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Post by Tytan Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:46 pm

As I've learned there's no point in arguing what happened in the comics, the only canon is what story is being written right now.
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Post by Vinylshadow Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:18 pm

Amen to that
It's nice to get a fresh start on a series

I don't care what people say, The Amazing Spider-Man films were awesome and I'm looking forward to the next four
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Post by Cptadder Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:24 pm

Age of Ultron proves once again my inner 12 year old could not handle this shit. I mean come on, it's not just a new Avengers movie... it's an Avengers move after we had Thor 2, Cap 2, Ironman 3 and Guardians.

It's not only a promise of what's to come but what's to come after that. We are possibly getting Antman, Doctor Strange plus Cap 3, Thor 3, Guardians 2 and all with the promise leadup to Avengers 3.

Unlike say Jason 5 or Friday the 13 part X every single Marvel movie in small and large ways leads into the next one so not only are we promised a great Joss movie but more content to come.

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Post by Moodyman90 Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:00 pm

The thing about the Marvel movies is that even the bad ones can pass for decent movies. It's almost uncanny how they've been able to pull this off for so long.
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Post by Frost Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:23 pm

Man, I still need to get around to seeing Captain America 2. Apparently it was really good, or something. I didn't much care for the first one, so I don't put much stock in that.
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Post by Cptadder Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:54 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:The thing about the Marvel movies is that even the bad ones can pass for decent movies. It's almost uncanny how they've been able to pull this off for so long.
Every Marvel movie since Iron man can claim at least 30 minutes of good movie.
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Post by Frost Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:44 pm

WWII in a nutshell :
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Post by Stringtheory Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:14 am

Finally did a write-up for a universe I've been rolling around in my head:

900 Years in the Future (Best working title off the top of my head):
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:40 am

A thing I've never liked in Fantasy is the pervasive view that some races are "good" or "evil".

It's even worse in D&D related works, where "good" and "evil" are such universal, absolute truth that just reading someone's aura give you the information.
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Post by Stringtheory Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:49 am

Harmony Ltd. wrote:A thing I've never liked in Fantasy is the pervasive view that some races are "good" or "evil".

It's even worse in D&D related works, where "good" and "evil" are such universal, absolute truth that just reading someone's aura give you the information.
Yeah, it irks me too, when I get around to running my own serious D&D campaign I'm going with the view of alignments are a one word summery of a creature's nature, reality is more complex that and a cleric casting 'detect evil' gets the result based on their god's definition of 'evil'.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:56 am

@String
Sounds like it could be clever. I'd make sure you subvert the "war of good vs. evil" theme by the book's show's end - that's what makes it something more than just standard fantasy in a new context. And not just in a "good guys are morally suspect, bad guys have good aspects" way - that's overdone as hell. Basically, you're running a parody, but it has to be more than just invoking the fantasy "tropes" and poking fun if you want to make it memorable. Look at Cabin in the Woods: it's a loving parody that plays itself out fairly straight until the third act, where it asks questions about the long-term viability of the world it proposes AND whether or not we actually want the "heroes" to come out on top (and, moreover, it doesn't answer them).

I dunno, I'm kinda rambling a bit, probably. Just make sure you have good characters that play with the themes in interesting ways, and you should be k.

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Post by Stringtheory Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:30 am

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@String
Sounds like it could be clever. I'd make sure you subvert the "war of good vs. evil" theme by the book's show's end - that's what makes it something more than just standard fantasy in a new context. And not just in a "good guys are morally suspect, bad guys have good aspects" way - that's overdone as hell. Basically, you're running a parody, but it has to be more than just invoking the fantasy "tropes" and poking fun if you want to make it memorable. Look at Cabin in the Woods: it's a loving parody that plays itself out fairly straight until the third act, where it asks questions about the long-term viability of the world it proposes AND whether or not we actually want the "heroes" to come out on top (and, moreover, it doesn't answer them).

I dunno, I'm kinda rambling a bit, probably. Just make sure you have good characters that play with the themes in interesting ways, and you should be k.
Don't worry, any kind of 'good vs. evil' theme will probably go out the window pretty quickly in favor of 'why the hell would we want to start a war with them anyway over a 900 year old grudge? They're our biggest trading partner, if we went to war, not just our economy would crash, but probably the entire world's and I want to stay elected next term!' I'd probably make the over arching theme of the series 'everyone's just trying to navigate an increasingly complex world'. And I just realized how easy it would be to make jabs at the real world from within this series...
It's more of an idea that I'd pitch to some brilliant anime/movie/book creator if I had actual connections, since I know I'd never be able to do the concept justice. If I was to sit down and write/script/whatever right now, I'd probably go for some form of 'there is no honor in killing despite what knights say'. (probably because I just finished watching Fate/Zero recently). Mostly I have it spinning around in my head because I really like the idea of a 'modern' fantasy world, not to mention I also find magi-tech to be an awesome concept that isn't explored enough. For example, combat spells would be regulated like guns in our world and the typical job for a magic user is essentially being a factory worker making stuff that runs on magic. This would probably lead to the class split that magic users would probably be mostly middle class, while non-magical people are mainly either old-guard upper class or poor because any job outside of menial work usually requires some degree of magical aptitude. Not to mention because of genetics or something more and more of the population is magic sensitive over the centuries.
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Post by Tytan Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:49 am

Now, if you want a great subversion of the Good v Evil dichotomy I recommend you read Mogworld by Yahtzee Croshaw. I won't spoil it for you but it turns a lot of well worn tropes on their head.

If you don't feel like reading it Yahtzee did the reading for the audiobook as well.


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Post by Harmony Ltd. Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:03 am

Pretty rad KLK cosplay:

http://ubercharge.co.vu/post/100795271846/wil-tsun-kiryuin-satsuki-cn-alienorihara
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Post by Tytan Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:04 am

Harmony Ltd. wrote:Pretty rad KLK cosplay:

http://ubercharge.co.vu/post/100795271846/wil-tsun-kiryuin-satsuki-cn-alienorihara
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Post by Katarn Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:05 am

That's very very nice cosplay.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:10 am

Stringtheory wrote:reality is more complex

Stringtheory wrote:reality

I was under the impression that D&D was fantasy.

Kidding aside, I read your posts but I thought the point of these games was to give the player an alien world to explore not to be a reminder of the one they live in. That type of campaign would to me, I'd think, make the world more mundane then exciting.

Edit: Eh, sorry about that. Didn't read your first post explaining the setting. Just gonna strike it out and hope this mistake teaches me to look closer or at the very least pay more attention. Sorry again.

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Post by Frost Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:34 am

In this modern fantasy world, it'd be quite amusing to see just how integrated all the "good" and "evil" races are, as well as the "monsters"--that vampire that showed up at your workplace? He's just on the night shift. That werewolf shows up at your campsite? Park ranger, letting you know that there's severe weather coming in.

It'd be interesting to see how people/creatures don't necessarily act evil when they aren't treated as evil from birth.
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Post by Frost Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:41 am

All my pre-Army job interviews:
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Post by Vinylshadow Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:51 am

Ah, nothing like the blunt honest truth to make people angry at you
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Post by Valikdu Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:06 am

Your avatar looks like Tidus. That alone is enough to want to RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS.
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Post by Vinylshadow Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:08 pm

It is odd how Roxas looks like Tidus

Tidus:

But then again, don't most blonde-haired, blue-eyed protagonists look the same?

Or could be because the games were made by the same company...I think
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Post by Frost Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:20 pm

I've still got no idea if those are supposed to be dudes or chicks. 

Man, Japan lost its shit. What happened to the days of bloodthirsty, suicidal militarism and fanatical imperialism? Nowadays it's all about spike-haired boy-women and "cute" animals. 

I miss the days of seppuku and feudal oppression.
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Post by Vinylshadow Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:29 pm

Ruroni Kenshin has spiky-haired boy-chicks and feudal oppression though
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Post by Scienza Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:46 pm

Mister Frost wrote:I've still got no idea if those are supposed to be dudes or chicks. 

Man, Japan lost its shit. What happened to the days of bloodthirsty, suicidal militarism and fanatical imperialism? Nowadays it's all about spike-haired boy-women and "cute" animals. 

I miss the days of seppuku and feudal oppression.
Apparently, my great-granddad was a collaborator during the Japanese occupation of Korea.
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Post by Frost Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:54 pm

My Grandpa (of Polish descent) was fighting for 'Murica on Utah beach. 

I carry on that legacy by sitting here in someone else's broken track while my Brigade pretends to train and test dumbass radios. Truly, the way of the warrior never changes
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Post by Vinylshadow Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:21 pm

Keeping the dream alive - still have to be asleep to believe it though
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Post by Tytan Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:45 pm

My Grandpa was stationed in Hawaii, I'm pretty sure sometime around the korean war. He punched a lieutenant in the face that woke him up a little to suddenly.
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Post by Vinylshadow Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:53 pm

Well, at least he remembered his training

Always throw the first and last punch
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Post by Frost Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:20 pm

That has never been in any hand-to-hand combat training ever.
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