Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[Stringtheory]

The following may interest some people here :

www.military-today.com/apc/black_knight.htm

TL;DR : IRL, in final phases of the prototype stage, a partially autonomous Tank Drone.

still waiting for my jetpack...

[Harmony Ltd.]

Here you go :

http://martinjetpack.com/

[Stringtheory]

Here you go :

http://martinjetpack.com/

correction, still waiting for my backpack sized jetpack...

[Harmony Ltd.]

RE : "Red Eye Analysis"

Well, just to say how shitty my previous post was, I managed to get mixed-up between Camo and Rum


Anyway...


First, Camo. You say that feeding 10K slaves would cost a fuck lot. That's true. That's why you don't pay for food. You use the slaves to grow the food.

In parallel, if they're well fed, and in good physical condition, they're also in better condition to revolt. That is also true. But that's why from the start you have to present them with the Carrot that you're going to not only free them, but give them stuff after one year of service (Full Citizenship and the associated rights).

The goal, at medium-term, is to offer conditions of employment such that you can eliminate the need for slavery altogether as people will want to join you and work for / with you of their own will. Slavery is just a stop-gap measure. [note : As for the logistic of the thing, I want to say "It's the economy, stupid" : who say you have to use caps for internal trade ? And who say you have to play by free-market rules in your internal economy ? If you control the food supply from top to bottom, and are self-sustaining from that point of view, you already eliminated most of the need for internal trade - and you could just provide your workers with "Credits" for trade inside the Empire/Republic/Whatever]



Regarding the establishment of a new Nation upon the ashes of the Old World, I'll draw a parallel : in Fallout, how was the NCR built ? You had a little agricultural community, Shady Sands, that through the vision and charism of its leaders Aradesh and Tandi, managed to rally years after years more and more communities into a bigger whole, which by working together, united under a common Law, managed to build something greater that they could individually achieve.

And they achieved that without slaves. Or, more accurately, they achieved that -because- they didn't have slaves. That's my uneducated opinion, at least.



For me, the Original Sin of Red Eye, was his lack of faith in the capacity of something good to be achieved without him at the helm. This skewed all his plans from the get go to be achieved under a very limited timespan, forcing the use of methods that can be, at best, described as inhumane (inequine ?).

Losing faith in the abilities of ponies to do good - when all of pre-war Equestrian History was a shining example of the contrary, he locked himself into a worldview that was destructive to his own long-term vision.

That would be my main criticism of him as a Leader - everything else is just a consequence of it.



I do not doubt that Red Eye found a way to incorporate the high rate of casualties brought by his activities into his plan, and knowing how ruthless the character is in his pursuit of his Vision, I wouldn't be surprised he went with it. And Fuzzy's points ring true.



This won't stop me from saying, though, that Red Eye was blinded by his personal experience to the possibilities of doing things a better way.

He and his companions may have done all the calculations, thought all the contingency plans ; their basic assumption were, in my opinion, flawed.

The same way Littlepip had been formatted by her life in Stable 2 to think that only a Princess could rule over the land, Red Eye had been convinced that to hold power could only lead someone to become a Monster.

This is Red Eye's tragedy : hurt and betrayed, unable to ever trust again, and convinced to be one at the bottom of his heart consciously condemning himself to be a Monster in his acts.

He had rationalized his choices. But they remain born of emotions.



He is, indeed, Corrupted Generosity.

[Ironmonger]

Didn't help much that Red Eye was using Hindenburgs with his snipers. Look at me, ma, I'm a phoenix!

[Caoimhe]

If I win the Powerball tonight, Somber's gettin' a chunk of change from me fo sho.

[IncoherentOrange]

Good luck, Cao. The odds are against you.

Seriously, though, good luck.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Didn't help much that Red Eye was using Hindenburgs with his snipers. Look at me, ma, I'm a phoenix!

Please forgive my being tired after a whole day of programming and a few days of not enough sleeping, but could you elaborate on that line of thought or provide some supplemental context, please ?

[222222]

The pinkie pie balloons had snipers on them, iron was saying they would go up in flames in a fight because of the flammable gas inside. In his own way, Iron was relating to Red Eye being a bad leader.

[Harmony Ltd.]

*neck crack*

Thanks for the translation.

Now to go to bed...

[RoboRed]

Postedbecauseawesome:

Spoiler:

[Ironmonger]

When I get srsface, my posts tend to ooze with smartassery. :P I just normally don't have the time to make the long thoughtful posts that some of you do.

@Robo
Knife to meat ya. Put the gun down I know that was horrible. Still one of my favorites!

[O. Hinds]

more Red Eye stuff

I hadn't thought of it quite that way before; thank you.

Didn't help much that Red Eye was using Hindenburgs with his snipers. Look at me, ma, I'm a phoenix!

Didn't help much that Red Eye was using Hindenburgs with his snipers. Look at me, ma, I'm a phoenix!

Please forgive my being tired after a whole day of programming and a few days of not enough sleeping, but could you elaborate on that line of thought or provide some supplemental context, please ?

The pinkie pie balloons had snipers on them, iron was saying they would go up in flames in a fight because of the flammable gas inside. In his own way, Iron was relating to Red Eye being a bad leader.

I don't blame him for that; there are good reasons for using a lifting gas that happens to be flammable, particularly if the PPBs already had hydrogen talismans. Though it looks like Equestria in the past might have had access to superior lifting gases of which our physics knows not, hydrogen (or illuminating gas or the like, if you have to) is quite plentiful and relatively cheap even without talismans, which I expect are relatively easy to manufacture. What's more, hydrogen can be used safely for lift; the problem is not so much that it's inherently dangerous as that there are more safety systems that need to not fail (unless you don't bother to put the safety systems in in the first place, of course).

[Ironmonger]

See, I wouldn't have said anything unless I was absolutely sure of my knowledge. I wasn't aware of that bit.

[Guest]

Anyone read the MLP comic #1? I liked it pretty well; very much a "set up stuff" plot, and pretty simple, but very funny! Legitimately made me laugh aloud, and without anyone in the room, either (people are generally more inclined to laugh when there are other people around, myself included). At four bucks, I think it was worth it. Nothing new or all that adventurous done yet, but it entertained me and had some great "ponies making faces" moments. I love those.

Spoiler:

[Ironmonger]

[Guest]

Spoiler:

Hee, took me a second to notice that his mouth grill was inverted! Now he's the happiest of space marines!

[O. Hinds]

PRECOOLER TESTS SUCCESSFUL!

Press Release: Wednesday 28 November 2012:
Reaction Engines Ltd. can announce today the biggest breakthrough in aerospace propulsion technology since the invention of the jet engine. Critical tests have been successfully completed on the key technology for SABRE, an engine which will enable aircraft to reach the opposite side of the world in under 4 hours, or to fly directly into orbit and return in a single stage, taking off and landing on a runway.
SABRE, an air-breathing rocket engine, utilises both jet turbine and rocket technology. Its innovative pre-cooler technology is designed to cool the incoming airstream from over 1,000ËšC to minus 150ËšC in less than 1/100th of a second (six times faster than the blink of an eye) without blocking with frost. The recent tests have proven the cooling technology to be frost-free at the crucial low temperature of -150ËšC.
The European Space Agency (ESA) has evaluated the SABRE engine's pre-cooler heat exchanger on behalf of the UK Space Agency, and has given official validation to the test results:
"The pre-cooler test objectives have all been successfully met and ESA are satisfied that the tests demonstrate the technology required for the SABRE engine development."
Minister for Universities and Science, David Willetts said: "This is a remarkable achievement for a remarkable company. Building on years of unique engineering know-how, Reaction Engines has shown the world that Britain remains at the forefront of technological innovation and can get ahead in the global race. This technology could revolutionise the future of air and space travel."
Well over 100 test runs, undertaken at Reaction Engines Ltd's facility in Oxfordshire, integrated the ground-breaking flight-weight cooling technology and frost control system with a jet engine and a novel helium cooling loop, demonstrating the new technologies in the SABRE engine that drive its highly innovative and efficient thermodynamic cycle. This success adds to a series of other SABRE technology demonstrations undertaken by the company including contra-rotating turbines, combustion chambers, rocket nozzles, and air intakes and marks a major advance towards the creation of vehicles like SKYLON – a new type of reusable space vehicle that will be powered by SABRE engines, designed primarily to transport satellites and cargo into space. Wednesday 28 November 2012 Alan Bond, who founded Reaction Engines to re-build the UK's rocket propulsion industry and has led the research from the start, said:
"These successful tests represent a fundamental breakthrough in propulsion technology. Reaction Engines' lightweight heat exchangers are going to force a radical re-think of the design of the underlying thermodynamic cycles of aerospace engines. These new cycles will open up completely different operational characteristics such as high Mach cruise and low cost, re-usable space access, as the European Space Agency's validation of Reaction Engines' SABRE engine has confirmed. The REL team has been trying to solve this problem for over 30 years and we've finally done it. Innovation doesn't happen overnight. Independent experts have confirmed that the full engine can now be demonstrated. The SABRE engine has the potential to revolutionise our lives in the 21st century in the way the jet engine did in the 20th Century. This is the proudest moment of my life."
Dr Mark Ford, ESA's Head of Propulsion Engineering, said:
"One of the major obstacles to developing air-breathing engines for launch vehicles is the development of lightweight high-performance heat exchangers. With this now successfully demonstrated by Reaction Engines Ltd, there are currently no technical reasons why the SABRE engine programme cannot move forward into the next stage of development."

[Ironmonger]

Spoiler:

Hee, took me a second to notice that his mouth grill was inverted! Now he's the happiest of space marines!

You like the Codex Astartes don't you Squidward?

[Ketchup]

Now that is awesome.
Now how expensive are they?

[O. Hinds]

Now that is awesome.
Now how expensive are they?

...Now that I do not know. The answer apparently isn't "too", though (at least not yet).

[Ironmonger]

The British always were a clever bunch.

America:"You're in my spot, Britain."

[Caoimhe]

Anyone read the MLP comic #1? I liked it pretty well; very much a "set up stuff" plot, and pretty simple, but very funny! Legitimately made me laugh aloud, and without anyone in the room, either (people are generally more inclined to laugh when there are other people around, myself included). At four bucks, I think it was worth it. Nothing new or all that adventurous done yet, but it entertained me and had some great "ponies making faces" moments. I love those.

Spoiler:

I thought it was pretty badass and slightly more "mature." The art is freaking fantastic. Kinda wish they did more establishing instead of jumping right into a story arc, though.

[RoboRed]

The British always were a clever bunch.

America:"You're in my spot, Britain."

Britain: I WILL FUCKING PUNCH YOU IN THE SOUL.

[Ironmonger]

Britain: I WILL FUCKING PUNCH YOU IN THE SOUL.

Britain:"Watch, it's the last one that says it-"
Germany:"You're in my spot sir-"
Britain:"I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!"

[Admiral Stoic Rum]

Then the Chinese or Japanese invent a hyperdrive or Einstein Rosenberg matter bridge or fucking build a power source capable of powering a vehicle that can expand and contract space to allow faster than light travel

[Stringtheory]

and on that note, does anyone here play/heard of EVE online?

[Ironmonger]

I played it several years in the past. Then my time card ran out and I had other things to do.

[Stringtheory]

I played it several years in the past. Then my time card ran out and I had other things to do.

yeah, EVE is a time sink, it's a fun game, though you have to make too many spreadsheets (for calculating profit ratios, and such) for my liking, probably will pick it up again whenever I have tons of time

[Moodyman90]

My referencing Spoony's Let's Play of SWAT 4 sense of tingling... why do I ever have that....

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