Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[OneMoreDaySK]

Scotch Tape: Because she goes on long-winded sciency stuff. She doesn't blow as many things up as Blackjack.

Hmmm. It's because she get stuck to a supportive role and wasn't proactive. Granted, much of it was due to being dragged around by Blackjack, but a lot of stuff just happens to her and she responds in kind. Her journey was one more of rediscovery, having lost her home, her family, and her identity bits at a time. But she doesn't ever go out looking for stuff, because most of her problems were introspective, rather than an actual physical goal. I mean now she actually has something to do (cure enervation) but she was kind of tilting towards being in a similar situation as Homage, the support chick. That's one of the many ideas I'm tossing around in my head trying to answer your question.

[Scienza]

Hmph.  Why does everyone think Glory is boring?  :(

Because eggheads and adorableness.

Honestly though, I think it's a difference of interests. Glory always wants to examine things, to determine and fully understand the root causes behind why things happen, while most of the rest of the party tends to live in the moment. They're still interested in finding out why the world went to hell, but they're more interested in finding out where the road takes them rather than the compound that made it.

Also because big words.

[neoaustin]

...swicked i swear im going to stab you. that goddamn Celestia picture is bugging me. -_-

It changes, if you're referring to the one in the signature! Tres cool.

 the fact that it changes is what bugs me, how the hell does that even work? 

[O. Hinds]

Hmph.  Why does everyone think Glory is boring?  :(

Because eggheads and adorableness.

Honestly though, I think it's a difference of interests. Glory always wants to examine things, to determine and fully understand the root causes behind why things happen, while most of the rest of the party tends to live in the moment. They're still interested in finding out why the world went to hell, but they're more interested in finding out where the road takes them rather than the compound that made it.

Also because big words.

And I like her for some reason.  :D

Hmph.  Why does everyone think Glory is boring?  :(

Now I'm curious... what was snipe's opinion of Glory?

I don't recall, I'm afraid.

'Cause it seems like I'm the only one of y'all that doesn't like her.

Oh, sorry about that. Do you think that Bronode likes her despite his jokes about her boringness?

[Evilgidgit]

Hmph.  Why does everyone think Glory is boring?  :(

I don't think Glory is boring, I think find her very charming and funny.

[OneMoreDaySK]

@neoaustin
His signature links to a website that randomly selects a picture from a gallery that he's filled after registering.

Glory started out as the naive newcomer, but that eventually had to wear out as she grew accustomed to the wasteland. She's like the straightpony to everypony else's antics.

[Icy Shake]

More on why Scotch might find her boring: Glory's first independent goal, figuring out what's up with the raiders, was fairly well resolved by the time Scotch left the stable; likewise, she was already exiled from her family and community by the time that Scotch was with them, and Blackjack was in her suicidal episode at the time, so she never got to see Glory outside of team mom mode for a while, and I think by that point the impression was solidified.

[SilentCarto]

Honestly though, I think it's a difference of interests. Glory always wants to examine things, to determine and fully understand the root causes behind why things happen, while most of the rest of the party tends to live in the moment. They're still interested in finding out why the world went to hell, but they're more interested in finding out where the road takes them rather than the compound that made it.

This. Glory ends up being the team's moral center and the restraint on BJ or P-21 doing anything too crazy. She's a critical part of the team, but it means she generally tends to be a force for inaction rather than action. I think she would show a more active side as part of a mystery-oriented investigative group. Like say if you had a bunch of scientists trying to crack the secrets of Enervation...

Glory started out as the naive newcomer, but that eventually had to wear out as she grew accustomed to the wasteland. She's like the straightpony to everypony else's antics.

Yes, exactly. Compare her to a truly sedentary character like Triage, and it's clear that she's only boring by comparison to madponies like Blackjack and Rampage.

[Luminous Lead]

@neoaustin
His signature links to a website that randomly selects a picture from a gallery that he's filled after registering.

Glory started out as the naive newcomer, but that eventually had to wear out as she grew accustomed to the wasteland. She's like the straightpony to everypony else's antics.

For a good long time she always had a home that she could have gone back to. She entered the wasteland by choice (no coerced into leaving like BJ, P21 or Scotch, not born in it like Lacunae and Rampage) and continued to defend the actions of the ingsoc Enclave (even after they branded her, if I remember correctly), all the while crapping on Rainbow Dash's past efforts.

Everyone else was a fairly hardcore rebel against the system: Blackjack came to blows with Daisy over right and wrong, P-21 secretly killed other males, Rampage was an outcast even among the Reaper psychos, and Lacunae constantly fought against the Goddess. Glory... delivered food? I mean, sure it's gutsy, considering the vast social stigmas, but it was all done legitimately, and we didn't get to see it happen. Whereas most of the other characters harbour some sort of dark secret, Glory's main flaw is her lack of self confidence, meaning she doesn't have as much presence as the rest of the characters.

She's been made the damsel in distress fairly often, too (from the first impression at the weather tower, to redlight-greenlight game in the play hospital, to her branding at lighthooves, losing a wing undergrond, to falling at the filly flashers, to having an awful fate in the dark future, turned into Rainbow Dash, to being held hostage at the enclave...) so her heroic roles tend to be overshadowed by the actions of everyone else trying to save her. Kind of felt like the team Woobie, I guess.

So yeah, she may have seemed a bit boring compared to everyone else, but that's mainly because everyone else didn't seem to have a major charisma penalty for being hopelessly out of their element.

That being said, though her competence to deal with wasteland bullshit started out low early on she's really grown powerful in the late game, especially when given access to advanced equipment. She's probably Blackjack's only hope for surviving the next few years, too, as the cyberization is going to have put a lot of strain on the body and a trained medic/techie will make a vital companion.

[O. Hinds]

You know, I meant the question as rhetorical and a joke, originally; I'm quite pleasantly surprised to see the discussion springing from it growing so.

[Scienza]

Well, she is my third favorite character after Lac and Rampage, so I'm willing to spring to defend her non-boringness.

[OneMoreDaySK]

Again, in the wasteland, a hero like Glory is outshadowed by all the crazier ponies. She's there, just not as loud as the others, or at least until she finds the cure for Enervation.

Another question/prompt: Name Blackjack's kid, type, gender, and possible mutations.

[Icy Shake]

My guess is colt, given how early on, even as late as in the twenties, she was still instinctively thinking only of a filly, even if she would perhaps on occasion catch herself and add colt as an afterthought.

[SilentCarto]

Again, in the wasteland, a hero like Glory is outshadowed by all the crazier ponies. She's there, just not as loud as the others, or at least until she finds the cure for Enervation.

Yyyyeah... considering that Rampage is already with BJ, I can't wait to see Glory piloting a burning Castellanus on a one-way rescue mission straight down Cognitum's throat with "Mars, the Bringer of War" blasting on its exterior speakers.
It's gonna be epic.  

(Sure, it could have been something by Judas Priest or Dragonforce, but this is Glory we're talking about. She strikes me as a Classical sort of gal.)

[O. Hinds]

Again, in the wasteland, a hero like Glory is outshadowed by all the crazier ponies. She's there, just not as loud as the others, or at least until she finds the cure for Enervation.

Yyyyeah... considering that Rampage is already with BJ, I can't wait to see Glory piloting a burning Castellanus on a one-way rescue mission straight down Cognitum's throat with "Mars, the Bringer of War" blasting on its exterior speakers.
It's gonna be epic.  

(Sure, it could have been something by Judas Priest or Dragonforce, but this is Glory we're talking about. She strikes me as a Classical sort of gal.)

Hee! :D

[Scienza]

Again, in the wasteland, a hero like Glory is outshadowed by all the crazier ponies. She's there, just not as loud as the others, or at least until she finds the cure for Enervation.

Another question/prompt: Name Blackjack's kid, type, gender, and possible mutations.

Name: Goldenheart, Type: Probably unicorn, maybe Earth pony. There's even a remote possibility of batpony. Gender: I agree with Icy that the kid'll probably be a colt. Possible Mutations: His mother's magical liver.

[O. Hinds]

Kkat seems to be quite liking PH, judging by her latest blog post.

[neoaustin]

Kkat seems to be quite liking PH, judging by her latest blog post.

though i don't think Kkat has read that far through it, seeing as how the quotes are from book 1

(when writing this i realized i don't know Kkat's gender and have he/she pegged as a girl in my mind.   . help please?)

[Moodyman90]

General consensus and claims from those who've talked to Kkat say female, but debates still continue on.

[Guest]

Kkat seems to be quite liking PH, judging by her latest blog post.

though i don't think Kkat has read that far through it, seeing as how the quotes are from book 1

(when writing this i realized i don't know Kkat's gender and have he/she pegged as a girl in my mind.   . help please?)

In one of the comments Kkat said that they had read up to the teen chapters (16- 17 I can't remember.) and wouldn't be reading any further.

[O. Hinds]

Kkat seems to be quite liking PH, judging by her latest blog post.

though i don't think Kkat has read that far through it, seeing as how the quotes are from book 1

(when writing this i realized i don't know Kkat's gender and have he/she pegged as a girl in my mind.   . help please?)

In one of the comments Kkat said that they had read up to the teen chapters (16- 17 I can't remember.) and wouldn't be reading any further.

Oh, sorry. Comments on what?

[Derpmind]

Kkat seems to be quite liking PH, judging by her latest blog post.

Here's the link for anyone interested. Made my comment there, too, if anyone's interested in what I think. (It's ok if you're not, I don't claim to be more interesting than Kkat.)

[Guest]

Oh, sorry.  Comments on what?

Someone asked Kkat if they read PH in a previous journal entry (Can't remember which one. Robo posted it here and a few comments later I said "We know how far Kkat read now at least" or something like that if you want to dive through the pages.) and Kkat responded that he/she read up to 16 or so and wouldn't be reading any further.

[Guest]

Found it. It was the one about raiders in response to a user named feather scratch.

[O. Hinds]

I just found it too. Thanks. There don't seem to be any details regarding why she stopped...

[Guest]

Probably better Kkat doesn't say. Might result in her/him unintentionally making ammo for the people who do just hate the story for the sake of it.

[Luminous Lead]

Probably better Kkat doesn't say. Might result in her/him unintentionally making ammo for the people who do just hate the story for the sake of it.

Kkat is female. The whole "Kkat-man" username thing was a reference to an old roleplaying game she was once in, I think.

[Guest]

Got a quote? Unless Kkat said it I'm not going to assume anything.

[neoaustin]

so, random question for all except O.hinds (cause pony creator) is your account picture something you made?

[Stringtheory]

so, random question for all except O.hinds (cause pony creator) is your account picture something you made?

Wrong thread for that question mate, try the chat thread. But I will answer your question: no my avatar was simply one of the first pictures that came up when I googled 'string theory' and its suitably awesome.

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