Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

sigh, I... am so disappointed, personal responsibility does not exist unless you do wrong, sure you're all keen on telling others what good for 'em and going out of your way to ensure morality for the whole of the citizenry, but by golly you break the law its your fault, well why didn't the government make it so i couldn't break the law in the first place? the only way to do that is to do away with law in the first place. its a stupid circular logic...

[Harmony Ltd.]

Pfffffffffft hahaha. This is the biggest load of bollocks I've heard in a bit out of a first-ish world country. I am not for a hands-off government, really, but how d'you look at this and not think, "The nanniest of nanny states strikes again."

Call me cynical, but I'd say this is just a pretext for the Tories to try to introduce the idea in the common psyche of filtering the internet for the common good. With the long term goal of making acceptable to the public to further and further extend this form of censorship to other subjects.


The impression I got from the 6 days I spent in London a few years ago was how policed the British society is, in a twisted way. What left the deepest impression on me was that there was pretty much everywhere you looked signs telling you not what you were forbidden to do, but what you were expected to do. It was... well, it left me the impression that the good Briton is expected to mindlessly do as he's told.

I dunno, it might just be a cultural difference, but I found that disturbing. And gave me a better understanding of the creative process that went behind Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and the roots of the Punk movement.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Just to explain :

I heard strangers who come to France sometimes complain about how there's interdiction signs everywhere, on various subjects. it's simply because the idea in our culture is that as long as it's not expressly forbidden, it's at least tolerated. On the other hand, during these six days with my sister in London, we remarked that there was almost no interdiction signs anywhere, but that on the other hand there was in their place signs that said "do this" or "do that". That basically, they replaced interdictions with obligations.

[Moodyman90]

Reminds me of the "video nasties" when they where banning when they was banning movies. Some where justified if you're against horror movies but they'd ban anything with certain buzz words like Blood and Evil.

[Harmony Ltd.]

So they banned "The Ten Commandments" and "The Greatest Story Ever Told" ? Consider me sold !

[Frost]

I really can't speak for the culture in Britain, but..... Over here, one can't really expect criminals to follow the law. Criminals pack heat into gun-free zones. Criminals grow or synthesize banned substances in their basement. Going back a ways, criminals distill alcohol when it's illegal. All that's accomplished by banning or restricting things that aren't inherently harmful is that you indirectly help whatever enterprising shithead that wants to make some money under the table

[Kattlarv]

BTW, got back from watching Pacific Rim.

It was awesome. 

also, swickedbait:

Heard that movie is supposed to be good and innovative.
... also is it bad that I expected "another type" of "rabbit"? xD

@O.Hinds: 

Reply:

(Link) Erf, I asked before, and someone told me to just post/link it... can remove it if needed though.

("Access") I've managed to convince some poor souls to draw for me to animate xP

@Stone: You read the entire thing? And welp, not like there's overly much point to it in PH either so... xP But tbh, would have wished I could have incorporated more proper and actual story in that. It lacks a point as said. And this point isn't beside the mountain.

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On a side note, technically the stallions doesn't even have a logical reason to be raping, as if going animal wise, the only reason they even get aroused is when mares are in heat, and they themselves are horny. So... the current version that only stallions got a sex drive and can't control themselves, while mares got no sex drive, apart from wanting to pleasure males, really makes no sense.

[Harmony Ltd.]

@ Frost : I get the idea, but I mean more mundane interdictions, like those signs you see in the street. You know, the rules about how to share a common space, not the ones about more serious things.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Music thingy :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpYgpF1bqQ

=> BJ, Glory, P-21, Scotch, Rampage, Lacunae and Boo  

lyrics:

[Harmony Ltd.]

Also :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU9faERbno0

 

[Frost]

@ Frost : I get the idea, but I mean more mundane interdictions, like those signs you see in the street. You know, the rules about how to share a common space, not the ones about more serious things.

 I was speaking more on the general issue at hand, censorship of teh tittehz.

[Frost]

Given the discussions regarding gender roles that have sporadically populated the thread the last few days, as well as the video's own vague chuckle-inducing properties, this seemed to be of tangiental relevance

[Harmony Ltd.]

From The Daily Mail

[Kippershy]

Guess who will be opting out of that the second he can?

[Harmony Ltd.]

Holy shit, a lightning bolt just fell right out of the house (light / sound delay : a fraction of a second)

[Harmony Ltd.]

Well, at worst it will be, what, four hours spent sited on a stadium seat ? No biggy.  

[Harmony Ltd.]

My sister is currently doing a post-doctorate at Gainesville, in Florida.

They have a stadium there of more than 80,000 seats for their university football team (The Gators). It's bigger than the Stade de France, and it's full every match during the season.

I think this may give a partial answer to your question.

[Frost]

Not expecting anyone to commiserate, but just... why? Why is it assumed everyone likes watching sports? Is there really that sizable a population that those that do not are practically non-existent?

 Given that my reaction to being invited to watch a sports game is an exaggerated "Nyaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh......", I'm inclined to agree with you

[Frost]

Robo/Iron lulz:

[Derpmind]

Is there really that sizable a population that those that do not are practically non-existent?

There's certainly the perception in popular culture that everyone likes sports.

I can enjoy it occasionally, but I don't watch sports that often, not after being in a high school marching band (Tuba/Sousaphone, before you think to ask) playing for a football team that lost absolutely every single game for every year I was there. (That's American Football, or Handegg if you're French.)

[Valikdu]

Not expecting anyone to commiserate, but just... why? Why is it assumed everyone likes watching sports? Is there really that sizable a population that those that do not are practically non-existent?

I don't know. I don't watch any, it's boring.

Also, (don't) read this story.

[Moodyman90]

Now, being from the South and southern and all that, I can say that a majority of the population is devoted to some kind of sport. NASCAR, baseball, football, Georgia Highlander games (gotta love the Scottish heritage we have) etc. etc.

Me, I couldn't give two shits about sports. When high schools face budget cuts they'll take chainsaws and sledgehammers to art, music, even agricultural and computer classes, but don't you fucking dare talk about taking a single cent away from the physical education department.

I'm proud to say I only went to one single game of anything sport related when I was in high school, and that was because I went crazy and decided to run for homecoming king and it was mandatory I'd show up for the homecoming game to find out if I won or not.

I didn't, losing out to my former football player cousin.

[StoneSlinger88]

BTW, got back from watching Pacific Rim.

It was awesome. 

also, swickedbait:

Heard that movie is supposed to be good and innovative.
... also is it bad that I expected "another type" of "rabbit"? xD

@O.Hinds: 

snip:

(Link) Erf, I asked before, and someone told me to just post/link it... can remove it if needed though.

("Access") I've managed to convince some poor souls to draw for me to animate xP

@Stone: You read the entire thing? And welp, not like there's overly much point to it in PH either so... xP But tbh, would have wished I could have incorporated more proper and actual story in that. It lacks a point as said. And this point isn't beside the mountain.

Reply:

On a side note, technically the stallions doesn't even have a logical reason to be raping, as if going animal wise, the only reason they even get aroused is when mares are in heat, and they themselves are horny. So... the current version that only stallions got a sex drive and can't control themselves, while mares got no sex drive, apart from wanting to pleasure males, really makes no sense.

 

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I have my favorite teams if they're playing. I might watch some games, especially the playoffs, but I don't usually make it a routine. The only sport I do care about is air racing, and that's rarely on.

[Ironmonger]

[Guest]

@ Enclave heat policies:

[Valikdu]

NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/119190/fallout-equestria

[Harmony Ltd.]

Just to explain :

I heard strangers who come to France sometimes complain about how there's interdiction signs everywhere, on various subjects. it's simply because the idea in our culture is that as long as it's not expressly forbidden, it's at least tolerated. On the other hand, during these six days with my sister in London, we remarked that there was almost no interdiction signs anywhere, but that on the other hand there was in their place signs that said "do this" or "do that". That basically, they replaced interdictions with obligations.

...mind elaborating on these signs?
In the USA we have pretty basic ones... No smoking, no pets, no diving in foot-deep pools, etc.
My brother lived with a family in France (I dunno where in) for a while and doesn't remember an abundance of signs.
Additionally, what is this about obligation signs in Britain? I know they're pretty crazy about censorship and free speech, but I know next to nothing specific about it.

Ack. Well, I really don't know how to explain that, it's more of a subtle feeling than something that's in your face - easy to miss, but once you start paying attention you begin to see the difference. But yeah, here it's also pretty basic stuff, but, without going overboard, we tend to go a bit "captain obvious" at time, in a variety of situations.

For London, well, we saw that mostly from what we experienced, it's to say the public transportation system (metro and bus). It basically boiled down to being instructed throughout our trips to do certain things. It wasn't orders, but the "spirit" it gave (to my sister and me at least) was "do as you're told and everything will go smoothly, 'kay ?".


To explain the cultural shock... French people have a reputation of being somewhat undisciplined. Put another way, the standard reaction to people telling us to do something isn't us doing it but telling the other guy to go to hell.

[Frost]

Well, that explains what happens whenever a French commander says 'attack' or 'hold your ground'

[Ironmonger]

Unrelated: "I'm a demolitionist, and right now you look like a house."

[Harmony Ltd.]

Well, that explains what happens whenever a French commander says 'attack' or 'hold your ground'

*check that berserk button is untouched*

*berserk button is untouched*

AH ! Tu ne briseras pas mon calme vile canaille !

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