Re: Last Fallout New Vegas Run

[Kippershy]

Honest Hearts was definitely the best, IMO.
Mind you, I never really played OWB. It was okay, but I barely touched it..

[Kippershy]

Dead Money is a fucking annoyance because of multiple reasons.

1. You lose all of your gear when you go there. If you're not skilled in guns or melee, you're fucked pretty much.
2. The enemies don't die unless DOG eats them or you rip their limbs off.
3. Fucking speakers man... they kill you within mere seconds if you aren't careful.
4. Doing it on hardcore at all is insanity. There's layers of pink cloud around that will do you damage on normal, but on hardcore you're constantly taking damage even without being in the clouds.
5. Those fucking enemies...

[Harmony Ltd.]

Basically, it's Canterlot.

[Katarn]

Yup. Pretty much that.

And what comes after:
-Ooooh, you're good at guns? Good, cuz you have only 6 more bullets for your shitty revolver and enemies will die only from 5 shots in the head. And don't forget the speakers, save your bullets to destroy ones, that you are allowed to destroy.
-Oooooh, you want sneaky approach with melee weapons? Good for you! Now enemies can see/hear/feel you right behind the walls! Good hunting!
-See that important area full of enemies, speakers and pink clouds? Good. You'll die here more that 50 times, before you could figure out where to go.

[Valikdu]

...any particular reason why dead money is last?

It's the most difficult. Actually, it's Canterlot.
-Red Cloud
-Broadcasters blow your head off
-The ghost people

Although the limb problem isn't too problematic (just cut off something with a knife after they go down). But their thrown weapons are really annoying.

Also, limited supplies. Can't carry anything in (although you're given the best energy rifle at the start, but it's in bad condition and with limited cells).
Also, there's tons of different skill checks. When I went in there I had all the relevant skills leveled, but someone who went in early would have failed a lot of them and probably get pissed off.

[Frost]

Of course, doesn't Bloody Mess help a lot? Because it dismembers?

[Ketchup]

I found Dead Money only moderately difficult. The enemies with super padding that you fight in Old World Blues and Lonesome Road are harder.
One of my favourite weapons in the game hands down is the Police Pistol, up there with the very-OP Survivalist's Rifle.

[O. Hinds]

Really? I never got the police pistol to work very well. Even for characters with 100 Guns, it seemed to be good at missing.

[Moodyman90]

Oh you people hating on Dead Money.

Don't get me wrong, Old World Blues is the best and depending on my mood Honest Hearts or Lonesome Road is second, but I never understood the hate for Dead Money.

Granted I haven't tried it on Hardcore Mode so there's probably a difference there.
I found the Police Pistol decent, the B.A.R.( I know it's not called that in game but it's pretty much a B.A.R.) had limited uses because it chews through bullets.
Never had trouble going one on one with the Ghost People, even with a weak Melee/ Unarmed skill. Throwing Knife Spears and Bear-trap fist are always fun to use.

Only died from the speakers near the end when there's like three our four in the same room. Other then that I didn't have much of a people.

Though I guess I love Dead Money so much because for the most part it suits my play styles. It's always fun to grab a few gold bars as well. Managed to sneak out all of them in one game.

[Ironmonger]

I think my run through Dead Money was on hardcore, along with the difficulty on hard. I got mauled by everything ever, but a lot of spear sniping eventually got me through it.

I'm fuzzy on details, it's been about a year ago.

[Moodyman90]

Other then the multiple speakers within the same room, most problems I had was with the damn hologram security guys. Mainly because no matter what my stealth was, I couldn't help but try to take out the emitters.

[O. Hinds]

Don't get me wrong, Old World Blues is the best and depending on my mood Honest Hearts or Lonesome Road is second, but I never understood the hate for Dead Money.

Interesting; mind elaborating on why you like Lonesome Road so much? I've always felt that it's worse than the other DLC and the base game.

[Moodyman90]

Red Glare mostly. I love that rocket launcher. The final showdown is fun too no matter how it goes in my opinion. Could have done with more exploration and all, and honestly I haven't been able to get any "Independent" options and it's like I'm just stuck with a faction trench coat.

[Harmony Ltd.]

There is an independent version of the duster => http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Courier_duster

[O. Hinds]

Red Glare mostly. I love that rocket launcher. The final showdown is fun too no matter how it goes in my opinion. Could have done with more exploration and all, and honestly I haven't been able to get any "Independent" options and it's like I'm just stuck with a faction trench coat.

Oh, there are some nice items (Elite Riot Gear!), but the setting just seems to me to be... well, pretty bad. The plot, too, though not to quite the same extent. And most of the potential endings aren't very well executed in my opinion. Quite a disappointment after the other DLCs.

[Katarn]

In my last playthrough, right after Honest Hearts, I've dressed up in Joshua's armor, went straight to Caesar. Pulled out A Light Shining in the Darkness and said: 'Joshua sends his best regards.' After that I've unloaded clip in his head. Ofc there is no such dialog option, but I've just imaged that I did said that. After that....well I was glad that I've brought Rex and Cass with me.

[Moodyman90]

Yeah melee and unarmed are pretty hard to do in general, never mind those god damned Cazadores.

I'm convinced that Old World Blues was made just to nerf the bastards. If you spend enough time to kill a certain number of them in Big MT, you get a perk that will give you a damaged bonus of 10% against them, that increased to 20 and then 30%.
That stacks with an Implant( that doesn't count towards the number of Stat implants you can have) so you do up to 40% more damage to Cazadores. And all of those stack with the Entomology Perk and Lord Death.

Finally, if you don't take back your human heart at the end of the DLC, you're immune to all poison.

[Cptadder]

How do you survive as melee?  As a drugged up super bastard.  Get heavy armor, plenty of +DT then pop med-x and psycho and running screaming at the enemy.

[Katarn]

Two words: Ballistic fist.

[O. Hinds]

Yes-man deciding to upgrade his own software to be more assertive, without asking if I wanted him to, was pretty ominous... yet it wasn't reflected in the ending. Maybe one of the DLCs has him going rogue when he comes back online? I dunno.

None of the DLCs go past the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. A playable postgame was planned to be in vanilla, but Obsidian ran out of time and money. Like with so many other things in NV. Such a shame...

Anyway, there has been a lot of speculation about what that line from Yes Man means. One of the devs said that it was just meant to mean that Yes Man would obey the Courier but no one else, but considering that this isn't hinted at in the game while Yes Man going rogue is...

Fun game, though. Now to try out energy weapons, I think.

Fully modded laser rifles are wonderful for sniping. Now, the scope lacks light enhancement and the weapon isn't silenced, but the beam, being a laser, travels in a straight line at lightspeed. Target dusted.
(My current character is an energy weapons build.)

[Moodyman90]

To follow the grand tradition of being able to talk the final boss down. Granted Fallout 3 didn't really let you do that

Fallout 3 Spoilers possible:

, but Fallout 3 also didn't have people from the earlier games working on it.

It's there so as you give you the option of non-violance, reward people who sunk points into Speech, Barter, Science, and whatever other checks you need and didn't focus on combat.

Yeah it probably don't really make a whole lot of sense that you are able to talk your way out of a fight with him, but you also don't have to do that. Personally I usually end up pissing him off before even getting close enough to talk to him and we end up fighting.

[Harmony Ltd.]

I'm still bummed that in New Vegas the game stop with the Hoover Dam Battle / Legate Lanius Faceoff.

I would have liked if there had been the possibility to continue after in the same way it was possible in Fo3 after Broken Steel.

Though given all the various possible endings (NCR / Legion / House / Wild Card), that would have been a lot of additional content to make - portions of the map modified depending on which side you choose, dialogue options depending on what you did (killed or not legate lanius and / or the NCR's general), etc...

[Harmony Ltd.]

however I try

I cannot bring myself to root for the Legion.

I don't like House either.

So it's always either the NCR or myself.

And more often than not, it's the NCR.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Hadn't it already been established by now ?

[Harmony Ltd.]

"By the non-existing powers conferred in me by the Church of Sloth and the State of Apathy, I now pronounce you Polar Opposites.

You may now do whatever, I don't care."

[Harmony Ltd.]

it begins

[jacky2734]

Hey, did you guys know that there is an exploit in the game that allows you to fire mininukes from a minigun? The best part is that it won't even use the Mininukes up, just the 5mm ammo. It also works for any other type of ammo and gun as well.

link to details. it's the last one listed under the weapons section.

[Ironmonger]

There should really be a render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar achievement for killing Legion with their own currency.

There sorta is, but it only applies to Caesar himself, if I remember correctly.

[Moodyman90]

If you have Gun Runner's Assault installed you can do two challenges. One is crippling his head with a thrown spear AKA Even a Godking can bleed.

And one for killing him with a knife a la Julius Caesar.

But like I said, those are Gun Runner Assault Challenges, not actual Achievements.

[O. Hinds]

Turns out you cannot ever tick off the NCR enough for them to shoot you on sight. Very weird. They just start smacktalking you more.

…I'm pretty sure that that's a bug. The times I've player characters against the NCR, they've not been shy about attacking me.

Anyone do a pro-legion playthrough before? Does it ever get as interesting as pro-NCR is, with its mysteries, missions to recover bodies, save captives, lead the enemy into ambushes, etc.?

I'm afraid that there is a lot less to do for the Legion, yeah.

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