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Post by SilentCarto Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:14 pm

hawkeye92 wrote:What really got me thinking was Goldenblood's conversation with Trottenheimer. Since Starmetal and moonstone self anhialate each other, to conserve physics it would release the energy of twenty thousand tons of matter. Which equates to 1.8e24J. Or enough power to rival the US's energy output for about a hundred thousand years. Or over seven and a half million times bigger than the biggest nuclear weapon ever detonated. In fact, it's 1800 times more energy than the La Rita supervolcanic eruption.
Yeah, it's clearly not an E=mc^2 total matter-to-energy reaction. From the qualitative descriptions, 101 kg of reaction mass releases somewhere between 10 kt and 1 Mt of energy. For comparison, if you captured all the energy released by 1 kg of matter reacting with 1 kg of antimatter, it would be a 43 Mt bomb! (In reality, up to half the energy escapes as neutrinos, so cut that down to a more realistic 20-or-so megatons, assuming you were able to convert all the usable energy into heat.)
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Post by Vergil Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:55 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:
Vergil wrote:Are you inside my head?
you sir, must be in mine.
Welcome... to Unity.

Huh. Guess I badmouthed the goddess one too many times there.
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Post by Luminous Lead Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:26 am

So, Blackjack was pretty much confirmed as Twilight's descendant last chapter. What I only realized JUST NOW was that this meant she's BIG MAC's descendant too.

So, as Big Mac's descendant and the product of his betrayal, it falls to her to deal with the remnants of his Marauders. Whether to gather them or lay them to rest...

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Post by Stringtheory Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:45 am

Luminous Lead wrote:
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Post by OneMoreDaySK Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:04 am

@Boo ending
No, Twilight is going into Boo, so then Blackjack's adoptive pet/daughter will now be her ancestor! /wmg

@Jetstream
Best bet is some remnant, probably legate, has some kind of info on her.
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Post by Vergil Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:06 am

OneMoreDaySK wrote:@Boo ending
No, Twilight is going into Boo, so then Blackjack's adoptive pet/daughter will now be her ancestor! /wmg

Why am I half convinced this will happen
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Post by Caoimhe Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:21 am

I've little to say right now since I just finished after pausing last night before certain big reveals. I like to torture myself to make new material last longer. ;)

Gotta say I really really liked the pacing in this chapter. LOTS of new yummy plot (shut up) handled very well and no scenes that go on for too long.

I guess I can shut up about certain inaccuracies of fan art now, too. :p

I'm also glad I don't understand any of these anime references some are talking about because I don't wanna be spoiled if certain story elements are being lifted heavily.

Anxiously awaiting impending awesome mistermech dump of purty peektures. I'd love to see an interpretation of our heroine's initial "dive" towards the end. That sounded real tranquil before everything else showed up, of course. Damn the vagueness, too lazy to put stuff in spoiler tags.

E: and don't take this as shallow tumblrese social justicey crap, but the Neighponese pony is...yellow? I understand the intent but some might not be too happy about that exact description...

Moodyman90 wrote:Well... at the rate she's going, or rather at the rate Somber is writing her. By the end of the story either they're going to use Boo as a replacement body for Blackjack.

I could very well see this being a huge moment and moral dilemma. Blackjack possibly forced to take the life of a true innocent and, more so, the purest and most unique (considering Boo was more advanced and learned than the other blanks) living form of her race to commit possibly the most selfish act she could do - denying the right of another being to live so she can. That'd be some defining character elements right there.
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Post by CannonFodder Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:01 am

Caoimhe wrote:I'm also glad I don't understand any of these anime references some are talking about because I don't wanna be spoiled if certain story elements are being lifted heavily.

Anxiously awaiting impending awesome mistermech dump of purty peektures.

E: and don't take this as shallow tumblrese social justicey crap, but the Neighponese pony is...yellow? I understand the intent but some might not be too happy about that exact description...

I could very well see this being a huge moment and moral dilemma. Blackjack possibly forced to take the life of a true innocent and, more so, the purest and most unique (considering Boo was more advanced and learned than the other blanks) living form of her race to commit possibly the most selfish act she could do - denying the right of another being to live so she can. That'd be some defining character elements right there.
Last chapter was a GITS reference and this chapter a evangelion reference. If I had the power of time travel I would go back in time five years ago and slap the daylights out of my weaboo teenager self.

Eh, I'm probably going to do some art myself. It's been ages since I've drawn and I keep trying to ask somber what he would want, but he's like if waldo and carmen sandiego have a offspring.

Well that was only one pony, not all the ponies would be yellow.

I don't think Boo will be a replacement body. Blackjack would probably let herself die before it came to that.
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Post by Caoimhe Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:33 am

Meh, probably right on the latter. Damn my desire for constant internal psychological trial.
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Post by Kippershy Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:32 am

tylertoon2 wrote:
CamoBadger wrote:For some reason I feel like this song could be very appropriate to PH

As I said on the Chat Thread this song would be Very Good as well.




As for
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Broken Bonds already has dibs on this song.
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Post by WavemasterRyx Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:23 am

I don't think anyone actually expected that I'd have my comments done by tonight, but all the same, I'm sorry, Somber. I'll try my best to get them done soon, unfortunately my best isn't very good.

OneMoreDaySK wrote:@CannonFodder
I'm kinda hoping that Mistermech'll do Blackjack, while Ryx has something on the blanket of mares. They're probably busy though.
I would love to do something for the new chapter, unfortunately the past few days haven't been very good at all, and it hit hardest right after I finished reading the chapter, so I don't think I'm going to be able to draw anything for a while...


I'm sorry.
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Post by Kippershy Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:35 am

*Hugs Wavey*

Don't worry dude, he knows you have your issues and need to take your time, he understands. You shouldn't get yourself worked up over it, he appreciates that you do them at all most of all.
Trust me on that one, I would love to get comments later than never.
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Post by Katarn Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:06 am

Hey. It's been a while since I've visit this thread. Chapter was awesome. No, really. We need art with Deus-tank. Also, maybe, scene where TS looks at BJ and what happens next. Also.
Goddeess/Trixie - soon! Bucking soon you'll be vaporized!

Side note. I'm at work, bored and it's 5 hours till I'll be at home, oh well. At least I've killed some time yesturday here by reading new chapter. Spike
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Post by OneMoreDaySK Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:33 am

@Ryx
*hugs*
Like I said, I know you all are busy and I'm sorry that you've hit some bad days. I hope they get better soon though.
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Post by SilentCarto Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:36 am

Luminous Lead wrote:So, Blackjack was pretty much confirmed as Twilight's descendant last chapter. What I only realized JUST NOW was that this meant she's BIG MAC's descendant too.

So, as Big Mac's descendant and the product of his betrayal, it falls to her to deal with the remnants of his Marauders. Whether to gather them or lay them to rest...
Huh, interesting thought. Though at this point we can guarantee that Applesnack will be Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film. He's currently either disabled in Glyphmark, waiting for Pip to get well enough to reboot his armor, or up and about while Pip recovers enough to achieve Peace In Our Time... so to speak.

By the way, I want to remind everyone that the chatter about Operation Cauterize is because of the systemwide alert Pip set off in the MAw Hub. The purpose of Cauterize was to kill all Dashites due to the perceived threat of one getting into the SPP, not a response to Maripony blowing up. The destruction of a small fleet probably silenced all of Autumn's opposition, though.
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:00 pm

Thoughts on Latest Chapter:

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Post by Downloaded Skill Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:03 pm

While I was making breakfast today I realized something. With Blackjack's new enhancements, the plate on her chest and the ridges along her spine / head, she can't wear regular armor anymore. At this point I think she has a passive DT of 12 or so. I really did like the hoofington football / reaper armor, but at this point she'll need something custom made which only a few groups can do. Do you guys think she'll just run without armor to put the new augments through their paces?
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Post by OneMoreDaySK Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:06 pm

@DownloadedSkill
She learns shield spell, I'm calling it.
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Post by Vergil Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:11 pm

OneMoreDaySK wrote:@DownloadedSkill
She learns shield spell, I'm calling it.

If I had to pick one thing I love most about BJ now, it's how eager she has suddenly become to learn magic.
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Post by CannonFodder Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:11 pm

Downloaded Skill wrote:While I was making breakfast today I realized something. With Blackjack's new enhancements, the plate on her chest and the ridges along her spine / head, she can't wear regular armor anymore. At this point I think she has a passive DT of 12 or so. I really did like the hoofington football / reaper armor, but at this point she'll need something custom made which only a few groups can do. Do you guys think she'll just run without armor to put the new augments through their paces?
She could just get larger sized armor and wear it loosely.
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Post by Meleagridis Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:32 pm

scootayay wrote:I'm only checking in because I just heard back from the printing.
Good news, we can include a letter if we want to. They just need to be able to print it. That confirmation email should also be on it's way now.
We can all contribute to a thank you letter?

CannonFodder wrote:
Kippershy wrote:
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Yeah last thing we need is a bunch of Deus running around with a 20mm turrets for their heads.

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I'ma follow dat cunt.

CannonFodder wrote:
We now know either horse or goldenblood was uploaded to the crusader.

We do? I thought we only knew that a big machine was missing and that Horse was trying to build his own Cognitum Crusader.

Luminous Lead wrote:
Jetstream -Yet to be found.
The empty shell was filled with explosive and sent away. No confirmation on how far hope brought her.

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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:48 pm

OneMoreDaySK wrote:@DownloadedSkill
She learns shield spell, I'm calling it.
Now I'm wondering if it's possible to weaponize the shield spell to make, let's say, force blades...
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After all, she has already mastered magic bullets, right ?
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Post by OneMoreDaySK Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:14 pm

@Harmony
You mean like weaponizing the shield bubble like in RvB?
Or doing the expanding shield thing Sue Storm could do in some continuities?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:27 pm

Never watched RvB, and I don't know who's that "Sue Storm" you're referring.


What I mean is using the fact that from what we know magical shields act like hard "walls", to create a "wall" in the form of a blade, which you could use as one and summon at will.

Or summon it inside somepony, tearing him/her from the insides in the process.


Summon a shield wall in the middle of someone : cut him in half.
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Post by Downloaded Skill Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:38 pm

That certainly is a possibility, but I don't think Blackjack would do that. It is very pragmatic and using a spell in an unorthodox way, like Blackjack using TK to hit the magazine release on people's guns, but I think that method is too violent for her tastes. She worries about becoming a monster and after she butchered those enclave soldiers at Yellow River she knows exactly what she's capable of if shes in the right mood. Using extremely violent, but practical, methods would bring her closer to the edge. I don't think she'll use the shield spell, if she gets one, in that way, but I'd count on her enemies trying.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:30 pm

Yeah, she probably won't use it, or at least not until she either snap or is forced by circumstances to improvise such a weapon.

Thinking about it, if you can summon it as a blade, it could be useful to cut ropes if you ever find yourself tied up ; or something similar.
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Post by CannonFodder Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:44 pm

What I'm interested in is whether or not Blackjack will get more upgrades in the future.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:53 pm

Depend on how long there remain for the story to be finished.

The Collegiate has unlocked Cyberpony, and even if the Doc said they would need years to be able to make augments from scratch, if they got the necessary spare parts, then maybe in a few weeks/month they could have the first few prototypes of Cyberpony augmented parts.

Once the news get to them of BJ's recent upgrade,
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Post by Caoimhe Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:16 pm

Hmm, wait I assumed they replaced the flesh with the armor and reinforced/replaced existing subdermal armor. So, does the new stuff go over her hide, under or in place of it? I know it said she had a small chest plating thing but I assume for the most part other than that, the legs and the spine ridges, most of her torso is still fleshy and in proportion, just heavier.

If she ever does get wings, I except a scene of her refusing to fly ever and being afraid followed by repeatedly crashing into a wall over and over again.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:23 pm

@ Cao : Plasticube posted the following in the fanart thread :
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