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I thought assexuality was suposed to be somewhat rare, but in this thread are at least 3, right?
It's becoming more common with increasing population. A mixture of chemicals in the air, water and food we eat alongside cultural upbringing issues and sociality/technology is making it so evolution is taking a step towards a-sexuality.
How is this evolution you ask? Isn't evolution meant to be survival of the fittest/continuing the genes?
That's true, and exactly why I'm right - because just as it's about continuing the strongest of genes, it's also about removing the weaker or unnecessary genes from the population pool - allowing yet more chance for the strong to succeed and dominate.
Okay, so evolution isn't some mystical force that controls us directly, but what it is instead, is a trend that seems to be universally followed.
...thus, the increasing amount of people with a-sexuality is understandable.
On top of that, it's also a case of higher population = seemingly more common, but really, it's still potentially the same ratio but just seen more often with the higher amount of people floating around.
Technology also allows us to 'meet' more people and become exposed to more of the a-sexual people out there.
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She was on top of Tenpony Tower, whose shields protected her as they did the building itself.[/i]
Oh, that explains it.
I'm not sure how I feel about that part though. On one hand it explains a lot about Psalm, and why she's as messed up in the head as she is/was. But on the other it severely lessons the feeling of tragedy about Pinkies death. Pinkie's death was the only time a shed tears in FO:E. Because she was only minutes away from preventing the bomb, and saving her life (and the entire city). If she had done everything just a minute earlier, she could have lived. Manehatten would still be standing, and by the time Fallout Equestria is starting, society could have already been rebuilt. Most of the rest of the mane 6 wouldn't have made it, but Dash and Flutters could have been saved. It would have been a relatively happy ending. But now it turns out she would have died either way, there would have been a coup d'état, and even if Manehatten had been saved from destruction, it would have ended up with a corrupt government no better (and possibly worse) than Red Eye's.
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I lol'd.SilentCarto wrote:
OH THANK GOD A POST ABOUT PROJECT HORIZONS!
WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!Sindri wrote:And people still look at porn on work computers? Seriously? How stupid do.. oh, right, sorry, I had faith in humanity for a moment. Won't happen again.
Sindri wrote:Just track them online back to their real identity, find their home address, and mail/order them something cool! That's what I do.swicked wrote:Anyway, I'd offer something for your birthday, too, but being a non-artist is pretty limiting when it comes to stuff like that.
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What?
*slowly backs away, closes door, locks it and proceeds to reinforce/barricade it*
Thanks!OneMoreDaySK wrote:Wow am I late to the party... Happy belated birthday Robo.
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Well, it's selected against by evolution for obvious reasons, and there tends to be a lot of cultural pressure towards romance and such, but there have always been quite a few of us. Everybody's heard of scientists and inventors who've dedicated their lives to research, or businessmen who've been "too busy" with their careers to bother with romance. As a general rule, asexuals are a lot less visible than the standard LGBT; instead of wanting or doing something society tends to reject, we just... never do something others consider normal. It's harder to spot and not as controversial when it happens. And then there's the fact that a lot (if not all) asexuals are perfectly capable of falling in love, they just don't have any physical attraction, so from the outside the relationship looks normal.Rafafidi wrote:I thought assexuality was suposed to be somewhat rare, but in this thread are at least 3, right?
Meanwhile the internet and recent cultural shifts tend to make people more open about such things (a few decades ago everyone would just be assumed to be straight and never discuss the topic), and increased population density leads to higher asexuality rates (which is why they're so relatively common in, say, Japan)
And I suppose there might be some truth to the idea that those who spend a significant amount of time discussing things on the internet are likely to have less overlap with those going out and dating...
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Oops I blinked and now there are three new pages. Well I wonder whats going on in the PH thread today-
...At least the missile discussion is over.
Give the question to swicked. He had a pragmatic idea for it.
...I do not think you are saying what you are saying. Evolution is a great way to eliminate asexuality from the population, what with the whole 'having children' thing... I believe you are looking for a different word, there. Something other than evolution.
But even if it does- hey, new chapter. Can't wait!
...At least the missile discussion is over.
RoboRed wrote:Ehh...asking Kim a question is a [GREEK METAPHOR REDACTED] I'd prefer not to open...
Give the question to swicked. He had a pragmatic idea for it.
Kippershy wrote:evolution is taking a step towards a-sexuality.
...I do not think you are saying what you are saying. Evolution is a great way to eliminate asexuality from the population, what with the whole 'having children' thing... I believe you are looking for a different word, there. Something other than evolution.
I was really hoping to get my little thing done before 46 came out. Now I'll just have to cross my fingers and hope nothing blows my Cerberus headcanon out of the water. I was so close, too...Somber wrote:Hi folks. Sorry I've been so quiet recently. I really should pop in and talk more but... um... I'm really bad at that. Sorry. Anyway, 46 is almost done. One more scene to do tonight. Hopefully we'll be able to brush tomorrow. It's a shorter chapter than usual as I'm splitting high tower in two.
But even if it does- hey, new chapter. Can't wait!
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Heh..."[GREEK METAPHOR REDACTED]"...lol...
Keep up the good work, Somber! Don't worry, we enjoy hearing from you on topics every so often!
Crap...forgot to touch on this...Somber wrote:Hi folks. Sorry I've been so quiet recently. I really should pop in and talk more but... um... I'm really bad at that. Sorry. Anyway, 46 is almost done. One more scene to do tonight. Hopefully we'll be able to brush tomorrow. It's a shorter chapter than usual as I'm splitting high tower in two.
Keep up the good work, Somber! Don't worry, we enjoy hearing from you on topics every so often!
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My theory is that her friends got substituted for people whose faces or possibly identities she didn't know. Given the age of the memory, it could also be that the replaced individuals were ones that Psalm couldn't remember well.OneMoreDaySK wrote:@silentcarto Now another question is how accurate was her academy dream was.
It was certainly more dreamlike than the dreams before Black, but that might be chalked up to being the first time she slept since getting cyberized. It generally matches with the info we have about Littlehorn, including some bits that Blackjack didn't know, so I'm inclined to believe that it's accurate in principle if not in detail.
I'm not totally convinced that Garnet wasn't running the show herself. I'm not sure it's a matter of targeting the Marauders so much as the emotional blow of losing Macintosh making them vulnerable to being exploited, and the OIA was right there to do it.OneMoreDaySK wrote:Personally I'm trying to figure out who wants to mess up the Marauders through Garnet. Also which lockers hasn't Blackjack opened yet?
On the lockers, she's opened Stonewing, Vanity, and Doof. That leaves Jetstream, Twist, Echo, Psalm, Applesnack, and Mac.
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Kippershy wrote:
I swing between not giving a fuck and somewhat giving a fuck.
Flirting is something I'll do no matter what - its fun, free, relaxing and good socialising.
Companionship is something I do desire almost always - though I do like my personal space and do live happily alone, having someone to confide in and to provide for / be the best I can be for to make them happy is something I very much enjoy.
It's not about me so much as it is about giving myself to someone else, making them happy and like I say - being the very best I can be for them.
Sex... eh. I mean, I haven't had any since my operation back in January so it's gonna be different, no doubt - but still, doesn't bother me that much unless
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the lass in question is wearing a French Maid Outfit. OOFT. FUCKING OOFT.
I very rarely desire companionship, and am quite content being alone 99% of the time (not including friends and family, including them I'm happy to be alone about 70% of the time). Of course there are those times that I wish I had someone to be close to, most commonly on my days of deep depression, but other than that I tend to avoid people that are not direct family or good friends.
I don't flirt at all really unless it's jokingly with a friend who knows I'm just trying to be funny. And as I've said before here, I never even try with strangers, and 90% of my conversations with them are completely business with no small talk of any kind. If they ask a question, I'll answer it and occasionally make a joke, but that's only if I'm in a very VERY good mood.
- as for sex...:
I personally hate it, so very much. I find it to be one of the most disgusting things two people can do, and the couple times I have tried it, I didn't enjoy it at all and felt like the shittiest person in the world after the fact (which is probably bad considering I was actually dating the person I tried with...the times after that I was just doing it because she wanted to and she initiated).
This applies to all forms of sexual contact, not just intercourse, and so I avoid it.
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Meleagridis wrote:Kippershy wrote:evolution is taking a step towards a-sexuality.
...I do not think you are saying what you are saying. Evolution is a great way to eliminate asexuality from the population, what with the whole 'having children' thing... I believe you are looking for a different word, there. Something other than evolution.
Find me a better word and I'll use it - but right now, it's exactly what I mean.
Evolution is as much about removing the weak as it is continuing the strong. What better a way then to push asexuality onto the ones who will accept it? I mean, I have respect for it, but in a biological sense it's 'weak'.
If you don't remove the weak, you end up with overpopulation problems like we currently have; and that's all because our current technological levels have surpassed the basic laws of how evolution works and made people healthier even when their genes are broken.
(I'm a testament to this, despite my high immune system and endurance to pain)
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Ice Crystal wrote:Kippershy wrote:
I swing between not giving a fuck and somewhat giving a fuck.
Flirting is something I'll do no matter what - its fun, free, relaxing and good socialising.
Companionship is something I do desire almost always - though I do like my personal space and do live happily alone, having someone to confide in and to provide for / be the best I can be for to make them happy is something I very much enjoy.
It's not about me so much as it is about giving myself to someone else, making them happy and like I say - being the very best I can be for them.
Sex... eh. I mean, I haven't had any since my operation back in January so it's gonna be different, no doubt - but still, doesn't bother me that much unless
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the lass in question is wearing a French Maid Outfit. OOFT. FUCKING OOFT.
I very rarely desire companionship, and am quite content being alone 99% of the time (not including friends and family, including them I'm happy to be alone about 70% of the time). Of course there are those times that I wish I had someone to be close to, most commonly on my days of deep depression, but other than that I tend to avoid people that are not direct family or good friends.
I don't flirt at all really unless it's jokingly with a friend who knows I'm just trying to be funny. And as I've said before here, I never even try with strangers, and 90% of my conversations with them are completely business with no small talk of any kind. If they ask a question, I'll answer it and occasionally make a joke, but that's only if I'm in a very VERY good mood.Congrats on learning more about me today
- as for sex...:
I personally hate it, so very much. I find it to be one of the most disgusting things two people can do, and the couple times I have tried it, I didn't enjoy it at all and felt like the shittiest person in the world after the fact (which is probably bad considering I was actually dating the person I tried with...the times after that I was just doing it because she wanted to and she initiated).
This applies to all forms of sexual contact, not just intercourse, and so I avoid it.
Okay, what exactly classifies as "asexual"? Because I'm starting to wonder about myself now after reading that. Some of that sounds a lot like me.
...Minus the bit in the spoiler box, because...well...*cough*
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easiest way to describe it is a lack of sexual attraction, interest in sex, or sexual orientation.RoboRed wrote:Ice Crystal wrote:
I very rarely desire companionship, and am quite content being alone 99% of the time (not including friends and family, including them I'm happy to be alone about 70% of the time). Of course there are those times that I wish I had someone to be close to, most commonly on my days of deep depression, but other than that I tend to avoid people that are not direct family or good friends.
I don't flirt at all really unless it's jokingly with a friend who knows I'm just trying to be funny. And as I've said before here, I never even try with strangers, and 90% of my conversations with them are completely business with no small talk of any kind. If they ask a question, I'll answer it and occasionally make a joke, but that's only if I'm in a very VERY good mood.Congrats on learning more about me today
- as for sex...:
I personally hate it, so very much. I find it to be one of the most disgusting things two people can do, and the couple times I have tried it, I didn't enjoy it at all and felt like the shittiest person in the world after the fact (which is probably bad considering I was actually dating the person I tried with...the times after that I was just doing it because she wanted to and she initiated).
This applies to all forms of sexual contact, not just intercourse, and so I avoid it.
Okay, what exactly classifies as "asexual". Because I'm starting to wonder about myself now after reading that. Some of that sounds a lot like me.
...Minus the bit in the spoiler box, because...well...*cough*
The top part is mostly just me: Anti-social, uncaring asshole.
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Kippershy wrote:Evolution is as much about removing the weak as it is continuing the strong. What better a way then to push asexuality onto the ones who will accept it? I mean, I have respect for it, but in a biological sense it's 'weak'.
Are you trying to say that in the future most people might be asexual because of evolution, or the very opposite?
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Ice Crystal wrote:Kippershy wrote:
I swing between not giving a fuck and somewhat giving a fuck.
Flirting is something I'll do no matter what - its fun, free, relaxing and good socialising.
Companionship is something I do desire almost always - though I do like my personal space and do live happily alone, having someone to confide in and to provide for / be the best I can be for to make them happy is something I very much enjoy.
It's not about me so much as it is about giving myself to someone else, making them happy and like I say - being the very best I can be for them.
Sex... eh. I mean, I haven't had any since my operation back in January so it's gonna be different, no doubt - but still, doesn't bother me that much unless
- Spoiler:
the lass in question is wearing a French Maid Outfit. OOFT. FUCKING OOFT.
I very rarely desire companionship, and am quite content being alone 99% of the time (not including friends and family, including them I'm happy to be alone about 70% of the time). Of course there are those times that I wish I had someone to be close to, most commonly on my days of deep depression, but other than that I tend to avoid people that are not direct family or good friends.
I don't flirt at all really unless it's jokingly with a friend who knows I'm just trying to be funny. And as I've said before here, I never even try with strangers, and 90% of my conversations with them are completely business with no small talk of any kind. If they ask a question, I'll answer it and occasionally make a joke, but that's only if I'm in a very VERY good mood.Congrats on learning more about me today
- as for sex...:
I personally hate it, so very much. I find it to be one of the most disgusting things two people can do, and the couple times I have tried it, I didn't enjoy it at all and felt like the shittiest person in the world after the fact (which is probably bad considering I was actually dating the person I tried with...the times after that I was just doing it because she wanted to and she initiated).
This applies to all forms of sexual contact, not just intercourse, and so I avoid it.
Huh. Interesting.
I mean, when I'm fucked out of my mind on shrooms, I find it fucking weird that anyone would allow another person to insert a piece of themselves inside of them, but when I'm sober it seems normal as anything.
ha, reminds me of the time my at the time girlfriend tried to get me to fuck her while I was on shrooms. I told her "fuck off I'm having a good time."
Seriously though - was you given an upbringing where you were told it was dirty/wrong/nasty, or is it not that?
As for the whole communication thing; you sound like a friend of mine. God he's fucking annoying.
Same guy who I was venting about the other day with his whole "stress" issue.
Flirting for me, most of the time, isn't serious. it's just something fun.
There's a lass at work who I flirt with for a laugh and nothing more - she's taken now but we still do it because we both know that it'll lead nowhere and neither of us mind the laugh.
There's another lass who I'm damned sure is into me with the way she is CONSTANTLY smiling at me, laughing at anything I say, hangs on to my every word and hangs around where I am if she can get away with it.
Flirting with her is even more fun and it's tempting to push my luck, perhaps.
Anyway. flirting is god damned fun.
Look at me and Kim for example - the way we joke together is hilarious for us and for anyone else who reads it. doesn't hurt anyone and keeps a good, happy vibe going.
I live alone and don't find that any trouble, I pick my friends and choose who I'm actively going to seek out to talk to, but companionship is always lovely if it's with the right person and there's mutual respect.
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I'm pretty sure that asexuals aren't the weakest of humanity, and even if they were there's no way that that trait could be linked by evolution to any other undesirable trait. It may be beneficial to the species overall, given that we're on our way to maxing out the earth's population (like how ants evolve to have a few breeders and a horde of workers and warriors who never reproduce), but if you think evolution can just "turn off" people with undesirable traits, you don't understand the word.Kippershy wrote:Find me a better word and I'll use it - but right now, it's exactly what I mean.
The part outside the box is just classic introversion. Some people thrive on social contact and meeting new people, others prefer to stay alone or with the company of a few close friends.RoboRed wrote:Okay, what exactly classifies as "asexual"? Because I'm starting to wonder about myself now after reading that. Some of that sounds a lot like me.
...Minus the bit in the spoiler box, because...well...*cough*
All asexuality means is that you are not sexually attracted to anybody. Just like a gay man is not physically attracted to women, and a straight man is not physically attracted to men, an asexual man is attracted to neither.
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WaffleSmart wrote:Kippershy wrote:Evolution is as much about removing the weak as it is continuing the strong. What better a way then to push asexuality onto the ones who will accept it? I mean, I have respect for it, but in a biological sense it's 'weak'.
Are you trying to say that in the future most people might be asexual because of evolution, or the very opposite?
Most? Not so much. An increasing amount of the population? Definitely.
I know it seems against the whole idea of evolution, but if you just consider it as inverse evolution (Yin to the Yang - darkness to the light) it makes sense.
Like I say, some effort to remove the weakest of everything helps out the effort to progress the strongest of everything by making it more dominant and noticeable.
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I'll admit to that. Though since I know I'll never follow through and I want to avoid hurt feelings from potentially leading anybody on, I stick to people I know won't be interested (heterosexuals of the same gender, homosexuals of the opposite). Besides, it's hilarious to see the reactions of some straight people to sudden flirtation by the same sex. Dies that make me a bad person?Kippershy wrote:Anyway. flirting is god damned fun.
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So are you saying that assexuals are "stronger" than "normal" people?Kippershy wrote:Most? Not so much. An increasing amount of the population? Definitely.
I know it seems against the whole idea of evolution, but if you just consider it as inverse evolution (Yin to the Yang - darkness to the light) it makes sense.
Like I say, some effort to remove the weakest of everything helps out the effort to progress the strongest of everything by making it more dominant and noticeable.
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Sindri wrote:I'm pretty sure that asexuals aren't the weakest of humanity, and even if they were there's no way that that trait could be linked by evolution to any other undesirable trait. It may be beneficial to the species overall, given that we're on our way to maxing out the earth's population (like how ants evolve to have a few breeders and a horde of workers and warriors who never reproduce), but if you think evolution can just "turn off" people with undesirable traits, you don't understand the word.Kippershy wrote:Find me a better word and I'll use it - but right now, it's exactly what I mean.
Of course I don't think it just 'turns off' people - that would be stupid.
It can however influence people either through hereditary desires (or lack thereof) or through social circumstances shaping the person in question.
Nor am I trying to argue that asexual people are weak gene wise - but they are on a biological level when it comes to continuing bloodlines.
If you don't even want to have sex, you biologically don't want to have children (taking sperm/egg donation out of the question here) and thus are 'weakest' of all in that sense.
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Okay, you're definitely misunderstanding the concept. Evolution is the process through which traits that increase the chance of reproducing become more common, and traits that decrease the chance of reproducing become less common. No more, no less. Evolution isn't some force or intelligence, it doesn't have goals or memory or move toward something, it's just the result of probability variations leading to different chances of a given trait appearing in the next generation.Kippershy wrote:Most? Not so much. An increasing amount of the population? Definitely.
I know it seems against the whole idea of evolution, but if you just consider it as inverse evolution (Yin to the Yang - darkness to the light) it makes sense.
Like I say, some effort to remove the weakest of everything helps out the effort to progress the strongest of everything by making it more dominant and noticeable.
Asexuals and homosexuals will probably not reproduce, and therefore will probably not pass their traits on to the next generation. That doesn't mean that those traits were weaker or inferior, it just means that they decreased the chances of reproduction.
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Sindri wrote:Okay, you're definitely misunderstanding the concept. Evolution is the process through which traits that increase the chance of reproducing become more common, and traits that decrease the chance of reproducing become less common. No more, no less. Evolution isn't some force or intelligence, it doesn't have goals or memory or move toward something, it's just the result of probability variations leading to different chances of a given trait appearing in the next generation.Kippershy wrote:Most? Not so much. An increasing amount of the population? Definitely.
I know it seems against the whole idea of evolution, but if you just consider it as inverse evolution (Yin to the Yang - darkness to the light) it makes sense.
Like I say, some effort to remove the weakest of everything helps out the effort to progress the strongest of everything by making it more dominant and noticeable.
...you're not even reading the previous posts I've made, are you?
I've stated it's not some intelligent design. I wont even bother now because otherwise I'll either go in circles or get pissed at you, especially as it's coming up to midnight and I've been up since 5am and only eaten one thing through the entire day.
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Nope, my upbringing was that "If you find the right person then it's good to do".Kippershy wrote:
Huh. Interesting.
I mean, when I'm fucked out of my mind on shrooms, I find it fucking weird that anyone would allow another person to insert a piece of themselves inside of them, but when I'm sober it seems normal as anything.
ha, reminds me of the time my at the time girlfriend tried to get me to fuck her while I was on shrooms. I told her "fuck off I'm having a good time."
Seriously though - was you given an upbringing where you were told it was dirty/wrong/nasty, or is it not that?
As for the whole communication thing; you sound like a friend of mine. God he's fucking annoying.
Same guy who I was venting about the other day with his whole "stress" issue.
Flirting for me, most of the time, isn't serious. it's just something fun.
There's a lass at work who I flirt with for a laugh and nothing more - she's taken now but we still do it because we both know that it'll lead nowhere and neither of us mind the laugh.
There's another lass who I'm damned sure is into me with the way she is CONSTANTLY smiling at me, laughing at anything I say, hangs on to my every word and hangs around where I am if she can get away with it.
Flirting with her is even more fun and it's tempting to push my luck, perhaps.
Anyway. flirting is god damned fun.
Look at me and Kim for example - the way we joke together is hilarious for us and for anyone else who reads it. doesn't hurt anyone and keeps a good, happy vibe going.
I live alone and don't find that any trouble, I pick my friends and choose who I'm actively going to seek out to talk to, but companionship is always lovely if it's with the right person and there's mutual respect.
The reason I hate it is because I just find that area on either gender to be disgusting (Gonna skip elaboration on that) and super unsanitary.
I don't mind seeing others flirt, I actually find it very funny and make them uncomfortable with my laughter. I personally just don't do it.
Also, you sound hilarious on shrooms XD
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ExactlySindri wrote:
Okay, you're definitely misunderstanding the concept. Evolution is the process through which traits that increase the chance of reproducing become more common, and traits that decrease the chance of reproducing become less common. No more, no less. Evolution isn't some force or intelligence, it doesn't have goals or memory or move toward something, it's just the result of probability variations leading to different chances of a given trait appearing in the next generation.
Perhaps we are headed for the way of social insects and we are in the process of generating a third neuter gender who cares only for advancement of the tribe rather than reproduction. Perhaps it's just because the set of gens that produces asexuality is temporarily becoming more successful as more and more first world countries are not running by survival of the fittest standards but instead by whatever our social normals push as useful or ideal.
At the end of the day the only thing Evolution cares about is ability to compete and reproduce in your environment. As we have advanced as a species to the point at which we are strong enough and intelligent enough to start modifying our environment to suit us you start seeing other traits other than hunter/gatherer traits becoming useful. Intelligence is a big one, on average over the past three the human race has gone up a few IQ points. The average is still 100 but what 100 means has advanced as the number of things you needed to know has dramatically increased. If you took a peseant from the 13th century and dropped them in the 6th century they could get by just fine, but take that same Pesant and drop them in the 19th century and they would be lost as they try and deal with all the advances and the lack of Sunday Witch burnings.
Again the only thing Evolution cares about is your ability to thrive in your environment and pass on your genes. It has no future only a present and a past, it's literally making shit up as it goes along.
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Yes, I read your posts. I'm saying that there can be no such thing as "inverse evolution," that evolution will never lead to increased probability of not reproducing by its very nature, and that reinforcing the "strong" and removing the "weak" are the exact same thing, if you define those strictly in terms of chance of reproducing, and evolution does nothing else. You're acting like evolution is some force, and that the opposition to it is causing more people to be born asexual, and that has no basis in... anything.Kippershy wrote:Sindri wrote:Okay, you're definitely misunderstanding the concept. Evolution is the process through which traits that increase the chance of reproducing become more common, and traits that decrease the chance of reproducing become less common. No more, no less. Evolution isn't some force or intelligence, it doesn't have goals or memory or move toward something, it's just the result of probability variations leading to different chances of a given trait appearing in the next generation.Kippershy wrote:Most? Not so much. An increasing amount of the population? Definitely.
I know it seems against the whole idea of evolution, but if you just consider it as inverse evolution (Yin to the Yang - darkness to the light) it makes sense.
Like I say, some effort to remove the weakest of everything helps out the effort to progress the strongest of everything by making it more dominant and noticeable.
...you're not even reading the previous posts I've made, are you?
I've stated it's not some intelligent design. I wont even bother now because otherwise I'll either go in circles or get pissed at you, especially as it's coming up to midnight and I've been up since 5am and only eaten one thing through the entire day.
I apologize if I appear to be getting overexcited over this, or if I offend anyone, but so many people these days are completely wrong about evolution and use their misconceptions to justify everything from anti-education campaigns to bigotry to bloody genocide, so I feel compelled to correct such falsehoods wherever I think I find them.
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Ice Crystal wrote:Nope, my upbringing was that "If you find the right person then it's good to do".Kippershy wrote:
Huh. Interesting.
I mean, when I'm fucked out of my mind on shrooms, I find it fucking weird that anyone would allow another person to insert a piece of themselves inside of them, but when I'm sober it seems normal as anything.
ha, reminds me of the time my at the time girlfriend tried to get me to fuck her while I was on shrooms. I told her "fuck off I'm having a good time."
Seriously though - was you given an upbringing where you were told it was dirty/wrong/nasty, or is it not that?
As for the whole communication thing; you sound like a friend of mine. God he's fucking annoying.
Same guy who I was venting about the other day with his whole "stress" issue.
Flirting for me, most of the time, isn't serious. it's just something fun.
There's a lass at work who I flirt with for a laugh and nothing more - she's taken now but we still do it because we both know that it'll lead nowhere and neither of us mind the laugh.
There's another lass who I'm damned sure is into me with the way she is CONSTANTLY smiling at me, laughing at anything I say, hangs on to my every word and hangs around where I am if she can get away with it.
Flirting with her is even more fun and it's tempting to push my luck, perhaps.
Anyway. flirting is god damned fun.
Look at me and Kim for example - the way we joke together is hilarious for us and for anyone else who reads it. doesn't hurt anyone and keeps a good, happy vibe going.
I live alone and don't find that any trouble, I pick my friends and choose who I'm actively going to seek out to talk to, but companionship is always lovely if it's with the right person and there's mutual respect.
The reason I hate it is because I just find that area on either gender to be disgusting (Gonna skip elaboration on that) and super unsanitary.
I don't mind seeing others flirt, I actually find it very funny and make them uncomfortable with my laughter. I personally just don't do it.
Also, you sound hilarious on shrooms XD
Did you ever read the google docs thing I posted a while back? about the 'lisards' and the 'through you the dinosaurs roam'?
which reminds me:
https://cloudsville.rpg-board.net/t576-shrooooooooms#25089
Shroom thread - in preparation for tomorrow.
I'll record what I can and have a video recording, for as much as possible.
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Kippershy wrote:
Kip, what is it that makes you think that Asexuality is trending right now? And I don't understand how asexuality could be caused by evolution, because evolution is basically the species that is able to survive and procreate the most efficiently coming out on top. Asexual people are hardly able to procreate, how could they pass down their genetic code to their offspring if they don't have offspring?
EDIT: This guy really helped me with understanding how evolution works, you might want to check it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjgWov7mTM
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I did, and it was hilarious :DKippershy wrote:
Did you ever read the google docs thing I posted a while back? about the 'lisards' and the 'through you the dinosaurs roam'?
which reminds me:
https://cloudsville.rpg-board.net/t576-shrooooooooms#25089
Shroom thread - in preparation for tomorrow.
I'll record what I can and have a video recording, for as much as possible.
And I will be reading that thread upon waking up tomorrow XD
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Sindri wrote:Yes, I read your posts. I'm saying that there can be no such thing as "inverse evolution," that evolution will never lead to increased probability of not reproducing by its very nature, and that reinforcing the "strong" and removing the "weak" are the exact same thing, if you define those strictly in terms of chance of reproducing, and evolution does nothing else. You're acting like evolution is some force, and that the opposition to it is causing more people to be born asexual, and that has no basis in... anything.Kippershy wrote:Sindri wrote:Okay, you're definitely misunderstanding the concept. Evolution is the process through which traits that increase the chance of reproducing become more common, and traits that decrease the chance of reproducing become less common. No more, no less. Evolution isn't some force or intelligence, it doesn't have goals or memory or move toward something, it's just the result of probability variations leading to different chances of a given trait appearing in the next generation.Kippershy wrote:Most? Not so much. An increasing amount of the population? Definitely.
I know it seems against the whole idea of evolution, but if you just consider it as inverse evolution (Yin to the Yang - darkness to the light) it makes sense.
Like I say, some effort to remove the weakest of everything helps out the effort to progress the strongest of everything by making it more dominant and noticeable.
...you're not even reading the previous posts I've made, are you?
I've stated it's not some intelligent design. I wont even bother now because otherwise I'll either go in circles or get pissed at you, especially as it's coming up to midnight and I've been up since 5am and only eaten one thing through the entire day.
I apologize if I appear to be getting overexcited over this, or if I offend anyone, but so many people these days are completely wrong about evolution and use their misconceptions to justify everything from anti-education campaigns to bigotry to bloody genocide, so I feel compelled to correct such falsehoods wherever I think I find them.
Nah nah nah - the reason I'm getting cranky is because I know I'm not making any sense to you, but to me, it's making perfect sense because despite my wording being crappy as fuck, I know exactly what evolution is and how it works (despite how it seems to you) and I know there's no such thing as 'inverse evolution' but that's me trying to explain my train of thought.
I find it frustrating as fuck when people can't understand what I'm going on about, especially when I know that if I just knew how to clarify what I meant better, people would go OH - I GET YOU.
I'm not trying to say that evolution is a thing in itself, controlling people - but its a collective trend for which we have named to make it easy to explain.
I know some of my thought pattern is flawed, but if you could just see it in the same light as me, you'd understand I'm looking at it from more then the simple biological angle but also the multiple societal and chemical angles too.
Augh. Just trying to explain myself now is bad enough.
Like I say - I know evolution isn't a force, but I'm using the term evolution as a blanket term for all the different aspects that cover what makes a species change over time (as it should be.)
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WaffleSmart wrote:Kippershy wrote:
Kip, what is it that makes you think that Asexuality is trending right now? And I don't understand how asexuality could be caused by evolution, because evolution is basically the species that is able to survive and procreate the most efficiently coming out on top. Asexual people are hardly able to procreate, how could they pass down their genetic code to their offspring if they don't have offspring?
to cut this down short - think of evolution not as evolution, but as societal pressure.
Too many people on the planet? Don't want as many, if any, children. (a very real response. myself included)
Too many stupid people on the planet? Same response.
Feel that you aren't worthy of having a child because your genes? No child.
Feel that the world is too shit to bring a child into? No child.
These four examples are very limited and admittedly all very much alike, but still are very valid.
Society can pressure someone into not having children - and that's not just one person, its hundreds of thousands of people, millions perhaps? I don't know.
That sets a small trend, all the same.
Then there's population density which as mentioned, has affected people in Japan and made them statistically more likely to be asexual.
Higher density encourages less children because less space to share out between them, and also possibly overloads some other reasons.
I'm too tired to go into full detail of my thought patterns right now, but you want, message me and I'll answer it when I'm not fucked up after tomorrow or something.
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Just asking, but what is it called when you cannot love people? Because I can't/don't love anyone.
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@Silentcarto So Psalm tried to save them, got carted off, thinking it would get better, and then everything went to heck?
Any guesses for the remaining passwords?
Also, do ya think the starmetal sword is ever going to get a name?
Any guesses for the remaining passwords?
Also, do ya think the starmetal sword is ever going to get a name?
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