Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

[SilentCarto]

Was this posted yet?
http://brainbread.deviantart.com/art/Littlepip-Plush-307878557

Aww, that's adorable. I love Pip with green eyes.

[Kattlarv]

@Cpt: That's the least you can say xD

@Wave: (Suit) Hehe, yeah :P And thanks. I hope I managed to write it decent enough to be generally enjoyed by those wanting to read about a totally random shipping xD
(Spoiler) Aye, indeed. Get so sick of some people. Especially those that say vulva's aren't part of the character design in any way. While doing the complete opposite for males.
(Alc) Ah, okies. Well, they still should be an area weapon imo, they do lit the target square ablaze. But no, concealment works.
(Fetish) To compate to my animation skills, I got point blank, precise shot and raid reload, but I got no proficiency with my weapon xD

@Wiggle: (Fic) Did you mean Kipper, or did you mean me? xD (also, will read that fic in a while)

@Random: Daw... LittlePlush :P

[RoboRed]

Was this posted yet?
http://brainbread.deviantart.com/art/Littlepip-Plush-307878557

hnnngggggomgthelittepipbuck...

[Kattlarv]

Totally related btw: http://www.explosm.net/comics/2836/

[Wigglejigglesquiggle]

@Wiggle: (Fic) Did you mean Kipper, or did you mean me? xD (also, will read that fic in a while)

Whoops! Fixed.

[Meleagridis]

Are you gonna continue this?

I'm dead set on 'this' Cerberus narrating the canon journey through Hightower, showing the group scenes through his eyes with a few conversations with non-Blackjack characters.

However, silly Cerberus was really fun. Damn me, I think I just might. I think I'll tap out a couple shorts that should establish what I'm looking to do. If anyone smiles, that's enough reason for more. I'm very happy to see that people liked this.

Spoiler:

This song needs to be in FNV

Project Horizons introduced me to these guys.

[Kattlarv]

@Wiggle: Kai ;P Sending you a PM with it.


Also, guys, can you tell me if this is me missing a point, or if the person I'm debating with here is really stupid:
In comparison, they are a well known tenpony resident while I'm one in the "lower quarters". They dislike me having a thing up for display, they reported me, but I have the law on my side, they were turned down by the head chief of the security force once before to make me remove it. And now they're back again one month later, I offered to compromise to solve the issue, and they asked me what I wanted, and what I was willing to offer for it. And now, I'm not very good at this, but aren't THEY supposed to offer ME something? They are the ones that want me to give up something in their superficial favour. (and also, their reason to dislike it is that I "use it for PR" while all I do is like... I at most mention "This is a sparkle cola". There's a difference between a "There is a sparkle cola in this picture" and "BUY SPARKLE COLA" or "In co-operation with sparkle cola, visit ~~~ for more info."

[Sindri]

Also, guys, can you tell me if this is me missing a point, or if the person I'm debating with here is really stupid:
In comparison, they are a well known tenpony resident while I'm one in the "lower quarters". They dislike me having a thing up for display, they reported me, but I have the law on my side, they were turned down by the head chief of the security force once before to make me remove it. And now they're back again one month later, I offered to compromise to solve the issue, and they asked me what I wanted, and what I was willing to offer for it. And now, I'm not very good at this, but aren't THEY supposed to offer ME something? They are the ones that want me to give up something in their superficial favour. (and also, their reason to dislike it is that I "use it for PR" while all I do is like... I at most mention "This is a sparkle cola". There's a difference between a "There is a sparkle cola in this picture" and "BUY SPARKLE COLA" or "In co-operation with sparkle cola, visit ~~~ for more info."

...I'm gonna need more than that to make any sort of judgement. PM or email me?

[SilentCarto]

they asked me what I wanted, and what I was willing to offer for it.

I think what this means is, "Look, how far are you willing to budge on this, and how much do I have to pay you to induce you to budge that far?"

[Meleagridis]

they asked me what I wanted, and what I was willing to offer for it.

I think what this means is, "Look, how far are you willing to budge on this, and how much do I have to pay you to induce you to budge that far?"

Mhm. If I understand this correctly, they're basically trying to bully you out of business the nice way. Does that sound far off?

[Kattlarv]

@Sindri+Silent: It's basically that some moron (yes, I can call them that, they are stupid) dislikes my use of mentioning them in a artwork, despite me fully following the rules of the site. So they reported me without any real footing, and are trying to get me to remove any mention of them in said picture, despite it not being against the terms of service. And throughout the whole ordeal they've strut around like the school bully/brat, expecting things to go in their favour since, "hey, they are them. Why shouldn't others bend to their will? They are more important than others.". First time around a month ago, they reported me, admin contacted me, I solved the issue, showing both that I had proof and permission to use it when it was made, and noted that it wasn't against the ToS. Now, a month later, tried of waiting, they made another trouble ticket towards me, making a "remove it already!" rant. I managed to have the admin coax them into telling me what their problem was, and they said I was using their good name as a "PR stunt", and that was the only possible reason I could ever have for mentioning their name in it, to "ride on their success". It totally couldn't have anything due to the fact they were relevant to the picture. (basically like saying "This was going to be a drawing of darth vader, but I changed it into Bobba Fett." and get ranted on for "ruining Vaders good name." since that was basically it. I just state that "It was going to be for x, but ran out of time, so made it into y instead. (was for contest, but was to late to enter, so changed it to something else, and just mentioned in the description it was going to be for said contest.)) and now I got left with a "What are your offers? And what are you willing to give?" after telling them I'd be willing to compromise. This whole time they've just strutted around like they own the place, and like I should obey them. And am mainly just wondering if I'm actually the one that is supposed to make an offer, despite it being them that want me to do things. And their current offer was more or less "give me 100 %, you get 0 %" in terms of what each would get out of it.

Erf, trailed off a bit. Sorry. I really have to get my sleep schedule under control... ah well, have to shower, brush teeth, comb, spiff up room and all that later today after I get up again...

@Mele (above thing) Like I tried to explain better above: It's more that I got the upper hand, I have the admins and rules on my side. And if I compare it to anything in my head, it's one of those "drug exchanges". I'm the dealer with the money and guards, and they just stroll in and start to try and bargain, while they don't exactly have the upper hand. Pretty much like... being hours late, and trying to get me to pay more for less, or in this case a "How about you just give me the money, and I will not give you the drugs, but instead will nod silently since I got like I wanted again, never going to bother speaking with you again. Since you should respect me, cuz I'm popular. Despite the fact I don't give a fuck about you, and don't respect you at all." or stuff... I am going to bed now, blargh! I'll need to drink more tomorrow.

[Rafafidi]

Random questions:
Chapter 3:

He
connected the end of the pouch to the PipBuck intake and within seconds
the bag drained and I felt a tingle running up my leg. The rad meter
dropped a bit closer towards yellow.

Rad-away is being injected by the pip-buck?

Some chapters later (can't find it now), Glory injected rad-x by syringes. Is this cannon in FOE?

Chapter 10:the Flak Jacket pony with the Marauders is Steelhooves/Applesnack, right?

[Sindri]

Okay, my understanding is that he is asking you to do something, which you are not required to do by rules or conventional social customs. He has no authority to instruct you to do anything, so at this point if he truly requires it to happen, it is his burden to convince you to do so.


Make it clear to him that you have not agreed to his whim, you are not begging some small boon in return for what you are already bound to do. He must make you an offer which convinces you to do this thing, or it will not be done. Do not reply to any response which is less than courteous, and report even the smallest of infractions to an actual authority. He sounds easy to bait, and there are a lot of things which might be said in the heat of the moment which are classified as banning offences on most sites.

[Sindri]

Rad-away is being injected by the pip-buck?

Some chapters later (can't find it now), Glory injected rad-x by syringes. Is this cannon in FOE?

There are a lot of drugs that have multiple input vectors. An injection gets to the bloodstream fastest, and can be regulated by medical tech (like a pipbuck) if available, but tends to be uncomfortable and more expensive and difficult to use properly than other means. Pills are easiest and cheapest, but have a delayed effect since they need to get from the mouth through the digestive system to the blood and affected organs. We've seen potions (healing and radway) drunk, injected, or poured directly on a wound in the past. The most common form of rad-x is probably the pills, as shown in the video games, but in an emergency that wouldn't get through the system fast enough, so injectors are almost certainly part of any good medic's gear.

[SilentCarto]

I think the reference to injected Rad-X was supposed to be RadAway.

[Cptadder]

There are a lot of drugs that have multiple input vectors. An injection gets to the bloodstream fastest, and can be regulated by medical tech (like a pipbuck) if available, but tends to be uncomfortable and more expensive and difficult to use properly than other means. Pills are easiest and cheapest, but have a delayed effect since they need to get from the mouth through the digestive system to the blood and affected organs. We've seen potions (healing and radway) drunk, injected, or poured directly on a wound in the past. The most common form of rad-x is probably the pills, as shown in the video games, but in an emergency that wouldn't get through the system fast enough, so injectors are almost certainly part of any good medic's gear.

If Rad-X is based on the same medicine as the real life thing is for Fallout (Potassium iodide) then it can be easily made into pill form or dissolved in a saline solution for use as an injection.

Likewise Med-X which is based off of morphine can be used in pill form or injection form. Rad away on the other hand should be only a saline solution if it is what I think it is. Which is saline plus magic, IE Saline to get it into your body easily and magic to either seek out the damaged issues or foreign particles you've breathed bind to them and moved them into the digestion system to be flushed out of the body. Based on the description and usage that's "should" be how it works and have the side effect of needing to relieve yourself half a dozen times thanks to having large amounts of fluid in your digestive track. One of the several stop gap treatments for Rad exposures is just this, flushing the system with large amounts of fluids in an effort to fortify the body and get anything you swallowed, we can't do anything for damaged internal tissue or particles you breathed in but then we don't have Unicorn magic or Zebra alchemy.


OAN:My first ten chapter review thingy should be done by tomorrow, I would have posted it sooner but I went back to do more re-reading to get down those lingering questions not just a simple count of how many times Blackjack called herself an idiot or handed out a Darwin award in person.

[Ketchup]

Rad-X isn't used for immediate treatment of radiation poisoning, so pill form is probably used for ease of storage, since hypodermics are pretty fragile. It probably isn't potassium iodine in FO:E, since the radiation is magical in nature. Maybe magical iodine.

And Med-X is exactly morphine, not even based off of it, it simply was, until censors got it.

[Cptadder]

.It probably isn't potassium iodine in FO:E, since the radiation is magical in nature. Maybe magical iodine.

Exactly earth drug + Magic, take Potassium iodine which is effective against thyroid problems which bar none is the first thing that any level of radiation screws up, and add in magic because hey magic. Some sort of low level slow releasing heal spell perhaps? Or a anti-cancer cell bit of pixie dust.

I just prefer to call it Science + magic = Fallout Equestria drugs.

[WavemasterRyx]

@Wigglejigglesquiggle
(Warmth) - Actually I did get a chance to read it, and I was fairly impressed. It seemed much less like a clop fic, and more like just adding intimate details to PH. So I'd have to say well done wih it.
(SSXanthe) - Heh, thank you, sir, I'm glad you like it.

@Kattlarv
(Spoiler) - Well I had never really considered them to be part of a character design, but in my defense, I usually don't consider any sexual characteristics in making a character design.

@(unrelated)
I really need some tylenol and to figure out what I'm doing for PH's 1st birthday...

[FeatherDust]

The most common form of rad-x is probably the pills, as shown in the video games, but in an emergency that wouldn't get through the system fast enough, so injectors are almost certainly part of any good medic's gear.

If Rad-X is based on the same medicine as the real life thing is for Fallout (Potassium iodide) then it can be easily made into pill form or dissolved in a saline solution for use as an injection.

Are we confusing Rad-X with RadAway here? Rad-X doesn't reduce your radiation level, it just gives you increased rad resistance against incoming sources. RadAway is the one that reduces your current radiation level, and it's not ever pills, it's little bags of orange fluid. From the description and the effect, this is clearly a dose of RadAway.

That said I don't recall Rad-X ever being injected. It's a tablet. Med-X is an injection.

It is curious that in this one case, and no other, it's delivered through the pipbuck's injector system. In the original FoE and all other examples of it in PH, RadAway has always been drunk like a juice box. Everyone is always making faces at the flavor (BJ excepted), and I don't think any in-pipbuck injector has ever been mentioned since.

[O. Hinds]

The most common form of rad-x is probably the pills, as shown in the video games, but in an emergency that wouldn't get through the system fast enough, so injectors are almost certainly part of any good medic's gear.

If Rad-X is based on the same medicine as the real life thing is for Fallout (Potassium iodide) then it can be easily made into pill form or dissolved in a saline solution for use as an injection.

Are we confusing Rad-X with RadAway here? Rad-X doesn't reduce your radiation level, it just gives you increased rad resistance against incoming sources. RadAway is the one that reduces your current radiation level, and it's not ever pills, it's little bags of orange fluid. From the description and the effect, this is clearly a dose of RadAway.

That said I don't recall Rad-X ever being injected. It's a tablet. Med-X is an injection.

It is curious that in this one case, and no other, it's delivered through the pipbuck's injector system. In the original FoE and all other examples of it in PH, RadAway has always been drunk like a juice box. Everyone is always making faces at the flavor (BJ excepted), and I don't think any in-pipbuck injector has ever been mentioned since.

This might just be a mistake; I'll send Somber a letter about it.

[Sindri]

However Rad-x works, it'll need to be spread throughout your system to increase your resistance to incoming radiation, right? The easiest and most comfortable way to do that is a simple pill; you eat it, it gets broken down by your digestive tract, absorbed like any other nutrient, spreads through your bloodstream. But that would realistically take several minutes at least which you just don't have sometimes. It'd be great for when you have advanced warning of radiation exposure but there are a lot of situations where it would fail to save your life. That's why I assumed that there's an injected form. Take the same chemical, put it in a saline solution instead of a tablet, and put it straight in the bloodstream. It's more expensive, less comfortable, and takes basic medical expertise to use right, but it protects you from radiation in seconds instead of minutes, which would save a patient's life in a lot of emergency cases. Heck, if it wasn't available normally, I wouldn't put it past Glory to use that science 100, grind up some pills, and make the hypos herself when she was in the VC.

And yes, RadWay is almost always drunk. But there are situations (power armored soldiers who cant'/won't remove the helmet, unconscious patients, etc.) where drinking it just isn't an option, so it makes sense to have the option to put it in their medical system and let it go straight into the bloodstream from there. We've seen healing potions injected or poured in wounds directly when drinking them wasn't an option or would take too long; why should a potion for removing radiation be any harder to use?

[Cptadder]

The most common form of rad-x is probably the pills, as shown in the video games, but in an emergency that wouldn't get through the system fast enough, so injectors are almost certainly part of any good medic's gear.

If Rad-X is based on the same medicine as the real life thing is for Fallout (Potassium iodide) then it can be easily made into pill form or dissolved in a saline solution for use as an injection.

Are we confusing Rad-X with RadAway here? Rad-X doesn't reduce your radiation level, it just gives you increased rad resistance against incoming sources. RadAway is the one that reduces your current radiation level, and it's not ever pills, it's little bags of orange fluid. From the description and the effect, this is clearly a dose of RadAway.

That said I don't recall Rad-X ever being injected. It's a tablet. Med-X is an injection.

It is curious that in this one case, and no other, it's delivered through the pipbuck's injector system. In the original FoE and all other examples of it in PH, RadAway has always been drunk like a juice box. Everyone is always making faces at the flavor (BJ excepted), and I don't think any in-pipbuck injector has ever been mentioned since.

Nope, Potassium iodide must be taken proactively, it's something you take before jumping into a hotspot. My point is that Rad-X like Med-X since it has a real life drug counterpart that the Fallout creators were working from can be compared to it's real life counterpart and Potassium iodide can be in injection or pill form with pill form being far more common due to shelf life concerns.

We in the real world don't have a Radaway.

[Rafafidi]

Found the Rad-x being injected quote, Chapter 8:

Inside the crevasse my rad meter started to click. Glory deftly pulled three
syringes from one of her many pockets and gave us each an injection.
The clicking slowed to less worrisome levels.

[Sindri]

Found the Rad-x being injected quote, Chapter 8:

Inside the crevasse my rad meter started to click. Glory deftly pulled three
syringes from one of her many pockets and gave us each an injection.
The clicking slowed to less worrisome levels.

Again, if you're already taking heavy radiation, you don't have time to wait for a pill to take effect. A good medic like Glory would use something faster-acting in that situation.

[FeatherDust]

Are we confusing Rad-X with RadAway here? Rad-X doesn't reduce your radiation level, it just gives you increased rad resistance against incoming sources. RadAway is the one that reduces your current radiation level, and it's not ever pills, it's little bags of orange fluid.

Nope, Potassium iodide must be taken proactively, it's something you take before jumping into a hotspot. My point is that Rad-X like Med-X since it has a real life drug counterpart that the Fallout creators were working from can be compared to it's real life counterpart and Potassium iodide can be in injection or pill form with pill form being far more common due to shelf life concerns.

Um... Yes, I get that, but A) pills are magic in Fallout and take effect instantly (witness BJ's immediate response to Buck tablets, for another example), and B) Rad-X still doesn't remove rads, so the passage in question is still obviously a RadAway dose.

[FeatherDust]

And yes, RadWay is almost always drunk. But there are situations (power armored soldiers who cant'/won't remove the helmet, unconscious patients, etc.) where drinking it just isn't an option, so it makes sense to have the option to put it in their medical system and let it go straight into the bloodstream from there.

That's true, and I wasn't really complaining about it being injected -- I'm not really complaining at all! -- but to my knowledge the only time such injectors have been mentioned are with regard to power armor. I don't think KKat ever mentioned a thing like that as part of the standard pipbuck package, and Somber I don't think has used it since that one time.

[SilentCarto]

Found the Rad-x being injected quote, Chapter 8:

Inside the crevasse my rad meter started to click. Glory deftly pulled three
syringes from one of her many pockets and gave us each an injection.
The clicking slowed to less worrisome levels.

Ah, okay. That's probably not Rad-X in specific, but a similar drug provided by the Enclave. It would make sense for them to develop an injectable version, given that (as Featherdust mentioned) you wouldn't want to have to open an armor helmet to dose up on Rad-X tablets.

[SilentCarto]

Um... Yes, I get that, but A) pills are magic in Fallout and take effect instantly (witness BJ's immediate response to Buck tablets, for another example), and B) Rad-X still doesn't remove rads, so the passage in question is still obviously a RadAway dose.

No, it slowed the clicking, which means it increased her rad resistance. It didn't make the rad needle drop.

[Cptadder]

Um... Yes, I get that, but A) pills are magic in Fallout and take effect instantly (witness BJ's immediate response to Buck tablets, for another example), and B) Rad-X still doesn't remove rads, so the passage in question is still obviously a RadAway dose.

Except the sentence does not make sense if it's Radaway, because the ticking is the Pipbuck sensor indicating magical radiation the wearer is absorbing and the only way to decrease that noise is move away from the radiation or shielding yourself from it somehow. The faster the ticking the more rads your soaking up. That's how it works in Fallout and FoE your Pipbuck and Pipboy ticks at you, you take a rad away the ticking goes down as a portion of the radiation you would be taking is decreased by the drugs. When your sick with radiation poising it won't tick.

I don't think KKat ever mentioned a thing like that as part of the standard pipbuck package, and Somber I don't think has used it since that one time.

As to that from FoE prologue

What is a PipBuck? A PipBuck is a device, worn on a foreleg just above the hoof, issued to every pony in a Stable when they become old enough to start work. A blending of unicorn pony magic and science, your PipBuck will keep a constant measure of your health and even help administer healing poultices and other medicine,

Which I'm guessing covers Rad-x as well

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