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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.
People go to war over the silliest reasons
Some are legitimate, but nowadays, it's whatever pisses the most people off
Some are legitimate, but nowadays, it's whatever pisses the most people off
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Well, look at our current wars. First it was Afghanistan, the public was okay with it because we wanted revenge. Then iraq, that was partly the government telling us we had to and the general public just assumed they were the same bad guys (of course there's the whole oil angle, but that's got more to do with the oil companies than the public). And now there's ISIS, which is getting support because they basically are what the government told us Al Qaeda was.Vinylshadow wrote:People go to war over the silliest reasons
Some are legitimate, but nowadays, it's whatever pisses the most people off
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The greatest threats are always the ones closest to home
"Hm, the Government says they're the bad guys? That makes the bad guys my heroes"
"Hm, the Government says they're the bad guys? That makes the bad guys my heroes"
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I can elect to see his posts. I was curious to see what was so important as to lure him back to where he clearly isn't wanted. I shouldn't be surprised that it was nothing of any point whatsoever.Tytan wrote:Hang on, I thought you black listed Vinyl.
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"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Does that make more sense?
Does that make more sense?
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Ah fair enough. I've never really messed around with the black list.Mister Frost wrote:I can elect to see his posts. I was curious to see what was so important as to lure him back to where he clearly isn't wanted. I shouldn't be surprised that it was nothing of any point whatsoever.Tytan wrote:Hang on, I thought you black listed Vinyl.
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Feel free to go link up with ISIS, then. I'd say I'd be seeing you soon, but I get the feeling you'd sooner quit while you were ahead.Vinylshadow wrote:The greatest threats are always the ones closest to home
"Hm, the Government says they're the bad guys? That makes the bad guys my heroes"
Get it.
Ahead.
Because they behead people.
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If that's not clear enough, I mean your 'heroes' would murder you as they're currently murdering thousands of other innocent people.
You ignorant sack of shit.
You ignorant sack of shit.
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I'm beginning to see the appeal of the list.
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Well, I disagree regarding the anarchism (I don't have a problem with anarchosocialism and anarchocommunism while they're active, but I think that, like any anarchist system, they're unstable and at risk of collapsing into something more authoritarian (or just being conquered by an external power). It makes more sense to me to try and structure a good authoritarian system from the start and reduce the risk of a "that crazy guy seized all the power and set up a corrupt dictatorship" scenario. Corruption is still the big problem, though, and one that I'm not entirely sure how to solve. Though... Hm. Nah. Detroit's a relatively small area and might even be able to manage Kowloon-Walled-City-style infrastructure, but any Detroit Commune would probably have to bring everything it had to bear to resist being reconquered by the United States; that includes organization. There's also the problem of food, and raw materials in general. Trade with Canada would solve that, but it would be tricky to set up. The quickest solution would probably be seizing farmland surrounding the city, but that would upset the USA even more and require that the territory be held, including against a scorched earth strategy. In the longer term, unused land in the city could be converted to urban farming of various sorts (vertical farms would be most efficient, but they'd also take a lot more resources to set up and be vulnerable to attack). A tricky problem...), but I'm with you on the rest. Of course, there's the problem of the innocent workers in those facilities; any such movement would be damaged by attacking the proletariat, and the elite present much smaller and more hardened targets.Harmony Ltd. wrote:My inner anarcho-communist feels that if it isn't going to lead to terrorism, then it ought to.O. Hinds wrote:You're only just hearing about this? Well, I suppose it took time for the news to get overseas. Yep. Though I've heard that the people who really weren't paying were some big companies with water bills in the millions.Harmony Ltd. wrote:This is how terrorism is born: http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29185710
The idea of it really leading to terrorism hadn't occurred to me, though. A full revolution still doesn't seem likely, however.
But of course in no way would I condone anyone detonating a bank, insurance or utility company headquarter or any other symbol of capitalist oppression.
No sir. Not at all. That would be bad.
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Hey guys, how are---What did I walked up into?
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It makes you seem like less of an anarchist shit head, but as far as sense, not really. I mean, do you mean ISIS is our enemy so the government is our friend?Vinylshadow wrote:"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Does that make more sense?
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Islam gives me a headache, far too many conflicting beliefs so screw it, I am not touching ISIS/ISIL
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@Hinds: Our Corsican independentist have their way around that: wait for the night for the buildings to be people free, then do it.
Doesn't kill anyone (hopefully) and sends a message.
As for the anarchy thing, well, I don't believe the people would be able to handle it, but I still like to see it as a worthy ideal, people freely cooperating with each others as equal instead of being coerced by an higher authority.
I kinda see it as the logical extension of the marxist thought. Though I may be mistaken, not having read the damned thing.
Doesn't kill anyone (hopefully) and sends a message.
As for the anarchy thing, well, I don't believe the people would be able to handle it, but I still like to see it as a worthy ideal, people freely cooperating with each others as equal instead of being coerced by an higher authority.
I kinda see it as the logical extension of the marxist thought. Though I may be mistaken, not having read the damned thing.
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Islam is not ISIS / Al-qaeda, terrorism, etc.
The same way that Christianity isn't blowing up abortion clinics or being jew genociding the palestinians.
Please try to get an education before starting to spout bullshit.
The same way that Christianity isn't blowing up abortion clinics or being jew genociding the palestinians.
Please try to get an education before starting to spout bullshit.
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You're talking about people who've sworn to tear down Western civilization and still managed to be racist and ignorant.Vinylshadow wrote:Islam gives me a headache, far too many conflicting beliefs so screw it, I am not touching ISIS/ISIL
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Ah. I'd still worry about the night janitors and such, but with so few people, some sort of "You have x seconds to get out of the building" warning would work.Harmony Ltd. wrote:@Hinds: Our Corsican independentist have their way around that: wait for the night for the buildings to be people free, then do it.
Doesn't kill anyone (hopefully) and sends a message.
Other targets might include the surplus houses of the super-rich.
Also, I didn't know that there was a Corsican independence movement. Huh.
It would be nice, yes, but, as you say, even if most people could handle it, it would still only take a few to ruin it for everyone.Harmony Ltd. wrote:As for the anarchy thing, well, I don't believe the people would be able to handle it, but I still like to see it as a worthy idea, people freely cooperating with each others as equal instead of being coerced by an higher authority.
That sounds right to me, at least.Harmony Ltd. wrote:I kinda see it as the logical extension of the marxist thought. Though I may be mistaken, not having read the damned thing.
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Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
They seem wonderfully gung-ho about attaching it to their name though
They seem wonderfully gung-ho about attaching it to their name though
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Aye. Basically, my issues with anarchism are the same as with marxism and unbridled free-market economics, in that it looks great from a theoretical standpoint, but in a real world setting, it would be approximately 2.34 seconds before someone shat in the swimming pool.Harmony Ltd. wrote:
As for the anarchy thing, well, I don't believe the people would be able to handle it, but I still like to see it as a worthy ideal, people freely cooperating with each others as equal instead of being coerced by an higher authority.
I kinda see it as the logical extension of the marxist thought. Though I may be mistaken, not having read the damned thing.
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You could say the same thing about the Westboro Baptist Church. Doesn't mean they represent all baptists.Vinylshadow wrote:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
They seem wonderfully gung-ho about attaching it to their name though
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I'm a white American, it doesn't mean I'm a member of the KKK.Vinylshadow wrote:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
They seem wonderfully gung-ho about attaching it to their name though
Sexual harassment, religious intolerance....I'm trying to think of ways you could be a more repulsive human being, and I'm not coming up with much.
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@Hinds, RE Corsican independentists: well, actually it's more akin to a mob justifying its existence and its various racket business through the "cause" than a real independence movement.
Kinda like ETA in its last decades (the Basque independence party armed wing, operating both in France and Spain).
Kinda like ETA in its last decades (the Basque independence party armed wing, operating both in France and Spain).
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Oh, one of those.
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A Mafia, really.
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It's Religious Indifference, actually
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Anything else I say on the topic is only going to piss someone off even more, so I'll refrain from doing so~
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Anything else I say on the topic is only going to piss someone off even more, so I'll refrain from doing so~
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I was raised Baptist (of the more unpleasant Fundy type) and even they don't even come close to those chucklefucks.swicked wrote:For the record, I'm Baptist, so yeah... no. They do not.stringtheory wrote:You could say the same thing about the Westboro Baptist Church. Doesn't mean they represent all baptists.Vinylshadow wrote:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
They seem wonderfully gung-ho about attaching it to their name though
In the same vein, Islam, no matter your opinions on the religion or the nations with the religion established, is not composed entirely of head-taking fanatics.
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I've been United Methodist, Reformed Fellowship and Jewish
I have also been Baptized a number of times
It's a wonder I haven't burst into flames
Give me calm rational people with moderate religious beliefs over their radical nutcase counterparts; the latter are only good for a good laugh every once in a while
Hit me with the Holy texts again and we'll see if people really can eat their own words
I have also been Baptized a number of times
It's a wonder I haven't burst into flames
Give me calm rational people with moderate religious beliefs over their radical nutcase counterparts; the latter are only good for a good laugh every once in a while
Hit me with the Holy texts again and we'll see if people really can eat their own words
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I have one on the bed right beside me seriously arguing for the genocide of all muslims, so, you know...
And I have that other catholic fundamentalist colleague, anti-abortion and also probably an actual nazi.
Plus a large number of my colleague who are living embodiment of rape culture.
And, let's not forget my one "friend" who doesn't see anything wrong with lynching gay people.
*murder fantasies intensify*
And I have that other catholic fundamentalist colleague, anti-abortion and also probably an actual nazi.
Plus a large number of my colleague who are living embodiment of rape culture.
And, let's not forget my one "friend" who doesn't see anything wrong with lynching gay people.
*murder fantasies intensify*
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- A word to the wise:
- 'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
'You must be,' said the Cat, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'
I don't think Genocide is the answer we're looking for
Come now, feel free to murder me in your dreams
It's nice to know people are thinking of me
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