mind being more socially competent tbh.
While in most cases, some tend to be paying for it, are you saying any random dude couldn't google for ex: [insert male catering fetish] and find free, top notch stuff from people like ex. Zone? Or an overall plethora of it? While say, if you'd search google for basically any [insert female catering fetish] they'd either be non-existent, or vastly less of them, and about all in much lower quality? To take the dick example from before, if I recall right, last I checked on E621, there was 71 pages of horsedick, and 5 pages of horsecunt, 3 of which pages were fake, as people apparently thought just placing a "|" correctly, and not between abdomen and rear counted as one. Or naughtymachinema, that had ~9 pages of fellatio, and 2 vids with cunnilingus, one of which was a fake and was more fellatio. So yeah, I'm REALLY feeling all the free, top quality porn my demographic is being showered with compared to the petty few ones males have to scramble to get by on. Why, last week a animator I spoke with said it was simply too much work in animating a climax to be able to give the female in his flash needs or a sex drive. They had to streamline and cut corners compared to their latest flash that had 2 male, and 1 female orgasm. This new one would only have 14 male and 0 female. There simply just wasn't enough time to include one, I had to understand that. They'd done it if in any way just had more time to work with, but like said: cumshots took time to animate, and they were keeping it a small scale production compared to their prior, and they wanted to offer as much variety as they possibly could within the time constraint! And yes, I am for once not even fucking exaggerating!
@EP: Welp, apparently done with the first volume... I thought it had 21 chapters for some reason... but yeah, just gotta figure out where to toss it.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Scienza Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:52 am
Kattlarv wrote:Thanks for the spoiler, saves the discussion thread length as said.Scienza wrote:Kattlarv wrote:My random "spoutings" tends to be me imitating my pet gecko, or making quotes and noises from games or movies :PTytan wrote:@Katt, I was being nice. Aspergers is an acute form of autism.
I do however like the idea that the 'rival' female lead has trouble with spouting random obscenities.
And make what a thing?
And was my explanation of the PH revision sufficient?
@Scie: (Try using spoilers for longer replies, saves those not interested. And erf, became longer than intended.)
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And no, it's like you go to a restaurant with a bunch of guys, you all order a sandwich, and all of said guys ask to have a chocolate sundae instead of the salad, and they all get one, so you go "hey, that seems neat" and ask for a strawberry sundae, and the waiter flips their shit on you for daring to think it's okay to ask for something that isn't on the menu. And when you point to the pile of sundaes the others have they just scoff and go "That's different! It's their preference! They have a right to love chocolate!"
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I'm not talking about actual, proper herms, or their origin, I'm talking about the sub-category "guys with tits", which is an archetype version. Much akin to how that "black alicorn with red hair, gary stue" is a OC archetype. It's kinda the "snuff" category of gore so to speak. Not all gore "goes there", nor do everyone that likes gore do it to the same level or extent. The "guy with tits" is kinda the ex: media portrayal of "how all furries are". THAT'S the guy with tits. It's a large majority of the herm fandom, or at least a incredibly loud one. As I've so far only found 2½ artists that does actual herms, aiming for the "best of both worlds" ideal. I have a lot of respect for the trans, interex, genderqueer and etc community. Which is part of why I despise the guys with tits. Because they take a piss on all of those with their demands, "it's not gay" attitude. blatant bigotry and what have you.
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So no, it's not the concept of a herm that got my folds in a twist, it's THAT particular breed of them that gets me ticked. They're loud, obnoxious, and tries to purge anyone that doesn't share their belief with bullying and "yeah, whatever you say/*snrk* you keep believing that" against anyone not on their side. Had a FtM friend leave the fandom because of them, because their character wasn't allowed to be called by male pronouns by them. Because they had tits, that made them female, otherwise it was gay. And they had to draw accurate animal penis on them, because human anatomy looks retarded on an antrho. I know there's good people that like actual herms and the like. But no, these people are just waste of air. I haven't run into a single one that wasn't a hypocritical asshole, demanding everyone follows their preference, and treat them with the respect they refuse to give anyone bar those in their "club".
I have done that dozens of times. And my argument has NEVER been that, that's the argument of the guy with tits fanclub. My argument has ALWAYS been "don't be a hypocrite in what you like" and "don't half-ass". For example: Someone I knew that irl wants to suck horsecock, and have one, and swim in a sea of them (or at least claim to want that. and oh btw: they're totes straight, no homo) found out I prefer my MLP mares to be equally anatomically accurate. and thus, could no longer be seen with me, or my online friend, because they couldn't associate with a zoophile. Makes total sense right? Or how the fandom promotes that everyone is allowed to draw however they like, and have a right to their own preference, just as long as that is drawing horsecock and pandering to males.
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I've tried finding stuff I can get off, problem is every. single. time I find something, there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that. Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new" said same people hiss and scold at me for trying to force my fetish onto others, and that is wrong. Not what they are doing though, because they're just spreading the truth. So excuse me if I don't find the demanded norm and preference appealing, and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn so I also could have become a spoiled brat that only bawls for more while stepping on any minority in sight.
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As for the whole fetish norms/your fetishes chestnut, I want you take a step back and look at what you just said. How is thisany different from this?there's always a norm enforcer there going "would've been better with dicks./Ew, needs less vagina!" or something like that.The difference is that you agree with one and you disagree with the other. You've portrayed the tone as different, but the expectation is the same, namely that the content producer should cater to your specific interests. The thing is, they're not drawing their stuff for you, or for me. They're drawing it for themselves first, any person who commissioned stuff from them second, and their friends and fans third. Waltzing in and telling them that they should cater to you is unrealistic and arrogant on many levels. It's the same with the "Rewriting PH" thing, in that your attitude is basically that things you disagree with are terrible and need to be fixed so that they fit within your idea of "good". You can't play the mistreated victim when your attitudes are inherently the same as your "oppressors".Whilst if I ever even dare ask if someone ex: "Have any plans of maybe doing a female version along those 29 male ones they just did", or simply "try something new"
This doesn't mean I agree with the people who have been shits to you; I think both you and they are both being ridiculous.This is a bald-faced lie.and don't get a ton of free, top quality porn
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And well, to me, it's the approach. One is demanding, the other is asking. On is more ex: "Suck me off, bitch!" and the other is more "Hey, mind giving me head? Or you know, something else you might like.".
While I can partially agree with your base concept for the first term, I can't for the second. As "something else" can't be considered a fucking fetish or "my preferences". It's like you ask what I want for dinner, and I reply "I dunno, just pick something" and you snap at me "Omg! Why do we always have to eat what you want?!", like, how the fuck is that my preference? the first, sure, as then I specifically ask if they can draw anything else than male pleasure. But the second just inquired them to try something different than the 32 copy paste templates they're constantly recolouring. Or drawing in a new angle. And again, it's "most of", you keep saying it like every single person draws exactly like they want, all the time, always for them. Met several that have replied they don't know WHY they are drawing x. They just think they have too. It's how things are. So yes, I might be biased in thinking letting people do what they want rather than being told, and not encourage bullying and hypocrisy compared to enforcing and demanding that everyone has the same preference. I'd much rather be allowed to like my things over in my corner, while respecting those that like my polar opposite in their corner, while they respect me. Not have them come over and yell that I'm taking up 1 % of their playground, and I have to bend over and play by their rules, or gtfo, because this is their playground, and it's my fault I'm not enjoying myself, because I should have forced myself to like what they do, as then we wouldn't have a problem.
->
As for PH, it's more of a "this makes no fucking sense" (that dozens of people, many of which here has agreed on not making any sense or being plain stupid/neglected) and me trying to correct that. So yes, it's a bit... arrogant I guess? But apart from the minor changes there, I'm not at all confident in my "trailing off" adjustments. I'm just breaking the mould, and bringing together what is implied in the story. I haven't done too well with BJ I must admit, but they no longer spring out of freaking nowhere as a complete sub with close to no regard for their own pleasure, that's always felt guilty and bad about having sex, and only cares if their partner gets off. Or was that how you always envisioned BJ's sexuality? (And before you say anything: that description is more or less straight from Somber) Or why as said: A rapist stable, that host basically 99 % of all rapists in the entire wasteland (as women just "knowns better" than to sink to that level) builds their sex based around the male orgasm, and the male as lead, as the key centre of "sex". Each "round" being counted on when they cum, not the mare's they're supposedly there to solely service, by apparently getting themselves off. As said, I have a love/hate with PH. It has some really good stuff, but a lot of it is just plain bs. Like "Oh, I know! the best cure for my rape is to put myself through a similar thing, but just with one male, and forcing myself to be there willingly as he uses me!". And go ahead to call me cocky in this, but I'm somewhat certain I will own that scene. Honestly, free hanjob to whomever don't find it improved in any way. (when I get there) Or heck, can quit the revising if none finds it better. I know I'm far from great at writing, but I'm at least trying. So yeah, while I can admit to that I do think I'm trying to make PH "good/better" to my PoV, I do have to say one thing: I find it a little amusing, considering a huge part of PH, aside from forgiveness, is trying to do better ;P (keynote on trying)
I can agree with you there though. It's been a bit of a back and forth shitfest. Wouldn't mind being more socially competent tbh.
While in most cases, some tend to be paying for it, are you saying any random dude couldn't google for ex: [insert male catering fetish] and find free, top notch stuff from people like ex. Zone? Or an overall plethora of it? While say, if you'd search google for basically any [insert female catering fetish] they'd either be non-existent, or vastly less of them, and about all in much lower quality? To take the dick example from before, if I recall right, last I checked on E621, there was 71 pages of horsedick, and 5 pages of horsecunt, 3 of which pages were fake, as people apparently thought just placing a "|" correctly, and not between abdomen and rear counted as one. Or naughtymachinema, that had ~9 pages of fellatio, and 2 vids with cunnilingus, one of which was a fake and was more fellatio. So yeah, I'm REALLY feeling all the free, top quality porn my demographic is being showered with compared to the petty few ones males have to scramble to get by on. Why, last week a animator I spoke with said it was simply too much work in animating a climax to be able to give the female in his flash needs or a sex drive. They had to streamline and cut corners compared to their latest flash that had 2 male, and 1 female orgasm. This new one would only have 14 male and 0 female. There simply just wasn't enough time to include one, I had to understand that. They'd done it if in any way just had more time to work with, but like said: cumshots took time to animate, and they were keeping it a small scale production compared to their prior, and they wanted to offer as much variety as they possibly could within the time constraint! And yes, I am for once not even fucking exaggerating!
@EP: Welp, apparently done with the first volume... I thought it had 21 chapters for some reason... but yeah, just gotta figure out where to toss it.
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- On your first point, I'm not saying that your cause is wrong, or downplaying the suffering of minorities. I'm saying that the way you're advocating for it is flawed. Simply put, if you really want to make a difference, you should write to your legislators, or join an advocacy group, or do something that will make a measurable impact on society. Slugging it out with the porn community, even the worst shitbags that occupy it, wastes time that could be better applied towards making a larger overall change.
And 150 people? Do you know how many bronies I've encountered that were toxic bigoted shits? How many furries? How many goddamn people? Fucking thousands. There are always going to be toxic shitty people wherever you look.
Simply put, this is patently false. If they (and/or their friends) aren't enjoying their art, and they aren't being paid to make their art, they aren't going to make it. There isn't an invisible porn demon of society that compels you to spend possibly dozens of hours to create something that society at large frowns upon and brings you neither enjoyment nor any benefits. So yes, 97% of the time, they're either drawing what they want or they're drawing what some who's paying them wants. The few exceptions are almost always when an artist's tastes change, like when Skipsy stopped doing feral clop. You aren't "letting them draw what they want," you're telling them that you don't like what they draw. And it's perfectly fine to not like what they draw. You don't have to like what they make, and they don't expect you to. But if you aren't paying them somehow, you are expected to either play nicely in the playground or leave because there is nothing making you stay. Just like how there is no invisible societal porn demon forcing them to produce content, there's also no invisible societal porn demon forcing you to view that content. It's not like society at large wants you to spend time looking at clop (hell, if anything, they probably want people to view less cartoon horse porn). If the porn or the people disagree with you, click the "X" in the corner of your window. Problem solved. Now, they shouldn't necessarily be obnoxious or aggressive towards you, but as it stands, yours is the attitude that comes off as entitled and obnoxious.And again, it's "most of", you keep saying it like every single person draws exactly like they want, all the time, always for them. Met several that have replied they don't know WHY they are drawing x. They just think they have too. It's how things are.
Lastly, Katt, we live in a magical time when basically every imaginable fetish is being catered to in some form or another. You can buy the genitalia of an imaginary animal for less money than it costs to have a nice steak dinner with your significant other. I guarantee that there are at least a dozen people pumping out stuff that satisfies your tastes for free, and if not, there are at least a thousand people that will do the same for money. Eat cereal for dinner for a few days, give twenty bucks to one of the hordes of desperate perverts on Tumblr, and off you go.
Whatever you choose to do, I'm done.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
by Vinylshadow Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:06 pm
I can't wait to read it
- In other fanfics...:
- Should I be happy that a fanfic has managed to keep my attention for over 60 chapters and only recently has our main character slept with one of the mane six?
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
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Huh, looks like Eliza is out for 360. And of course everywhere else as well if you happen to own skullgirls for something else.
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