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Post by RoboRed Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:25 pm

Same here.

in completely unrelated news...:
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Post by Frost Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:26 pm

Don't be ridiculous. We all know that Harry Potter was just a ploy to teach kids about Satanism and witchcraft, brainwashing them away from their Real True Christian families
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Post by cb5 Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:52 pm

Mister Frost wrote:Don't be ridiculous. We all know that Harry Potter was just a ploy to teach kids about Satanism and witchcraft, brainwashing them away from their Real True Christian families
I know I shouldn't, but I found out something about religion that's interesting the other day. The decline of religion in western society's best explanation to date is simply that it's causing it itself. By that I mean it's trying to hard to retain it's past membership numbers to sustain itself and in the process is annoying the fuck out of a ton of people and thus alienating them.

To give a analogy imagine you go to a gym on average once a month. You like this gym, you like the people and it feels good to get pumped up. The problem is they're annoying as fuck about trying to get you to come to the gym often, calling you up asking when you're next coming to the gym, sending you cards in the mail about promotional offers, being rude if you say you went to another gym or are interested in another gym, coming to your home when it's your time to go to the gym and buzzing your door asking if you are ready to go to the gym, constantly giving you pamplets about what sorts of exercise are good for you, and saying that you should be a exercise fanatic and telling you that you should come to the gym every day and exercise every day. Even on days that you simply just want to sleep in cause you're off work.

The moral of this is that: If you constantly annoy the living daylights out of someone and pester them 24/7 eventually they won't want to hang out with you.
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Post by Frost Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:00 pm

I make it no secret that I'm a Christian myself, but I really, really can't disagree with that. I haven't consistently attended church in a few years just because of how annoying they can be about spending all my time there and having few close friends outside the church. It doesn't help how smug they can be. 

So, yeah. A lot of Western society, in my experience, at least, is religious (if only weakly) by belief, but not by affiliation
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Post by Moodyman90 Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:07 pm

Got back from seeing Pacific Rim.

I've seen the movie before. Not in one go, not in one certain media, but I've seen it all before.


And I love every second of it.
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Post by cb5 Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:24 pm

Mister Frost wrote:I make it no secret that I'm a Christian myself, but I really, really can't disagree with that. I haven't consistently attended church in a few years just because of how annoying they can be about spending all my time there and having few close friends outside the church. It doesn't help how smug they can be. 

So, yeah. A lot of Western society, in my experience, at least, is religious (if only weakly) by belief, but not by affiliation
I'm cool with pretty much anyone wanting to have their own beliefs and is whatevs about the topic, but that's pretty much why I'm agnostic. Not really anything wrong with christianity or such, I was just getting annoyed the fuck out of. Some days people just want to sleep in cause of work or such, and calling someone at 7am after they pulled a ten hour shift working and busting their back with their everything sore to remind them to come today is not the best way to retain membership.
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Post by Frost Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:26 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:Got back from seeing Pacific Rim.

I've seen the movie before. Not in one go, not in one certain media, but I've seen it all before.


And I love every second of it.

 Did you see my and Guard's little discussion of it yesterday?
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Post by Frost Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:27 pm

cb5 wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:I make it no secret that I'm a Christian myself, but I really, really can't disagree with that. I haven't consistently attended church in a few years just because of how annoying they can be about spending all my time there and having few close friends outside the church. It doesn't help how smug they can be. 

So, yeah. A lot of Western society, in my experience, at least, is religious (if only weakly) by belief, but not by affiliation
I'm cool with pretty much anyone wanting to have their own beliefs and is whatevs about the topic, but that's pretty much why I'm agnostic.  Not really anything wrong with christianity or such, I was just getting annoyed the fuck out of.  Some days people just want to sleep in cause of work or such, and calling someone at 7am after they pulled a ten hour shift working and busting their back with their everything sore to remind them to come today is not the best way to retain membership.

 It was especially annoying for me considering that most people at just about every church I've been to were straight-edge, very smug about it, and most were near-completely sheltered from the real world, from their upbringing to the present
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:31 pm

I'm still up for more discussion about Pacific Rim if you'd like

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Post by O. Hinds Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:32 pm

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Post by Moodyman90 Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:32 pm

I saw some of it and then there was Spoiler tags about the movie so I didn't look. I'll check that out now.
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Post by Ketchup Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:50 pm

some of My opinions on religion and teachings, may offend:
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Post by Frost Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:53 pm

Well, my parents are (and I was raised) borderline-Fundamentalist. I myself (self-evidently) moderated the older I got
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Post by cb5 Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:03 am

Me personally, the short version is was extremist fundamentalist for a couple years, but slowly lost my faith because extremely sheltered church and church members tried to keep me as one of them without even lacking the basis for understanding what was going on. If someone has never been hungry or in extreme pain then how could they understand it?

Like if you never in your life have been hungry then how do you know what hunger is?
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:16 am

Personally I was born and raised Methodist. Add that to the fact I'm in the so called Bible belt and the bible thumping South... yeah.

I have my beliefs set deep within Christian doctrine, but I try keep an open mind, usually don't criticize others beliefs, and try not to force my beliefs on others. All in all, I believe that people should believe in whatever they want to, and if somebody wants to convert to something else then be supportive and helpful. Even if it something you don't believe in.


On to Pacific Rim.

Pacific Rim talk.:
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:23 am

Moodyman90 wrote:Personally I was born and raised Methodist. Add that to the fact I'm in the so called Bible belt and the bible thumping South... yeah.

I have my beliefs set deep within Christian doctrine, but I try keep an open mind, usually don't criticize others beliefs, and try not to force my beliefs on others. All in all, I believe that people should believe in whatever they want to, and if somebody wants to convert to something else then be supportive and helpful. Even if it something you don't believe in.


On to Pacific Rim.

Pacific Rim talk.:

 I agree with you wholeheartedly on the issue of religion. The way I see it, religion, and beliefs in general, are like penises: It's okay to have one. It's okay to be proud of it. It's even okay to offer to share it. Just don't whip it out in public or shove it down kids' throats.

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Post by Quotidian Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:34 am

Guarddogjr wrote:I'm still up for more discussion about Pacific Rim if you'd like

I guess I might as well jump in.

I went in expecting giant robots punching the ever-loving crap out of giant monsters, and that's exactly what I got. And really, that's all I feel the movie needed to be. I know everyone loves to overanalyze things here, and hey, that's fine, that can be fun, but really, Pacific Rim is a dumb movie with great set pieces and sexy action segments, and I'm fine with that.
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:37 am

Quotidian wrote:
Guarddogjr wrote:I'm still up for more discussion about Pacific Rim if you'd like

I guess I might as well jump in.

I went in expecting giant robots punching the ever-loving crap out of giant monsters, and that's exactly what I got. And really, that's all I feel the movie needed to be. I know everyone loves to overanalyze things here, and hey, that's fine, that can be fun, but really, Pacific Rim is a dumb movie with great set pieces and sexy action segments, and I'm fine with that.

 Get out.
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:47 am

More Pacific Rim goodness:
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:57 am

Moodyman90 wrote:
More Pacific Rim goodness:

 
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:57 am

I can't believe I just used the word 'realistically' in a discussion about 300-foot mechs
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:10 am

I don't know if that means I won, you won, or if we should call it a draw.

Besides, the real answer is that this was a giant robot vs giant monster movie. If we're lucky we may get Gundam like mecha movies in the future, maybe even a squad of robots vs monsters eventually, but it wasn't this movie.

Now if I was to really nit-pick it would be the use of the "let's introduce these awesome pilots and Jaegers just to see them killed off later" thing. I know why they did it, the same reason they do the same thing in other movies, but still.
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:17 am

Moodyman90 wrote:I don't know if that means I won, you won, or if we should call it a draw.

Besides, the real answer is that this was a giant robot vs giant monster movie. If we're lucky we may get Gundam like mecha movies in the future, maybe even a squad of robots vs monsters eventually, but it wasn't this movie.

Now if I was to really nit-pick it would be the use of the "let's introduce these awesome pilots and Jaegers just to see them killed off later" thing. I know why they did it, the same reason they do the same thing in other movies, but still.

 Hey, maybe we'll get a sequel. Except, due to the massive leaps and bounds in technology that, ironically, the war forced humanity to take, it's set a hundred years in the future when humanity has spread and colonized across dozens of worlds, and a bunch of alien dickbags are trying to kill us. And now it's up to a massive army of Jaegers to save the day/night/dusk/local-time-equivalent
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:21 am

I can dig that. I'm expecting an increase of American made giant robot films as well as giant monster movies the next few years.
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:26 am

As Guard said, I'm sure we're also going to see more "realistic", for lack of a better term, offerings in the vein of mechwarrior
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:32 am

Yeah, that's probably going to be the case.

Ron Perlman was good for how little he was in the movie. Also makes you wonder just how his character ended up in his line of work as well.
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Post by Frost Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:34 am

Or what the hell he was thinking when he got dressed that morning
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Post by Quotidian Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:41 am

Mister Frost wrote:Or what the hell he was thinking when he got dressed that morning

"Hmmm... are the golden platemail shoes too ostentatious? Oh who am I kidding, I'm Ron Fucking Perlman!"
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:52 am

From the implication of what we're given in the movie, he pretty much made a new identity for himself and I guess that identity comes with an image.
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Post by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:04 am

Quotidian wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:Or what the hell he was thinking when he got dressed that morning

"Hmmm... are the golden platemail shoes too ostentatious? Oh who am I kidding, I'm Ron Fucking Perlman!"

Hey don't knock those shoes, those golden platemail was just right amount of flashy and meaning business!

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