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Post by Ironmonger Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:51 pm

stringtheory wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:Warhammer is great, it just somewhat takes it in the ass because of Games Workshop. Those guys seem to be notorious for screwing around with fluff in ways that make no sense.

It's good, but has its flaws for one reason or another. I use it as inspiration for my work.
In 40k Games Workshop's official policy towards fluff is "Everything is canon, and nothing is canon" (which is genius once you think about it), remember the Imperium is full of biased viewpoints, propaganda, and religious zealotry, and since almost all of the in-universe stories and archives are from their viewpoint...
Wow...That really is genius. It gives fans a ton of wiggle room.

IRONMONGER APPROVED.

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Post by Stringtheory Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:58 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
stringtheory wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:Warhammer is great, it just somewhat takes it in the ass because of Games Workshop. Those guys seem to be notorious for screwing around with fluff in ways that make no sense.

It's good, but has its flaws for one reason or another. I use it as inspiration for my work.
In 40k Games Workshop's official policy towards fluff is "Everything is canon, and nothing is canon" (which is genius once you think about it), remember the Imperium is full of biased viewpoints, propaganda, and religious zealotry, and since almost all of the in-universe stories and archives are from their viewpoint...
Wow...That really is genius. It gives fans a ton of wiggle room.

IRONMONGER APPROVED.
Not to mention all the official writers, which is both a good and bad thing
Not to mention it also allows HIM to write bullshit fluff...
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:00 pm

stringtheory wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
stringtheory wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:Warhammer is great, it just somewhat takes it in the ass because of Games Workshop. Those guys seem to be notorious for screwing around with fluff in ways that make no sense.

It's good, but has its flaws for one reason or another. I use it as inspiration for my work.
In 40k Games Workshop's official policy towards fluff is "Everything is canon, and nothing is canon" (which is genius once you think about it), remember the Imperium is full of biased viewpoints, propaganda, and religious zealotry, and since almost all of the in-universe stories and archives are from their viewpoint...
Wow...That really is genius. It gives fans a ton of wiggle room.

IRONMONGER APPROVED.
Not to mention all the official writers, which is both a good and bad thing
Not to mention it also allows HIM to write bullshit fluff...

Thankfully though, it does let us ignore HIS fluff. No matter how infuriating it is.

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Post by Stringtheory Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:05 pm

Guarddogjr wrote:
stringtheory wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
stringtheory wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:Warhammer is great, it just somewhat takes it in the ass because of Games Workshop. Those guys seem to be notorious for screwing around with fluff in ways that make no sense.

It's good, but has its flaws for one reason or another. I use it as inspiration for my work.
In 40k Games Workshop's official policy towards fluff is "Everything is canon, and nothing is canon" (which is genius once you think about it), remember the Imperium is full of biased viewpoints, propaganda, and religious zealotry, and since almost all of the in-universe stories and archives are from their viewpoint...
Wow...That really is genius. It gives fans a ton of wiggle room.

IRONMONGER APPROVED.
Not to mention all the official writers, which is both a good and bad thing
Not to mention it also allows HIM to write bullshit fluff...

Thankfully though, it does let us ignore HIS fluff. No matter how infuriating it is.
Not really considering it's Codexes, which ties into the crunch somewhat.

1d4chan's artical on GW and canon:
Spoiler:
So the base stuff stays the same while the details can vary, and I'm pretty sure Codexes modify the base stuff
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:44 pm

fine i get a character with a sonic screwdriver ...
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:52 pm

Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:fine i get a character with a sonic screwdriver ...
perfectly legit, though the Mechanicum would hunt you down for possessing such a relic from the Dark age of Technology (despite being more advanced) to take what is rightfully 'theirs'. Unless it's xeno tech, if so, HERESY!
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:25 pm

stringtheory wrote:
Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:fine i get a character with a sonic screwdriver ...
perfectly legit, though the Mechanicum would hunt you down for possessing such a relic from the Dark age of Technology (despite being more advanced) to take what is rightfully 'theirs'. Unless it's xeno tech, if so, HERESY!

hard for them to do that one of the 500+ settings for biologicals can sonic their brains to goo... or then make their tech fall to pieces... or lock their armor into place... the right frequency can make eardrums rupture or even trigger an aneurism. Not to mention how effective it is with mechanical crap and as a scanner... I mean what good is a ship that can fly through a planet when its reactor core is shut down...big ships tho... but derelict... mine will have a wood setting and a red setting and dampers...

contemplate this, it can scan and lock on to the Orks psionic WAAAAG frequency and then jam it.


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Post by Frost Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:33 pm

They also have quite limited range. You never see him firing the screwdriver at ships in orbit, and in 40K every other battlegroup can scour planets clean of life
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:48 pm

Mister Frost wrote:They also have quite limited range. You never see him firing the screwdriver at ships in orbit, and in 40K every other battlegroup can scour planets clean of life

that is true, but the planet would first have to have a significant need for sterilization and such a relic like the sonic would have dire consequences in terms of political ramifications were it to be destroyed. so depending on prior knowledge it would determine should the planet need to be scoured or not. although i ddo recall in silence of the library the 10th's sonic able to get some kind of reading off the moon, only there was something jamming the sonic from getting a clean signal witch river said "use the dampers" so, it may have short range effect but apparently the more passive effects can be used to reach lunar orbit...

apparently the sonic is advanced gallifreyan tech so it would be Xeno tech, however, since humans are timelord like who is to say they aren't just pursuing the time lords?
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:06 pm

swicked wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:They also have quite limited range. You never see him firing the screwdriver at ships in orbit, and in 40K every other battlegroup can scour planets clean of life
Yeah, but they can piggyback any transmission. I HAVE seen him open up a communication channel with a ship, turn on his screwdriver, and do stuff from incredible distances away THAT way.

this is why you don't diss the sonic.
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Post by Stringtheory Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:35 pm

Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:They also have quite limited range. You never see him firing the screwdriver at ships in orbit, and in 40K every other battlegroup can scour planets clean of life

that is true, but the planet would first have to have a significant need for sterilization and such a relic like the sonic would have dire consequences in terms of political ramifications were it to be destroyed. so depending on prior knowledge it would determine should the planet need to be scoured or not.
Single chaos artifact on a planet? EXTERMINATUS! Trollestia

But really, Exterminatus is a weapon of last resort/extreme measure, like when daemons are about to take over a planet, same with Tyranids, or when a situation needs to be handled quickly and regular measures won't work, like when thirteen chaos titans were discovered on one planet, and there was evidence of agents of chaos nearby

Wait, since when was the Sonic screwdriver a political concern? Besides, a Inquisitor (single agents with near limitless power within the Imperium dedicated to rooting out chaos and xeno threats) are the only ones who could call in an Exterminatus and they wouldn't care what the mechanicus would have to say if it posed enough of a threat to the Imperium.
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:44 pm

stringtheory wrote:
Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:They also have quite limited range. You never see him firing the screwdriver at ships in orbit, and in 40K every other battlegroup can scour planets clean of life

that is true, but the planet would first have to have a significant need for sterilization and such a relic like the sonic would have dire consequences in terms of political ramifications were it to be destroyed. so depending on prior knowledge it would determine should the planet need to be scoured or not.
Single chaos artifact on a planet? EXTERMINATUS! Trollestia

But really, Exterminatus is a weapon of last resort/extreme measure, like when daemons are about to take over a planet, same with Tyranids, or when a situation needs to be handled quickly and regular measures won't work, like when thirteen chaos titans were discovered on one planet, and there was evidence of agents of chaos nearby

Wait, since when was the Sonic screwdriver a political concern? Besides, a Inquisitor (single agents with near limitless power within the Imperium dedicated to rooting out chaos and xeno threats) are the only ones who could call in an Exterminatus and they wouldn't care what the mechanicus would have to say if it posed enough of a threat to the Imperium.

Let alone that there have been various sonic technologies developed leading up to humanity in the stars, not like one would know if it were human tech or not, i mean a glance at the doctor or an image of the doctor and you'd think, human, must be human device...
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Post by Stringtheory Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:33 am

Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:Let alone that there have been various sonic technologies developed leading up to humanity in the stars, not like one would know if it were human tech or not, i mean a glance at the doctor or an image of the doctor and you'd think, human, must be human device...
True, but if it isn't an STC then the Mechanicus would just study it, then either archive or destroy it, it's not like they'd let something so strange go unstudied, and if they find it doesn't line up with any present STC or of obvious Imperial origin, then it's tech-heresy. Also you say that they would immediately assume he's human, I'm pretty sure a Mechanicus Adept has some kind of way of telling if a person has multiple hearts from a couple feet away. If it wasn't a Adept then they would have him recite some prayer, and if he got a single word wrong it would give them an excuse to investigate further, especially if they're already suspicious of his species, not to mention if they had any suspicions they would simply arrest him or execute him.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:17 am

The morning after going to see a concert of Rammstein.

Lots of fire, explosions and screaming.

That was a good night.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:56 pm

While going to work just after eating lunch, I saw an old man looking to be in his mid-sixties, collapsed on a bench next to the supermarket's parking lot, unmoving.

Worried that he might be slightly deceased, I went up to him, and asked if he was okay.

The guy shot up, looking straight at me, drool dripping from his mouth.

"S'okay ! Er'thing is good ! There's no problem !"

That's when I saw that there was an open brick of cheap red wine right next to him on the bench.

And he kept repeating that "there's no problem, there's no problem"

Seeing he was alive and I'm not a model citizen, I acknowledged him, told him to have a good day, and went my way.

"there's no problem"

I am not quite convinced...
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 pm

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Post by CamoBadger Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:The morning after going to see a concert of Rammstein.

Lots of fire, explosions and screaming.

That was a good night.
I'm jelly.
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Post by Valikdu Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:58 pm

There was this particular Rammstein concert that I went to.

Suddenly, it turned out that they brought Deathstars as the warmup band.

Two favorite bands in one concert. [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread. - Page 5 2937254162
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:00 pm

CamoBadger wrote:
Harmony Ltd. wrote:The morning after going to see a concert of Rammstein.

Lots of fire, explosions and screaming.

That was a good night.
I'm jelly.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:01 pm

Music time :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sd8UMUaIk

lyrics:


Spoiler:
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:07 pm

Anyway, that was the concert's ovetrure :

Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5Q9wCFEzg

"Feuer Frei" :

Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqZZTaQS9Ms

"Du Hast" :

Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR54vLpbQnY

Now that's what I call a "party cannon" :

Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5B-VSRcUU
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Post by Kippershy Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:57 pm

...So, I just learned how retarded I've been in thinking getting to Mun is hard.
I just did it in a single burn, first try and without mechjeb.
I still used Protractor, but in actuality, I didn't even need that. It was nice to have a rough guide on how much time I should base my burn off, but my second guess for when to burn worked perfectly.

Sent me straight on a collision course with Mun and of course, that's EXACTLY what I wanted because I was actually making a Mun lander base! So yeah, all in all I actually had a hell of a lot of fuel from the trip left around, had to ditch my second stage thrusters while they still had fuel to both find out height (night side of moon) and because landing with them would've killed me.

So yeah... damn that's easy.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:00 pm

Simply wait for Mun to be just above the horizon while in low-orbit to start your burn, and stop it when your ship's orbit's perihelion reaches Mun's orbit.

Don't forget to align orbital planes before doing your burn, though. The results could be... sub-optimal. Applebloom
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Post by Kippershy Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:30 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:Simply wait for Mun to be just above the horizon while in low-orbit to start your burn, and stop it when your ship's orbit's perihelion reaches Mun's orbit.

Don't forget to align orbital planes before doing your burn, though. The results could be... sub-optimal. [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread. - Page 5 3670107347
Bitch please, I didn't even bother aligning my ascending/descending nodes.
I relied entirely upon prograde thrust and some normalisation to get me on my collision course and that worked perfectly.
Seriously, the only issue I had the whole time was that I tried to realign my ship once I landed and almost flipped over... thrice.

but in the end I got the solar panels to face the sun nicely so nothing to complain about.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:35 pm

Kippershy wrote:Bitch please, I didn't even bother aligning my ascending/descending nodes.
I relied entirely upon prograde thrust and some normalisation to get me on my collision course and that worked perfectly.
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Post by Valikdu Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:59 pm

Testing new mod data.
My ponies have fixed ethic tags (had these since the beginning). That allows them to butcher the dead invaders, eat their flesh and make pretty totems out of their skulls.
But... these tags somehow still don't allow them to do the same things with the sapient tame animals. Like the fluffies.
Have to remove the sapience tag from the fluffies.
Crap.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:06 pm

You rustled ?

Can't you, I dunno, tag the fluffies as "semi-sapient" or something ?

hint : I have never played Dwarf Fortress
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Post by Valikdu Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:07 pm

The game won't let me satisfy my insane fantasies of violence! My jimmies are rustled!

[edit] There's only two tags that give sapience: [INTELLIGENT] and [SLOW_LEARNER]. The second one (which I used) is similar to the first in every way, except that the creature's experience gain is halved.


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